OSX is free software.
There is no reason to use Linux.
Variety is good
Freedom of choice is good
OS 10 from Apple is as free as paying to go to a village that you may not leave, but your free to stay, just don't try and explore the surroundings or dig a hole or we will be free to sue you.
no, since you can get any computer, you're not obliged to buy one from the manufacturer.
apple does not offer os x to be downloaded to use it with hackintosh, do they?
so hackintosh doesn't count, since it's not quite legal to get osx this way. but linux is
No in fact that's what free software means
Perhaps you're mixing up free and 'free of charge' and gratis
Typical applefaggots can't use a dictionary, lel, it's even in the apple dictionary under free software.
He's wrong you know. You can hack OS X to your heart's content. You can even install Windows on a Mac.
Of course Hackintosh is legal. Perhaps it's not supported by Apple but neither are most versions of Linux.
Hackintoshing is against the EULA. Now if youve never broken the rules in a EULA you're a faggot and nobody likes you. Find me some legislature that actually gives a fuck about installing OSX on non-apple hardware.
Yes, you can. The kernel and many major components are open source and you can use your own DE/WM if you so desider and most linux programs run fine under OSX. Go fuck yourself, faglord.
Yeah we're talking about Hackintosh, which if it was legal (it isn't) then it would be supported more by Apple (which it isn't, because it's not legal). Why would you link Windows, a competing operating system, on a website that doesn't use their operating system?
You're just digging yourself deeper my friend
Try running a large business on hackintosh you fucking retarded macfaggot, enjoy your lawsuit.
Modify quartz, or any other proprietary part of OS X.
Why are macfaggots so stupid? The question was, IS IT LEGAL. The answer is NO IT'S NOT. Wow bro, you're such a badass bypassing copyright restrictions and claiming that it's legal, truly.
OS X is not free software. Period. Suck a dick, and use your own dictionary that's included with your fucking trash operating system. It will tell you the same thing. Stupid fucking retard macfaggots.
>H. Other Use Restrictions. The grants set forth in this License do not permit you to, and you
agree not to, install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-branded computer, or to
enable others to do so
>The question was, IS IT LEGAL. The answer is NO IT'S NOT.
just because you say something in capital letters doesn't mean it's true. which law am I breaking with my hackintosh?
>implying I give a shit about legality anyway
You're not obeying Apple's copyright restrictions, because the EULA is the license that OS X is distributed under. You're breaking copyright law. If you don't give a shit, then don't claim it's legal. The whole point of free software is that you can use it however you want, except in the case of the copyright hack (the GPL) where it restricts you from restricting others.
OS X is not free software. It is not legal to install on non-Apple computers due to copyright restrictions. Now fuck off.
You're breaking copyright law if you run your business off hackintoshes you fucking moron. You're also breaking a contract (the EULA) that is enforcable through court. You only have the right to use that software by fucking agreeing to everything in that EULA. EULAs are simply contractual extensions to existing legislation, and so you are fucking wrong.
Now eat a dick, faggot.
If you have no license to copyrighted material, you may not use, redistribute or alter it, or you're breaking copyright law.
If you break the license, you have no license.
That's how it works, I think.
>You're breaking copyright law if you run your business off hackintoshes you fucking moron.
nobody would do this anyway also you're the only one mentioning a business and you only started doing it about halfway into the argument so it's invalid
>You're also breaking a contract (the EULA) that is enforcable through court.
they're not going to go out of their way to sue you in clown court because you broke a EULA
All I hear is fucking damage control. You are wrong. EULAs are extensions to existing legislation: they are a license that include contractual provisions outside the reach of copyright, and require you to accept it before you can use their works.
Now please put a fucking gun in your mouth and pull the trigger, you stupid macfaggot.
not that guy, but listen here, dumbass
using hackintosh is as illegal as using windows without buying it. to use windows, you must buy it, just as to use osx you must buy a mac. when using hackintosh you are basically pirating
using osx on a computer hardware (read: not a mac)
it's not really lega though, since apple does not distribute it's os.
everyone claiming osx is free is just trolling or stupid, enough reasons are mentioned in this thread
>You need to buy hardware to run windows and linux though so your statement is invalid.
Always the same motherfucking fallacy.
You can legally install Windows on any x86 computer not made by Microsoft, you can't legally install OS X on any computer not made by Apple.
>nobody would do this anyway
Ah, so we went from "it's not illegal" to "ok it is, but no one would do that".
Dem goal posts.
>you only started doing it about halfway into the argument so it's invalid
What? Presenting an example halfway into the argument nullifies your entire point? Oh macfags, you so funny.
Keyword is update dumbass, it doesn't say anywhere they are offering you the whole product, just the update. They could charge you for Yosemite, it would still be an upgrade, and it wouldn't be priced at 0 bucks.
Actually they keyword here is "free". Since it's only free if you already had a version of it, it's a gigantic stretch to call it free.
>If you buy 10 beers you get one free.
>GUISE THIS BAR SERVES FREE BEER
>Stupid fucking retard macfaggots.
man you should calm down you're gonna have a stroke. not even trolling, you might genuinely have anger issues which will lead to health issues.
not worth it bro. calm down.
In third world shitholes that haven't been ruined by copyright law, yes they aren't legally binding.
>Buying OSX and installing it on a pc isn't pirating
If you buy it, you're still breaking contractual obligations that are outside of the reach of copyright law that they force you to accept before you can use it.
>EULAs are not a legaly binding contract in most parts of the world
>Buying OSX and installing it on a pc isn't pirating
>nope buying osx and installing it on a pc isn't pirating
you cannot buy it as a installation disk, not without buying a machine. once again, tell microsoft about it, they would teach you a thing or two about "piracy"
>tell microsoft about it, they would teach you a thing or two about "piracy"
You mean how they looked the other way when their office suite was pirated because people got hooked on it that way?
EULAs aren't always enforcable, there are various Supreme Court decisions about this. Apple's "you can only use this on Mac hardware" steeze probably won't fly as the justices who don't understand technology would probably point to the "free" price-tag despite the EULA, making the EULA unconscionable.
>Apple's "you can only use this on Mac hardware" steeze probably won't fly
There has already been court cases with this exact provision. They won.
Why do macfaggots feel the need to drag out this conversation, in an attempt to damage control or what?
Your whole has been "well it's only illegal to install OS X on a computer not made by Apple on some places".
There are 0 places where it's illegal to install Windows on a computer not made by Microsoft or a distro on a computer not made by GNU/EFF/Linux.
Not against end-users but commercial hackintosh sellers. End-users have consumer protection laws so Apple won't risk going after individuals for a suit they can lose.
EULAs are legal contracts enforceable under contract law, but they should obey consumer protection and anti-trust laws.
Suing end-users would be terrible publication for Apple and they never do that so we don't know if it would hold.
>You mean how they looked the other way when their office suite was pirated because people got hooked on it that way?
no, I mean how conveniently they use IP/copyright law to sue people and corporations
It uses BSD code, but doesn't return some of the cool stuff they built on top, it isn't innovative, but claims to be "the world's most advanced operating system", and other annoying apple dickery.
EULAs are not enforceable in court, as you cannot agree to the terms of the contract before you purchase and then must agree to them to make use of the goods you have already purchased.
Tell us one thing you dislike about the GPL, asides from the fact that you can't distribute proprietary software that uses it.
I bet you can't find one legitimate reason. Being forced to give access to the source doesn't count.
Not that guy but ironically enough Microsofts accusations of the GPL being a viral license are actually true with version 3. Forcing you to use the same license is absolutely unacceptable. Forcing you to adopt a software as a service business model is unacceptable.
You stallmanites keep using the word freedom to describe what you're trying to push onto the world but I really don't see how this is being free. My code, my choice, Your computer, your choice as to whether or not you run my code.
I not hate GPL, i dislike GPLv3 only and, i said already because it cause problem for developer and ordinary user example: i can't use Pidgin with OpenSSL because GPL not compatible with old BSD 4-clause license.
So it doesn't allow you to distribute proprietary software or software that may as well be proprietary, since it can't be altered on the device. That is also invalid.
I suppose license incompatibility may be an actual issue, but the BSD license allows for proprietary code, so I wouldn't blame the GPL or v3 for the fault of the BSD licenses.
Bullshit you need to be using Apple hardware with a pre-existing registered copy of OSX Mountain Lion or less.
It is only free as an upgrade to OSX users, not to the whole world. Stop misleading people you asslord.
Linux is free because it runs on any given hardware mix. Windows comes second as it also runs on variety of hardware without restriction.
OSX is like being in a quarantine zone where you can only hang out with other infected lunatics like you.
>EULAs are not enforceable in court
This again. Yes, fuckface, they are. This has been debunked ad nauseum. At this point you're just creating whichever reality suits your personal beliefs better.
"The World's Most Advanced Operating System"
Their advertising is disgusting.
Their market manipulation of consumers is really shallow to me
I'm not even being edgy or tipping my fedora.
Just fucking look at it
>deviantart level icon design
even the font smoothing is now shit, which was one of their strongest features.
imac user here. got it free from work so i don't really give a shit about cost.
the aside, why are they making osx look like the new shitty ios. I got rid of my iphone for an android device just because of how shitty the new OS was.
why are they doing this, now I'm going to have to download windows onto it.
nigga learn what free software really is. Every OS has been free as in beer since the dawn of the OS, as much as the CEOs love this, you really can only sell softwarez and movies to plebs and corporate shills. you cant put a fucking price of software, shit retard the implications of free computing around the world in terms of job creation, education and overall well being is endless and the human race might actually get ahead. Steve jobs never figured this out jesus smote his ass before he could, at least Bill Gates is starting to feel guilty about yanking tech out of the populations hands and amassing the equivalent of several small nation state's gdp in his own pocket.
Can mac use xfs and btrfs side by side efficiently?
Is there a rolling release version of OS X?
Can osx be installed on raspberry pi?
Is there a comparable package manager for osx?
I'll boot up my mbp once again, if all of the above are reality, ignoring the fact that it's proprietary nsa affiliated OS.
> The court held that Psystar's misuse defense failed because it was an attempt to apply the first sale doctrine to a valid licensing agreement. The court affirmed the district court's order enjoining Psystar's continuing infringement and Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), 17 U.S.C. 1203(b)(1), violations and held that the district court properly applied the Supreme Court's four eBay Inc. v MercExchange, L.L.C. factors.
> In November 2009, a U.S. Federal District Court ruled Psystar violated Apple's copyrights in doing so.
perhaps english isn't someone's first language?
>Apple brought this action against Psystar for copyright infringement because Psystar was using Apple's software on Psystar computers. The district court held that Psystar was infringing Apple's federally registered copyrights in its operating software, Mac OS X, because Psystar was copying the software for use in Psystar's computers.
PsyStar was selling OS X on non-Apple computers, violating Apple's copyrights.
you can't honestly think this. oh boy.
> The end-user license agreement for Mac OS X forbids third-party installations of Mac OS X, and Psystar's Mac clone is in violation of that agreement.
osx isn't free, the cost is included when you purchase a mac.
if it were 'free', you would be able to download the iso's legitimately from apple, and you wouldn't need to throw together software to trick it to work, and you wouldn't need to break the eula to do so.
yes, you can argue all day long about how eulas dont hold up in court, it doesn't change the fact that osx is not 'free'.
updates are free? yes, but considering i paid for updates after 10.6.8 i guess i will be waiting for my refund for a while now
lel quite an assumption.
Let's say i inherent a broken pc, i swap the broken parts with newer one, and installed a os suitable for ancient pc. I just bought maybe a hdd or ram, it's infinitely cheaper than $999 mac as a dumb terminals.
let's see how your free osx can install on an ancient pentium.
No you don't
Mainly, yes. Depends on what part of the soure we're talking and what license it's under.
>No it's not.
Yes, it is.
>No you can't.
Yes, you can.
**or if you have the IQ of a retarded rock and spend an hour or so playing big boy Legos
Why don't you? It's pretty nice. I'm hitting a few glitches but it's a beta so of course.
Well of course it does. Ubuntu is generically designed to run on x86_64 computers. OS X is specifically designed to run on certain PowerPC, x86, and ARM computers.
You don't need an existing version of OS X to obtain the newest version for free.
You need Windows 8 to get 8.1 for free, don't you? You don't need 10.8 to get 10.9 for free.
EULA doesn't mean anything. I paid $0 for 10.10, it was free.
Jealousy, Fox and the Grapes, edgy 12 year olds being edgy, disinformation, etc.
Darwin is not OS X.
This engine is a car
>implying Linux is better than OS X
>You don't need an existing version of OS X to obtain the newest version for free.
That's an outright lie.
Protip: you are able to prove me wrong and yourself right by posting an official download link.
>It uses BSD code, but doesn't return some of the cool stuff they built on top
A lot of the "cool stuff" is patented software and algorithms. This is why the BSD licence is superior. GPL sucks because it's the programming equivalent of the one drop rule.
>Still not paying for the OS
Not getting it for free (at zero expense) either. You can get Windows for free too.
>OS X is designed for Macs anyway, why run it on something else?
Because I want.
Also because I like laptops but Macbooks look like shit.
Also because that's the point of this troll thread.
> It's not.
$2000 for a facebook machine
meanwhile, x60s purchased from ebay, with dock, for $60. Working battery was another $20. Install Linux with gnome 3.12. Congratulations, I now have a better netbook than a macbook air for about 1/25th of the cost.
Why is this meme still a thing? It's the most retarded thing I've ever heard and you people seem to use it like it's a legitimate reason
And no, the MacBook would be a much better buy.
Free in terms of cost, but still proprietary, and therefore a possible host of NSA spyware. Also, Linux runs on more hardware. If Linux works on my Thinkpad and OS X does not, why would I get another laptop with inferior hardware just to run OS X?
most used thinkpads are business machines. given a proper refurb that any reputable seller will do, they're basically like new.
and btw, I think the classic thinkpad design looks much better than the macs do. It looks like a laptop designed to be used, not to be carried as a fashion accessory.
>I think the classic thinkpad design looks much better than the macs do
>dog shit looks better than horse shit
Ok, I'll be here enjoying the touchscreen and backlit keyboard on my beautiful, classy AND functional laptop.
>PsyStar was selling OS X on non-Apple computers, violating Apple's copyrights.
There are still companies doing it and apple can't do shit because outside the USA it goes like law > apple's EULA.
Pays 1300$ for computer, says the Os is free... Are you dense?
If you buy the glass cup for 30 dollars*, well fill it up** for free!***
>*plastic cup, actual glass cup extra
>***optional programs and apps extra
>>***optional programs and apps extra
actually, when you buy a mac, you also get the iLife crap and the office suite for gratis.
windows makes you pay, not only for their office suite, but for every single fucking feature.
> windows home
> windows pro
> windows enterprise
> windows buttsex