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80% or more of Linux uses that have argued about the privacy, security and open source aspects about computing have not attempted to and or do not have the technical knowledge to personally audit their operating systems kernel and all of its applications.

You try and force people to eat shit by calling it a free lobster dinner that you just have to raise the lobster first but you didn't even set the stones in your own tank.
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>>52290793
98% of all statistics are made up on the spot
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>>52290830
You made that up
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>>52290793
Shut the fuck up.
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>>52290830
actually 50% of all statistics are made up on the spot
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>>52290793
Dude. No. Dude.
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>>52290860
Make me
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>>52290793
Should you be posting pictures of that nature? Sicko
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20% of people capable of auditing code sounds pretty sweet.
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>>52290793
post moar of the grill pls
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>>52292209
Dumb anime poster
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>>52292259
dumb reddit poster
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It is pretty funny how people keep going on and on about auditing yet only a tiny fraction of them have the ability and willingness to actually do it. They just trust that someone else has done it for them.

>>52292259
Hello Reddit.
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>>52292282
>>52292303
I don't go on reddit. I've only seen those posts on /G/.
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>>52292320
Please just leave already reddit
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>>52292259
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>>52292337
kill yourself weeb
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>>52292259
GET OUT NORMIE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>52292348
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>>52292320
>>52292348
Redditors please go.
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So /g/ just tries to ignore OP and derail the thread everytime they're called out?

Makes sense. Bet someones gonna try to argue against that/further derail the thread with more shitposting.
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>>52292348
>browsing 4chan
>calls other people weaboos

>>52292374
OP doesn't have a valid argument. Just because most Linux users do not have the technical knowledge to do serious audits does not invalidate their argument.
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>>52292396
Yes. IT DOES. If you can't audit your code and understand that it's safe, then its just as safe as windows. Because you can't yourself determine that what you're using does exactly and only what you want, then you're in the gray zone of not knowing what your operating system does. The only thing you know is what you were told.
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>>52292348
You going to cry reddit faggot? You going to cry like a little bitch? Kek, go back to reddit because you don't belong here.
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>>52292413
No that's nonsense. Only one person needs to be able to audit. You don't have to personally know how to do it.
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>>52292433
/thread and checked
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>>52290793
Lets assume that about 1000 independent developers in the world have inspected each line of Linux source code. Proprietary, closed source code (like win) has been investigated by no independent expert. So how many times is Linux more secure than Windows? 1000/0=..
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>>52290793
I would tap dat ass with my privacy respecting cock.
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>>52292433
What if that person is actually incompetent, or is lying about the results of the audit? Or maybe he just missed something?
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>>52292433
No, that's nonsense. You put blind faith into somebody you never met in order to gain your trust and use their product. You're just as likely to be lied to.
>>52292533
Checked and this
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>>52292533
Then you're pretty much where you are with closed-source software, except that you have the opportunity to let someone else do the audit (or do it yourself)
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>>52292533
That's why independent audits exist.

This line of argumentation will always fail because audits are a possibility and do happen regularly to the linux kernel and other high profile FOSS. Meanwhile, none of this ever happens to Windows.
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>>52292337
>>52292365
>>52292367
>>52292396
>>52292431
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>>52292597
GET OUT
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>>52292597
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And this confirms that most linux users are fat weeb faggots. Good job, OP.
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>>52292733
Truuu
Czech'd
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I'm not going to sit here an read through every line of source code for my OS and every application on it. That is simple unfeasible. I have to trust that open source means enough people have looked at it and none of them have found anything unsafe.
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>>52291877

>the subject of the photo wore microshorts for comfort
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Toppest zoozlinga ;D
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>>52292888
Also check my trips you fucking pieces of neet trash
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I treat it like driving a stick vs automatic.
Only women drive automatics.
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>>52290793
The ones that can audit the programs and kernel would blow the whistle so high that even the normies would know the Linux kernel was compromised.
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>>52292888
>>52293077
Hell yeah!
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>>52292733
Hah! I'm a skinny weeb
Suck it, reddit trash!
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>>52292413
So I cant drive a car because im not a mechanic?

Linux is like a car. You can open the hood and check its parts to see if its safe. If you dont know shit about cars you get someone to check it for you. You also get tools like flashing lights to indicate if something is wrong.

Windows is also car. But you cant open the hood, you cant check if the parts are alright. You just have to assume it is.
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>>52293880
Cars are not operating systems. You can plug in systems to a car to do full diagnostics on them and find out what's wrong. Right under the steering wheel. You can also do this with Windows to diagnose problems.

But much like you can't edit most of the windows files, you can't just go into a car and start tampering around with breaking shit. It's made the way it is for a reason.
If your analogy held true, then a fabricated part from my basement would suffice as a replacement for each component in the car.
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>>52290830
78.9% of all statistical data said in a conversation is without a doubt made up on the spot. In fact if you add decimals it sounds even more convincing, like this bullshit I just wrote.
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>>52294583
Cars that have this Port... Have a computer in them.... What runs a computer?
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>>52294583
The point is the difference in attitude of the people who sold you the car. One intentionally welded down the hood in order to prevent you, the owner of the car, to look into car. You are intentionally prevented from exchanging parts . In the other car, the hood is open available for you. Now you might say, "I'm not a mechanic, I can't possibly look into a car" and that's missing the point. You should go find a trusted mechanic to help you achieve these kinds of technical matters. Car owners don't need any mechanical skill to tinker with their cars and computer users don't need any programming skill to tinker with software.
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>>52294651
>like this bullshit I just wrote.

i dont believe this. 78.1 is an extremely precise number to just throw out like that. i think you're lying.
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>>52290793
>80% or more of Linux uses that have argued about the privacy, security and open source aspects about computing have not attempted to and or do not have the technical knowledge to personally audit their operating systems kernel and all of its applications.
Even if they haven't, those things are still true about Linux.
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>>52294583
A lot of cars do have operating systems these days.
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>>52290793
It only takes one person to update the rest of the community with a patch. I don't need to read any code if I can find someone to do the work for me.
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>>52290793

In all fairness they wouldn't be able to audit Windows 10 either. Might as well go with the freedom option.
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>>52294669
>>52294862
HAVE not ARE.

>>52294773
I understand your point. But why would I trust an independent mechanic when I could take it back to my dealer for warranty issues instead of relying on some nobody with a high school locational degree? Or if I get lucky a very well respected and franchised mechanic?

I'd rather receive reliable, quality updates from Microsoft, a single producer of my product, than to have to search for hours about fixing minor issues like screen resolution and nvidia drivers. Might work easier in Ubuntu but even that is criticized as the amazon botnet.

Buy a car and get it serviced regularly by a trusted dealer or buy a car and be forced to learn at least a moderate amount of mechanics.
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>>52295113
Because all indie mechanics take the same training and certifications. If they didn't its illegal for them to take money. Dealer mechanics make more because "muh brand"
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>>52295113
But then you're entirely dependant on the sole provider to do the maintenance of your product. They may very well lie to you in their interest, and you won't be able to cross check with an independant third party.
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>>52295239
At some point people will have to trust a company to do everything for them.

It's just about when now.
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>>52295251
It may or may not happen, but you can't possibly see that as a positive thing.
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>>52295113
>But why would I trust an independent mechanic when I could take it back to my dealer for warranty issues instead of relying on some nobody with a high school locational degree? Or if I get lucky a very well respected and franchised mechanic?
Once again, the difference is in the **attitude of the company who sold you the car**. Everybody knows for a fact that when you buy and own a car, that car should be yours to do pretty much anything with (for matters that don't involve running on the public road). If I want to turn my Honda Civic into a drag machine, Honda doesn't punish me for doing so. I don't need to ask permission from Honda or the dealer. Now I would lose my warranty if I had one but I don't really consider that a punishment. If I learn and share some knowledge about my Civic, nobody's going to sue me for sharing that knowledge.

Proprietary software is different. When I have the software running on my computer, I am explicitly forbidden to look into it. If I do take the time to study the proprietary software then share the knowledge I learn, I can be liable for copyright infringement. Whenever there is a problem in the software, the only person that can possibly help me is the owner of the software and even then they help me because they choose to help me. I'm completely out of luck if they are unable to help me. Once again, the difference is in the attitude. I refuse to support companies who are so hostile to me.
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>>52295251
If you enjoy getting serviced at a car dealer, that's great. The problem is when only a "properly registered" mechanic has special permission from the manufacturer to look into the car. If this is the case, then I cannot get an independent third party to give me their assessment because that independent third party doesn't have permission from the manufacturer to look into the car.
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