Analytics is NOT spying. It's aggregated data. It isn't or is stripping away anything personal and keeping it simple. Not your filenames but your file extensions used. Not your content being shown in your program but the name of your web browser/version. Not your inputs but the time you spent on one program. This can all be very useful information and is anonymized into one big cluster. Anything unique is most likely thrown out.
Why does /g/ get so upset of Windows 10 telemetry?
>Microsoft does not care that a random Windows 10 user (let's call him George), used a particular app for 40 minutes yesterday, or that he installed an app and only used it once, or that he changed his default browser from Edge to Chrome yesterday.
>In fact, they are so not interested in George's individual activities that they anonymize the telemetry data returned by Windows 10 so that it cannot be used to personally identify him. You and I are similarly protected.
>so that it cannot be used to personally identify him.
then why do they collect your name and address?
pic is their official privacy statement which can be found on their website.
They only have your name and address if you give it to them as part of a credit card or other registration such as buying Office 365 or OneDrive. My name and address isn't on my computer at all so MS would have to go to pretty extreme lengths to find it out.
>Windows 10 telemetry
- Snowden revealed that NSA uses Windows crash reports to hack into Windows computers.
- I have *never* allowed Cortana to run. Still, the Cortana process is up and running in the background.
- I disabled the indexing of the content of .txt, .rtf. and .docx files. A few weeks later, big auto update. Indexing of the content of .txt files is back on.
The other day, I worked to get deep into a "forbidden" system folder that looked suspicious (owning subfolders one by one), and find an ~ sms.intercept.db file (!). Is "intercept" a legit word "receive(d) sms", or do they hide this files and folders because that's where they store everything the US government told them to store? (I have never allowed sms sending or receiving, still, the .db file is pretty big)
I wish there was a simple button to switch back to Seven.
>I wish there was a simple button to switch back to Seven.
But there is, mate. Rollback option in control panel, forgot the exact location, I used it for my mom laptop to 7, since everything was running abyssal slow after changing to W10. Plus, she disliked almost everything about it.
>Analytics is NOT spying.
Get outta here Microsoft.
I love their cute smilies.
Kind of OT (apparently they can hack into almost everything), but I just finished watching Citizenfour.
I'm slowly switching. For now, Buntu finds it hard to handle my LAN with a shared internet connection, and my frequent switching from Wifi to ETH connection. Lots of work, each time, to solve small issues. Windows does it transparently...
Good tip, thx. I had read somewhere that it was limited to a few months, but it's still there.
It's been proven.
Or course you can disable it, but the fact that's it's enabled by default..and considering your average user would have no idea it's occurring in the first place..yeah
There are 3 telemetry choices, which, translated in English, must sound like "basic, optimal, and complete". I ticked basic. It's reassuring, but maybe I'm stupid.
I heard that some version of Windows (I use 10 Pro) have a "none" options, I don't have it.
> Smartphones use SIM cards and Mobile Data
> Busses require you to register your ride to monitor your movement
> Your Personal Computer data is monitored
Why is Big Brother so cruel towards common consumers?
>Or course you can disable it
Yeah, but one problem is that 10 tends to "forget" privacy settings during big updates. They were busted in November, so they implemented an option to remember privacy settings despite updates.
But I still found memory lapses, like I said above, I unchecked the indexing of the content of text files, after a big update, the indexing was back on!
No one knows what's going on and probably won't until its too late. I lost track of what all those files were doing back in NT 3.51 and there would be no single person even at MS that could tell you today what is going on. The corporate model is hierarchical and compartmentalized control, gag orders. This is why fascism is dangerous.
Time will tell, if people think a mac or windows is bad they are not even paying attention to "smart" phones. With default settings they are tracking everything. Half of the victims are children. Spooky world.
Most major search engines and some applications/games have been "data-mining" shit since 2000s.
It is all about ad revenue and market crap.
Wonder why ads are commonplace and seem to tailored to your search patterns? Not a coincidence.
>not even paying attention to "smart" phones
Yes, smartphones seem to be so good as honeypots / cash-machines that most apps developers don't even seem to care about making a desktop version.
>their official privacy statement
What bothers me with the big players' recent privacy statements, is how they don't even seem to try anymore. They've adopted a "fuck you" attitude : "we collect your name, address, sell it to third parties, we track your IP, habits..."
These statements used to try at least to sound reassuring.
I'm sure they actually sound worse than they should.
>It is possible to increase the privacy controls in Windows 10 by setting the feedback option to Basic, so that activity data is not sent to Microsoft - bar error reports.
But for the photo app for example, now that I unticked "allow running in the background", it keeps crashing. Anyway, I'm used to Irfanview.
You know how many people there are on the internet? No one (no one who's human) cares what dumbass_user11122123415353 does on the computer in his free time unless he's using it to hurt someone else
What if I do intend to hurt someone? I think I should still be only investigated using traditional means, without my rights infringed. If you infringe my rights, you justify my acts thereby making it a non-crime.
>Rollback option in control panel
"w-why are you rolling back?
> - my apps / devices don't work
> - previous version was handier / easier
> - previous was faster
> - previous was more reliable
> - other
>- Snowden revealed that NSA uses Windows crash reports to hack into Windows computers.
>Windows crash reports to hack into Windows
thats sound more retarded than it actually is, i cant imagine how stupid you must be
Would you allow an NSA agent in your home, but if he promises to anonymise the data he collects?
The answer is not no.
The answer is not yes.
The answer is simple: fuck off.
I have right. I get to choose. So you can fuck off whether it's anonymized or not.
>software is proprietary
>people take statements about the software from the company which develops it seriously
Reveal the source code or I will never ever believe anything that is said about it. It is my duty to assume the worst case scenario until the source is released at which I can audit it myself, and recompile.
>Finding machines that are exploitable and worth attacking is done using analytic databases such as XKeyscore. A specific method of finding vulnerable machines is interception of Windows Error Reporting traffic, which is logged into XKeyscore.
What I noticed was the "we have third party partners - we share your info with them" crap in everything. Since they don't name them, you can't check those privacy statements, not that anyone would have the time or energy. The only defense is just assume everything you do on the internet, any dealings you have with a corporation is now logged and collated forever - for some future Inquisitors use. We've been here before, the dark ages, creativity dies, paranoia rises and then the lights go out for 1000 years or more.
>Anything unique is most likely thrown out.
Okay, let's increase that "most likely" even higher. Let's have an option where it doesn't collect the data in the first place.
Oh wait, we're not allowed to control the OS.
>>It is possible to increase the privacy controls in Windows 10 by setting the feedback option to Basic, so that activity data is not sent to Microsoft - bar error reports.
It's not just error reports.
Security level is the lowest setting on Enterprise.
Security+Basic is the lowest setting on Pro.
can't you just understand THAT I DON"T WANT IT
I BUY SOFTWARE AND I CHOSE TO CHANGE SOMETHING IN IT
AND I CAN"T
SIMPLE AS THAT, THAT"S WHY I AM USING LINUX
Becouse it's respect me as human being, and tell me to whathever the fuck you wanna do, including updating or not, having some inserucity or having paranoic like.
it's just free, you can't force people to your solutions
Have you seen the cool new a... I mean, "suggestions"?
TAKE THE POO TO THE LOO, PARJEET
Enterprise requires: disabling Defender, Cortana, and Telemetry in Group Policy, and edit the separate registry entry for telemetry.
Or use a hosts file to deny any resolution of MS's servers.
If that data was not so important for M$ they would allow you to disable it, but they don't. Hard to believe that is only "Analytics" what they're collecting. Now back to your designated street, Rajeesh Kumar.
No they didn't. It's specifically mentioned in the settings for Cortana, that "things you type" will be used for Cortana. ie. you're being keylogged, even if you disable it. (Go ahead, turn Cortana off, you'll see a message that informs you that the data will be collected anyway, but Cortana will no longer use it)
>My name and address isn't on my computer at all so MS would have to go to pretty extreme lengths to find it out.
Like being a business partner with your ISP or telco provider?
They already know your name and address, m8.
Just annalists and aggregate data you say? Even if true it would still be a problem, but it is not:
>Analytics is NOT spying.
Irrelevant, none of the "data" they're collecting is of any particular real-world use to them. They never had a reason to collect that shit in the past with Windows, they don't have a legitimate reason to do it now.
Fuck you and everybody that looks like you.