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reposting from prev thread
Running Arch on my laptop
1) I'm running i3 and i cant seem to open ANY dropdown menus from the menubar. What seems to be the problem?
2) dmenu and derivatives still won't run ever since that update before. how can i fix this
What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
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I use GTK3 apps without the menubars looking bad. All depends on who wrote the program abd if they are on the GNOME 3 development team (gnome 3's gedit, eog, and so on all look like crap).
>1) I'm running i3 and i cant seem to open ANY dropdown menus from the menubar. What seems to be the problem?
what are you talking about?
>2) dmenu and derivatives still won't run ever since that update before. how can i fix this
you probably need to run it asdmenu_runorcompgen -c | dmenu
whats the status of wayland? when are we gonna get drivers for it? i heard that ubuntu will switch to mir soon, does it mean derivatives will switch to wayland too or are they gonna stay with X?
My bad, windows that have menubars won't let me access them. The problem persists in awesome, too. Gnome doesn't have it though.
dmenu returns when ranX Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
You're getting a couple of different concepts mixed up.
Wayland is done, what we need right now are compositors making use of wayland.
Drivers exist already. Open Radeon/AMDGPU, nouveau, and Intel can all use wayland.
Mir is its own thing it has nothing to do with wayland it's canonical's own brand of X basically. Derivatives of ubuntu will switch to wayland because I really doubt the DEs will bother adding Mir support
I think these images may scare people away from CLI because they look so massive when they're put like that, yet they only barely scratch the surface of what you can do on a command line.
These are good if you already know 80% of it and want to discover little gems of the shell like pushd/popd and job control but if you are complete beginner these would probably be intimidating. If you just use a command line every day for at least a month you would probably know 80% of these commands without ever looking at this image.
>Mir is its own thing it has nothing to do with wayland it's canonical's own brand of X basically. Derivatives of ubuntu will switch to wayland because I really doubt the DEs will bother adding Mir support
Canonical is fucking retarded. It will be upstart all over again.
At least upstart was actually useful at one point though. Mir is just plain redundant, there's actually no purpose in it existing as far as anyone can tell. It was literally announced after wayland was already finalized and there was a device shipping with wayland support
what should i use? yes, no or something else? what will break if i choose yes?
That's like putting your hand in a small cage with a rabid dog.
What does this mean? It happens when I try to start my Win8.1 VM using virt-manager.
it's just numix dark and i used the waveform seekbar and the infobar plugins. that's pretty much it. the design mode is easy to use and picking colors should be easy. most colors should already be set after installing numix dark.
The rebuttal pic to this is just some freetard from /g/ saying: Everything you claim is wrong, even though you provided tons of sources. I don't have to prove shit myself though, because...
Don't waste your time on this garbage OS. There's a reason why it's stuck on 1.5% and 99.999% of people who try it go back to Windows/OS X.
>The rebuttal pic to this is just some freetard from /g/ saying: Everything you claim is wrong, even though you provided tons of sources. I don't have to prove shit myself though, because...
You can't argue.
I will not post the rebuttal pic anymore, someone would have posted it for me.
Sup /g/, tech il/lit/erate retard here looking to install some kind of Linux OS on a Thinkpad laptop I bought because everyone here seems to be shilling it. I followed the flowchart (https://wiki.installgentoo.com/images/1/12/Ospicker.png) from >>52364162 which pointed me to Mint, Zorin, PCLinuxOS, Ubuntu LTS or elementary OS (don't really mind if it looks like Windows or not). How do I narrow it down from here though? Should I just get Mint since that seems to be pretty universally said to be the easiest? I suppose my other high priority, except for ease of use, would be anonymity, so any pointers towards how I might maximise that would be appreciated. Cheers.
So i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and decided to use it full time. I would like to know whats the best DE that offers a different experience then windows? Ive already tried cinnamon KDE xfce etc but i want something that feels new (i already tried gnome 3 but it feels like windows 8 to me ie built for touch screens). also i would like to know some good ricing methods.
It's been stable since rc1, anon. Plus my system is Skylake, and 4.4 was the only option when I built the system.
Using an older kernel version didn't help. God dammit I don't want to lose this VM.
Refurbished T410 from Ebay for £140. Did I do well? Get ripped off?
Pic related is the best thing I've read in a while, not sure about all time favourite though.
Guys, I'm thinking about installing slackware? The latest stable release was 2013, am i going to be installing 2 year old software? i thought slackware was supposed to be secure. How often does software get patched on Slackware.
If you want to go through all your installed packages and delete them yourself be my guest. Like I said it's a waste of fucking time.
What the hell are you even on about. Coreutils is actually useful. Why would you split it up.
>What the hell are you even on about. Coreutils is actually useful. Why would you split it up.
Because sometime people want to list something but don't want to move a file because of security reasons. rm should be split up as well.
Snowden wasn't using tails full time. The point of tails is to have a read-only livecd that doesn't store any sensitive data, only tools needed to exchange it.
If you want a GNU/Tinfoil OS look up for Qubes.
As long as you have a machine powerful enough to handle it with reasonable performance.
reading up on qubes, it sounds like you could actually be a good approach as an OS for non-expert computer users. tom scott kinda explained something like it https://youtu.be/kNm-b1UXGTY?t=3m35s
>it sounds like you could actually be a good approach as an OS for non-expert computer users.
good approach? maybe
Remember that for security reasons qubes does not allow any 3d acceleration in the virtual machine container.
I keep getting this weird error while trying to install Arch saying that after thirty seconds, the USB isn't being recognized. I'm using all of the default settings in Rufus to make this USB:
>MBR partition scheme for BIOS or UEFI
>FAT32 file system
>4096 bytes for cluster size
I'm trying to install this on a shitty Acer Aspire One I found in my attic. Anybody have an idea of what could be the issue?
Well let's just say I did things years ago I'm not exactly proud of. And I definitely don't want it to resurface.
I think I'll be able to get one without ending up on a list. Right now I'm just on Tor at work reading up how to get off the grid.
I definitely can get behind that. And I'm okay with things being readonly. Don't need to store any information on it anyway. I have a home server that I'm planning to wipe and use the highest levels of encryption I can get. I'll probably do the Chromebook where a folder is actually a shared folder on my server.
>If I can use something else I'm all ears.
If it's neither powerful not new debian stable running lxde should do just fine.
Just make sure to download the iso with non free repositories enabled. Once you get it done you have like 3 years from ever having to maintain it. Isn't that a nice thing?
I can't decide what DE to use. Can I simply typepacman -R lxdeto remove the whole LXDE and install another one?
CPU load with firefox on: between 5 and 10%
RAM usage: 26%
The temps are completely fine, it's just the fans going nuts.sensors
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +48.0°C (crit = +98.0°C)
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1: 4596 RPM
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0: +41.0°C (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +41.0°C (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +35.0°C (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
4600 RPM is way too much, it sounds like a jet and this is with automatic mode on thinkpad-acpi.
Nothing changed from yesterday when it worked just fine.
what if I deleted every single pagacke in the group? Would there be any traces left in my system?
Having 5 DEs on my PC isn't really what I was going for. I just want to try some of them for a bit and then decide which one I'm staying with.
commands: level <level> (<level> is 0-7, auto, disengaged, full-speed)
commands: enable, disable
commands: watchdog <timeout> (<timeout> is 0 (off), 1-120 (seconds))
Is thinkfan the culprit?
saw it after I sent my other reply already. Trying it out now.
How is yours set?
By the way
>In automatic mode, the embedded controller sets the fan speed automatically according to system temperatures and some unknown algorithm.
And something's clearly wrong here because temps are NOT high enough to warrant this speed.
The BIOS algorithm is shit, hence why I'm using thinkfan. Here's my config:
Config should be placed in /etc/thinkfan.conf. You should enable the service with systemctl enable thinkfan, so it starts on boot.
The Nouveau driver didn't help my problem at all, usage still spikes when I drag/resize windows. One thing that (obviously) works is "don't show window contents while dragging" checked, but I'd kinda like a bit of middle ground between no contents shown and all contents shown if that's possible.
Okay that's weird.
Now the fans are back at normal behaviour so thank you for that BUTthinkfan.service loaded failed failed
I did enable the servicesudo systemctl enable thinkfanso you don't call me crazy.
>>52366752● thinkfan.service - simple and lightweight fan control program
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/thinkfan.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since lun. 2016-01-11 18:48:06 CET; 8min ago
Process: 386 ExecStart=/usr/bin/thinkfan (code=exited, status=4)
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad systemd: Starting simple and lightweight fan control program...
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad thinkfan: thinkfan 0.9.1 starting...
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad thinkfan: /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal: No such file or directory
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad systemd: thinkfan.service: Control process exited, code=exited status=4
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad systemd: Failed to start simple and lightweight fan control program.
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad systemd: thinkfan.service: Unit entered failed state.
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad systemd: thinkfan.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
So I guess the lack of proc/acpi/ibm/therma/ is bad. What should be in that file?
Hi friends, here's my problem.
My PC is running on Linux only, no Windows dual booting.
But I really wanted to create a Windows partition so I could dual boot to play Dragon's Dogma. What's the easiest way to do this? Formatting?
I'm not your friend + If you ask this that means you don't use a fs that allow resizing partitions on a mounted drive so you'll have to boot from a live media (like Gparted one) to achieve your will.
Can I run my host headless and passthrough my single gpu to a kvm guest?
After i purchase an i7-5820k and asus x99-a /usb 3.1 motherboard, I'll be low on funds but i have a gtx 750ti specifically purchased earlier for passthrough.
My other gpu is probably going to be a gtx 980ti or a refurbished r9 fury X.
there's only one correct answer
I'm having trouble with DPI. I'm running archlinux with i3 as my WM. Drivers wise I've got xf86-video-intel installed, and that's pretty much it. Google hasn't really helped me out. My laptop is 3200x1800 at 276 DPI so 96 is quite straining on the eyes. How fix?
I did a minimal install of Debian and now have access to the command line. I'm not really sure what to do now, like how to get packages and stuff. The commands I'm trying to use don't really do anything. I thought it was me not being root but I already established myself as root.
Basically they need sudo access.apt-get install sudo && visudo
Add your user to the sudo group, log all the way out, and log back in. If you're using a DE it will integrate with sudo and prompt you for your own password rather than root's.
I'm trying to install virtualbox on a 64 bit windows operating system. It only lets me create 32 bit systems. Shouldn't I be able to make a 64 bit Ubuntu machine if my operating system is 64 bit? What am I doing wrong?
guided encrypted one. chose the one with separate partitions for /, /boot, /home, etc.
what are you doing brev? jumping into the deepend when you don't know how to swim?
i always use aptitude so i wouldn't know but i think apt install is enough.
pretty sure unless you specify not to use suggested packages goodies will be installed aswell.
I don't know why, but the CPU setup was all sorts of fucked up for the VM. I didn't change it, and it had been working for about a month straight without a problem. I got it sorted out and now it boots fine.
Does anyone have some information on getting a VM to see the local (host) network? I want to be able to backup my Win8.1 VM to my fileserver.
that's kind've exactly what I'm doing.
I'm getting errors saying I can't locate certain packages. Am I not connected to the internet or something? I set it up in the installer.
Guess I'll try this
Already have done that. I want to access them without any password at all however, essentially to grant the user permanent root privileges for these two tasks.
>I want to access them without any password at all however
That's a bad idea and you should feel bad. It would allow any random-ass browser exploit to install arbitrary packages on your system.
hope you drown then.
yeah friendly thread whatever, don't just expect us to just lead you to a workable desktop, when you don't even know how to install packages. go back and do full install.
Dude it's my other harddrive, there are no system files in there, just cold data storage. Concerning synaptic, I thought it restricts installing arbitrary packages outside of the repositories that are signed to it, or am I wrong?
I just finished installing Debian with the nonfree firmware for my Intel nic card and for Ethernet. I installed the firmware during setup, is turning on non free and contrib repos necessary?
>Concerning synaptic, I thought it restricts installing arbitrary packages outside of the repositories that are signed to it, or am I wrong?
If you can run Synaptic you can add repositories and keys.
so I did as everyone urged and tried to install Gentoo
but I'm currently stuck as there is some kind of error in making the kernel... I'm not advanced enough to make a manual kernel, just ran the standard emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-sources to have it automatically configure but I'm getting errors.
I am going to try again but has this happened to anyone before?
Is there a way to restrict just adding repos then, and allowing the user to freely install packages from known repos? Not sure about how common browser exploits are for Ganoo Lunex exactly.
let me rephrase that:
now it doesn't throw a segmentation fault anymore for whatever reason, it simply writes pic related and stays there for all eternity
the wall of text on top of startlxde is the newest part of the log that's mentioned in the last message.
I don't get it. Another question which you might hate me even more for. Is there a list of programs which use the "new" gnome headerbars(client-side decorations). I like them and only found lollypop.
That's pretty damn sucky. There has to be some kind of workaround around this though for sure. How exactly does synaptic handle packages, is it just a fancy frontend for apt-get or is there something more to it?
Some gtk3 programs still use the old one. I mean the titlebars. Around a year ago gnome changed titlebars into one big line without file/edit and all that stuff and most people hated it. I like it though.
Plebian here, I know how to compile stuffs from github, but what's the correct way to install such an "external" program? When I use make install, the program is installed, but my package manager wount regonize the package and I can't uninstall it anymore without the original Makefile.
So what's the correct/cleaver way to deal with such packages/programs?
Ok, so I'm trying to install Debian and during the install process it's asking for proprietary firmware: "rtl_nic/rtl8168e-3.fw"
What do? How do I get it on there and where do I get it from?
I'm trying to instal Debian 8.2.0, Jessie on a dualboot with Winblows VII(tm).
easiest would be using>>52367641
or just going through the installation from ethernet, adding contrib and non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor and installing firmware-linux-nonfree.
I'm sorry I REFUSE to bring advertisements to my PC, I might as well open a TV channel and watch infomercial
I don't want my browsing and typing habit surveillance because I have a decent respect for my privacy
I'm trying to move xorg.conf.new to /etc/x11/xorg.conf.new but I keep getting told that there's no such file or directory. I'm using
sudo cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/x11/xorg.conf
How do I get this to work out?
Does Arch break every now and then or is it just a meme? If so, why so many people use it?
I just installed Fedora and set up enlightenment, really loving this DE and distro, but i have this extremely annoying issue where the mouse will jump when i'm on the de.
with firefox or other full screen apps open it's fine, but when the dem is visible the mouse will randomly jump somewhere on the right side of the screen and left click.
It doesn't do this in gnome or XFCE so I know it's not a hardware issue. Any way to fix this?
It really depends. Some people have problems with it. I'm running it on a laptop (lenovo ideapad) and everything is running out of the box and it never actually breaks. I think its an old meme but I could be wrong.
I've never used anything else, but I've been using Postfix for years in a relatively sophisticated configuration without trouble. My only complaint is that the configuration is a bit complicated, but I doubt that the alternatives are much better in that way.
Last night I created a Live ISO of Mint on a usb drive so that I can boot to it on my macbook. I used this installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ as suggested by multiple tutorials that I found online. It gave me the option of creating up to 4GB persistent storage for the system so I used that maximum as I am running on a thumbdrive of 128GB and only plan on using it for my Linux OS. However, I am curious as to whether or not I'm able to expand this persistent storage so that I can fit a few more programs on it and if I am unable to do so, am I still able to use the drive for storage outside the linux environment (in the space that isn't taken up by the OS/Persistent storage)?
>Like do I install each OS on a different hard drive or something?
Each operating system needs at least one hard drive "partition", which is a section of a hard drive that contains its own filesystem. By re-partitioning your drive (reducing the size of your Windows partition to make room for a new one), you can add an operating system to your current drive. You could also have multiple operating systems on multiple drives. All that matters is that you have at least one partition per drive.
If you have multiple operating systems, you will be able to select which one you want to use when you turn your computer on via a menu provided by a suitable bootloader, like GRUB, which is normally what Linux uses on desktop systems.
In Gentoo you have to use "xset" to configure the X power management "features". These settings do not persist between sessions, so you have to apply them every time X starts. You can do this by adding them to ~/.xinitrc. I have to usexset s noblank & xset s off & xset -dpmsin order to prevent screen blanking. Not sure whether or not it's the same for everyone on all systems.
As a side note, you can use "xset dpms force off" to put your monitors into standby, and presumably "xset dpms force on" to turn them on again. If you want your monitors to turn on and off at certain times of something you could use a cron job (you'd have to set the DISPLAY variable). After you use those features you have to do "xset -dpms" again or screen blanking will be re-enabled.
I have never been able to figure out how to disable screen blanking on the terminal. You will probably need to do something kind of hacky, like find a way to spoof keyboard input every few minutes or something. If you're talking about Wayland or something, then it depends on your compositor.
Most systems still used SysV init until less than four years ago. Slackware still uses it, and Debian still supports it. Gentoo's OpenRC is an extension which still has the init and telinit commands.
That's X again. I'm just working from a console.
Weird, didn't have the problem with Ubuntu. There must be a setting somewhere, Google just keeps bringing up X stuff though. Maybe it's buried in systemd or something.
>That's X again. I'm just working from a console.
This is a very handy tip if it works. I (>>52372878) have always been extremely aggravated by automatic screen blanking, and several years ago I asked /g/, Gentoo Forums, Linux Forums, etc, etc how to do this and nobody could tell me. I'd since given up because I don't use the terminal that often (as opposed to a terminal emulator).
I've been running Mint Cinnamon for a while now, and it works great. I just found a very nice setting where pressing CTRL shows where the mouse pointer is.
However now whenever I attempt to switch tabs in the file explorer via CTRL + TAB, nothing happens.
Other applications, such as Firefox behave normally. Is there a workaround so I can have both features?
What's the easiest way to uninstall a DE and replace it with another? I've always just used the default DE in linux distros but I want to customize... Using Debian currently, but want openbox.
Last time I tried this I broke my system like an idiot, anyone give a ELI5 for a non-gentomman?
You dont need to remove the DE, just apt-get openbox and logout. You should now be able to select openbox from you login manager. Play around and test some DEs/WMs and when you know you will never use your DE again, then you can remove it, but beware: a DE includes usually some programs the will be removed too at uninstall.
Is any torrent client safer than another? Or does it not matter? I mean, you're literally connected to someone else's computer, downloading their files. Seems like that would be risky, even if you're just grabbing something innocuous like a distro ISO.
Using transmission right now.
That's been my problem I think. Whenever I install openbox, and then delete GNOME for example, half my system stops working. I had no idea why.
I just didn't want the "wasted" space I thought.
Any recommendations for a distro to run on a PowerBook G3? Grabbed a $2 333 MHz Lombard today, keyboard is cozy as fuck and I want to use it as an X terminal since I already have a Wallstreet 266 for anal gaping.
I'm not too worried about the files, I usually md5sum against the hashes on the website anyway.
I just mean, like how can sharing with hundreds of people at the same time be safe? Is the protocol that secure?
Just reinstall whatever Gnome stuff you need, or an alternative, independently of Gnome. For example, if your file manager is suddenly missing when you install Gnome, it's because the one you were using is part of Gnome. Try Thunar instead.
meeeming hard tonight, trisquel helping a baby gentoo
following this guide, how to install gentoo by a guy in drag
I like it because he actually takes the time to explain many things, but I'm stuck at this part
I have a file called fstab like in the video, but it seems like its no longer an editable text file (the video is back from 2013). So nano doesnt work on fstab and using vi on it doesn't give me much to work with either
was this changed to a conf file somewhere?
asus eee pc 700 and 701. got them both off craigslist for $30! they are tiny and low powered, but take am sd card. i just ran out of space on the 2gb gentoo one, now to lvm with an 8g sdcard for the root. fuuuuuii
this is me
how can i setup root partition on an sd card but keep bios boot and swap partitions on integral ssd? internal storage is /dev/sda and sd card is /dev/sdc....do i just fdisk into each of those and set them up like it seems like? is that even lvm?
If you fstab isn't editable you fucked up, which isn't surprising if you're that much of a fucking retard to install any distro ny watching a youtube video guide. Moron.
>was this changed to a conf file somewhere?
changes from an editable file to a conf file? I'm not sure you're ready for gentoo.
It wasn't a file filled with text like I expected, so I thought I'd ask. But I checked the wiki and everything appears to be as normal https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Fstab
thanks for the reply dick wad.
Wow there's a fucking surprise.
I've not heard anything so funny all day.
I'm not the one installing gentoo by watching a man in drag on youtube and then asking if a file changed to a conf file because you can't open it with nano lol.
I've fucked around with Ubuntu in the past, read the wiki and swapped over to Xubuntu.
First time giving a Linux distro a real shot, as I have a suspicion i am going to need to learn how to use it throughout my career.
Where should I start?
so i just installed ubuntu and im looking for a desktop environment that is different then windows. ive already tried xfce kde cinnamon etc but they are too close to winblows for me. i basically want t try something new.
All you need for a graphical session is a way to manage windows. Openbox doesn't give you a file manager, font configuration, an editor, power management tools etc. That is why you can log in to it but it is not a desktop environment.
I love netbooks. I've got three asus eee PCs and five dell mini 910's.
My eee pcs are actually a bit better though, they practically qualify as "deluxe netbooks" if such a thing exists. a 1015pem, a 1015pn, and a 1025c. The pn actually includes a dGPU (nvidia ION), and can squeak through FO:NV.
I am planning on giving most of these away to cousins/charity once I load them with emulators, already donated one a month ago to a children's christmas program thing.
The pn stays with me though, it's pretty funny to *sort of* play modern games on a 10.1" netbook
Don't run mint; it may be the easiest but there's a bunch of things wrong with it. Granted, that's just stuff I've heard thrown around here with no real backup, but it's enough to convince me not to use it.
Lubuntu is probably a safe bet, or Ubuntu MATE. Don't use vanilla Ubuntu; it's prepackaged with Amazon Spyware.
Alternatively, install any Ubuntu distro but vanilla and install Cinnamon DE to it; that's basically Mint but with the functionality of Ubuntu.
Typing this comment from a Thinkpad x200 running Lubuntu LTS.
I fucking love lubuntu. "minimalist" without being arch/ haxxor/ autist shit, runs lighting fast on pretty much any CPU made in the last 10 years.
Even my mom can use it, not even memeing. No Ubuntu Unity shit where you got to relearn everything computer just to launch a terminal.
Pic related is my desktop, it doesn't come exactly like that out of the box but all you got to do is spend 15 minutes experimenting and right-clicking on shit the taskbar and you can get it "tastefully riced"
If you want "pretty", then yeah try Mint, Elementary, HRT