My girlfriend wants to buy a 13 inch Macbook Air and I'm saying it's not worth the money but she doesn't believe me
What could you recommend with the same/similar specs for cheaper?
We share our money at the moment, so it's in my financial best interest to make this a good purchase
Let the dumb bitch buy it.
If you're not a mac user you can at least pull the "sorry hun, I don't use mac :3" line when she fucks it up and it starts breaking.
>tfw parents, girlfriend and siblings all got mac during these last years
>tfw they don't bug me to fix their shit anymore because I've just repeated that line
With all due respect I'm just looking for a cheap decent laptop recommendation similar to what she wants
Then tell her you aren't comfortable spending so much on a laptop. Do the research yourself and find something that's comparable but cheaper. Just a heads up though, manufacturers love charging out the ass for ultrabooks. An easy compromise might just be the base 11 inch model of the MBA.
I recommend not worrying about the specs. Walk into a retailer on a slow day and spend 10 minutes actually using the laptops there. Open a YouTube video, type a few words, etc. Test drive shit before blindly throwing money at it.
That's my advice to her. She's not a laptop salesperson. You're not either. Fucking I'm not. This is what we do when we aren't masters of a commercial market. We peruse the items available and let our experiences guide us, like test driving a car or putting a new purse on your arm and looking in the mirror.
Get a load of these virgins. I bet they think they're "redpilled"
Go for it.
The Macbook Air is actually pretty good for the price.
Also, cicks love shiny things, and if she doesn't get one, she'll think of you every time she sees her nonshiny dell, or whatever
The MacBook air isn't really that bad.
>Decent build quality
>long battery life
>Idiot-proof OSX. Won't have to worry about troubleshooting her computer because of malware.
Get a load of this faggot
He lets his cat eat all is catfood then pretends like being pussywhipped is a good thing
Your GF is obviously a shallow whore that cares solely about appearances than actual practicality. But if she's going to get an overpriced ultrabook, she may well get one that doesn't look like it's designed for fags.
Let her buy it. I have one and love it
If she isn't a gayman then it most likely would fit all her needs for many years to come.
Most girls I know with macbooks have been using the same one for 5+ years.
Good build quality rather than have her whining about muh viruses, muh slow downs, muh keys falling off then having to buy her a new one after a year or two
It's really not hard to get a laptop to a five year service life. Especially for "isn't gayman." SSD + 8GB DDR3 on a $500 laptop is a scream machine.
Let's get real: those girls with Macbooks are happiest for not having had to know about upgrading. That's perfectly respectable but it's not a feather in Apple's cap. It's a market segment.
>>rather than have her whining about muh viruses, muh slow downs
Having a crippled shit OS with no functionality is not a positive unless she's literally retarded.
In which case all she needs is a basic *buntu with a web browser and basic office suite.
>>muh keys falling off
>comparing $900 laptops to $200 laptops
Why are all macfags universally retarded?
Just let her get the macbook you loser.
Face it, this is more about your autistic consumer electronics preferences then it is anything to do with finances.
>sharing money with girlfriend
Explain to her what a massive cunt, thief, deadbeat dad, and asshole Steve Jobs was, and how ethically bankrupt Apple is as a company, and explain why you have a moral objection to owning Apple products.
and then explain to her what a massive cunt, theif, and asshole Bill Gates was, and how ethically bankrupt Microsoft is as a company, and explain why you have a moral objection to owning Microsoft products. And then install debian on her new thinkpad.
>explain to her what a massive cunt, theif, and asshole Bill Gates was
and the explain to her what a massive cunt, thief, and asshole lennart poettering is, and how ethically bankrupt systemd supporters are, and explain why you have a moral objection to using any systemd distros. And then wipe debian and install gentoo on her new thinkpad.
and the explain to her what a massive cunt, thief, and asshole linus torvalds is, and how ethically bankrupt linux users are, and explain why you have a moral objection to using any linux distro. And then wipe gentoo and install Gnu/herd on her new thinkpad.
and the explain to her what a massive cunt, thief, and asshole Richard Stallman is, and how ethically bankrupt the FSF is, and explain why you have a moral objection to using any FSF endorsed software. And then wipe gnu/herd and install OpenBSD on her new thinkpad.
Operating Systems are so shitty because once you reach 50+ million lines of code, everybody stops giving a shit because everything "mostly works for day to day tasks".
This applies to all operating systems and is the reason why Windows still has registry shit, Linux still has horrid 1990's UIs, and why OS X still has a 70's filesystem and is literally a hackjob of 5+ different OSes held together with gum and emulation layers.
and then explain to her what a massive cunt, thief, and asshole Theo de Raadt is, and how ethically bankrupt the BSD is, and explain why you have a moral objection to using any software created by autists. And then wipe OpenBSD and install Plan9 on her new thinkpad.
>We share our money at the moment, so it's in my financial best interest to make this a good purchase.
You're so fucked OP, you have no fucking idea how fucked you are, next you'll be posting on /o/ claiming your gf wants to buy a mercedes or a hummer.
gl OP, gl.
>Linux still has horrid 1990's UIs
Linux doesn't have 1990s UI you fucking tard. Please don't tell me you judge linux UIs off of desktop threads. GNOME and Unity are better than Aqua and whatever the shit Windows uses.
You're an ignorant retard that has no clue what he's talking about. ALSO THE DE ISN"T EVEN PART OF THE FUCKING KERNEL YOU DIPSHIT
Let he buy it, then delete some system files after a month or two. Repeat as often as necessary until she's convinced it's shit and lets you decide on the next laptop to buy.
Ensure that you not tell her any problems you have with your personal computer during this period, and offer to let her use your computer any time hers breaks.
She's probably a gullible retard if she wants a mac to begin with, so it should be easy to train her to hate macs in the same way.
I have a copy pasta 4u:
i see you've confused the kernel with the userspace. the beauty of linux is that a desktop environment can be gui or cli to the users liking. on top of that, applications come in many different shapes and sizes for different uses and features. if you don't like what comes as default with your favorite distribution you can install something else or write your own.
Bro, I'm talking about actual Operating Systems. Why are you talking about desktop environments? Also HFS+ was introduced in 1998 and is lodes better than NTFS. Though ext4 is better than both
>What could you recommend with the same/similar specs for cheaper?
MBA? There aren't any. The MBA is $899, any cheaper than that and you are getting into shit-tier overheating HP shit, that your GF will resent you for in 3 months.
For ~$899 you will get
>one the best battery life on the market
>god tier touchpad
>durable build quality
>apple dick sucking support
If you have a anti-Apple hate boner, the only laptops I would recommend cost MORE than the MBA.
Get an ASUS Zenbook, OP. I used one for school for the past few years and it has the build quality and aesthetics of a macbook.
Also, if she really wants a macbook air just put away your apple hate boner and let her buy it, they're good computers
>not getting an XPS 11,12, or 13
>aluminum, magnesium, and carbon fiber build making it stronger and lighter than fagbook
>much brighter screen
Why don't you fucking shut your whore mouth and mind your own fucking business you meddling cunt?? A grown fucking adult shouldn't be hassled about what the fuck they do their own fucking money
>if its her money shes spending then ignore her
>if its your money shes spending then dump the stupid cunt
macbook aire specs
>1.4 ghz dual core i5
>HD 5000 graphics (AMD APU's are better)
>4gigs of RAM (lol)
>128gb PCIe flash SSD (interesting but since its apple the hardware would be Chinese garbage that will brick after 3-5 overwrites)
gets even better
>256gb PCIe SSD instead
200 hundred fucking dollars to add 128gigs to the storage of a fucking PCI SSD?
punch your girlfriend in the cunt for being this dumb you can literally find an Acer laptop on clearance sale with better specs than this for like 500-600$
Found that laptop for you OP
literally took me 10 seconds
>full 1080p HD screen
>i5 1.7 Ghz base clock (faster cpu than the macbook)
>8GB of SDRAM (2x the amount of the macbook)
> a full 1 terabyte HDD (metric fucktons of music and video storage)
>Nvidia GTX 840m GPU (you can play fucking videogames on this bitch and at high settings too!!!)
this fucker is so amazing im thinking about buying one my self the only drawback is that it has no SSD but it has the SSD expansion back built in so all you have to do is buy a 2.5"
form factor SSD online and then open the back with a screw driver and plug that bitch in and then do a clean operating system install on the SSD
way better computer than the faggotbook and battery will drain faster but you can buy a giant aftermarket battery to fix that and its a heavier laptop but fuck man its only 6-7 pounds ifs thats too much for your whore girlfriend then she needs to work out
OPs problem has nothing to do with technology, specs, value or efficiency. it's purely psychological.
you may be confused because you consider the mba to be a computer and think it's "good" for a computer to have all these properties but it's not actually relevant in the least. you might as well judge the worth of a banana by the friction coefficient of its peel.
what OP wants is to manipulate the will of another human being in a certain kind of environment and certainly that CAN be done however it will require something other than datasheets.
Ok I get it the fact that macbooks are shit doesn't matter because they are sleek looking and a status symbol hence why females with tiny peanut brains find them desirable
well in that case the problem is that OP is a betamale faggot that is allowing a hole to spend HIS money and buying a cheaper better performing laptop wont change that
The Vaio Pro 13 is atrocious. Shit clickpad, flimsy and bendy as hell, gets very warm, wifi has terrible reception. There's a mega-thread on the Sony forums on everything that's wrong with it. The screen is nice though.
>be older you
>some how you have a wife
>she asks you to get her a nice audi or bmw
>You: Fuck this cunt I'll just buy her a banged up pontiac grand prix 2001, it gets from point A to point B, hurr durr that's all that matters.
It Comes with a pen and colors :3
Shiny and tablet tooooo
Most of all better specs and better build quality then the airbook
Con: Sucking m$ cock
Why would anybody that respects their wallet spend money on a vaio pro 13 that has a shitty wifi card that can't hold a good internet connection for shit.
>calling me a poorfag
Bitch the computer I'm talking to you on is probably worth more than your monthly wages.
>marrying a women who asks you for a new Audi or BMW instead of bossing up and getting it herself
What kind of basic bitches do you fuck with?
My wife of 2 years makes about 30% more than I do. She has her own shit, I have my own. Our house is split down the middle.
The fuck are you on about?
Nah, tonight we both made a thai salad thing we like, and cuddle up on our couch and watched The Mindy Project.
We both cook and clean.
You have fucked up ideas if you really think that way. Maybe you will understand when you get older, jr.
>We share our money at the moment, so it's in my financial best interest to make this a good purchase
Lol. Since you're the one telling her that it's not worth the money I am guessing that you have most of the cash. This is pathetic man. She's your SO, not your daughter.
Not my fault they can't use it the right way.
Use it like a tablet. It isn't that complicated.
"but i need a physical keyboarddd"
They have good looking ones just buy one of those.
>Audi is a rebrand VW sold to idiots who don't know better and BMW is a nazi-mobile. I guess your comparison makes sense
^ some people actually believe this shit
This post will undoubtedly draw ire.
The 13-inch MBA is fine for people who like Mac keyboards, Mac OS, and don't mind having a glossy display. I'm a stickler for Thinkpad keyboards, the Trackpoint, Linux, and matte displays, so I got a T420. But MBA's have good battery life, a reasonable display (1440 x 900), and (provided you don't plan on modifying the internals) pretty solid build quality.
One of the best programmers I've worked with used a MBA for his portable. He had a gaming PC (as well as some home servers running Linux) but the MBA was a fine laptop for work on the road.
The ultraportable market is still kind of small for some reason, and Apple's offering isn't bad by any means. In fact, I think the MBA is their most sanely priced computer right now.
>We share our money at the moment
This is simply inexcusable though.
>donating BILLIONS of dollars to poor people is propaganda
I don't even care about Windows anymore. I barely even get to write Visual Basic these days. My main work is in charity now, with Melinda. I cleared up a lot of these misconceptions in my AMAs.
enjoy being a housebitch
enjoy being a beta male
enjoy letting my wife wear the pants in the relationship
enjoy wishing I could fuck the postwoman, but I'm such a beta I have no balls to approach her
there I fixed it
>1/2 the price of macshit
>more than double the CPU power
>8X+ the storage
>far higher resolution
I came from a family like this. I do not recommend it. Women are not happy making less than their husband, no matter what anyone tells you.
> Using panel data from the National Survey
of Families and Households, we find that the couples where the wife earns more than the husband
report being less happy, report greater strife in their marriage, and are ultimately more likely to
get a divorce.
How is this for a super portable laptop that I'd just use for note taking, paper writing, web browsing, and occasional streaming?
Sorry I know this isn't right thread but I really need more advice before I go dropping money.
How does this look for a gaming pc for around 500? I want to keep it matx for moving around.
>too retarded to even figure out how to use simple Amazon filters
Not even surprised.
Why are you asking /g/ about this? All they care about is ghz or ram. They'll happily buy some shitty consumer grade HP or Dell shit as long as it has more ram or some shit so they can say it has better "specs" than a mac while ignoring everything else.
>complains about people recommending consumer grade laptops
>recommends consumer grade macshit
this might be the the single most nonsensical post in the whole thread
are you a fucking retard?
by clicking 1920X1080 99% of the laptops jump to above 900$ range.
Some even going up to 2000$+
some of the fucking screens are 18.4 inches
how much autism do you have to have to buy these craps?
Why are you posting in /g/ about this? All you care about is the apple logo on your fagbook. You'll happily buy some shitty consumer grade Air or "Pro" shit as long as it has a fruity badge on the back so you can say it's "better" than a other laptops while ignoring everything else like actual specs.
Here's a pic
Performance is the only thing that matters in a laptop though. Nobody needs anything better than a 1366x768 TN screen. Nobody needs more than 2 hours of battery life. Nobody needs some ultra thin laptop unless you are a weak faggot that can't lift anything heavy. But enjoy your shitty 1.4 ghz dual core with integrated intel graphics shit. I had a 1.4 ghz dual core in 2002. I can't believe fagple is really scamming people with this shit. As long as you have a good perfoming chip and a decent graphics card, your laptop will be able to do anything. Good luck playing games on your fagbook.
If I had a million dollars to spend only on technology I still wouldn't pay for those briefcases you call laptops.
They're way to
cheezy with their crazy multicolor light up keyboards
I wouldn't be caught dead with those laptops in public, I don't want to be seen as an autist
>mattering in the least
Literally the only point of a computer is to play games. You need good perfomance to play the good games. That's why macs are fucking shit and will never be taken seriously by the true gamer community.
>Nobody needs anything better than a 1366x768 TN screen
>Nobody needs more than 2 hours of battery life
>Nobody needs some ultra thin laptop
if people like you ran the tech industry, technology would just stay the same forever.
But then again, you're just saying this cause you were born in a time where these things were the norm.
If you were alive in 2054 you'd be saying no body needs more than 4k resolutions, a 1mm thick laptop isn't necessary, etc., etc.
Guide to understanding the Applesheep mindset:
Pixel density and resolution only matters until you mention another laptop has better of both.
Thinness only matters until you mention another laptop is thinner.
Weight only matters until you mention another laptop weighs less.
Battery life only matters until you mention other laptops that get twice the battery life for 0.6lb more.
Value only matters until you mention a laptop that does the same function for a lower price.
Being a premium product at a premium price only matters until you mention a laptop that blows it out of the water at a higher price.
Apple®. Mediocrity in every dimension™.
Guide to understanding the Thinkshill mindset:
If I find something better than the rMBP in 1 category, I can proceed to ignore price and every other factor of a laptop and proceed to shill my product.
Reminder when trying to communicate with mactards:
If something has specs lower than a mac, it's shit.
If something has specs higher than a mac, it's overpowered.
If a mac has specs higher/lower than another mac, it's "having a choice".
Guide to understanding the Appleshill mindset:
If I find something worse than the rMBP in 1 category, I can proceed to ignore price and every other factor of a laptop and proceed to shill my product.
Reminder when trying to communicate with thinkshills
If something has lower specs, wait no rMBP has lower specs than the equivalent Thinkpad
If something has higher specs, it's overpriced, even though it is cheaper.
>Want a ~$400-$800 laptop that is light and fast and gets good battery life
>Looking at compact windows computers to install linux on
>All like $1200-$1400 ultrabooks
>MBA 11 is $800
>Ended up buying a chromebook with 4gb ram (acer 720) and putting ubuntu-mate on it
The MBA is a fine laptop for what it is. It is kinda expensive, but the windows alternatives cost more money and are shittier.
>we share our money
OP is an actual faggot. Report back though.
>Because you are trying to shill Thinkpads.
>macfag literally retarded
>p-please show me how to use googel
She's sucking your blood
In general, if something is not a mac it
>is too big and heavy, and you are a luddite for wanting that piece of shit
>lacks the right user experience
>is gross nerd shit
Nobody needs anything lighter than 5lbs
Nobody needs battery life greater than 5 hours
Nobody needs a screen better than 1366x768 or 1280x800
Everybody needs to change their RAM
Everybody needs an ethernet port
Everybody needs a VGA output
(if tablet shill) Everybody needs pen input
If you agree with all of these statements, I would recommend buying a used Thinkpad from a /g/ approved ebay dealer, or perhaps directly from someone in th Daily Thinkpad Thread!
Something doesn't need to be better in every aspect for it to be better than macshit. For example, the Thinkpad x240 gets 20 hours of battery life, over twice that than the macshit, with the external battery back. Therefore, it is better than the macshit.
>nobody needs to do any actual work
>everybody needs only facebook
If you agree with all of these statements, I would recommend buying a Macbook from Apple, or perhaps a used one directly from someone in the Daily Apple Thread!
>make bullshit with no factual basis
>lel prov me rong guise!
>lel u cant!
>aple wins again!
>battery is difficult to replace
>li-polymer block instead of standard 18650s
No, it's shit that will expire in four years.
Maybe that's fine if you're some manchild that always wants the latest specs, but some of us give a shit about the environment and taxes and would rather replace tiny batteries every five years than buy a whole new laptop from a law breaking company every six months.
creating things that matter (literature, quarterly profit reports, programs)
the trackpoint makes frequent text selection and occasional GUI use during keyboard-heavy activities a breeze, and the hardware has excellent linux and BSD support if you need a UNIX-like and don't like VMs (the processor has intel VT-D though). newer models also get stellar battery life.
no, don't mention OS X. it has less than half the software support of windows and worse performance and a greater effort:results ratio than linux when it comes to work related posixy shit (nooo you have to install and configure brew but wait the package's dependencies changed now open vim and...).
macs are streamlined for consumer use
lots of animations and gestures that only shine while idly browsing facebook and grabbing photos off a digital camera
Check off your needs on the left. Read reviews for the best matches.
I can't believe /g/ doesn't care
If you were to buy a mac you should at least buy a used one instead of funding apple's conspicuous consumption, tax evasion, and workers rights violations
Never, ever, ever buy new electronics. They're awful and the companies that make them don't deserve your money.
And when you buy used, buy something you can use for the duration of its true useful life instead of the useful life of its battery
the best laptop? Samsung NP350V5C-S09IN
you're welcome anon
Literally I all checked was 13-13.9 inches, 1920x1080 and above, and 6+ hours of battery life. All of these options (excluding botnetbooks) are either more expensive or moderately cheaper than the rMBP and look like complete shit compared to it.
>we share our money
>someone that you aren't even legally related to
>>sort by best user reviews
>We share our money
The only purposes a shared account is used for is shared expenses: rent, insurance, car costs, food, etc.
So unless you get to use the laptop ~50% of the time, tell her to pay it out of her own pocket/ask it for christmas.
>the trackpoint makes frequent text selection and occasional GUI use during keyboard-heavy activities a breeze
Do the trackpads ever get any "updates"?
I wouldn't like to buy one and then end up needing to buy another one a year later.
mac book air has merits, not that horrible overpriced and you can get good deals on them, good cpu, great hard drive speeds, amazing battery life, super light which is a plus for a female.....
its like a $2,500 macbook pro which comes with a shitty ass geforce 750....
OP.. jesus christ man.. you're never going to get pussy like that. She's gonna hold out on you out of spite.
Give the bitch something shiny, and save yourself the pain of blueballs. Make that hoe pay for the Mac by way of sex, bro.
You kids will never learn how relationships work... Pussy is expensive, you gotta' pay.
You and I both know the Mac isn't worth it, but neither is pussy, so if you really want some, just shell out and get it.