IT'S OVER, X86 AND ARM ARE FINISHED.
MIPS HAS WON THE CPU WAR.
Linux distributions that work on Loongson:
Debian, specifically their mipsel port
Gentoo Linux, work in progress
Red Flag Linux
Mandriva, since September 2007
gNewSense, work in progress
CLFS, MIPS 32-bit,64-bit,Multilib
UTUTO, work in progress
Non-Linux operating systems:
OpenBSD, cvs repository work in progress
This isn't new either, it's been around since 2009.
The reason x86 and ARM CPUs don't need instructions for aiding emulation of opposing ISAs is because they have market adoption.
>He added, “You probably know the old line about dancing bears—they aren’t remarkable because they dance well, but because they can dance at all. I’ve seen so many ‘dancing bears’ in the CPU business that I no longer find them remarkable. Show me one that dances well, and I’ll feel differently.”
Give this guy a medal
He didn't say AMD, he only said Intel. AMD is just as bad as Intel. If more players entered the x86 market AMD would be even more fucked than they are now. AMD needs the duopoly more than Intel does.
Even such a long standing figure as AMD can't do it, what makes you think some irrelevant chinese company would be able to? Even if they could get a big chinese OEM like Lenovo to sign on, it would more than likely only see use in the entry level and most consumers would look at that shitty chinese branding and view it as a cheap, sub-par knockoff, which it probably actually would be.
Even in an era when there was tons of competition in the x86 market, Intel always at least maintained a rather comfortable plurality in the market, often an outright majority.
So meta. So trans.
Humm. This sounds familiar...
Did we time warp back fifteen years, or are they just hoping nobody notices this had totally been done before?
I've owned a laptop with one of their chips. It's been a long time. I thought long enough. But I still can't forget.
Why can't I forget that nightmare?
For the love of God why?
It's more like FX!32. It would be running a MIPS version of Linux. The emulation is only for running legacy software.
The Crusoe is meant to be used as an x86 and the real instruction set is hidden.
1.2ghz via eden with no sata and ddr2 ram.
63 dollars with shipping.
This was the one I was looking at, didn't notice the free shipping either.
If all you want is just an example of a VIA chip this might be fun to pick up and play with, this one looks like it's for low-power server applications judging by the dual NICs, and it would probably still be nice in that role.
But some FSF distro on it or something as an ultimate botnet-free communication system, maybe. Or just a seedbox.
Any retard can make an x86 compatible chip, making a fast one is another thing.
Holy shit I was thinking about this show the other day. My FAVORITE scene is when they go bowling and he says "Now that kid, he should be ashamed." Then the kid with the orange hair rolls his bowling ball right into the robotic pin collector, sets off the smoke alarm, enables the sprinkler, then it shows his face all confused. Lol don't know why that always used to kill me.
If they want to actually export it they will be. Shit, even if they could get around it it would more than likely be a failure.
Not even counting the massive amounts of capital you'd need to throw into a business to get it remotely ready to produce the chips, you'd have to find ways around whatever bewildering amounts of patents Intel and AMD put on pretty much every modern instruction set/feature addition to the x86 line.
In the off-chance to you get around even that obstacle course, you'd be spending years catching up to Intel in performance, something not even AMD has thus been able to do. In the meantime, you're stuck servicing the low-end markets that AMD has practically locked down. And selling that shit to the west? Fucking forget it, even if you could get a big OEM to sign off on that, no consumer is going to trust some shitty chinese no-name chip that will likely be even more expensive than comparable AMD and maybe even Intel options due to their low volume output.
You know the allwinner A20 boards you get shall as shit from china now? They will run rings around said via board. Admittedly they're newer, but they're lower clocked, and designed for an embedded market instead of the laptop. Htpc market like via was.
That via machine I had was the only thing sonce 2002 I had graphics driver issues with in Linux. And it wasn't even the 3d portions that sucked (that did such though). The basic 2D operations were even bad on it. A first gen EEEPC laptop blazed past it.
>Same reason a person might want to own a WinChip
I've never heard the euphemism, "collector's purposes", used for painful masturbation before.
Jokes aside, I may have a working box with a winchip & trident graphics somewhere.... Mostly I used it to make myself feel better about only being able to afford the AMD socket 7 processor. It was a reminder of how much worse things could be.
the WinChip was kind of cool to be quite desu with you
make it simple as possible, clock it fast as possible, made a pretty decent chip for low-end business applications as long as you weren't doing anything big on floating point calculations
VIA's x86 offerings are still shit out by the same design team
You know, I'd actually like to try out one of the loongson CPUs, but the problem is you can't buy them. The only consumer device that uses them is the lemote yeeloong laptop, and those are basically impossible to acquire now.
was there ever really any doubt?
mips has been leading the charge w/ efficiency AND compatibility since sgi took over the designs,
i'm sure it's been whispered around /g/ how god-tier sgi was in its glory days.
mips only stood to get even better since then
mips is overseen by mips technologies, a division of imagine technologies you dunce.
sure powervr is also owned by imagine technologies, & apple does indeed own shares in powervr, but powervr produces graphics chips, not cpu's.
besides, why would apple invest in mips when they've already spent so much trying to go w/ arm architectures for ios?
desktop MIPS under SGI like every other non-embedded RISC was stagnant as fuck after the dotcom bubble blew up though, any prospect that arch had in the high-end went down with them desu
>alien technology-tier workstations will never come back
yea, & besides intel has run into a physics barrier, their cpu's literally cannot get any smaller or go any faster, it is physically impossible.
& if they want to keep shelling out progressively better cpu's, they will eventually have to abandon cisc, & if they were to do that, i'd recommend that they adopt mips
actually nevermind I misinterpreted you're funpost desu, I'm thinking more of the shit you have to do when compiling software between different operating systems, don't think I've ever had to fight with compiling from source on any of my itanic/sparc shitboxes as long as I run linux on them
i mean, i'm guessing all they have to do now is reprogram the bios to see which architecture the system needs to run & reconfigure itself, then work out some bugs, & then they're golden