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Allowed: DOS/Windows 3.x/9x/NT/2000, Amiga
Allowed, but discouraged: Pre-OS X Macs
Not allowed: OS X Macs, Windows XP
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>>42903384
I didn't even know 620MB hard disks existed in 1988.
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>>42903384
OP: Is/A/Fag
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>>42903209

Use this thread instead.
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>>42903542
That thread is pretty much /b/-tier.
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HP machines used to be funny proprietary crap; they needed their own special OEM DOS and everything, plus a mouse that didn't follow the MS standard.
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>>42903498
>dat gas plasma display
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I've been thinking of buying some old hardware, rigging it up to a web interface and letting /g/ play with it, any suggestions as to what I could get? I wanna keep the price low, I don't wanna spend more than a few hundred bucks, but I'd be glad to own some old machines so the price could be flexible. I'm an ausfag, so I have trouble finding this stuff.
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>>42903711
How 'old' are we talking? You can go find a Pentium 2 in your local recycler or landfill, ditto for a 386 machine if you look hard enough. No need to spend hundreds of dollars unless you are looking for an original IBM PC with the works.
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Anyone have any of these?

Byte Magazine, July 1988 Issue
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>>42903769
Byte was once the royalty of computer publications, but it declined in the 90s and went under due to the rise of more specialized magazines like Computer Gaming World.
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>>42903384
>All PCs
How about Z80 based CP/M systems with 8" floppy drives connected to a VDT, that retro enough for you?

Pic related, IEEE696 bus system I used to own.
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>>42903745
>Anonymous
I'm talking 60's to pre windows machines. Rare stuff that most people wouldn't have a chance to actually use. Not just a few Win98 boxes, might as well just use a virtual machine for that.
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Found MacGolf on floppy
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>>42903792
Then you'll have to do some research if you want to rig it up on a web interface. You're looking at an Intel 8086 and older.
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>>42903788
Whoops, actually that's *close* to what I used to have, but not exactly.
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>>42903786
It was fun to read though. This magazine is older than me but I find so much interest in it for some reason.
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>>42903384
They were still selling new 286 PCs until 1993 or something.
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>>42903855
Yeh once Windows 3.1 got big, 16-bit machines were totally obsolete since they couldn't run multimedia stuff.
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>>42903829
Eh, if I could get a serial connection to it, or just replace the keyboard with a dummy that speaks in serial then pointed a webcam at the screen I'd be fine. I could get any machine rigged up to the web, I'm just trying to work out if there's any specific machines I should be looking for.
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>>42903881
Day of the Tentacle and those other CD-ROM talkie games from the early 90s run on 286s.
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>>42903957
Those aren't multimedia though. They just use their own proprietary sound format and lack any of the other features associated with multimedia software.
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>>42903881
>>42903855
>1993
How long did it take for PeeCees to catch up with Macs and Amigas all of which could do that shit when it was still the 80s.
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>>42904030
I don't recall that 80s Macs had multimedia capability. They were just monochrome shitboxes.
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>>42904075

Well the Mac II came in 1987, could display 256 colors, and could play digitized sounds.
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>>42904120
Yeh and it only set you back 7000 bucks.
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>>42904120
>>42904133
High-end IBM PS/2s cost that much and still couldn't do that shit.
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>>42904237
They were designed for a different set of tasks altogether than Macs and Amigas. The latter were more for multimedia and desktop publishing while PCs were for number-crunching and office work. Note that the HP 386 in OP pic is shown running AutoCAD.
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>ride on a time machine 15 years into the future
>nostalgia thread about windows 8 and old facebook
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>>42904326
How very funny that Macfaggots would act as if PCs were inferior because they weren't as good at multimedia when they were merely intended to do different things.
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>>42904381
Multimedia is perceived as cool and hipster while running spreadsheets isn't.
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What is your collection /retro-g/?

Personally I've got:
? A Victor V86p PC-XT clone laptop running DOS 4.0.
? An Amiga 500 rev.6 w/ AmigaOS 1.3.
? An Amstrad CPC 6128 w/ a CP/M 2.2 floppy.
? A PC-9801N.
? A Dell Dimension 433si i486DX2-based PC-AT clone running MS-DOS 6.22 & Windows 3.1.
? An Apple Power-Machintosh 4400 with NO RAM AT ALL (VRAM and cache are missing too), but I got it for free.
? A DEC VT-420 dumb terminal.
? A few Pentium II/III-based PC clones, one being a Dual CPU server machine.
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>>42904120
PCs were built for and used by the business world. They specialized in spreadsheets, mathematical calculations and word processing.

Amigas were toted as the multimedia and musical machine. They caught the attention of producers, video technicians and the like.

Macs were eventually pushed into the niche of desktop publishing because any other feature they had was already inferior compared to the plethora of other computers out there that could do it better.
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>>42904775
- NCR System 3230
- Apple Centris 610
- DFI 386/33
- IBM Aptiva M71
- A 286 clone

Everything else is Pentium 2 or newer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aouTLI8bBrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_6dFgGHdNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps0U_VLGLqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aXsrYI3S6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV2353kXHac
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>>42904828
Note that they didn't have AutoCAD on Macs for years except I think one version.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6slGZQlBxnU

dat C64 still holding up well
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>>42904993
5/5
PRETTY GOOD!
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>>42904120
You could do all that shit on any low-end 8086 PC if you installed a VGA card and sound board.
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>>42905252
Yes but the Mac II could use a whopping 72MB of RAM and had a lot more powerful CPU. You'd have to look at PS/2 Model 80s to find a comparable PC of that period.
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>2014
>needing more than 3.5KB RAM
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>>42905297
The Mac II was part of Louis Agasse's philosophy of building high-end computers that had a guaranteed profit margin of over 50%, but he encountered considerable resistance and was fired in 1990.
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>>42905252
>trying to do 640x480x256 graphics on an 8086
You really, really don't want to try that.
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>>42905252

You could also buy an Amiga for a price lower than the one of the 8086 PC clone, but with capabilities ahead of the Mac II.
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>>42905432
Even 286s struggle with 640x480x256. You need a 386DX to do that at anything more than a snail's pace.
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>>42905467
And the Amiga could handle several megabytes of RAM with no protected mode crap.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4QNxhlCHFo
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>>42905535

Yeah, up to 8 MB of Fast RAM with a 68000 or a 68010, and up to almost 4GB with a 68020 or better.
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>>42905373
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>>42905589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SdGkkp1aq8
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we in color now
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>>42905592
I'm sure there weren't even any 68020/30 Macs that could get near 4GB. But then again, even 16MB was a huge amount of RAM in the late 80s.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS-NYK-8KL0
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COSBY SAYS BUY APPLE
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>>42905748
TI had the COS and couldn't survive making anything but calculators
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>>42905781
>>42905768
>>42905748
>>42905718
>>42905704
>>42905679
>>42905664
This is just one samefag dumping his folder of ads. Look at the post times.
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almost out anyone else have any good retro ads?
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>>42905793
What's wrong with that?
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>>42905793
So what? I like looking at those old ads.
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>>42905793
my apologies for contributing
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>>42905793

Congrats Sherlock! It's a the same guy who is, unlike you, contributing to this thread!
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>>42905808
I mean, you're not supposed to make it obvious that it's all one guy. It's poor posting etiquette.
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>>42905844
Who gives a fuck?
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>>42905793
real life sherlock holmes
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>>42905844
how about contributing then so i'm not the only one posting.
and i'm not OP i just like these old ads and was hoping to get some "new" ones for my collection
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Would be nice if I had any to contribute. I've seen some neat ones, just didn't save them...

>>42905844
wait, the guy who's dumping pics we want is the one who has poor posting etiquette?

what
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>>42905844
>It's poor posting etiquette.
Right!? How dare he contribute so well to this thread. Fucking asshole.
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COMMODORE 64 MASTER RACE
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my last one sorry its a little newer than the rest but still nostalgic and funny
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>>42905793
Holy shit. You should get a job with the FBI. Are you one of the Hardy Boys or what?
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>>42905793
How can one post cause this much butthurt? /g/ should learn to not fall for troll b8 this easily.
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>>42905985

Thanks for all the pics, it's alway nice to see this kind of good old ads. I have a few ones, but they're not all in English. I'll post them anyway.
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>>42905985
holy shit, I remember this

>>42906065
>>42906102
>that smug-ass croc
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>>42906110

yeah, I alway loved the CPC mascot.
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Any good deals on a DOX/9x gaming PC? I've been interested in collecting big-box PC games.

>inb4DOSBox
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>>42903498
beautiful. i would sincerely use this machine.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadra_650

These are still being used in our accounting department. Some fag has been trying to migrate the data on them to a more modern platform (Filemaker, he's a fag) for three years, obviously without success. Also, there is no back up.
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>>42906113
>I'm not old enough to have been around for the C64/Apple/early DOS era so I like this kind of stuff better anyway

Yeah...the fact that you use a trip pretty much demonstrates that you're <19.
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Well this one is in english.
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>>42906163
???

Why can't he migrate the data?
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>>42906216
Because he's retarded, he only has the job be he's the owners son.
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>>42906169
Nice guess, Sherlock. I used to hate tripfags too but I got over myself. Look at this funny case mod!
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>>42906163
cute fact: the ROM in the 650 seems to be the one best supported by Basilisk II

not that I'd use BII for production anything (it's not entirely stable, even less so if you try to give it a network connection)

but you could pretty easily back the machine up and have a way to keep the data available in case the hardware goes
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>>42906218
MicroAPL? I'm sold!
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>>42903788
>>42903831
you talking about my computer
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>>42906278

The CBM/PET computer line has some nice stuff. Too bad nobody saw seems to remember these models and alway say that the C=64 is the best (while beaten by the CBM-II B.
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>>42906277
You might just have saved a company that has every reason to be dead. T-thanks.
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>>42906334

... aaand I forgot the pic.
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>>42906304
asw 1337 h4ck3r Nef Quintero would say

"Ohh shit, looks so hard right??"
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#rekt
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>>42906334
They were unsuccessful in North America since 6502 machines could not use CP/M.
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>>42906400
"When we invented the first personal computer system"

I love revisionist history.
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>>42906409

But the CBM-II had a 8088 board and could run CP/M and it's own version of MS-DOS. Bad advertising is main reason why it failed so miserably.
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>>42906475
>>42906409
Using BASIC as an OS was also a strike against them in the business market.
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>>42906433

Yup, everyone know it was Olivetti in the 60s, followed by Micral in the early 70s.
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The Altair 8800 is generally considered the first microcomputer, but there was a French 8008 one out a few months before it.
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And no love for the TI 99/4A

Definitely summertime in here.
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>>42906499
>>42906409

Just look at this sexy case:
http://oldcomputers.net/b128.html

>>42906586

Yup, the Micral. But before this one, in the 60s, Olivetti made the Programma micro computer.
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>>42906604

I never used one, and don't know much about it. If the community was more vocal, I'm sure this computer would attract more fellow enthusiasts.
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>>42906499
For comparison, machines like the TRS-80 Model II had BASIC only on disk and not ROM in order to make the computer seem more "professional".
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>>42906475
It would have been wiped out by IBM PCs in a short time anyway. Once Lotus 123 came out, it was all over for CP/M computers in the business market.
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>>42905985
Holy shit?! Quad booting?!

Now I can install Windows 2000, Windows NT 4.0, Windows 98, and Loonix!
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>>42906762
>>>/reddit/
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>>42906762
>not booting OS/2
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>>42906631
TI-99/4As suffered from a number of crippling architectural deficiencies. One of these was using the VRAM for the main system RAM since the computer used a 16-bit CPU and would have otherwise needed faster, more expensive memory. Unfortunately, this meant that the CPU could only access the RAM during the vertical retrace.

Even worse, the BASIC was double-interpreted since like everyone else, TI licensed Microsoft's BASIC, but nobody there knew how to program the oddball 9900 CPU, so they were provided with an intermediate language to write BASIC in.
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>>42906826
>TI licensed Microsoft's BASIC

TI-BASIC was a bit more complex than MS-BASIC.
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>Computers nowadays make it easy to get stuff done.
>But what do you do when you want to spend more time getting the computer ready than using it?
>This time we cover Arch, on the Computer Chronicles!
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>2000 is retro
what the fuck, am I getting that old
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>>42906826
Also too expensive to compete with 8-bit computers like the Atari 800 since, even with these price-cutting measures, a 16-bit machine was still inevitably going to cost more. Finally, TI retained rigid control over the 99/4A and discouraged outside software development. This was in contrast to Apple and Commodore who fully documented their machines and actively promoted software devs. This was often the case with many early microcomputer companies (Radio Shack was another offender) whereby they tried to maintain tight reign over software released for their machines while not stopping to think that nobody will buy a computer that has nothing to run on it.

The end result being that there was little software for the TI 99/4A other than kiddie eduware.
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>>42906869
Of course they added custom features for the TI computer like they did every other version of BASIC.
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>>42906907
I know I am.

>French Erotic Film is 11 years old
>Geocities died 5 years ago
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>>42906934
Ah yeah, my dad said he did recall back then that the TI-99/4A and TRS-80s were pretty short on software.
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>>42906904
I read that in his voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi8ksk-8_Dg
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>>42903498
You're making me sad. I miss this machine.
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>>42904237
Did you own an IBM PS/2? They could do colour and sound no problems.
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>>42907195
Yeh but Amiga was the go-to platform for that stuff.
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>>42907329
True, iirc the popular package was called something along the lines of video toaster..

This doesn't mean the PS/2 couldn't do colour and sound tho. I know, I owned a couple of them. No where near as nice as the PC 5150.
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>>42907374
>This doesn't mean the PS/2 couldn't do colour and sound tho. I know, I owned a couple of them. No where near as nice as the PC 5150.

>PC 5150
???
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Not a PC, but relevant. Livermore data system analog modem. It has a telephone handset inside that you place on the receiver. I saw one of these one Ebay before and I kind regret not grabbing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9dpXHnJXaE
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>>42907389
Doesn't he mean the original IBM PC?
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>>42907389
Yeah this definitely would have trouble with colour and sound, but I loved it.
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>>42903796
I've got a floppy of simearth for the mac sitting right here. It's adorned my desk for years now. Don't have a classic mac anymore to run it on :(
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>>42907450
I've got simcity 2000 for mac on floppies, sealed in the original box. Bought for 25p.
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>>42907436
I know the 5150 was the model name for the original IBM PC, but I didn't imagine he'd actually be referring to that because there's no way someone would think a 4.77Mhz 8088 was more powerful than the PS/2 line.
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>>42907491
He said right above he meant the original 5150.
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>>42907491
I never said it was more powerful, just nicer. Nicer everything, it was built like a tank, out of proper metal. Not plastic crap like the PS/2 was.
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>>42907529
Also dat keyboard. So good people are still using them today.
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>>42907529
PS/2s seem to have a lot of issues with flaky floppy drives. I hear a lot of stories in these threads of people who have a PS/2 with a dead floppy. Must be the supplier that IBM used.
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>>42907566
They used a lot of weird shit in the PS/2 in an attempt to lock down the platform.
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>>42907550
That's the Model M, not the Model F found on the 5150 which is incompatible with 286+ PCs.
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>>42907529
>>42907566
I never really cared for PS/2s or wanted one in my collection.

BTW, you can replace the floppies with a standard type, but you'll need an adapter to split the power because the data ribbon cable also contains the power lines.
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I want to get an older PC and upgrade it to a 90's gaming PC
It doesn't have to have all the parts I've got quite a few from that era laying around, including a Voodoo2 I want to put in it. (Don't worry, it's in an anti-static bag, in a box, with some non-static foam)

I was looking for something along the lines of a Pentium MMX 233MHz and 64MB RAM.
I would buy one off eBay but I'm not about to pay $200+ for an EBIC YELLOWED RETRO GAYMEN PC COVERED IN SODA STAINS AND STICKERS XDDDDDDDDDD
I've tried the thrift stores around here and all they carry is shit like $20 stereos and clothing, and the pawn shops won't take anything older than 4 years.

Any idea on where I could go guys?
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>>42907447
>trouble with color and sound
Just put a goddamn VGA card and Adlib in it.
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>>42907621
Good to know you're paying that close attention. You're right ofc, but I always had a model m, so to me it's a "5150 keyboard". I think they only provided the other one for a few years, and people hated it.
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>>42907714
I don't think you can use a Model M on a 5150.
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>>42907750
You're definitely wrong there, bud. You just described my first pc.
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>>42907697
The guy you're talking to is an obvious Yuropoor (colour) and I doubt he was using any IBM PC back then. Maybe an Amstrad or something.
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>>42907780
For reference, the 5150 had an AT keyboard port, looked a bit like a midi port.
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>>42907406
That's damn nice wooden box, the leather strap seems to be of good quality too.
And then someone ruins it with those shit labels.
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>>42907797
I'm from the UK, and yes I did have an IBM PC 5150 back then.
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IBM did produce a version of the Model M for XTs, but it requires a 1986 or later BIOS. The 5150 can't use the extra keys on this thing.
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>>42906793
Obligatory video for mentions of OS/2:
http://youtu.be/-DAojx2Hgec
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>>42907406

Nice acoustic coupler!
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>>42907853
It'll work, but the BIOS ignores anything other than the keys available on the Model F. You can read them if you write your own code though.
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>>42907690
Buy it off eBay in parts, there's lots of people listing stuff for $5 or $9 until they eventually sell them.
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>>42907900
The hard part is finding an AT or Baby AT case.
I've looked and looked and looked, no results.
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>>42903769
Byte and back catalogs of other titles are being scanned on a semi-regular basis. Full downloads, no watermarks, no bullshit: https://archive.org/details/computermagazines
Go nuts.
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Later XTs also became available with 3.5" floppies, but you'll need to use the DRVPARM function in CONFIG.SYS to tell DOS there's one present because otherwise it thinks the drive is 360k 5.25". In that case, the FORMAT command won't format disks to 720k and DOS will not be able to access anything but the first 40 tracks of the floppy. This isn't a problem with self-booting diskettes (eg. games) because they have their own internal disk access routines.

Remember: XTs don't have CMOS memory, only DIP switches, so they have no way to differentiate between floppy types.
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>>42906934
>The end result being that there was little software for the TI 99/4A other than kiddie eduware.

Uhhh...

http://www.mainbyte.com/ti99/carts/carts_list.asp

I see plenty of games, some accounting/word processing software, and some other stuff.
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>>42907983
What about 8086 laptops with 3.5" drives like the Zenith SuperSport?
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>>42908094
I guess they probably just put in the BIOS parameter table that the drives are 720k or something.
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Master race
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>>42906791
Reddit is for autists who can't comprehend satire.
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>>42904775
>dat corrosion
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>>42910833

Yup, battery leakage and all the fun that comes from. Got it for free though, I can't complain.
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>>42910210
Is this not the same computer Miles Dyson uses in Terminator 2, the scene where Sarah shoots up the place?
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I got an Apple IIe from a garage sale a year ago for $25. Included a monochrome monitor, duodisk reader, a tackle box full of floppys, and printer.
Don't know if the printer works, and I have yet to actually do anything with it besides writing 'Hello World' a dozen different ways.
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>>42912392
Get a null modem cable and use it as a terminal for a Linux or BSD machine.
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>>42912392

Heh, nice. I've never saw one at that price in my country, they're alway way overpriced.
You can try to learn to code in machine language from a BASIC interpreter. That's what I've done with my Amstrad CPC.
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>>42905768

>you will never be a kid in the 80's

that ad looks cozy as fuck
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>>42912414
I did get a modem cable actually, but I still need to get a serial to USB dongle converter thing.
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>>42912471

Be prepared to get several ones, as many has compatibility issues with other devices using a serial port.
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>>42912462
I was a kid in the 80s and I had that ad pinned to my corkboard as a hint to my parents.
Never got the Apple. Ended up with an Amiga 500 instead, so everything turned out for the best.
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>>42912514
I've had good luck with the ones with the semi-transparent blue DB-9 end, silvery cable, and FTDI chipset.
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>>42912471
>but I still need to get a serial to USB dongle converter thing.
Are you using a desktop PC? You might not even need a usb dongle. Lots of motherboards still have the serial and parallel port headers on the motherboard. My brand new asus h97m-plus have those headers right below the bottom PCIe slot.

You can salvage them from old PCs, or get one from ebay/china.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171362651332

I've seen much cheaper ones too, also with free shipping from china.
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I own 2 Osborne-1 systems, with a single copy of the original CP/M 1.0 OS disk.

a Panasonic "Portable" Sr-Partner with integrated thermal printer

an original Mac 512k with external floppy disk and a new copy of System 3.2.

a PowerMac 7200/120 with 32mb ram, extra cache module, and a 1.2GB SCSI hard drive.

an AT&T laptop from 1993, with Windows 3.1 on it, and all original software from 1993 pre-installed by AT&T corporate.

a Leading Edge laptop from ~1990, with 2mb of ram.

a couple Model M IBM keyboards I saved from the trash heap

oh, and a working Atari 2600 with a couple games.
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>>42913319

>I own 2 Osborne-1 systems, with a single copy of the original CP/M 1.0 OS disk.

Pretty nice anon! Do you have any photo of the beauty?
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I had a working Thinkpad 755CE up until when I moved. It had OS/2 Warp 3, with MS-DOS 5 and Windows 3.1 launchable within OS/2, along with a host of kickass contemporary software, Hyperaccess 5 and the Lotus suite among them.

I say "had a working Thinkpad" because during the move I tested for kicks before I packed it, with disastrous results. The AC adapter decided to throw a fit, shorting the 800 meg HDD into a coma and wiping the drive clean, or at least its ability to recognize its OS.
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>>42905635

They literally used the phrase "whiz bang".
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>>42913946
It wasn't considered ludicrous in 1985, mostly because of cocaine.
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>>42906163
I used to have one of these it would restart every time you punched it. Next time you're in, "accidentally" Punch it
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Who needs a Surface when this is out there?
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>>42914084
Wrong picture?
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>>42914084
Wrong image
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I want a CDPC XL!
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Who the fuck though putting a trackball there was a good idea?
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>all these wonderful computers
>only have a few pentium 3s and 2s
Anybody have any idea how to get more of them?
There is a recycling center not to far from here,can I find anything there? I tried flea markets,but it's just a ton of Mexicans selling tools and stolen car radios.
I hate living in Chicago.
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How about a Win3.1 tablet?
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Does /g/ drool all over this like they do every other IBM PC?
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>>42914201
>>42914097

What about the ST Pad? Too bad it have been canceled.
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>>42905679
4 you
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>>42914178
>recycling center

Definitely, it wouldn't hurt to check.
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>>42914225

The monitor is freaking nice!
Also, I don't think there's anything to drool over when t come to the Aptiva line (which was manufactured by the Taiwanese shitbox manufacturer of the time AKA Acer).
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Was anyone a Borland fan back in the day?
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There is nothing aesthetically pleasing about this machine at all...
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>>42914325
That's kind of what I like about it.
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>>42914325
>Dell as a botique vendor that sold things like OS/2 and UNIX preinstalled.
How the mighty have fallen. Their servers are still good, and would be nearly perfect if they exposed the DRAC web console as HTML5 instead of a Java applet, but their PCs have been going down the shitter since the days of the infamous BTX Optiplex.
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This take me back... This product had the best codename 'Tsunami'. Too bad it was riddled with bugs...
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I miss software box art... This app was great back in Win3.1 days. Way better that Program Manager.
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>>42914201
How do you write on it?
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Really wanted one of these back in the day. Settled with a Media Vision something or other since Sound Blasters were so expensive...
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The 1.3lb PC that fits in your pocket!
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>1/4
you IBM nerds should enjoy this
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>>42914512
>2/4
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>>42914525
3/4
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>>42914542
>3/4
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Scan by slowly dragging this thing over a page? Awesome....
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I love how so many people act like all these tablet designs aren't just rehashed from 20 years ago...
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>>42904346
>Shit guys, remember when facebook was a fucking website? God, When they first got into hardware everyone flipped their shit!
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>>42905679
Upper and lowercase, now that's beading edge.
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>>42914580
My mom bought one of these in 2006 for like $200 because it was portable. She bought it to scan legal documents. I can't attest the color quality because it was monochromatic. It sucked ass because we never got the timing right so it would either look way too stretched out or way too narrow. It was a pain in the ass to sync it with the PC.
Supposedly it was state of the art. We never used it more than a couple of times.
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I used to love how the trackball plugged into the side of the laptop on this thing. Seemed pretty slick...
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>>42914594
Does it come with Google Ultron preinstalled?
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>>42914650
That couldn't have been 2006, you could get a flatbed for way less than that by then.
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>>42914302
Yes, still used it up till about 2007.
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>>42906363
>read ad
>MSX for games

if the damn thing had fucking proper scroll hardware, it'd be pretty damn great for that

but since it doesn't (IIRC, only vertical scrolling was present), MSX games almost all have that hideous, choppy 8px at a time scrolling (or display one screen at a time), blech
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>>42914713
We already had a flatbed scanner. As I said, this one was for legal documents, the kind of documents you can't take home and use your fancy scanner on. Here's a picture of it. Ours is grey, though.
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great ad
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>>42914786
Crazy! I thought everyone moved on once flatbeds became cheap enough...
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And people complain about the price of Adobe CC...
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>>42914783
>only vertical scrolling was present

On the MSX 2 only, and the Horizontal one have been added on the MSX 2+.

Anyway, there are some great games on MSX, the konami ones for example, like Gradius 2, Salamander, Space Manbow, Metal Gear, Antarctic Adventures (better than the NES version).
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Almost the same weight as my current MBPr... Guess we haven't come that far yet
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>>42914580
Scan by pointing a fixed b/w camera at stationary pictures/objects and cycling a color filter? Awesome.
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>>42914869
Yeah, MSX gaming is great (Gradius 2 is awesome), it's just the hardware is kind of silly. Konami really loved the MSX, and they were in their prime back then.

>>42914922
That's... actually really neat, heh.
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Before there was internet porn...
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>>42914789
Please spoiler this post with an adequate trigger warning next time or I'll have you fired.
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>>42903384

>Allowed, but discouraged: Pre-OS X Macs
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>>42903384

that case looks familiar
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>>42914922

>For Amiga computers

Aww Yeah!
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A mouse on a stick... Great idea!
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>>42915031
ooops, only half the ad!
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>>42915049

ONLY $2400?? And replacing that flippy pop out gimmicky mouse gizmo when I inevitably snap it off only costs me $275 plus postage?!? I am a successful business man, sign me right up.
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>>42915049

My friend has one of these with a monochrome screen, fuck that mouse.
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>>42915049
>"Now HP stands for hot products."
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>>42915049

>486SLC/e

Fucking kek, what the fuck HP?
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>>42915118
How do you think that thing (slowly) ran for more than an hour on battery?
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>>42915049
>application keys
fuck, HP has had a fetish for that shit for a while now haven’t they?
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>>42915071
At least you get an SSD
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The most 90s ad I've found yet. ...and the tits implication, lol.
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>>42915146
With memory slower than what you find in a singing birthday card, oh wait, we're pretending it's 1995 right, nevermind.
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>>42915137

That's pretty shitty even for a subnotebook, though, but I guess for 1993 it's still better than a 386 SX-25
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With "Peavy" speakers? Sweet!
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>>42905793
Kill yourself you fucking subhuman.
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>>42915049
>can run on AA batteries

for what, like 10 minutes? Do they fucking melt?
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I wish people scanned in more NeXT promotional stuff, it’s hard to find
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Stand back... It's UNIX MAN!
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>>42915250

It's running on amazingly low-power hardware.
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>>42915201
>bitches don't know bout my imac G3 with Harmon Kardon speakerbox
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>>42915255
Me too.
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>>42915265
those fuckers sound way better than anybody would expect them to

back in 2000 I was in heaven with my iMac G3+iSub+Limewire
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>>42915265

>Imac G3
>1993
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>>42914949
>>First 600 MB for PC
>dated 1993

Wow
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>>42915265
>>42915293

Actually, speakerballs would be more accurate. I hooked some into a cassette deck and old 12V power supply and tucked it up under my rolling workbench in my shop. Puts out surprisingly good sound.
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Anyone remember PC towers as tall as a 6 year old?
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>>42915349
I still use one, a chenming ATX full tower, dremeled away some of it for 120mm fans
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>Allowed, but discouraged
I was modeling 3d and editing images in Photoshop while my Winfriends were playing minesweep and telling me Macs were for fags. It's bittersweet seeing them all love the abomination Apple has now become.
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Before ricing out a PC was a thing...
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>>42915349

me

I just bought a ZEOS 486DX-33 tower I'm trying to fix, it's much earlier than the one you posted though.

>won't even POST
>solid hard disk status lamp
>no beeps
>won't even boot with all the cards removed
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>>42915393

Ultrasonic bath?
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>>42906272
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>>42915410

wat

elaborate, I've never heard of that method
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>>42915381
Pre OSX apple was the real abomination
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Stacker was awesome... then disks started filling up with incompressible data like JPGs and MP3s and became worthless.
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>>42915418

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_cleaning

Some boards that appear to be dead are literally resurrected after this kind of bath.
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>>42915432
That shit was hackable as fuck, though. IIRC classic mac extensions just injected straight into memory to do their thing so the modifications they were capable of was impressive. The downside of course was that it was stupidly common to have extensions collide with each other and turn your system into a crashy, unusable mess.

Between extensions, kaleidoscope, and being able to directly edit most of the system resources with the Apple-provided ResEdit, classic Mac OS had ricing capabilities that outclass everything that’s come since. Kaleidoscope in particular was a real gem and could do things that artists can only dream of in modern theme engines.
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"Kids, you have to share a CDROM drive"
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>>42915432
it's awful but I still like it
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>>42915504
Yeah, I remember being jealous of Kaleidoscope. But I was 12 at the time... I could care less about window themes now.
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>>42915527

What software are you using for that? Or does the OS support it natively?

t. desperate Plus owner
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>>42903384

love these 90s adverts that seemingly show a fucking thesis on why you should buy their product.
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I remember the first time I used Visio, so awesome!
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>>42915432

Pre OSX Apple was the peak of their hardware quality.
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>>42903384
>Old computer thread
>No general Unix allowed
>No Unix allowed
>No
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>>42915543
>rad vents inside of case
0/10
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>>42915536
The OS doesn't support it natively (IIRC, no native desktop pictures until Mac OS 8), but you can use this:
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/backdrop

(I'm actually using a different utility in this screenshot that I dunno where I found it, I did set up Backdrop on a System 6 install though)
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>>42915543
It's like they were created by ad men from 40 years prior.
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>>42915563

noice

Now I just have to figure out how to get it on an 800K disk, kek
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http://windowshighasfuck.tumblr.com/
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>>42915544
oh yeah thats right. has microsoft actually created anything? it seems like everything they have they started by buying it
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>>42915563
oh, here's a disk image because I forgot that fucking stuffit file is in 5.x format, and only 4.x works on a Plus

this image is emulator only because it's the wrong size, IIRC if you make a proper 800k image and rawwrite it to a disk, it'll work:

http://a.pomf.se/vxkjpk.dsk
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NeXTSTEP for Intel, definitely wanted to get my hands on this when it was released.
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>>42915617

No big software company alive right now created their early product.
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"...gets you home for dinner"? WTF
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>>42915617
>>42915637

They didn't buy the BASIC interpreters they sold to MITS, Commodore, Atari, and other micro computer manufacturers.
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>>42915432
Strictly speaking of GUI's, System 7 was more modern than Win95/98. The underpinnings were pretty bad, I agree.
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I wonder if she comes with the network disk drive?
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>>42915666
Considering the underpinning were even worse than Win95/98, its saying a lot.
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I loved the docking station on the PowerBook Duo.
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>>42915547
I don't know about that. Gil Amelio shat out some pretty terrible hardware.
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>>42915706
oops.
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>>42915658

I will definitely give them credit for that. I was more alluding to their DOS and Windows ventures.

>>42915712

kek, I actually have one of those sitting on top of my bookshelf.

To me, the Mac II was the peak.
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>>42915595
http://a.pomf.se/omctvy.zip

here are two 800k disk images

one has the backdrop program
another is an image converter for System 6/7 (Backdrop takes MacPaint files, I used GIFConverter to convert a GIF I had edited in GIMP to be 1-bit B/W into Paint format)
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Its too bad modular laptops like this never caught on. Awesome idea.
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>>42915677
Your average System 7 machine did manage to be more stable than a Win95 one though.

which is hilariously depressing since it's true -- old school Mac OS is rotten internally (since before System 5, there wasn't really multitasking support, that got bolted on)
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the Mag Jag... someone didn't think that name through...
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>>42903384
>Supervisor is clearly taller than manlet employee.

This shit would never fly in today's politically incorrect work environment.

>mfw my boss is 5'1" manlet and everybody makes fun of him behind his back.
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>>42915742

not bad, thanks based polebro
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What the fuck can I do with this other one?

>only one floppy disk
>no hard disk or disk controller (5150)
>3270 emulation cards and keyboard dongle have been removed for some fucking reason

Does XENIX/86 have any abandonware or GNU shit for it you can find on the web?
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>>42915821

forgot attachment
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WTF Oracle?
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>>42915755
I don’t recall drivers and peripherals even being a problem under classic Mac OS, either. That part was pretty breezy.

The only time the system would get unstable is if you opened a badly written application or loaded it down with too many extensions. Java applets gave me a lot of trouble as well.
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>>42915881
Java would give trouble. Classic Mac OS is terrible at memory management, and in a garbage collected language like Java, it's pretty much constantly managing memory. Badly.

>that feeling when you have to reboot your machine because you close a program and there's not enough memory to open the one you wanted (even though you can normally do so)
to be fair, this only really is a major issue if you have < 8MB RAM, but it is pretty awful how bad Mac OS was with RAM management
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>>42915821

But at least it's got a real IBM MDA board, so I can swap my STB clone for it
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>>42915946
Java was unbearable on any OS that wasn't Sun's back then.
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we've come a long way.....*caresses gaming computer*
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>>42912390
No idea. It's the mindset master race workstation computer, far ahead of all of them: the Amiga, the Atari XT, Apple or IBM compatibles of that time. Did 3d real time rendering and editing before even the word multimedia was invented. Truly a technology and design icon.
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>>42915712

Still looks better than most ibm pc of that time and is also a lot smaller, pic related late 80s legendary business workhorse model: the IIci, often in use until late 90s or early 2000s
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>>42916879
>>42916748

Noice, less sexy than the Commodore PET/CBM line though.
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