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sick to think these are the people who create software today

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sick to think these are the people who create software today. it's really sad, if not pathetic.

http://youtu.be/e4zZOHN56A8
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They're high-schoolers; this isn't really a problem yet. They'll get run through the filter when they're older and all the non-Asians will be removed.
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>>45461039
>That fucking neckbeard dressed like some cartoon girl.
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>>45462186
he has no beard... eat more carrots.
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>God damn these kids
>They aint even wear fedoras walkin to work!

Heard it before, grandpa.

>the youth are violating the social standards i grew up with!
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>>45462207
You don't need a beard to be a neckbeard :^)
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>>45461039

who cares?

seriously, at one point you too were a loser wearing a metallica shirt and beanie writing webpages
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>>45461039
Behold...
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>>45462251
the guy on their team at the end is the best
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>waaah kids dye their hair these days and wear skinny jeans
>how dare they
>I won't stand for this!
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>>45462251
>pleb panel
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>>45462283
Fuck off.
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>>45462298
Yeah, but she'd feel good sitting on that dick, though. Do a little FizzBuzz for you. Nadella would like a bitch like her.
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>>45462312

>getting butthurt that you're an adult now and not the hip young kid you used to be
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>>45462268
Here he is...
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>>45462382
He's the living weeb of /g/.
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>>45462283

I think the joke is in the second post

Where the fucking knuckledraggers are manually printing every number line by line.
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>>45462382
i have to give it to him that he has the balls to go to a public event wearing that though

gotta follow your dreams~
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>>45461378
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>>45462382
As someone who grew up in a household of all military family, I will never stop loving the absurdity of the tech industry. Reminds me of a conference I went to where they were talking about appropriate dress code and my discussion leader was telling us how to slip S&M gear into our daily wardrobe.
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>>45463401
True. I feel bad for making dumb jokes to strangers I'll never see again years after the fact and that fucker can do that and still feel good about himself.
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>>45462250
That's where you're wrong, hoboxit.
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>>45463401
>>45463484
Since when does being autistic mean you have balls?
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>>45462368LEL
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Why do so many girls in programming dye their hair?
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why do all these kids dress up like they're on a comic / animu convention?
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>>45463522
Because us programmers are quirky xD
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>>45461378
How are people like this in a coding competition? Fucking hilarious.
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>>45463518
aposematism, look it up
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>>45462251

I Have No Idea What I'm Doing
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>>45463649
>aposematism
You cheeky fucker.
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>>45463522

> all

There is literally just one of them.
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oh boy.. here we go
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>>45463723
>high school kid writes production ready enterprise java
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>>45463721
>just one of them

>>45461039
penguin(?) hat, goggles which do nothing
>>45462251
'carnival' mask, ribbon shit on hands and wrists
wig/dyed hair
>>45462382
see above again
I hope gentoo notices me uguu~~ neackbear

so without even watching that video, I already spotted 4 people wearing things that nobody in their right mind would wear in public, let alone at work
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>>45461039
It's a highschool coding competition bruh. I see nothing wrong with it. Same ratio of 100 guys : 2 girls (the autist girls who didn't fit in with any other girls) as I had in highschool.
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>>45463723
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>>45463806
Well, it does say Lockheed Martin tho...
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>>45462382
If they're supposed to be megucas then the guy did the best job.
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>>45463806
I was fucking better when I was in a high school than this >>45461378 fucking shit. There were no competition that I heard of.

That's just bullshit.
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>>45463600
How are people in a coding competition? Fucking hilarious.
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>>45463896
im a high school dropout and im better than that
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>>45463934
We need a proof.
Write something that prints a square made from the asterisks.

For example:

f(3):
***
* *
***


f(5):
*****
* *
* *
* *
*****


Can you do that?
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>>45463896
CS courses should teach principles instead of concepts. You will never implement a linked list after graduation, but everyone will hate you for your shit code.
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>>45461039
Seriously anime autists are the worst autists.
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>>45463968
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
void f3() {
cout << "***" << endl;
cout << "* *" << endl;
cout << "***" << endl;
}
void f(5) {
cout << "*****" << endl;
cout << "* *" << endl;
cout << "* *" << endl;
cout << "* *" << endl;
cout << "*****" << endl;
}
void main() {
f3();
f5();
}

fucking easy
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>>45463972
Why are you talking about CS, I didn't even go to that.
How can someone implement a linked list bad? It's a real question.
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>>45462186
and you're surprise... why?
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>>45464019
>using namespace std;

>void main() {

Nice trolling details.
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>>45464021
>How can someone implement a linked list bad?
Apparently you can fuck up so bad you have cycles in the list.
According to some HR drones.
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>>45464039
thx. I try to be at /g/ level.
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>>45464019
:^)
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>>45464021
Linking to null, mislinking, cyclic linking, etc.
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>>45462368
I'm 18.
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>>45464063
>being a professional NEET
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>>45461039
>java java development kit
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>>45462250

maybe one day you can graduate to a shithead wearing radiohead t-shirts and writing webpages, like moi
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>>45464107
>tfw 18 and second year of cs
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>>45464242
I was going to take cs, but they use Java and C++.
I'm switching to math or something.
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>>45464257

inb4 300k starting etc.
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>>45463518
because there cringe worthy.
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>>45464299
I don't care about getting a job. I just want to learn.
I'm not sure college is the best place for this.
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>>45461039

There is literally no point in learning how to program once you're over 20. Many of these kids have probably been doing it forever and you will never be as good as them.
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>>45464351
I guaranty it's worth it. They aren't supposed to teach you every languages. in computer science, they give you the tools to learn whatever you want. They teach you the basis and concepts with mainstream languages like java, C++, because that's what companies are seeking.
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>>45464354
>tfw programming since I was 14 with fun shit
>tfw pushed the shitty tools I had to the fucking limit and learned about limitations
>tfw learned the basics of boolean values in a cool way
>tfw this was all from a fucking video game
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>>45464399
I already know the basics.
I'd really rather teach myself with books like I've been doing.
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>>45463968
I'm the highschool dropout and i made something that could do that in ncurses once, also made it resize itself accordingly to the window just for the sake of doing it.
im not gonna make another one just to prove myself to some kid online, though.
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>>45464351
>>45464399

>guaranty

Anyway....

Stay in college if you want to learn, it works, it's better. Because you get exposed to shit you wouldn't otherwise, network with people that are actually achieving things.
The only downside to college is that it's expensive.

Also saying that you want to learn but that 'you're not in it for the job' is a bit ignorant imo.

Working environments are where people are achieving things with programming. If you can't even be bothered to solve the basic problems, how can you expect to do anything worthwhile.
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>>45463723
Why is he passing + ""?

I don't know what i presume is java. But surely that can't be right.

I also find it amazing they didn't teach them about arrays.

On top of that how much of a troll is this cameraman? Clearly he's the true hero here. Trying to scare away anyone competent.
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>>45464427
>Also saying that you want to learn but that 'you're not in it for the job' is a bit ignorant imo.
How?

>Working environments are where people are achieving things with programming. If you can't even be bothered to solve the basic problems, how can you expect to do anything worthwhile.
You don't need a job to achieve things with programming.
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>>45464441

Ignorant in the sense that you'll be avoiding technologies and methodologies just because they're not muh engima machine.
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>>45464354
Maybe if you're a dumdum. Most of programming changes (best practices, structures, API's). Sure you're at a disadvantage to be the best in the world but just taking a glance at people who have been "programming" since they were kids they're certainly not very good.

Find good renowned people in the industry you like and follow everything they do while thinking critically about it. If you have any questions ask them or other people.
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>>45464354
I know someone my grandfather's age who got into programming when he was thirty. keep your head up. people get started late, but it doesn't mean the material increases beyond the gap between you and a younger m8.
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>>45464354
You'll likely not be programming anything important, but learning basic programming skills is extremely useful.
I learned to program at 24 and I just write dumb scripts to do things I find useful. Shit that's so specific that no program exists already that does that. And is probably useful to no-one else.
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>>45464505
>You'll likely not be programming anything important

are you basing this on his age?
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>>45464505

This granular problem-specific programming is why everyone should know it, and it should be taught in schools, with computing being as prolific as it is.

This is also why you can find your niche as a professional programmer practically anyhwere.
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>>45464456
>Ignorant in the sense that you'll be avoiding technologies and methodologies just because they're not muh engima machine.
I don't care about proprietary shit.
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>Not a single autistic neckbeard with a Thinkpad

Nothing good was ever made at codequest confirmed.
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>>45464486
I am a dumdum m8
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>>45464570
Well you were just not given the right tools for the job then.

It's not about age. If you weren't a dumdum you might have seen that. Sorry m8 :/
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>>45461378
Idk how this board lets itself get trolled by the hype from videos like this or the little autistic kid "who dreams in code"
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>>45464602
Because they see kids like that get famous or even jobs and they're jealous because they are "real" programmers who code in C on a thinkpad
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>>45464533
Well I'm basing it on what I've been doing with the programming skills I gave myself.
The shit I wrote so far is like:
A program to manage a game bot (not actually a bot itself, it just turns it on and off)
A script to grab data from a retail website so I can turn the product data into a spreadsheet
A program that tells me when I'm allowed to masturbate
A bunch of scripts to download crap from various audio hosting sites.

It's a bunch of simple crap that no-one but me cares about.
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>>45464593
>tfw IT monkey for life
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>>45464631
lol
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>>45464614
Well, that's what happens when you decide to worship Stallman and coding as a 'hobby'
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>>45464631
>A program that tells me when I'm allowed to masturbate

Post it.
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>>45463968
Python:
n = input('n?')
closing_string = ''
for i in range(n):
closing_string += '*'

middle_string = '*'
for i in range(n-2):
middle_string += ' '
middle_string += '*'

print closing_string
for i in range(2,n):
print middle_string
print closing_string
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>>45464662
$ yes now
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>>45464438
I don't code in Java but my guess is that println takes a String parameter. So they can't simply pass a number. Adding a number with "" produces a new String, which then gets printed
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>>45464696
There's a toString.
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>>45464708
not nullsafe enough
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>>45464723
int
s are not nullable.
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>>45463968
java master race
    static void f(int n) {

int j;
for(int i = 0; i < n; ++i) {

if (i == 0 || i == n-1) {
j = n;
while(j-- > 0) {
System.out.print("*");
}
System.out.print("\n");
continue;
}

j = n-2;
System.out.print("*");
while(j-- > 0) {
System.out.print(" ");
}
System.out.print("*\n");
}
}
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>>45464696
>>45464723
http://stackoverflow.com/a/4105406
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>>45464602
Hello, ex-CodeQuester! We're glad you could join us!! :0D
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>>45461440
I'm latin. Can I count in the remove list?
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Plot twist: They actually made the kids make code to drop bombs on afghan children.
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>>45464696

No. println can print all primitives and calls the toString method on objects passed in.

The guy is just a moron.

Of course, putting "" after numbers isn't the big problem. The big problem is having variables called num1-num10 and printing them all individually rather than having an array and a loop.
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>>45464662
Uh okay.
Stuff you should know:
It's in java.
It was designed to play sound files, but I turned that into a setting and it's currently off because I got tired of it.

To use it, just compile, then run it in a CLI using java.
Here's notavirus.zip:
http://pastebin.com/xJvzyRdG
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>>45462250
3rd year of IT engineering who writes webpages reporting in.
I hate coding, I'm in it just to become an engineer and be valued more than all of the worthless american CS graduates.
>feels good man
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>>45464708
It's much faster and more intuitive to just write 5+"" then bother with Integer.toString etc. When you're in a competition, you should write in a manner that's quick, disregarding code style, error checking, readability, everything.
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>>45464825
>When you're in a competition
Depends on the ruleset entirely.
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>>45463968
module.exports = function sq(w, h)
{
if(!w || isNaN(Number(w)))
{
throw new TypeError("fn sq() expects Number[, Number] or some shit who the fuck knows it's ducktyping ain't gotta explain shit");
}
if(!h || isNaN(Number(h)))
{
h = w;
}
for(var y = 0; y < h; y++)
{
var s = "";
for(var x = 0; x < w; x++)
{
if(y == 0 ||
y == h - 1 ||
x == 0 ||
x == w - 1
) {
s = s + "*";
} else
{
s = s + " ";
}
}
console.log(s);
}
}

can't post the unit tests, would make the post too long, but it works
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>>45464764
>continuing to be this mad

are you OP?
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>>45464804
reading it gave me a stiffy
>>45464835
h and w is always the same
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>not waking up at 5:30 am to program for an hour before school

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBXZWB_dNsw
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>>45464825
Yeah, because writing something like
System.out.println(numR + "  *  "); 
System.out.println(numB + " + x");
System.out.println(numC + " ");
System.out.println(numD + "");
System.out.println(numH + "");
System.out.println(num5 + "");
System.out.println(num2 + "");
System.out.println(num3 + "");
System.out.println(num1 + "");
System.out.println(num5 + "");
System.out.println(num6 + "");
System.out.println(num7 + "");
System.out.println(num8 + "");
System.out.println(num9 + "");
System.out.println(num10 + "");
is the fastest way to solve any problem.
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>>45464872
i also add prints for variables int he middle of functions when im debugging or still writing

you sure he was done with the problem?
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>>45464880
That ordering though. No sensible person would debug like that. Your output requires line counting.
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This is the resulf ot replacing C/FORTRAN/PASCAL with Python on Introduction to Programming classes
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>>45464837
>assuming i'm mad
>assuming i kode
>assuming i c-code
>assuming i fucking /g/
>assuming i dont /b/
>thinking i'll tell you who i am
X0 D
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>>45464825

How the hell is that more intuitive? It is creating an empty string and the appending an integer to it, while toString converts an integer to a string. Same effect, but toString is far more intuitive. It is not any faster to use that method snd requires thinking about the problem strangely. I can only assume he did it in such a roundabout way because he doesn't know about the toString method.

Besides, he certainly isn't worried at all about efficient use of his time because
A. The integer to string conversion is unnecessary, and
B. He needlessly wrote out ten variable declarations and print statements rather than one array and for loop.
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>>45464880
I'm also doing that debugging, but look at the order.
num5
is printed two times.
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>>45464880
>>45464901 (Me)
Also,
num4
isn't printed at all.
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>>45464855
One thing I want it to do in the long term is to have the lines actually read out by a female voice, rather than have it be just text. That's why you can just edit the text files- so there can be two folders text and audio, and have them match. Be careful when compiling, the text file folder need to be in the same folder that it's being executed in.

It's functional, but you may have to ask it several times to get the right answer. Never fixed that.
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>>45464867
That is a sorry excuse for a man. What is that thing. is it data from star trek. autism isnt impressive enoguh
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>>45464918
actually i think he is a man. a great one. sorry for the hate g/ents
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>>45464880
System.out.println(
numR + " * \n"
+ numB + " + x\n"
+ numC + " \n"
+ numD + "\n"
+ numH + "\n"
+ num5 + "\n"
+ num2 + "\n"
+ num3 + "\n"
+ num1 + "\n"
+ num5 + "\n"
+ num6 + "\n"
+ num7 + "\n"
+ num8 + "\n"
+ num9 + "\n"
+ num10 + "\n"
);
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>>45464895
>trying this hard
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>>45464939
>printing linebreaks for println
that shit will give you double lines mang
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>>45464939
for(int i: array_of_ints_that_retard_shouldve_made_instead)
System.out.println(i);
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>>45461039
>1:23
>MLP hat
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>>45461440
Dude, most of us were better at 8 than they are in highschool. Please let that sink in for a bit.
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>>45464969
>MLP hat
All I see is a penguin. Thought it was a Tux thing.
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>>45464967
We were talking about printf debugging.
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>>45465048
>printf debugging
>not having a real debugger
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>>45465071

Read the thread.
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>>45465081
I did. I just don't like printf debugging.
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>>45464969
took me a second to realize you were calling a fedora a MLP hat
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>>45464079
>>45464055
How is having cycles in the linked list a bad thing?
How is linking to null as an indicator there's no next or previous a bad thing?
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Lets see more of the "office".

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-15-coolest-startup-offices-weve-ever-seen-2013-1?op=1
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>>45465220
They all scream "we're too cheap to give our employees actual offices despite the fact that every single study on office layout says private offices are vastly superior to open plan."
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>>45463968
// g++ -std=c++11 -O3 -o square main.cpp

#include <iostream>
#include <string>

using namespace std;

int main(int argc, char* argv[])
{
int size = 3;
if (argc >= 2) size = std::stoi(argv[1]);

for (int height = 0; height < size; height++) {
for (int width = 0; width < size; width++) {
if (width == 0 || width == size-1 ||
height == 0 || height == size-1) {
cout << "*";
} else {
cout << " ";
}
}
cout << endl;
}

return 0;
}


repost because I left in headers from another project.
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The Asians are the only respectable ones there.
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>>45462251
Women are the future of programming :)
>>
>Corporate "Hackathon"
>show us hundreds of working prototype for free
>we give you free pizza
>winner gets $5,000 if they sign over all IP rights
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>>45465291
Weird because these start ups usually pay their programmers well although with long hours.
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>>45465291
Dude, my old company moved us from a space with cubes to this kindergarten "open plan" office, and it was a complete cluster-fuck. People reverted to Jr High social skills and nothing was ever accomplished. People would work remotely or find private rooms at any chance they had because _nothing_ was getting done in the office. They pushed this culture so hard but started producing nothing but shit because nobody worked to the best of their abilities. If I own an office ever, people will have walls and it will smell like nag champa.
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>>45461039
It's a fucking highschool competition.

It's like the place you dont look for professional coders. That's where you get people motivated about becoming good programmers.
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>>45463723

Jesus christ how disgusting
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>>45464354

>Started programming at 21
>about to be 25 in less than a month

I am not expert but I am understanding it better than I did when I was younger.
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Are you really upset that he's wearing a funny hat, OP?
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>>45464747
pretty
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>>45465220
Do people actually do any work there?
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>>45466031
The /g/ threads mocking startups should tell you all you need to know.

"/g/ works at a startup"
>Our order of beanbags and nerf guns is late!
>>
1:25
I spot the fedora.
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>>45465339
>-std=c++11
What extra functionality did you need that wasn't in c89 for this?
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>>45463968
def f(n):
print "*" * n
for x in range(0, n):
print "*" + (" " * (n - 2)) + "*"
print "*" * n


f(3)
f(5)


Python master race.

Wait, are we supposed to be terrible on purpose?
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>>45463723
>>45463723
>>45467401
Help this poor bastard.
>>
>>45463723
>HelloWorld.java

Boy oh fucking boy
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>>45463723
>new averaging system
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>>45464897
Integer.parseInt converts an integer to a string IIRC
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>>45468496
>>
Js, probably a better way to do it but here

function printSq(size){
var str = '';

for(var i=0;i<size;i++){
if(i===0 || i===size-1){
for(var j=0;j<size;j++){
str += '*';
}
str+= '\n';
}
else{
for(var j=0;j<size;j++){
if(j===size-1 || j===0){
str += '*';
}
else{
str += ' ';
}
}
str += '\n';
}
}
console.log(str);
return 0;
}
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>>45461378
My first thought >>45463423
>>
Fuck programming. I'm gonna stay a networking monkey.
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>>45464354
Boy, that is not true. I only wrote a cretin-tier LAMP bash.org clone when I was 17 years old, and started seriously writing code when I was 22. I'm 25 now, and I've been working for a year full-time as a software dev.

>protip: most people write shit-tier code and have no elegant solutions, because they don't have a passion for their job
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i hate this type of shit. this isnt what being a programmer is like.

this is like those retards who come into classrooms and show clips of pixar movies and say "LOL DONT U WANNA BE A SOFTWARE ENGINEER???".

my sister's elementary school got hit by google a few months ago for the "madewithcode" thing. they had them design bracelets with a GUI and then acted like THAT was coding. i almost killed myself
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>>45461039
That penguin hat is fucking epic, I don't understand the glasses tho.
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>>45469300
I'd hate that.
>play with all the cool stuff, but never be able to do anything useful on your own
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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