/flt/ - Friendly Linux Thread

reposting from prev thread

Running Arch on my laptop

1) I'm running i3 and i cant seem to open ANY dropdown menus from the menubar. What seems to be the problem?

2) dmenu and derivatives still won't run ever since that update before. how can i fix this

first for my wife's son

What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=GNU/Linux_ricing

A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript

Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=/flt/

IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux

>>52364160
I use GTK3 apps without the menubars looking bad. All depends on who wrote the program abd if they are on the GNOME 3 development team (gnome 3's gedit, eog, and so on all look like crap).

Are BSD related questions welcome here?

>>52364158
cuck detected

>>52364204
newfag detected

>>52364155
>1) I'm running i3 and i cant seem to open ANY dropdown menus from the menubar. What seems to be the problem?
>i3
>menubar
what are you talking about?

>2) dmenu and derivatives still won't run ever since that update before. how can i fix this
you probably need to run it as

dmenu_run

or

compgen -c | dmenu

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whats the status of wayland? when are we gonna get drivers for it? i heard that ubuntu will switch to mir soon, does it mean derivatives will switch to wayland too or are they gonna stay with X?

>>52364232
>wayland
nice bloat

>>52364215
My bad, windows that have menubars won't let me access them. The problem persists in awesome, too. Gnome doesn't have it though.

dmenu returns when ran

X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)

LINUX 4.4 RELEASE

>>52364264
>LINUX 4.4 RELEASE
nice blog Linus, now go back to work faggot

>>52364232
You're getting a couple of different concepts mixed up.

Wayland is done, what we need right now are compositors making use of wayland.

Drivers exist already. Open Radeon/AMDGPU, nouveau, and Intel can all use wayland.

Mir is its own thing it has nothing to do with wayland it's canonical's own brand of X basically. Derivatives of ubuntu will switch to wayland because I really doubt the DEs will bother adding Mir support

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>>52364287

>>52364171
I think these images may scare people away from CLI because they look so massive when they're put like that, yet they only barely scratch the surface of what you can do on a command line.

These are good if you already know 80% of it and want to discover little gems of the shell like pushd/popd and job control but if you are complete beginner these would probably be intimidating. If you just use a command line every day for at least a month you would probably know 80% of these commands without ever looking at this image.

>>52364392
>getting scared of anything that can be made to go away by just shutting your eyes
people like that don't deserve the oxygen they're breathing

>>52364409
faggot

>>52364256

fixed it, it's xinerama fucking up everything

>>52364299
>Mir is its own thing it has nothing to do with wayland it's canonical's own brand of X basically. Derivatives of ubuntu will switch to wayland because I really doubt the DEs will bother adding Mir support
Canonical is fucking retarded. It will be upstart all over again.

>>52364570
At least upstart was actually useful at one point though. Mir is just plain redundant, there's actually no purpose in it existing as far as anyone can tell. It was literally announced after wayland was already finalized and there was a device shipping with wayland support

>>52364201
just ask, maybe someone will be able to answer it.

How can i make xrandr remember my custom resolutions?

>>52364803
/etc/X11/xorg.conf

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what should i use? yes, no or something else? what will break if i choose yes?

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>>52364826
>touching systemd
That's like putting your hand in a small cage with a rabid dog.

>>52364845
maybe but am i about to accidentally the whole dog?

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What does this mean? It happens when I try to start my Win8.1 VM using virt-manager.

>>52355500
it's just numix dark and i used the waveform seekbar and the infobar plugins. that's pretty much it. the design mode is easy to use and picking colors should be easy. most colors should already be set after installing numix dark.

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>>52364863
youll make lennart very very sad

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friendly reminder

http://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html

The rebuttal pic to this is just some freetard from /g/ saying: Everything you claim is wrong, even though you provided tons of sources. I don't have to prove shit myself though, because...

Don't waste your time on this garbage OS. There's a reason why it's stuck on 1.5% and 99.999% of people who try it go back to Windows/OS X.

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>>52364925
Even a friendlier one

>>52364884
You have a little button that says "details" anon.
For the solution, there is google.

But because it says it cannot write to some directory, have you run it with root privileges?

>>52364925
daily reminder that the author of this still uses GNU/Linux every day and said that he never claimed that Mac OS or Windows are ready for the desktop either.

>>52364925
>The rebuttal pic to this is just some freetard from /g/ saying: Everything you claim is wrong, even though you provided tons of sources. I don't have to prove shit myself though, because...

You can't argue.

I will not post the rebuttal pic anymore, someone would have posted it for me.

Sup /g/, tech il/lit/erate retard here looking to install some kind of Linux OS on a Thinkpad laptop I bought because everyone here seems to be shilling it. I followed the flowchart (https://wiki.installgentoo.com/images/1/12/Ospicker.png) from >>52364162 which pointed me to Mint, Zorin, PCLinuxOS, Ubuntu LTS or elementary OS (don't really mind if it looks like Windows or not). How do I narrow it down from here though? Should I just get Mint since that seems to be pretty universally said to be the easiest? I suppose my other high priority, except for ease of use, would be anonymity, so any pointers towards how I might maximise that would be appreciated. Cheers.

>>52365019
go for mint or LMDE first, move to debian later. just let it take a few weeks. don't rush.

>>52364884
>>52364953
Here's the whole error: http://pastebin.com/7E1wspYj

I tried googling it and nothing seems relevant.

>>52364826
nothing appears to be broken just yet.

>>52365043
Also, running as root (from terminal) gives same error.

>>52365043
>>52365070
>I tried googling it and nothing seems relevant.
Then it's fucked lol what else did you expect?

What distro, kernel?
Maybe you're lacking some package?

>>52365106
Fedora 23. 4.4rc8.

I have no idea. I don't think anything changed. It worked the other day and I woke up today and it didn't work.

I'm going to try to boot a previous kernel.

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>>52365132
>rc8.
Just fuck off

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So i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and decided to use it full time. I would like to know whats the best DE that offers a different experience then windows? Ive already tried cinnamon KDE xfce etc but i want something that feels new (i already tried gnome 3 but it feels like windows 8 to me ie built for touch screens). also i would like to know some good ricing methods.

>>52365040
Will do, thanks.

>>52365019
what thinkpad model m8?

post a pic with your favorite book.

>>52365148
It's been stable since rc1, anon. Plus my system is Skylake, and 4.4 was the only option when I built the system.

>>52365132
Using an older kernel version didn't help. God dammit I don't want to lose this VM.

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>>52365210

Refurbished T410 from Ebay for £140. Did I do well? Get ripped off?

Pic related is the best thing I've read in a while, not sure about all time favourite though.

>>52365254
that's the one I'm using right now.

you'll like it i'm sure anon.

>>52365187
>ricing
>Ubuntu
Lol.
But anyways try i3 (gaps), awesome, or open box. These are all WM so you will have to find programs yourself.

>>52365262
thanks ill try them out.

>>52365261
Thanks man. You'll probably see more of me in this thread in a few days' time when I actually have to figure the bloody thing out.

>>52365317
just be sure to actually try searching your problem before you post, not only is it better for the thread, but you gain experience by troubleshooting it yourself.

Guys, I'm thinking about installing slackware? The latest stable release was 2013, am i going to be installing 2 year old software? i thought slackware was supposed to be secure. How often does software get patched on Slackware.

>>52365262
You do know that every distro can be made to look the exact same right? Typical archfag enforcing the stereotype that archfags know nothing about gnulinux

>>52365389
No they can't. Prove me wrong.

>>52365389
If you are going to do it do right.
Having 2000 packages installed on your system that you dont use seems pretty pointless

>>52365438
>he thinks arch is the only distro you can install minimally

>>52365438
Yeah. GNU coreutils is useless. Why don't they split up ls, cp, mv into different packages?

Is arch secure or is that a meme?

>>52365545
as secure as you make it.

>>52365476
If you want to go through all your installed packages and delete them yourself be my guest. Like I said it's a waste of fucking time.
>>52365481
What the hell are you even on about. Coreutils is actually useful. Why would you split it up.

>>52365545
arch is not secure.
The packages are sent over http

>>52365565
>what is a debian minimal install
you never used another distro for longer than a few months did you?

>>52365574
>>52365596
Thanks, I'll go with Debian and call it a day.

>>52365574
> how do i configure my mirrorlist
https://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/all/https/

>>52365565
>What the hell are you even on about. Coreutils is actually useful. Why would you split it up.
Because sometime people want to list something but don't want to move a file because of security reasons. rm should be split up as well.

>>52365596
Are you retarded. The other anon said ricing on ubuntu not debian. How does a debian minimal install have anything to do with that.

>>52365649
because debian isn't the only distro with a minimal/netinstall fucko

>>52365649
he replied to >>52365476
also you can also do a minimal install of *buntu AFAIK but i don't like canonical so i didn't test that out.

Guys. I'm getting really fucking paranoid right now.

How is TAILS for a main OS? I'm thinking about DDing everything and starting clean. It worked for Snowden. Can it work for me?

>>52364299
Also Nvidia is working on Wayland support for their proprietary driver. Legacy Radeon hardware with fglrx will be the only hardware/driver combination that can't do Wayland.

>>52365639
thank god poettering is in charge and not you

>>52364884
Windows >=8 is incredibly fussy about what virtual hardware it will use. Try changing the vCPU topology to one core per socket in virt-manager.

>>52365729
exactly how paranoid are you? do you own an external open-source random number generator? snowden said something about qubes recently.

>>52365761
>I don't understand a thing about UNIX philosophy

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>>52365729
Snowden wasn't using tails full time. The point of tails is to have a read-only livecd that doesn't store any sensitive data, only tools needed to exchange it.

If you want a GNU/Tinfoil OS look up for Qubes.
As long as you have a machine powerful enough to handle it with reasonable performance.

>>52365778
There's just one thing to understand about UNIX philosophy.
It's a confirmed meme, set of arbitrary rules noone actually should give a fuck.

>>52365790
reading up on qubes, it sounds like you could actually be a good approach as an OS for non-expert computer users. tom scott kinda explained something like it https://youtu.be/kNm-b1UXGTY?t=3m35s

>>52365884
>it sounds like you could actually be a good approach as an OS for non-expert computer users.
good approach? maybe
Remember that for security reasons qubes does not allow any 3d acceleration in the virtual machine container.

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I keep getting this weird error while trying to install Arch saying that after thirty seconds, the USB isn't being recognized. I'm using all of the default settings in Rufus to make this USB:
>MBR partition scheme for BIOS or UEFI
>FAT32 file system
>4096 bytes for cluster size
I'm trying to install this on a shitty Acer Aspire One I found in my attic. Anybody have an idea of what could be the issue?

>>52365958
>Anybody have an idea of what could be the issue?
yeah, arch.

>>52365958
Oh and I don't think it is the ISO, I'm able to run it just fine in a VM.

>>52365958
>Rufus
are you trying to use arch as your first distro?
that's a mistake.

>>52365966
This isn't a very powerful netbook. I hear Arch is super lightweight so that's why I chose it.
If I can use something else I'm all ears.

>>52365773
Well let's just say I did things years ago I'm not exactly proud of. And I definitely don't want it to resurface.

I think I'll be able to get one without ending up on a list. Right now I'm just on Tor at work reading up how to get off the grid.

>>52365790
I definitely can get behind that. And I'm okay with things being readonly. Don't need to store any information on it anyway. I have a home server that I'm planning to wipe and use the highest levels of encryption I can get. I'll probably do the Chromebook where a folder is actually a shared folder on my server.

>>52365991
I played around with Debian a couple times on a VM. Arch seemed like a better choice for this thing.

>>52365995
>If I can use something else I'm all ears.
If it's neither powerful not new debian stable running lxde should do just fine.
Just make sure to download the iso with non free repositories enabled. Once you get it done you have like 3 years from ever having to maintain it. Isn't that a nice thing?

>>52365995
debian netinstall expert mode (minimal install), install it with lxde or openbox. your laptop is not as shit as you may think.

Is anyone else having trouble downloading the Debian isos?

>xkcd
>anytime

Back to plebbit

>>52366221
no, works fine using us and german mirrors. where are you? what are you trying to download exactly?

>>52366254
>trip
dont forget to take your buddies on your way there

>>52366254
Hello, shitty apps guy.

>>52366299
who what

My laptop's fans are running at full speed even while idling. What's going on?

I'm running 4.3.3-2-ARCH on a thinkpad and this is the first day it has happened.

>>52366318
>What's going on?
arch

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I can't decide what DE to use. Can I simply type

pacman -R lxde

to remove the whole LXDE and install another one?

>>52366318
check if there is some application which is running 100%

>>52366279
I just want to install Debian via minimal net install. The page I'm on is
https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst
Am i on the wrong page?

>>52366352
I think so.

But if you cannot decide, install a display manager and then you can just select which environment to run when you start.

>>52366352
I don't think you can remove a package group.

>>52366363
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso

>>52366356
Nothing.
CPU load with firefox on: between 5 and 10%
RAM usage: 26%

The temps are completely fine, it's just the fans going nuts.

sensors
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +48.0°C  (crit = +98.0°C)

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1:        4596 RPM

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0:  +41.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +41.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +35.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

4600 RPM is way too much, it sounds like a jet and this is with automatic mode on thinkpad-acpi.

>>52366330
Nothing changed from yesterday when it worked just fine.

>>52366396
Thanks. I tried that link earlier and now for some magical reason it works now. Must have just been on my end.

>>52366318
Model?

>>52366352
Use -Rs. That will search and remove packages in that group that are not depended on by other packages. Or if you want to risk breaking a few things use -Rc

>>52366414
in case you need non-free drivers remember that you can always add contrib and non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list with your favorite text editor.

>>52366374
what if I deleted every single pagacke in the group? Would there be any traces left in my system?

>>52366373
Having 5 DEs on my PC isn't really what I was going for. I just want to try some of them for a bit and then decide which one I'm staying with.

>>52366427
Thinkpad T420 running arch.

I've been using
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_control_fan_speed
to set the speed manually but it's finnicky and doesn't even save after reboots.

>>52366435
Already downloaded and verified non free firmware. Will install it during installation.

>>52366455
Your tool might have fucked up and turned to disengaged. Post /proc/cpi/ibm/fan.
I'm using thinkfan from AUR on my X201t, by the way.

>>52366473
have fun then. if you don't set a root password during installation sudo will be configured automatically btw.

anyone have experience with coreboot?

i just need rpi/beagle, the soic 8 clip, and the jumper cables right?

just making sure, already have the how-to in another tab.

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>>52366430
alright, -Rs it is. Thanks a bunch!

>>52366486

cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
status:        enabled
speed:        4477
level:        auto
commands:    level <level> (<level> is 0-7, auto, disengaged, full-speed)
commands:    enable, disable
commands:    watchdog <timeout> (<timeout> is 0 (off), 1-120 (seconds))

Is thinkfan the culprit?

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>>52366529
saw it after I sent my other reply already. Trying it out now.

>>52366526
Auto means the fan is controlled by the BIOS, so I don't think thinkfan is even working.
You know you have to enable it to have it run on boot, right?

>>52365958
>RUFUS

Just use win32diskimager its better for linux isos
http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/

>>52366558
How is yours set?

By the way
>Automatic mode
>In automatic mode, the embedded controller sets the fan speed automatically according to system temperatures and some unknown algorithm.

And something's clearly wrong here because temps are NOT high enough to warrant this speed.

>>52366585
The BIOS algorithm is shit, hence why I'm using thinkfan. Here's my config:
http://sprunge.us/WjLX
Config should be placed in /etc/thinkfan.conf. You should enable the service with systemctl enable thinkfan, so it starts on boot.

Does anyone have a good linux ricing guide

>>52366622
Everything is on Archwiki.

The Nouveau driver didn't help my problem at all, usage still spikes when I drag/resize windows. One thing that (obviously) works is "don't show window contents while dragging" checked, but I'd kinda like a bit of middle ground between no contents shown and all contents shown if that's possible.

>>52366622
Arch wiki and wiki.installgentoo.com

>>52366614
Okay that's weird.
Now the fans are back at normal behaviour so thank you for that BUT

thinkfan.service           loaded failed failed

I did enable the service

 sudo systemctl enable thinkfan 

so you don't call me crazy.

>>52366710
Run systemctl status thinkfan and post result.

>>52366752

● thinkfan.service - simple and lightweight fan control program
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/thinkfan.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since lun. 2016-01-11 18:48:06 CET; 8min ago
  Process: 386 ExecStart=/usr/bin/thinkfan (code=exited, status=4)

janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad systemd[1]: Starting simple and lightweight fan control program...
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad thinkfan[386]: thinkfan 0.9.1 starting...
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad thinkfan[386]: /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal: No such file or directory
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad systemd[1]: thinkfan.service: Control process exited, code=exited status=4
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad systemd[1]: Failed to start simple and lightweight fan control program.
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad systemd[1]: thinkfan.service: Unit entered failed state.
janv. 11 18:48:06 thinkpad systemd[1]: thinkfan.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.

So I guess the lack of proc/acpi/ibm/therma/ is bad. What should be in that file?

>>52366796
Temperatures in Celsius.
What do you have in /proc/acpi/ibm?

>>52366827

ls /proc/acpi/ibm
beep  bluetooth  cmos  driver  fan  hotkey  led  light  video  volume

>>52364204
Since your new,I will explain. Wife's son is a meme here

>>52366842
Huh.
You can use the sysfs interface instead of thermal. Read thinkfan's readme.

can i set up dual boot with windows when i have debian already installed?

>>52367134
you can, but you need a live usb to reconfigure grub after installing windows.

Hi friends, here's my problem.
My PC is running on Linux only, no Windows dual booting.
But I really wanted to create a Windows partition so I could dual boot to play Dragon's Dogma. What's the easiest way to do this? Formatting?

>>52367379
I'm not your friend + If you ask this that means you don't use a fs that allow resizing partitions on a mounted drive so you'll have to boot from a live media (like Gparted one) to achieve your will.

Guys what should my hostname be?

>>52365958
DD is the answer

>>52367465
l337h4Xstation

>>52366516
>bandage on her elbow
>stretch marks all over her hip and thigh
>disgusting dark knees
>shitty tattoo on foot, other one looks discolored

gross pig

>>52367465
(Le) Horla

>>52366017
>>52366030
Well in that case I'll try debian. I'm not really sure which ISO on the site has non-free repos enabled though. Am I looking in the wrong place?

>>52367496
>>52367552
Sorry guys, mom already came up with Debil.

Can I run my host headless and passthrough my single gpu to a kvm guest?

After i purchase an i7-5820k and asus x99-a /usb 3.1 motherboard, I'll be low on funds but i have a gtx 750ti specifically purchased earlier for passthrough.

My other gpu is probably going to be a gtx 980ti or a refurbished r9 fury X.

>>52367626
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/

>>52367465
you can name it dipblue, but there's one requirement for it: you must install or compile stockfish on your pc and go beat cucks at online chess with it.

>>52365254
t420 for 73£ incl. postage. 2012 model, i5 + 4gig ram. Very good condition as well. No hdd or charger tho

>>52366622
ref.ochazuke.org

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>>52367465
there's only one correct answer

I'm having trouble with DPI. I'm running archlinux with i3 as my WM. Drivers wise I've got xf86-video-intel installed, and that's pretty much it. Google hasn't really helped me out. My laptop is 3200x1800 at 276 DPI so 96 is quite straining on the eyes. How fix?

Should I just use guided partitioning on Debian? Or should I look up a guide to do it manually?

>>52368294
during the install? just use the guided one and make /home an extra partiton with ~66% of the available space.

>>52367639
So guys, is it possible to use a single gpu for passthrough?

>>52368451
no, you can use your intel hd one though

>>52368451
I was about to ask this. Figuring it out would be pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16dbAUrtMX4

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>>52368512
>>52368451

New linux user here, what do to prevent gaining weight?

>>52368629
Cut the bloat

kek >>>52367840

>>52368629
exercise. gentoo users have the comfort of being able to lift while compiling.

>>52368557
what type of machine does it need to passthrough ?

and it's not exclusive to arch linux

On a fresh Debian install. How do I allow a user to mount my other harddrive or launch synaptic without having to type the root password over and over?

>>52368827
you need 2 gpus and a CPU that can do either amd-vi or vt-d. easiest would be an intel cpu with intel graphics and an amd gpu as far as i know.

>>52368852
Add the user to plugdev group AFAIK

>>52368852
Simliar question: How to change the sudo timeout time?

I did a minimal install of Debian and now have access to the command line. I'm not really sure what to do now, like how to get packages and stuff. The commands I'm trying to use don't really do anything. I thought it was me not being root but I already established myself as root.

>>52368852
>launch synaptic
Basically they need sudo access.

apt-get install sudo && visudo 

Add your user to the sudo group, log all the way out, and log back in. If you're using a DE it will integrate with sudo and prompt you for your own password rather than root's.

>>52368946
sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
sudo apt install xorg
sudo apt install <insert name of DE here>
i recommend xfce (the package is called xfce4)

>>52368980
>apt
you mean apt-get?

I'm trying to install virtualbox on a 64 bit windows operating system. It only lets me create 32 bit systems. Shouldn't I be able to make a 64 bit Ubuntu machine if my operating system is 64 bit? What am I doing wrong?

>>52368980
Don't forget xfce4-goodies for most of the other stuff that usually accompanies a DE, like xfce4-terminal.

>>52368294
guided encrypted one. chose the one with separate partitions for /, /boot, /home, etc.

>>52368946
what are you doing brev? jumping into the deepend when you don't know how to swim?

>>52369012
i always use aptitude so i wouldn't know but i think apt install is enough.
>>52369019
pretty sure unless you specify not to use suggested packages goodies will be installed aswell.

How do i select which packages to download when I'm prompted to choose? Do I just separate the numbers by , ? Is there a way to select the few I DON'T want to download?

>>52365771
I don't know why, but the CPU setup was all sorts of fucked up for the VM. I didn't change it, and it had been working for about a month straight without a problem. I got it sorted out and now it boots fine.

Does anyone have some information on getting a VM to see the local (host) network? I want to be able to backup my Win8.1 VM to my fileserver.

>>52369021
that's kind've exactly what I'm doing.
>>52368980
I'm getting errors saying I can't locate certain packages. Am I not connected to the internet or something? I set it up in the installer.

>>52369015
you need to enable virtualization in the bios.

trying to start LXDE via startlxde throws a Segmentation Fault.
I installed xorg and then lxde

>>52368893
Guess I'll try this
>>52368953
Already have done that. I want to access them without any password at all however, essentially to grant the user permanent root privileges for these two tasks.

>>52369101
type nmtui to see if you are connected. report back.

>>52369132
>I want to access them without any password at all however
That's a bad idea and you should feel bad. It would allow any random-ass browser exploit to install arbitrary packages on your system.

>>52369101
hope you drown then.

yeah friendly thread whatever, don't just expect us to just lead you to a workable desktop, when you don't even know how to install packages. go back and do full install.

>>52369148
Dude it's my other harddrive, there are no system files in there, just cold data storage. Concerning synaptic, I thought it restricts installing arbitrary packages outside of the repositories that are signed to it, or am I wrong?

I went balls deep and installed Debian testing. I love xfce, but why do some programs look awful? qbittorrent comes to mind easily. Transmission is great though.

Do you guys think gtk will stay relevant?Or will qt take over?

>>52369203
I wish both would die a horrible death.

Any list of whats DE specific in an Ubuntu install? ie. changing wallpapers in whatever Ubuntu setting wont work if I have i3 installed but the driver manager will

I just finished installing Debian with the nonfree firmware for my Intel nic card and for Ethernet. I installed the firmware during setup, is turning on non free and contrib repos necessary?

>>52369183
>Concerning synaptic, I thought it restricts installing arbitrary packages outside of the repositories that are signed to it, or am I wrong?
If you can run Synaptic you can add repositories and keys.

>>52369197
because
>>52369203
>>52369215

>>52364146
so I did as everyone urged and tried to install Gentoo

but I'm currently stuck as there is some kind of error in making the kernel... I'm not advanced enough to make a manual kernel, just ran the standard emerge --ask sys-kernel/gentoo-sources to have it automatically configure but I'm getting errors.

I am going to try again but has this happened to anyone before?

>>52369237
Is there a way to restrict just adding repos then, and allowing the user to freely install packages from known repos? Not sure about how common browser exploits are for Ganoo Lunex exactly.

>>52369224
it's not necessary but could make sense to keep the non-free firmware up-to-date. it's your choice.

>>52369197
Qt and thus Qbittorrent doesn't use Gtk themes by default in Xfce. Check this out:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_look_for_Qt_and_GTK_applications

>>52369296
>Is there a way to restrict just adding repos then, and allowing the user to freely install packages from known repos?
No.

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>>52369109
let me rephrase that:
now it doesn't throw a segmentation fault anymore for whatever reason, it simply writes pic related and stays there for all eternity
the wall of text on top of startlxde is the newest part of the log that's mentioned in the last message.

>>52369261
I don't get it. Another question which you might hate me even more for. Is there a list of programs which use the "new" gnome headerbars(client-side decorations). I like them and only found lollypop.

>>52369333
you mean gtk3? no idea where to find a list.

>>52369318
That's pretty damn sucky. There has to be some kind of workaround around this though for sure. How exactly does synaptic handle packages, is it just a fancy frontend for apt-get or is there something more to it?

>>52369352
Some gtk3 programs still use the old one. I mean the titlebars. Around a year ago gnome changed titlebars into one big line without file/edit and all that stuff and most people hated it. I like it though.

>>52369445
i thought you use xfce?

>>52369482
No I'm not the same guy as. >>52369197
I use gnome 3.

Plebian here, I know how to compile stuffs from github, but what's the correct way to install such an "external" program? When I use make install, the program is installed, but my package manager wount regonize the package and I can't uninstall it anymore without the original Makefile.

So what's the correct/cleaver way to deal with such packages/programs?

>>52369596
checkinstall

>>52369635
Thanks, will check that out.

>>52364146
Ok, so I'm trying to install Debian and during the install process it's asking for proprietary firmware: "rtl_nic/rtl8168e-3.fw"

What do? How do I get it on there and where do I get it from?

I'm trying to instal Debian 8.2.0, Jessie on a dualboot with Winblows VII(tm).

>>52369762
easiest would be using>>52367641
or just going through the installation from ethernet, adding contrib and non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor and installing firmware-linux-nonfree.

>>52368871
got a laptop which support vt-d and vt-x, a 940m and i7 5700hq

but I don't know for the integrated gpu

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>>52369844
>i7 5700hq
should work

>>52364925
>99.999% of people who try it go back to Windows/OS X.
Like you?
Too hard isn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWrmT0ovPE

>>52369827
I'm guessing I just take "firmware-8.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso" and put that on a USB? Do I plug that in when it prompts for the proprietary firmware?

>>52369934
you need to write it to disk like you did with the other iso. you already used.

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>>52364925
I'm sorry I REFUSE to bring advertisements to my PC, I might as well open a TV channel and watch infomercial
I don't want my browsing and typing habit surveillance because I have a decent respect for my privacy

>>52370014
surveillanced*

>>52369327
>could not connect to display
halp pls?

I need a firewall for Linux, whst do you guys think of ufw?

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>>52370056
don't "apt-get virus"

>>52364925
>No stability
Are you seriously implying windows doesn't break? Are you seriously implying windows has "something went wrong" shit that leads to memory dump? What the fuck?

>>52370056
ufw is uncomplicated.

>>52370150
>>52370181
Do i even need a firewall for Linux like windows does?

>>52370215
a firewall is always a good thing to have.

>>52370234
So is ufw good?

>>52370249
well it's certainly not bad. what do you want from a firewall?

>>52370249
>>52370351
if you want to learn about firewalls on GNU/Linux have a look at: imageboard that loves lain /lit/src/1447635013050-0.pdf

I'm trying to move xorg.conf.new to /etc/x11/xorg.conf.new but I keep getting told that there's no such file or directory. I'm using

sudo cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/x11/xorg.conf

How do I get this to work out?

>>52370351
I want a firewall that does its job.

>>52370411
OK, I'll keep ufw on for now and will read that later.

>>52370448
Just use iptables directly it's not very hard

wiki.centos.org has a guide for making a simple stateful firewall.

>>52370436
Clearly, there's no xorg.conf.new in /root/.

Are you sure you've done the steps to generate a xorg.conf to that location?

>>52370876
Pretty sure, I can open it in nano and it's not an empty file.

>>52370436
>>52370914
Wait, I see what's wrong.

/etc/x11 doesn't exist as a directory. It's a capital X:

/etc/X11

>>52371058
Ah, thank you very much. Worked perfectly. I'll make sure to watch case in the future

>>52364146
I'm gonna go install Gentoo, wish me luck

>>52369108
uhh... you sure? Im doing it for a class and this is nowhere in the instrustions

Trying to decide on a mail server, so far I'm thinking postfix. Any input?

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Does Arch break every now and then or is it just a meme? If so, why so many people use it?

I've been using Debian exclusively for a month.

Is there any reason I shouldn't switch to Elementary if I only do basic stuff?

It's much prettier.

>>52371456
It's a time-sink OS.

It's literally for people that have nothing better to do with their time.

>>52371456
I never got the appeal in arch, you can get the same ricing results in a better distribution.

Should i try to install Arch Linux on an actual computer now or should i keep playing with it in virtual machine?

>>52372051
How are we supposed to answer that, dipshit?

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I just installed Fedora and set up enlightenment, really loving this DE and distro, but i have this extremely annoying issue where the mouse will jump when i'm on the de.

with firefox or other full screen apps open it's fine, but when the dem is visible the mouse will randomly jump somewhere on the right side of the screen and left click.

It doesn't do this in gnome or XFCE so I know it's not a hardware issue. Any way to fix this?

Gentoo failing on the compile phase for me

I guess its back to windows :^(

>>52372114
guess so

>>52371456
It really depends. Some people have problems with it. I'm running it on a laptop (lenovo ideapad) and everything is running out of the box and it never actually breaks. I think its an old meme but I could be wrong.

>>52371171
>>52369108
i eat my words, you were right.

>>52371204
>Any input?
I've never used anything else, but I've been using Postfix for years in a relatively sophisticated configuration without trouble. My only complaint is that the configuration is a bit complicated, but I doubt that the alternatives are much better in that way.

Last night I created a Live ISO of Mint on a usb drive so that I can boot to it on my macbook. I used this installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ as suggested by multiple tutorials that I found online. It gave me the option of creating up to 4GB persistent storage for the system so I used that maximum as I am running on a thumbdrive of 128GB and only plan on using it for my Linux OS. However, I am curious as to whether or not I'm able to expand this persistent storage so that I can fit a few more programs on it and if I am unable to do so, am I still able to use the drive for storage outside the linux environment (in the space that isn't taken up by the OS/Persistent storage)?

>>52372472
Shift+Page Up/Down

This is probably a dumb question but can I use Linux for everything else but keep Windows 10 for gayming? Like do I install each OS on a different hard drive or something?

>>52371160
Do you need it yet?

>>52372524
>Like do I install each OS on a different hard drive or something?
Each operating system needs at least one hard drive "partition", which is a section of a hard drive that contains its own filesystem. By re-partitioning your drive (reducing the size of your Windows partition to make room for a new one), you can add an operating system to your current drive. You could also have multiple operating systems on multiple drives. All that matters is that you have at least one partition per drive.

If you have multiple operating systems, you will be able to select which one you want to use when you turn your computer on via a menu provided by a suitable bootloader, like GRUB, which is normally what Linux uses on desktop systems.

Just installed Arch. Seems like it defaults to the monitor going to sleep after like 10 minutes. Is there a config file somewhere for power management options?

>>52372524
>>52372591
>All that matters is that you have at least one partition per drive.
Typo correction. That should say "at least one partition per operating system."

>>52372598
In Gentoo you have to use "xset" to configure the X power management "features". These settings do not persist between sessions, so you have to apply them every time X starts. You can do this by adding them to ~/.xinitrc. I have to use

xset s noblank & xset s off & xset -dpms

in order to prevent screen blanking. Not sure whether or not it's the same for everyone on all systems.

As a side note, you can use "xset dpms force off" to put your monitors into standby, and presumably "xset dpms force on" to turn them on again. If you want your monitors to turn on and off at certain times of something you could use a cron job (you'd have to set the DISPLAY variable). After you use those features you have to do "xset -dpms" again or screen blanking will be re-enabled.

>>52372591
>>52372607
Thanks

>>52372693
X isn't even running, though.

>>52372598
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling

>>52372749
I have never been able to figure out how to disable screen blanking on the terminal. You will probably need to do something kind of hacky, like find a way to spoof keyboard input every few minutes or something. If you're talking about Wayland or something, then it depends on your compositor.

>>52364171
>init
>telinit
That guide was written in 1996?

>>52373013
Most systems still used SysV init until less than four years ago. Slackware still uses it, and Debian still supports it. Gentoo's OpenRC is an extension which still has the init and telinit commands.

>>52372874
That's X again. I'm just working from a console.

>>52372878
Weird, didn't have the problem with Ubuntu. There must be a setting somewhere, Google just keeps bringing up X stuff though. Maybe it's buried in systemd or something.

>>52370014
so disable it, jackass

>>52372105
update: it also does it during fullscreen youtube videos on other DEs

>>52373161
>That's X again. I'm just working from a console.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling#DPMS_interaction_in_a_Linux_console_with_setterm
This is a very handy tip if it works. I (>>52372878) have always been extremely aggravated by automatic screen blanking, and several years ago I asked /g/, Gentoo Forums, Linux Forums, etc, etc how to do this and nobody could tell me. I'd since given up because I don't use the terminal that often (as opposed to a terminal emulator).

I've been running Mint Cinnamon for a while now, and it works great. I just found a very nice setting where pressing CTRL shows where the mouse pointer is.

However now whenever I attempt to switch tabs in the file explorer via CTRL + TAB, nothing happens.

Other applications, such as Firefox behave normally. Is there a workaround so I can have both features?

What's the easiest way to uninstall a DE and replace it with another? I've always just used the default DE in linux distros but I want to customize... Using Debian currently, but want openbox.

Last time I tried this I broke my system like an idiot, anyone give a ELI5 for a non-gentomman?

Are there any tablet-friendly window managers for Linux? I have arch and an X220t. Touchegg is fucking garbage.

>>52373628
You dont need to remove the DE, just apt-get openbox and logout. You should now be able to select openbox from you login manager. Play around and test some DEs/WMs and when you know you will never use your DE again, then you can remove it, but beware: a DE includes usually some programs the will be removed too at uninstall.

Is any torrent client safer than another? Or does it not matter? I mean, you're literally connected to someone else's computer, downloading their files. Seems like that would be risky, even if you're just grabbing something innocuous like a distro ISO.

Using transmission right now.

>>52373674

That's been my problem I think. Whenever I install openbox, and then delete GNOME for example, half my system stops working. I had no idea why.


I just didn't want the "wasted" space I thought.

>>52373752

Yes, as long as you're not using something like uTorrent which is bonified malware.

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Any recommendations for a distro to run on a PowerBook G3? Grabbed a $2 333 MHz Lombard today, keyboard is cozy as fuck and I want to use it as an X terminal since I already have a Wallstreet 266 for anal gaping.

>>52373752
Don't use BitComet, uTorrent, or the official Bittorrent client.
The files are hashed so you know with a fair degree of certainty that they're not harmful.

>>52373866
I'm not too worried about the files, I usually md5sum against the hashes on the website anyway.

I just mean, like how can sharing with hundreds of people at the same time be safe? Is the protocol that secure?

>unzip stage 3 to flash drive
>600000 kB dirty, going down around 200 kB a second
Holy shit why are flash drives so shitty with lots of small files?

>>52373917
It isn't. That's why any form of public sharing is a risk. We're just saying that those torrent clients themselves are a risk which you can eliminate by not using them.

>>52373829
Tiger

what DE/Distro doesn't look like poo

>>52373967
Can't do X forwarding over SSH (tried on another shitbox)

Plus it will run slower than shit on 192MB of RAM, I wonder if Rhapsody or Puma could do it though.

>>52374019
CDEbian (^:

>>52374019
>poo
Every single one. Get a WM and make it nice.

>>52374019
Manjaro.

>>52374019
Window Maker

>>52371566
pls respond

>>52373788
Just reinstall whatever Gnome stuff you need, or an alternative, independently of Gnome. For example, if your file manager is suddenly missing when you install Gnome, it's because the one you were using is part of Gnome. Try Thunar instead.

>>52371566
>>52374260
Use whatever you want.

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meeeming hard tonight, trisquel helping a baby gentoo

>>52369218
Nitrogen wallpaper changer

following this guide, how to install gentoo by a guy in drag

I like it because he actually takes the time to explain many things, but I'm stuck at this part
https://youtu.be/E_vhQg5wDSY?t=736

I have a file called fstab like in the video, but it seems like its no longer an editable text file (the video is back from 2013). So nano doesnt work on fstab and using vi on it doesn't give me much to work with either

was this changed to a conf file somewhere?

>>52374357
what computer, I'm really digging them

Debian doesn't have that many things out of the box like make, gcc ,etc. What goodies would I be missing?

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>>52375025
asus eee pc 700 and 701. got them both off craigslist for $30! they are tiny and low powered, but take am sd card. i just ran out of space on the 2gb gentoo one, now to lvm with an 8g sdcard for the root. fuuuuuii

>>52365019
many 'modern' distros don't even run on older thinkpads, so if you have something like a pentium-m you should try lubuntu before throwing it out

>>52375110
build essentials

>>52365019
Both Mint and Elementary OS are good choices. Check them to see which one fits you better.

If its an old thinkpad, consider lubuntu

this is me
>>52375145
how can i setup root partition on an sd card but keep bios boot and swap partitions on integral ssd? internal storage is /dev/sda and sd card is /dev/sdc....do i just fdisk into each of those and set them up like it seems like? is that even lvm?

>>52375012
If you fstab isn't editable you fucked up, which isn't surprising if you're that much of a fucking retard to install any distro ny watching a youtube video guide. Moron.
>was this changed to a conf file somewhere?
changes from an editable file to a conf file? I'm not sure you're ready for gentoo.

>>52375636
It wasn't a file filled with text like I expected, so I thought I'd ask. But I checked the wiki and everything appears to be as normal https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Fstab

thanks for the reply dick wad.

>>52375673
Wow there's a fucking surprise.
I've not heard anything so funny all day.
>dick wad
I'm not the one installing gentoo by watching a man in drag on youtube and then asking if a file changed to a conf file because you can't open it with nano lol.

Searched around and poked around in config files but couldn't find an answer: anyone know if it's possible to remove window labels from the task panel in cinnamon?

>>52375742
It's possible, you have access to the source code.

>>52375698
I'm not the one who is so butt hurt lololol

you can go kill yourself

>>52375775
nice memeing
whatever you say kid

>>52375753
poorly worded; does anyone know how to save me some trouble

new thread
>>52375795
>>52375795
>>52375795

>>52375514
Your question doesn't make any sense.

I've fucked around with Ubuntu in the past, read the wiki and swapped over to Xubuntu.

First time giving a Linux distro a real shot, as I have a suspicion i am going to need to learn how to use it throughout my career.

Where should I start?

>>52375849
get familiar with the command line

>>52364171

How do I properly anonymize myself on Arch? What do I need to install, etc, to secure all my traffic?

>>52375946
>What do I need to install
gentoo

>>52375961
Thanks for the meme, friend.

so i just installed ubuntu and im looking for a desktop environment that is different then windows. ive already tried xfce kde cinnamon etc but they are too close to winblows for me. i basically want t try something new.

>>52375985
you fool
>uses arch, thinks gentoo is a meme

whats the difference between a window manager and a desktop environment

>>52376058
one controls windows and the other controls everything

>>52376135
then why is it when i install openbox it shows as a desktop environment at the login?

>>52376168
because you use a shitty login manager which treats you like a retard?

>>52376168
All you need for a graphical session is a way to manage windows. Openbox doesn't give you a file manager, font configuration, an editor, power management tools etc. That is why you can log in to it but it is not a desktop environment.

>>52375145

mah nigga.

I love netbooks. I've got three asus eee PCs and five dell mini 910's.

My eee pcs are actually a bit better though, they practically qualify as "deluxe netbooks" if such a thing exists. a 1015pem, a 1015pn, and a 1025c. The pn actually includes a dGPU (nvidia ION), and can squeak through FO:NV.

I am planning on giving most of these away to cousins/charity once I load them with emulators, already donated one a month ago to a children's christmas program thing.

The pn stays with me though, it's pretty funny to *sort of* play modern games on a 10.1" netbook

>>52365019
Don't run mint; it may be the easiest but there's a bunch of things wrong with it. Granted, that's just stuff I've heard thrown around here with no real backup, but it's enough to convince me not to use it.

Lubuntu is probably a safe bet, or Ubuntu MATE. Don't use vanilla Ubuntu; it's prepackaged with Amazon Spyware.

Alternatively, install any Ubuntu distro but vanilla and install Cinnamon DE to it; that's basically Mint but with the functionality of Ubuntu.

>>52373181
> he actually thinks Windows will let you disable adware/spyware/anykindofwaremicrosoftshovesonyou

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>>52376643
>>52365019


Typing this comment from a Thinkpad x200 running Lubuntu LTS.

I fucking love lubuntu. "minimalist" without being arch/ haxxor/ autist shit, runs lighting fast on pretty much any CPU made in the last 10 years.

Even my mom can use it, not even memeing. No Ubuntu Unity shit where you got to relearn everything computer just to launch a terminal.

Pic related is my desktop, it doesn't come exactly like that out of the box but all you got to do is spend 15 minutes experimenting and right-clicking on shit the taskbar and you can get it "tastefully riced"

If you want "pretty", then yeah try Mint, Elementary, HRT