>"The world’s first true plug and play Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) external graphics enclosure – the Razer Core supercharges your Ultrabook and transforms it into a full gaming setup. A Chroma-enabled enclosure that houses a full-length, double-wide PCIe desktop graphics card, 4 USB 3.0 ports and Ethernet, the Core has plug and play support for compatible graphics cards which means, there’s no need to reboot your system when you fuse the Razer Blade Stealth with the Razer Core."
>It's not Razer exclusive, you can just buy it and use it on any laptop with TB3.0 port.
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Can someone explain how this works in terms of drivers?
I don't understand how it redirects the graphics output back through USB, isn't there a bandwidth bottleneck there? Or does this only work with external displays?
desktop gaming at home, work outside.
nope, see the pic for real world benchmarks.
>still need external mouse and keyboard
>still have a weak cpu
>need to rely on a proprietary port
>still have to suffer a mix of windows, hardware and game issues limiting the use of the non-integrated laptop gpu
>still only 60hz
>limited storage, how are you supposed to hold 2TB+ game libraries external drives which aren't ideal for gaming either
at many points its just worth it to have a desktop
If you already have a discrete gpu in the laptop, you will most probably need a monitor. But if you only have integrated, then nvidia should work with the built in display due to optimus thing.
From what I understand the Thunderbird standard takes a port like mini-display, usb-c, etc and add additional functionality to it while maintaining compatibility with the original standard of the post they used. I could be wrong, and if I am please let me know, but that's what I understand
no, it's not apple exclusive port anymore. directly developed and promoted by intel.
>have to suffer windows hardware problems
it's nothing different than attaching a pci-e card to your desktop mobo. same port, same architecture and specifications.
USB-C is a type of connector,
thunderbolt is an interface type.
IIRC under the new specs for USB C, you could use it as the cable with many more different interfaces.
Maybe its finally time for a universal connector USB-C +thunderbolt
thunderbolt is like a container that implements every type of port on a pc, plus the thunderbolt specs itself.
any laptop with thunderbolt 3.0 port. probably the next gen macbooks too.
This. Optimus effectively sends a video stream of the rendered videogame for example to the integrated graphics. Although I don't see why a driver fix can come in and have the external optimus override the internal optimus like this anon said.
>gaming on those shitty 15 inch TN screens
At least get a decent monitor to go with that gpu..
and while you have that..might as well get a dock so you can use a proper keyboard and mouse...
and now suddenlly you're only like 1-2 components away from a full fledged desktop
I've had a DIY external gpu for a while now. Its pretty good for what it cost but I'd only recommend something like this if you've already bought a laptop and are too poor to get a desktop. Just get a desktop, its not worth it.
So basically you need to carry around a large, expensive external GPU and run it on your shitty laptop hardware (it's shitty, otherwise you'd buy a gay-mans laptop), whenever you can find a power point handy to plug it into?
I'm sorry, but IMO this is a solution to a problem that can't be fixed externally.
>Guys don't get big gaming laptops or macbooks, get a middling gaming PC and a cheap laptop, get cheap quality all around!
/g/ logic I've heard shilled many times
Now you can get a high quality laptop with an i5 mobile or i7 mobile, which when plugged in should be enough for any gaymen, a mid range or high tier GPU, and be fine
Good luck upgrading your cpu and soldered ram.
It's got to be a secondary plug. There's no way of getting it reliable power without it.
Also, someone give me a call when my phone can plug into a laptop dock/external battery which can then be plugged into my eGPU dock, using the same OS on each part.
PCIe bandwidth hardly matters now, and it will matter even less in the future with DX12/Vulkan and GPUs loaded with stupid amounts of HBM.
The way of the future is to just keep tons of shit in video RAM all the time but to let rendering engines and video drivers keep an externally consistent view of GPUs' memory space.
The only things that will flow from the CPU each frame will be simple instruction batches that execute pre-compiled shaders on the GPUs.
I can see this working for students.
>take laptop to lecture or class
>come to home/dorm
>plug in laptop to eGPU, plug eGPU into monitor
That gives you a solid system for gaymen or photoshop and a portable laptop for schoolwork without paying for both.
>buy laptop for portability
>have to carry around this huge box
>need TWO plugs to power both the laptop and the GPU
>12.5'' 4K/1440p screen
>6 months later
>GPU starts failing due to being moved around constantly, accidentally dropped, etc
That is not the intended use. If you want a gaming laptop to take around, do that. This is an odd hybrid system giving someone good games at home and and laptop to carry around on the go.
>chair and desk
>$2000 for laptop cpu and memory
>PCIe bandwidth hardly matters now
Hey, retard.. how exactly you propose that data travels from the external enclosure to the laptop if 'bandwidth hardly matters"? It does not matter how the card 'renders' a frame if it cannot consistently talk to the CPU/RAM at full bandwidth
go suck a dick. most modern games barely even notice losing 75% of a GPU's PCIe bandwidth.
that faggot was pretty retarded.
if he'd bother to glance at the rest of the thread, we would have noticed that there are apparently some situations where a GPU can have only 6% of its max PCIe bandwidth and still operate at 88% of max performance:
the only thing super high bandwidth PCIe slots seem to be useful for currently is multi-port 40GbE adapters or similar.
None of them do. Games aren't really multithreaded. At best you can hope for multithreaded AI, physics, and postprocessing.
But programmers are lazy. Sometimes asynchronous single-threaded is "good enough".
Probably irrelevant for the usual market, since the combo of good desktop + cheap notebook is still better, but for some people I can see that replace the desktop quite literally
Have the usual stuff at home, the big screens etc and just plug everything in
Would probably be enough for the casual games like Dota, CSGO etc
>external gpu for laptops
Just because it's technically possible doesn't mean it's not retarded and impractical.
Enjoy your cluttered desk and shitty performance, just so you can say that you saved $100 by not buying a desktop.
I hate this port of all trades shit
Buying adapters is the stupidest shit ever. Fuck thinness. Unibody macbook pros were the thin and light enough laptops. Anything smaller is pointless.
My laptop has 2tb of storage
Socket CPUs in consumer laptops will never happen because thinness, power consumption, and planned obsolescence
>The idea is you keep the box at home and take the laptop out with you.
Then just buy a fucking desktop for a couple hundreds of dollars cheaper with better specs than any fucking laptop to keep at home to game on.
Logical? A mobile device should generally be light and with a long battery life, the CPU will generally be lower power, a gaming desktop is all about performance.
The logical choice is to get a decent portable device and a desktop, so you don't compromise on either because the goals are opposite of each other.
I love this concept, and it is a shame Sony (now just VAIO) didn't itinerate the idea of a dock like to accept upgradeable GPUs too on later VAIO Z models:
Best of both entertainment and business worlds in a sole ultralight product. I miss the old Z.
Why the fuck would anyone want to use a laptop for gaymen?
The only place to play gaymes is at home, where you can get a capable mature solution like a desktop that doesn't thermal throttle or have a shit display, CPU, and RAM. Why would you tack on a million things to a machine that isn't built for the purpose of heavy 3D applications? This is marketed toward the typical clueless Razer cuck
>all these people missing the point
If you already have a laptop this will be much cheaper than buying a new desktop. Almost any modern laptop i3 or above will be strong enough, especially if you get one of those decently priced quad core i7 laptops.
Set your egpu up at home, use it like a gaming pc, then just unplug it and use it like a regular laptop. A gtx 960 would be great for this.
A gtx 960 is much cheaper than a new computer.
No laptops have thunderbolt 3 at this point, so you have to buy the $3000 overpriced razer laptop to make use of it, and probably and extra $400 (not counting GPU) for that GPU casing. Enjoy your savings.
You can get current egpu adapters for something like 50usd iirc.
A 50 dollar egpu adapter and a 200 dollar gpu are still cheaper than a complete desktop.
Also, expect Chinese clones.