>not having a mini ITX gaming rig
SLI is overrated.
Can't wait for Pascal for that stacked ram. It'll basically be like having SLI without the disadvantages.
1 HBM = 4gb of stacked GDDR5
In other words, 4 HBM = 16gb GDDR5
> Waisting all that space on a shitty cube htpc
Not joining the ML08B master race
This case is small enough for my needs, plus I don't have to compromise on cooling.
I bet you guys sure are grown up huh
Motherfucker I have a microATX mid tower and it's 4x as big as the case in the OP
>buy microATX thinking it'll be about as big as an Xbone
>$80 noctua cooler
>$14 per noctua fan
An H100i GTX would be cheaper, quieter, and cooler.
Presuming the NAS I just built manages to withstand the test of time, it'll pave the way for me to downsize my tower during my next build (no more need for several hard drives, I can make do with one and an SSD). I feel like a moron for buying a Define R4 last year.
The main thing I worry about with mini-ITX is the firmware not supporting everything that a full sized board would; gotta do some research and find some good ones. I've put all my upgrades on hold for now though, considering the only reason I really NEED to upgrade is the Rift, and I refuse to pay $600 for it. So, might as well wait another generation. My 660 isn't a bad card, I'll survive a couple more years on it. This i5 2500k just keeps on chugging though; nothing I've thrown at it has been too much to handle.
>that CPU cooler
holy shit, that's even bigger than my Hyper 212 EVO
I bought a a full tower. Its supid big. I only have one gpu but I wanted the ample airflow. Living in Australia it does get quite hot.
Did I dun goof?
Tempted to sell it for close to its original price and and pick up a smaller case. Thoughts?
I thought it looked cool. Does not go with my setup at all. I fell for the meme, I hate it.
Just so we get this straight, the two fans on the CPU cooler come with the CPU. The fans in the case I bought separately. I'm assuming you're not talking about the case fans as there are three if them and you're talking about two fans.
(The price has gone up a lot since I bought it)
>sister going away to college
>asks me to build her a computer
>"I want a big computer just like you, anon!"
>"No you don't"
>"YES I DO! I AM A GIRL GAMER AND I NEED A BIG COMPUTER!"
>get her a full tower
>99% empty space
>weighs a ton
>she drags it back and forth from home and her apartment every other weekend
>literally has to use a dolly because she can't lift it
>implying that the 212 Evo is a big cooler
>being this new to computers
I had one but their shit everytime you want to change some hardware (ie hard drive) its a massive drama nty. I still have my mini itx mb in a Micro atx case still small but more versatile case. I think Micro is the way to go desu.
>YES I DO! I AM A GIRL GAMER AND I NEED A BIG COMPUTER!
huh? I've built more than one Source 210 build for customers all while using the Hyper 212 EVO. There is probably half a mm between the very top of the cooler and the side panel, but it DOES fit.
Getting this sexy beast for a HTPC
It'll only cost me $60 because MicroCenter is the tits.
Yeah, well maybe you should've assumed that I was, OK?
Jesus christ that feel.
Why is it so hard to find small cases though?
Like look at this thing, this case is one of the smallest ones I could find (14x13x12) and it STILL has so much fucking empty space.
How is this MICROatx and the cases are 80% empty fucking air, this upset me considerably.
What's a small, quiet case?
I want to downsize from my Define R4, but I love how quiet it is.
BTX boards have two slots, but they're exceedingly rare.
Which is strange because two-slot cases are quite common. What if I have a single slot graphics card? Haha oh wait, modern single-slot graphics cards don't exist anymore. Not even a GT 710 is single slot.
I'm pretty sure you can get a single slot 750Ti, but that's beside the point.
I do miss somewhat powerful single slot cards, though.
>case is still fucking huge and could probably accomodate mATX boards
>Samefagging this hard
Mini-ITX motherboards are not physically large enough for more than one slot - they cut off right after the first one. That said, there are a few slightly-larger-than-mini-ITX boards with two slots, like pic related. Being a bit larger, they aren't guaranteed to fit in every ITX case, but most cases that don't have anything directly in front of the motherboard (PSU for example) should be okay.
The real problem is that virtually every mini-ITX case on the market only has two expansion slots, and you'd need three to be able to use a dual-slot GPU + another card. Also, these two-slot boards are invariably designed for budget system builders, and lack high end features.
I went full retard and bought a mini itx without realising that my pcie wifi card won't fit next to my gpu. Had to buy a decent usb wifi adapter after I assembled my pc. This of course isn't a problem for anyone that can use ethernet.
I went mini ITX for my home server so it could sit on the shelf next to my router and modem. Well, the case isn't that small, it has 6 drive bays as I use it as a NAS, but the rest of the case is small.
Still rather use full sized for my desktop. Its a desktop, space doesn't matter, cooling matters more to me.
>wanting wideass longass flat shitter
>over a cute little cube
Well, I did have this build. Then it caught fire. New build is coming soon though, will have:
>Intel i7-6950X (rumored 10-core, 20-thread, 25MB L3 Cache)
>2x 8GB G. Skill DDR4 15-15-15-35
>Intel Series 730 480GB SSD
>Samsung M.2 NVME 512GB SSD
>2x Western Digital 3TB HDD's
>(DEPRECATED) slotloading Blu-Ray drive
>ASUS GTX 970 Mini
>Noctua NH-D9DX i4 cooler, 1x Noctua A9 92mm, 1x Noctua S12A 120mm, 1x Noctua F12 120mm
Whatcha /g/ents think?
>Inb4 "only" 970 or "THREE.FIVE"
It can easily be the size of an xbone.
Pic related (the oversize cooler is so they could achieve passive cooling)
A10-7850k in my ML08B sits between 50-60C under various loads. That's because I'm using a Noctua only rated for 65W cpus and that A10 is 95W. Just got a Scythe Big Shuriken 2 rev. B (58mm high -- case maxes at 60mm high coolers) but haven't put it in yet
ML08B really only allows cooling through the cpu cooler. There's a 500-page thread on overclock.net where one guy cut custom holes to hook up a closed loop water cooler (somewhere around pg 490)
Pic related. I've since rerouted the mobo headers under the psu and it's much cleaner
This is what I will be building in a couple days. I travel a lot so i figured it would be good to take as carryon...
What's the point of big cases anyway? Do small cases heat up easier?
I have a big one with a lot of extra space and been thinking about switching to a smaller case if I'll manage to fit it all in there.
they heat up more than a case with more space and thus more airflow but it can be easily mitigated with proper precautions.
People like to freak out about it though, I'm not entirely sure why.
Except I don't need a tiny case that's difficult to work in and probably gets terrible temps. I never move my Desktop. If you need something that you're moving constantly and don't want to pay for a laptop then sure.
What else do you have, anon?
I have a cheapo apartment with about 150 sq feet of space.
I have a vehicle.
I buy food.
And then what? Books, music, videos, the internet, games - all things which are digital.
The computer is the only entertainment device you need in your home. Everything else is a commercial establishment that will do the job better than you could at home.
>what else do you have
Wanted to regear my jeep and finish paying for my winchester supergrade but a mini itx build is screaming my name. Will probably do it after I redo my lawn.
How much better is the current top tier i7 vs the i5 4670k? I multitask a shitload and do occasional videos for business related things.
If they would piut a handle on top like that other Silverstone case in this thread, it would be great for bringing out to lan parties except lan parties hardly exist anymore.
It feels like all these technology came out too late.
Some day I'll repurpose it as a Mini ITX gaymen masheen, probably with pascal GPU's. Take the Xeon & drives out and put them to use in an actual server board. Replace Xeon with a 4690k.
I used to have that life, lol. Back then this decision would be easy.
I used to have a fully stocked bar and surround sound, etc. Now I can't because my 2 year old will mess with it and break it. Can't wait until he's 10-11 years old and can start nerding out with his dad. That's when my fun comes back into overdrive.
There's times I would, but 99% of the time I'd never even consider it.
Just had to pause some of my goals for now. It's all good though. I get to be the "cool dad" that likes gaming, building pcs and cars, shooting, etc. when he gets older.
All these pussy rigs. Real men use massive cube cases.
I had a bitch of a client (some spoiled Russian kike's son) who wanted the "ultimate gaming machine" that could play his CS:GO at 4K at 100+FPS...
And his 4K TV that was capped at 30 Hz.
So I built the kike and AMD-build (FX-9590, MSI 990FX board, one R9 280X) and charged him for the list MSRP of everything (the FX-9590 had an MSRP of $300+), my hourly fee, and an additional fee for rewiring his home entertainment room for the computer. I then told him to buy a 4K monitor and a better 4K TV, and the kike's father actually bought them for him.
They were literal kikes though. I'm just a kike by trade, and only to clients who think they know better than the person they paid money to build their computer because they didn't know how themselves.
I'm actually a really bad businessman because I try to save my clients as much money as possible so they can get the most for their money. I should be Jewing them for every part, but I can't bring myself to do it on people who are alright.
>cheaper cooler and quieter then the noctua nh-d14/15
>have 2500k with NH-D14
>virtually impossible to find a mATX mobo for it that isn't expensive as fuck or a piece of shit
>even if I could, don't know if the cooler would fit in most cases
>friend said I may as well just upgrade my cpu if I'm buying a new motherboard
what do? I didn't plan on upgrading for awhile yet, maybe even 2018 if I'm being honest, as I've had absolutely zero cpu bottlenecks in the 5 years I've had this thing, but having a smaller case would be really nice
Definitely more than I'd like at load.
Ay idle its audible from up close but not too bad.
If i wasnt going to move into the dancases a4 asap i would be using it, and would have stuck with my u9b-se2.
3tb hard disk are less reliable than 4tb.
do not take green wd, they break easily, i find my self confortable with the blue.
i don't know what do you do with a i7 6950x at 1500$, but consider spending less money on the cpu and take a real gpu card, if you have that money i suggest to wait for the top tier from pascal, they should come out soon
I wish this case had better cable management but I love it none the less. My gpu is at 24c idle and CPU 32c. Underload, the GPU never goes over 44c but my CPU ramps up to 46c.
If for some reason it wasn't though, soon enough Silverstone is going to be releasing a 700W 80+ platinum (!) SFX-L PSU, which would definitely be enough.
Also the i7 has a TDP of a mere 65W. I considered putting the 6700T in there but I'm not sure I'd be ok with 2.8ghz/3.6ghz vs 3.4ghz/4ghz.
This isn't included on pcpartpicker. You'd still get the idea though, no quad channel on Skylake means i'd still be sticking with haswell-e just because of this piece of work right here.
>Had no idea the power usage was that low.
Power usage is always low. I fell for the meme too. Could have easily done 550w.
I went 750W, but because I wasn't sure if I was going to SLI. This is on my mATX build though.
TDP is pretty low on skylake, had no idea since I hadn't bothered to look at it much after I built my PCs.
Have a fractal define r4. Love it, quiet and good to build in. A bitch to move however, would be nice with a smaller case for a future build. But in that case I'd like a small case that's quiet and would fit any size GPU and most cpu coolers.
The Fractal Core 500 or node 304 sound like they'd be a pretty good matches for you.
>Pic related, Core 500 with NHD15 and 980 ti Hybrid
Off topic but I think this thread can appreciate this
This bothered me about most air coolers, but why aren't the heat spreader fins arranged in a circular shape? Most of the air coming out of the fan disperses into a radial pattern, with a dead spot in the center behind the fan hub. If you arrange the heat pipes and the spreader to follow the contours of the fan, wouldn't you be taking advantage of the optimized airflow?
Sort of like what Zalman's been doing, except with more, flatter heat pipes around the edge of the cooler and the fins spreading inside to catch the air stream?
There wasn't much advance in terms of CPU power since Sandy. I'm still using an i7 2600 myself without any problem. If you are not extremely limited by space you should just stay with what you've got. Of course, if you really want to upgrade you'd need to get a new motherboard, given that Intel has changed sockets.
Even my 8 year-old little cousin has stopped playing games.
Go back to your virtual like life dumbass.
>implying playing videogames is like getting potty trained or riding a bicycle
It's not something everyone does at a certain age, just something some do as a hobby and some children do for fun.
At 20L and 18.6L, respectively, I wouldn't call either the Node 304 or Core 500 "big" for mini-ITX cases, but average. I'd say big is 25L+ (e.g., Prodigy, 250D), and small is <15L, so 20L is right there in the middle.
>mini ITX build
>as big or larger than an mATX build
It's an A05FN
Correct, it is just a pen. Here is a shitty picture when my second card just thrown in. I really need to fix it up a bit.
Never mind, I just found it. This was before I got some new parts.
I'm using a fuckhuge Silverstone RV02E-W in white, pic related, with an atx motherboard.
Is there any reason for me to go to a smaller case with the current setup or is it not worth it because I would need a new mobo for tinycomputer
>But why would having the mobo upsidedown help?
Because the GPU and PSU are competing for space. In the ATX version, the first four slots are above the PSU, so there's no conflict. In an mATX version, the longer the GPU is, the shorter the PSU, and vice versa.
Its purely a want, I'm on a 2500k and don't really see a need to upgrade for a while. That said though, going to a smaller case would be nice, are there any good small atx cases?