/FAST/ FASTING GENERAL

So, you guys keep posting in these generals to avoid eating?

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I caved bros. It feels so good.

>>42773985
I hope you didn't break anything longer than a day with that

>>42773985
at least eat something healthy ffs

>>42773765
How can I fast without my stomach being loud? Even after 10 hours or so, it is audible and embarrassing.

I'm on day 5.5 of my 0 calorie water fast and been weighing myself every day. I have gone from 241 pounds to 228 pounds. I'm losing 2.34 pounds a day. Is this healthy? I feel fine but this seems to be extremely fast in terms of weight loss.

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>>42773985
I may be erect rn

>>42774085
most of that is most likely water weight
how are you feeling?

>>42774174
>I feel fine
Faggot.

>>42773765

potentially stupid question, but....
that's steve1989 from MREinfo.com I watch his youtube videos reviewing MREs. I've noticed he's pretty muscular, but does he do anything fitness related? is he /ourguy/?

>>42774195
why did you call him a faggot?

>>42774314

Because he's a faggot, faggot.

>>42774346
i dont understand but ok i guess

Mind is sharpening up now that I am reasonably deep in. Sort of want to try drinking coffee to see if I go into god mode.

>>42773985
Broke my fast once by getting chinese food with some friends, ended up running to the bathroom so I wouldn't shit myself.

>>42774518
what's stopping you, faggot?

>>42774610
coffee has calories

>>42774610
I build a tolerance quickly so I cycle on and off it but the first few days back on coffee are amazing. I have not been productive on this fast and I want to ensure I make good use of those first few days of coffee.

>>42774536
why didn't you shit yourself, faggot? your friends were there, it would have been hilarious for them. some friend you are, faggot.

For the last two weeks or so, I've been skipping breakfast and lunch. I've also discovered that I can have a really filling dinner with a protein shake.

I can't be consuming more than 500 calories a day. I have no issue sustaining this, but I'm somewhat concerned about being nutritionally limited. Are there any risks in this and any mitigations I should take? I currently take a multivitamin.

>>42776218
You will get malnutritioned on the long run. You need fats and trace elements, even if you get all necessary vitamins from that pill (I doubt it).

>>42776253
I'll probably be unable to avoid at least a few social outings during the week. Assuming I get a reasonable meal, would that be sufficient?

>>42776265
How am I supposed to know what those meals consist of nutritionally? You need to check that yourself.

Bulking 5/6 months. Gained 12kg.
I am going to start a cat2 PSMF next month. Wish me luck

Broke my 5 day fast with nice 300g of saurkraut. Hope I wont shit myself at work

I started 16/8 IF a month ago and for the first time since then I broke my fast
>tfw I had an apple cider vinegar and cinnamon shot this morning because I had massive stomach ache

2 weeks of IF and so far I like it
Way better than suppressing hunger through the day

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>1st day after 4 day refeeding cycle
>mfw, best shit taken ever, this morning

I was worried. No poops yesterday. I even made a pot of coffee this morning in prep of a rough day. I never drink coffee and on the rare occasion I do, it is great for getting the intestines going. However, as soon as I could smell the coffee, everything got going anyway.

My 10 day fast is finally over.

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Was thinking of doing a twenty-eight day fast with two days of eating fruit on both ends. Is this alright?

>>42777052
No.

After 7 days of fasting you must make your refeed longer. You need to start out with stuff like 4oz juice mixed with 4oz water only for the first day every 4 hours. 2nd day is 4oz juice mixed with 4oz water plus 4oz bone broth every TWO hours. 3rd day is same thing plus some small things of fruit, like no more than half a cup for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. 4th days is same thing but with more fruits and adding in some normal diet stuff. Keep the amounts low and drink as much water as possible. Remember to keep taking your vitamins, minerals, and salts during this time or you will get dehydrated. Do abdominal massages several times a day for at least 5 days after breaking your fast. This will help prevent constipation.

Google up more about how to refeed after an extended fast. Otherwise, you can end up killing yourself or becoming so constipated that you need medical assistance. Don't just take my word for any of this, do proper research.

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>>42776936
How do you feel, brother?

>>42777170
I’ll take your word for it, Anon. Maybe I’ll just to a few one-week fasts instead of one long one.

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1/2

A few questions

Been having the occasional diabetes like symptoms for over a year now, sudden crashes in energy levels, waves of tiredness, extreme hunger out of the blue, frequent urination. I might go days or weeks and be continuously fine, or I might have bad days for days in a row.

Went to the doctors about a year ago for a blood test, said I was fine. Does that definitely rule out pre diabetes? Or can it sometimes not show up?

So, the past year I decided to cut out sugar, start weight training etc, and while the frequency of having these moments has gone down (I no longer have to check I have emergency food in my pockets every time I go out somewhere), I still have them. Which is incredibly frustrating, because it means for hours on end I might be completely useless, unable to concentrate or do anything productive.

Maybe my insulin levels are used to a routine, if that makes sense. I'm used to having something for breakfast, something around 10.30-1.00ish, something for lunch. The advice I've been following so far has been eat little and often, so you don't go hungry and won't have crashes. But maybe this is masking the problem rather than solving it; for example, I had breakfast today, and because I had to be out somewhere I had to skip my 10.30-11.00 snack and couldn't eat until lunch, by which time I was starving, exhausted, and felt like falling asleep. At this 2 hour meeting I went to piss 3 times, whereas everyone else only went once. This was with other people having giant mugs of coffee as well, and me having a small cup of water. So I'm thinking, get my body used to going out of routine by intermittent fasting or full fasting, so that in similar situations my body will know to carry on functioning normally rather than go full REEE it's time for food you need to eat something and make me crash.

>>42777490
2/2

Other, normal, people seem to be able to skip meals, or have something filled with sugar for a meal, they don't really have to think about it, and function just fine. Whereas I, on my supposedly healthier than the average diet, avoiding sugar and junk food, have to regularly plan my day around how much I've eaten so I end up able to concentrate for a specific thing or whatever.

So, will intermittent or full fasting help do you think? A reset button of sort for my insulin or appetite or however it works?

And if I do do it, presumably I ll, at first, feel starving and unable to concentrate but eventually I'll get used to it?

I read a biography about Steve Jobs and he did crazy diet stuff all the time, he would go for week long fasts and was still able to do work and have to energy to get on with things? Presumably that's normal and I'm not?

>>42777537
Just to follow up, presumably if, for example, I fasted for a day, once or twice a week or something, would my body in time be used to being 'out of routine', so that if I needed to I could skip meals, whatever, and still function fine?

>>42777490
>>42777537
You might have Insulin Resistance (cant be detected by simple blood tests)

I have/had the same problems.
Try out IF (skip breakfast) and move a lot more. It is reversible.

Look it up on Google.

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>>42777490
>>42777537
Nigger I appreciate that you're strong enough to deal with a threatening prospect like diabtes

BUT DID YOU EVEN FUCKING READ THE OP LINKS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

IF AND FASTING IS PUSHED BY DR. FUNG AS A SOLE PROTOCOL FOR DIABETES REVERSAL

YOU WOULD FUCKING KNOW THAT IF YOU WOULD JUST READ THE GODAMN LINKS

Mention to your doctor (as long as they aren't a pharma kike) that you want to try easy IF daily and go from there, show them fungs articles and studies if you need to, good luck

>>42777587
>>42777588

Thanks.

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>>42773765
Why is Steve the poster child for fasting?

>>42777316
Mostly, the same as before the fast only lighter. This was for weight loss, not mental clarity. I lost 16lbs during the whole process. After a few days of "normal" diet I'll be 19:5 IF, which is normal for me on days I need to get lots of work done, only now it'll be standard protocol. It'll be easy to lose the rest of the weight through that then maintain.

>>42777490
>>42777537
Yeah, I'm not a doctor, but relying on carbs can make for some really shitty roller coaster rides. Google up, "hypoglycemia". You can be fine then hulk out and/or crash and burn. Fasting, even IF can really help curb that problem. Water fasting, which is what I did, helps your mental outlook towards food in general. Only then, do you truly understand what your diet has been doing to you. Hypoglycemia is mostly likely your problem, not diabetes. It is extremely common and easily mistaken by non-health professionals as "diabetes."

>>42777384
>>42777537
I did a 10-day fast. It wasn't until my 6th days did all the negative symptoms go away fully, save for 2. After that, it was amazing. The 2 symptoms that remained were hunger, which isn't all that bad really and boredom. The boredom got worse with each day and is a common symptom. The best thing for that is to do physical labor. Not just mental labor. Like movies/tv all sucked and seemed to be worthless. Also, my libido went way down, which was fine for me since I'm like a rabbit normally. My general body state was the same as when having coffee, which I rarely ever ever drink. Talking and conversations went up, both online and off.

>>42777587
And can what I've described cause IR? I.e. eating healthily, no sugar, BUT eating regularly and routinely? I never used to be like this and it seemed to start when I was in university and was basically sedentary and 'grazing' all the time, usually on sugary things.

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>>42777588
No one reads the links. Well, no one "normal" reads them.

>>42777678
>>42777537
http://www.healthline.com/health/hypoglycemia-without-diabetes

>>42777720
The link you've sent literally says to eat every two hours to keep your blood sugar stable. How is that at all practical?

How mainstream is IF as an idea? If I do to the doctors and ask about it will they just go "hur dur don't do that just graze to keep blood sugar levels stable"?

>>42777783
Just call it skipping breakfast instead like all the other non-autists.

>>42777750
I only posted that to show you the symptoms. Consider IF your proper cure (I'm not a doctor). Remember, barely any "health" shit online shows more than a simple bandaid-level treatment for something.

>I have diabeetus type 2 and feel terrible!
>"lol here eat this candy bar and ur fixed! gib upboats noa"

Literally, every blog ever now.

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>>42777750
The ironic thing is that a full water fast will keep your insulin levels more stable than anything else. Take that with a grain of salt...literally. hahaha....hm.

>>42777843

But the most of pages I've found when searching for "fasting" and "hypoglycemia" comes back with saying about hypoglycemia being caused by fasting.

So just to be clear, if I'm hypoglycemic now, and go fasting, does the 'getting rid of hypoglycemia' apply just to 'during the fast' or also when eating goes 'back to normal'? If the latter, should it be better permanently, or would I keep having to fast now and again to keep 'curing' myself?

>>42777888
It is in the initial days of starting a fast. A fast fully crashes your body then it starts to switch gears until you are processing something other than carb inputs.

Actually, the way you/whoever I'm talking to, have been responding is endemic to the problems listed in >>42777490 you need hours of study & research and a properly clear head to recognize and understand what you are reading as it pertains to a whole; while being able to discern all the bullshit from fact. Thus, don't just google and read the first 3 links and form any opinion on it.

>>42777955
Knowing about it and breaking the cycle is very important. After that, you'll need to understand what is causing it in your diet and way you do your diet in order to prevent problems later on. Otherwise, you'll end up right back in the same rut you are currently in. There are no magic pills for doing the right thing for your own body. It takes fortitude and knowledge. Flip-flopping, like you are describing, is just as bad as gaining/losing lots of weight all the time. You need to sort your shit out and make healthy living your habit. Don't take my word on any of this, do your own lengthy research.

>>42774314
Because he's an insecure fat manlet thats why

Had to break my fast on day 5 because I was constipated. Ate saurkraut and few almonds and I will have more saurkraut tonight. Will hopefully start fast again tommorow once I will take shit. Wish me luck anons

>>42778083
What type of fast was it?

>>42778083
Were you constipated, or didn't need to shit since there was nothing inside you to shit out?

>>42778136
Need to know info. My last shit was on the 3rd day of no food at all. Ugliest shit ever. Then it was 7 days of beautiful no-shitting at all. It was like being some god who didn't need to shit, but had to piss all the time.

Started a 2 day fast last night, considering maybe doing a 3 day, thoughts? if I do a 3 day I can avoid friday drinking but I don't want to risk doing my usual 6 mile weekend hike on no food this early in my fasting career

>>42778184
You shouldn't have a problem with hiking and fasting. Just drink water and salts/minerals. Day 3 you may feel a bit queasy and general level of tiredness. It shouldn't get worse regardless of what you do. The exercise will actually help things along. The biggest tip I can give you is to bring a roll of toilet paper.

Is it normal for someone with insulin resistance to cut out sugar, then still be resistant (although better)?

>>42778097
Water fast

>>42778136
I didnt shit out last meal that I ate before starting( 2 kebabs but really I only ate meat+vegies from it because turk cunts burned the bread)

Just been reading stuff and watching videos

Is it right that if you already have hypoglycemia/Insulin resistance problems you shouldn't jump straight into IF because it will make you worse, instead 'transition' into it?

i usually do 12 hour fast everyday, but when i want to do a cheat meal (once a week) i dont anything all day and then go out and get some pizza/sushi. is it good?

On day 8 of my fast and 15-17 lbs. down. Definitely pleased with the results so far.. Not sure of how long I'll keep it going, but I guess I could shoot for 14 and see how it goes.

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>>42774174
>only drink water
>lose water weight

>>42778241
insulin resistance has almost nothing to do with the amount of sugar & whatever else you eat, it's about the fat you have on your body. overwe

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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that don't take ALA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlHMtr2gXUw
I'm completely uninterested in any potential fat loss shit, I'm in it for the amazing antioxidant production and recycling it allows your body to perform

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>>42773985
Fuck me that looks good
Broke my fast last night with some stuffed peppers, tortilla chips and milk, now I feel like shit. Let this be a warning friends.

Do any of you chew gum during your fasts? I know gum has little to no calories, but I've read a couple of studies like this one http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031938415300317 about how the act of chewing facilitates the release of ghrelin, leptin, and other digestive hormones. I'm curious if that has any effect on maintaining a fasted state. Anybody know?

>>42778332
Don't worry about it, keep going.

>>42778345
Do it and get it over with. Just hide a few days.

>>42778420
Your body flushes out as much as possible during that time so you lose more water than you ever would. The salts and minerals help you maintain enough water to prevent dehydration as you drink more and more water. Otherwise, you'll drink 2 gallons a day, piss it all out, and still be dehydrated.

>>42773985
>and he was never able to poop again

>>42778496
Fasting means fasting. Meaning no calories at all. Otherwise, it'd be called a "chewing gum diet".

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Considering a 7 day water fast
No absolutely nothing about preparing for it
Anybody mind giving me the rundown?

>>42778512
>Just hide a few days

Maybe I'm not a NEET and have obligations?

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>>42778526
nigger you'd best start with some IF routines and at least some 2 and 3 day fasts before you fucking kill yourself with a 7 day

>>42778544
If you are an adult it means you can plan ahead. Plan ahead. Simply knowing you'll feel like shit and be cranky can help you recognize the problem and not be snappy with other people.

How long would it take me to lose 10,5 kg with a water fast?

>>42778512
>Don't worry about it, keep going.

Too late already ate saurkraut this morning and had psyllium and coffee. But I will get back on track tommorow. At least I didnt eat any retarded unnecesary shit

>>42778526
Is your pic guy who fasted?Whats story behind it?

Also can autophagy clear my scars and skin moles?

>fasting
>keto
>eating bowls of vitamins
The things people who live in cubicles will do to stay healthy lmao

>>42778719
On the left is me December 2016
And on the right is about a week ago
I was on keto the entire time and ate 2000 calories didnt fast or anything too be honest

>>42778821
Good job. What was your starting weight and how much you lost?

i think i just swallowed a fly and broke my fast

>>42778523
t. retard

>>42779257
>being this confused on what fasting means

Irony.

>>42778559
I went from eating lots of shit into a 5 day fast, which I only had to stop because eating at the mess is 50% of socializing in the military. Wasn't too bad.

>>42779448
Branch and job now

>>42773985
Imagine breaking for fast to such garbage food. I always properly reward myself by not eating garbage served in plastic containers. Just as retarded as breaking fast at mcdonalds.

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What happens when you stop fasting? Do you gain weight?

>>42780062
You will regain some water weight, any fat you gain is due to CICO.

Which kind of schedule is the best if I want to fast for increased mental sharpness/concentration?

>you've adapted so well that you rode your stationary bike to death in the middle of a 3 day fast

is this what being superhuman feels like?

also w2c cheap stationary bike that won't die in a month like this one

>>42780320
>is this what being superhuman feels like?

Not at all. Wait until you reach day 7, then you'll have a better understanding.

i see a lot of people breaking their fast eating whatever.

doesn't it make more sense to break a fast with a ketogenic meal in order to keep ketosis going?

Who else here /1000/ calories a day?

>>42780743
It isn't about sense. It is about mental weakness for comfort foods.

>>42780743
>>42780839

even if they make it just 3 days, Fung or D'agostino say that a 3 day is good enough once every 3 months to half year, this including lowering insulin levels and cleaning out the body/renewing the immune system

Has anyone else had trouble sleeping during a fast? I woke up today at 1AM and couldn't go back to sleep so I played vidya till the gym opened. I don't feel tired at all though.

anyone have any tips for avoiding diarrhea after breaking a fast? been doing ~38:10 ADF for a couple weeks and love everything about it except pissing out of my ass 30 minutes after i break my fast.

>>42781224
yeah, it's pretty common. all you can really do is try some sleep aids like melatonin to get to sleep, ZMA to stay asleep, avoid lights before going to sleep, use f.lux, etc.
just trial and error to see what works for you

>>42778526
>stop eating
>water and black coffee only
>take multi everyday
>take light salt (potassium+salt) if you feel lethargic
>take magnesium pills if your multi has too little

It's not a competition, its ok if you dont make it on your first try. Just don't fuck it up and break the fast with a binge like I did a couple of times already, you'll feel worthless and will enter a vicious cycle of eating-starving disorder.

What would you say I am likely to lose after a 7 day fast, just doing about 3 miles walking, and maybe some bodyweight? 6"3 and 95kg

>>42781809
Do the math man, its like 3/4-1lb a day plu some water weight loss that will return. 7-10lbs id bet.

>>42781860

Right, I was wondering if maybe things were different for a fast, metabolism slowdown and stuff like that.

>>42781889
>metabolism slowdown and stuff like that
Fag actualyl read the op links and watch the vid your metabolism speeds up it doesnt slow. And when it does much later in a long fast its barerly noticeable.

>have not become keto adapted yet, but eating keto doesnt affect me
>day into my 3 day and I have brain fog

fucc

I FUCKING NEED A CIGARRETE WHY DID I QUIT LAST WEEK GOD WHY.
FASTING IS SO MUCH FUCKING EASIER IF YOU SMOKE HOLY SHIT.

>>42782105
have a jackoff marathon

>>42778332
Update: I just took a shit and it was great. Restart of fast right now

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On day 6 now. Got myself some of the good stuff to replace the plain kosher salt i was using along with some Gerolsteiner.

>>42774032
Who knows
The whole time during my 3 classes did it growl

I broke my fast after

>>42780740
what happen when day 7?

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If you do 16:8 IF with three meals in 8 hr can you still eat the same calories as normal and lose weight? Is it still calories in/calories out or is there ketosis magic? I am new to this and cannot find explanation.

>>42785172
READ AND WATCH THE FUCKING OP LINKS AND VIDEOS GOD FUCKING DAMNIT

anyways, you can get too many calories, I'm one that believs that CICO+IF if not throwing keto in additionally is the way to go. However, 16:8 does have use in lowering blood insulin and increasing insulin sensitivity, which plays a part in keeping weight on and how you digest and store your energy.

>>42785172
CICO still apllies but will burn more if IF and you only stay ketosis if no carb consumed

>>42785300
this

lost 20 pounds in 5 weeks doing CICO+IF+keto and a hell of a lot of walking

Going into day 10, still getting worse and worse nausea and brain fog especially towards the end of the day, how long into ketosis until this goes away?

I broke my 5 day fast yesterday and now I´m fucking ravenous.

Anyone else torturing themselves by watching shows about food while fasting?

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>>42786673
I don't think it's torture. I normally don't find videos or shows about food all that interesting, but after a few days of fasting they become extremely appealing.

>>42786716
I think it is. It makes me think about delicious food that I decided to forsake for some time. Its harder on willpower

On a 48hr fast atm, bout to hit the gym, just spent some time shitting out some vetting bullshit.

>>42786213
i think you already on ketosis on day 2 or 3

I take 1g of Evening Primrose Oil in a softgel 3 times a day, I plan on doing OMAD, am I right in thinking even one gram of fat in the morning is considered breaking fast?

Niggas. Never trust a fart. Not when in fasting, not in the first or second days. Never.

>>42779670
RCAF, avionics technician

>nofap
>noporn
>if

Can I do it, /fit/?

Also, will coffee, vaping(yea I'm a faggot) break my fast?

>>42788278
see >>42773765
you may have missed it

What cardio is better for long term fast. Walking or riding stationary bike?

Day 3 of water fast, this is pure suffering.

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What kind of meme is "fasting" if it's not purely no food water only fasting?

Oh look at me, I only ate x and y today, I'm fasting!

What the fuck are these people babbling about?

>>42788596
>cardio
>walking/biking

Pick one.

>tfw NEET hikki that regularly gets bored

Is it for me bros?

>>42773985
>alcohol
enjoy your bitch tits faggot

>>42780061
if hes doing it for weightloss, and it comes in under his daily cal then it's not really an issue.

sure it's not healthy, but i lost 50kg, by just swapping sugar soda to diet and not eating breakfast.

My goal wasnt health, it was a nicer body, now im skelly, and slowbulking , hitting all macros, gaining muscle but in terms of my diet it's still fucking horrid. Ive had more than a few people ask how ive lost weight and gained muscle with my diet.

information about healthy foods = weight loss is a meme, just eat less cals

>>42780115
What's CICO?

>>42787929
It's debated whether or not fat doesn't break the insulin response portion of fasts and neither do low amounts (<50) of calories. But most Doctors give it an okay. I would personally base the decision on what I want; I'm doing omad and 3-days for autophagy which is rather sensitive to any intake, and aside from exactly 2 fish oil capsules, I take nothing else during the day

>>42788278
Depends on what sweetener your juice is using, if it's non-sugar based, go for it.

So did christianity, judaism and islam actually get it right centuries ago with their fasting habits?

I went to a restaurant last night during my feeding window and it kick started a binge till my window was closed. I ate nonstop.

I'm going to fast for the weekend now to atone for my sins.

>>42789385
Are you only pretending?

>OP keeps using Steve for his pseudoscientific fad
Please stop.

>>42789180
Calories have nothing to do with weight and you can only lose weight by eating at certain times. Everybody who tells you otherwise is a LIAR

>>42791146
stop spreading this bullshit.

I'm an avid fasting anon and you need to quit with this whole "calories have nothing to do with weight"

Yes. Yes they do. if you consume more calories than your body uses then you will put on weight. Full stop.


But, we must concede that the CICO model is incomplete and doesn't take into account the two compartment model and hormones.

If you could somehow manage to shovel in 1,000 extra calories into your 4 hour eating window you will gain weight. The fact that you "fasted for 20 hours" doesn't mean shit when you've taken in more calories than you spend.

>>42791251
I was being sarcastic while recounting my experiences from reading these threads.

Guys my diet macros look like this; 60% protein, 35% fat, 5% carbs. Does this count as a ketogenic diet?

>>42791322
My apologies.

It's just the typical bullshit misinformed shitforbrains have about fasting they keep propagating.

Carry on, as you were

Day 6 lads, feeling real fucking weak

How do you guys break water fasts? I'd like to avoid having stomach so full it's hard to breathe for first 3 days after end of fast.

>>42791741
Watermelon

>>42791741
watermelone

>>42791326
no, protein is way to high, while it may be good for lifting, any excess protein over a percentage over what you need for your lean mass automatically gets converted to glucose if you're not fat adapted.

leangains should have better info on keto/fasting and bodybuilding though

>>42788278
>>Can I do it, /fit/?
You better have a busy schedule. It's hard to do all of that if there's nothing to do besides internet.

>>42789426
No, I'm pretty much you and it's hard to sustain. I wander around the house aimlessly while fasting.

>>42791326

It's great, not fantastic.. Keto stresses <5% carb, <20% Protein and 75% Fats

Day 7, Likely going to break it later today.

>>42774085
How bad was the struggle the first few days?

>>42792099
hope you got some light fruit ready

>>42791741
watermelon

>>42792414
I have apples

>>42789818
I've been all-day vaping Yakult-flavored e-liquid that tastes godly but gunks the coils easily. Am I clear?

If not, I'll switch back to the iced blueberry during the fast.

juicer broke so I blended an apple with equal parts water then strained and drank it. Going to wait 2 hours before trying to eat a small apple. Is that going too quickly for a 7 day break?

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Talked to some crossed eyed nigger loving bitch on a dating site once.

Gave her some advice on how to loose weight.

Told her to start fasting

asked her later did you start

she replied i need to go grocery shopping before I start my diet

>tfw nigger loving bitches are actually retarded.

MREbrah is the best

>>42786763
Then stop fucking watching them holy fuck

>about to start 23:1 fasting again


wish me luck gentlemen

>>42786673
Bizarre Foods is the best fasting show.

>>42792406
I wanted to quit day 3-4 because I constantly felt nauseous. I stuck with it and started feeling better. Now I no longer have an appetite but I do feel extremely weak and dizzy at times

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>>42794983
it's easy, just make the one meal big and rewarding, I start with a massive medditerreanean salad, move to eggs and bacon, then finnish off with steak and avacado

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First time hitting the gym with three days of fasting under my belt. I am feeling so fucking good, energized and euphoric like every cell in my body is a penis and all of them are hard as diamonds.

Holy fuck.

Dr. Jason re-tweeted an alt-right twitter is he /our guy/?

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>>42795809

Fasting all day tomorrow. Prayers and tips appreciated

>>42795850
take refeeding seriously even for a small fast

A girl and her friend just invited me over to her place for drinks but Im only halfway through my fast
What do I do bros

>>42796557
what does halfway mean, how many days/hours has it been?

German monks in the old days did beer fast by the way

>>42796564
>German monks in the old days did beer fast by the way
please tell me why on earth you would post this?
>fatass's on tumblr go on cake fasts by the way

>>42796593
because he is considering drinking during his fast

>>42796627
ya but thats a complete joke. A beer fast is not a fast at all. its pure carbs and is horrible for you. Thats why i said that cake thing its completely stupid. If he wants to break it thats fine but dont give him false hope as if hes still fasting cause he 100% isnt.

>>42796689
Of course it will negatively impact it but not as bad as cake would. If he's on a short fast its kind of a moot point anyway, if he's 7 days into a 14 day fast I would be advising him to resist.

>>42796557
eat some protein and carbs and go over there.

dont miss out on a good opportunity because of this.

also dont just drink in a fast youll get hammered FAST

>>42796852
why are you fucking faggots doing such long fasts.

Just do intermittent fasting. Look up Martin Berkharn and leangains.

You fast for 16 hours, eat for 8 hours.

simple.

>>42796856
better autophagy

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>>42796856
this >>42796935
also a 3 day kills all your old immune system cells and replaces them with squeaky clean new ones

>>42796993
link the science or youre a lying obese cuck

>>42797127
>he didn't read the op

>>42797157
youtube and dietdoctor.com arent fucking legit sources you beta cunt.

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>>42797170

I'm going to be starting OMAD sometime soon. Which means I'll most likely be working fasted. Should I dial back workout intensity?

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>Day 6
>still not feeling godmode

Hoping it kicks in by Sunday lads, If I still feel like this or worse on Sunday I'm ending it. I can hardly stand I feel so tired

>>42797269
Working out fasted

>>42797275
Im going into day 11 and only now does it start to feel better, day 6 and 7 are tge worst tho

>>42798192
I am thinking next time I try this I go keto for 2 weeks beforehand

>>42796557
LIGHT WEIGHT BABY

>>42777170
>>42777052

Have you ever done a long fast?

All you really need is a bit of salt. He will be fine. Going 30+ days is when you need to be more careful

>>42796856
why are you doing short fasts you dopey cunt? Theres no downside to going longer, and you get your results quicker

>>42797275
Day 5 here, having the same problem. First two days were fine, felt nauseous on day 3 and 4. The nausea is gone now but I still feel weak. Hope it will improve.

>>42800072
Are you taking your salt and your vitamin D? Day 3 here and I feel absolutely fine.

>>42774032
don't drink water,it's the only way but you're gonna feel like utter shit

Can I drink water mixed with one blended lemon during a water fast?

>>42800316
Why not?I think if you eat <50kcal you're in the fasted state but sounds like memeing to me

>>42800316
Nigga, how hard is for to understand that fasting = don't fucking eat. If it has kcal, don't fucking eat it. If it is a fucking fruit, don't eat it, or drink the juice, or put it inside your ass, don't even fucking touch it.

Gods.

>>42800405
im just getting bored of water and coffee

>>42800316

why would you drink literal acid water and destroy your teeth like that

>>42800435
Get lacroix my dude

>>42800573
looks like a meme brand to me

>>42800737
its not
>>42800573
my nigga

get coconut lemon or lime

>>42800760
Alright ill try it

>>42800435
Bone broth

>>42800435
Is there a reason you fast?Do you multi-day fast or just if?

IF is a meme if you ask me,multiday fasting is the real shit and you won't lose much muscle even NOT on gear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIuj-oMN-Fk

Watch this,pretty informative

>>42800779
at worst you waste 5 dollars, tip though make sure its ice cold. As it warms it taste like shit for sure. The colder the better and its refreshing as hell.

Just did 14 days before Labor Day.

1) keep your electrolytes (salts) in check. You need shit like Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium, etc... or you'll feel like shit. Take this in pill form or drink some bone broth.

2) Every time you fast this changes. You'll feel less shitty each fast when your body depletes its glycogen reserves... and switches over into keto. Doing some workouts for the first few days will help you SLAM into keto and get on with it.

3) I worked my way up to 14 days so far, felt like shit on day 7ish, then started taking supplements and felt fine. When I did a 10 day fast I felt like shit on day 5/6 and didn't have supps. I took some Manzanilla olive oil and felt fine. See point 1, if you don't keep your electrolytes in check you'll feel like shit... listen to your body.

I'm down 40 lbs in the last two months.

Is coffee acceptable for a fast? Curbs appetite and is basically just dirt water. Or does the caffeine fuck with whatever you're attempting to do?

>>42800797
>IF is a meme if you ask me

If you're skinny already then IF on like an 8/16 hour cycle is fine for maintaining insulin sensitivity, and there are also longevity benefits. If you're a fat fuck your metabolism and hormones are fucked and 16 hours won't be enough time to knock your insulin down enough to tap into body fat, you'll just feel like shit. You can do the 8/16 on a low carb keto diet plan, but you need carbs to get the most out of the gym so its too difficult of a balancing act for people that have no idea how to eat. That in combination with fat fucks being sedentary and they'll never get into keto or deplete their glycogen reserves.

A better alternstive is Alternate Daily Fasting because it extends the fasting window, and lifting because you'll be giving your body what it needs to build muscle only on days when you work out.

M/W/F: Eat during 6-8 hour window
30 minutes before gym, take some protein. Work out 1-2 hours however long it takes... then go home and eat. Workouts should only be Lifting and HIIT, fuck extended low intensity cardio... it's the worst for fat fucks because your fat body puts too much stress on your joints (and also cardio kills gains, duh).

T/R/S/S: Water fast, rest and recover from the gym. Don't fucking eat. Don't try to space out your water throughout the day... drink it when you get hungry to address pangs.

STOP BEING FAT

Even better fasting schedule to work up to for fat fucks. Fast 5 days eat 2 days, or 6/1...

>>42801032
>>42773765

>>42801032
Don't drink it all day, but a cup in the morning won't fuck you up completely. Black coffee has been shown to feed bad gut bacteria, which you don't wanna do. On a long term fast especially, you'll be killing a lot of that gut bacteria, both good and bad. If you're drinking coffee dialy you'll keep alive the shitty bacteria while the good bacteria that doesn't use it dies off. You end up with a big gut bacteria imbalance that you have to then later correct with eating a lot of fermentable fibers (greens, mushrooms, complex carbs). Not permanent damage, but most people won't know what is wrong or how to fix it.

>>42801112
>Black coffee has been shown to feed bad gut bacteria
100% untrue. Source now
The exact opposite si true, coffee has been shown to induce and increase autophagy and suppress appetite.
Drink 4 cups a day no problem.

>>42801230
Ok
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uF0FhGzroS4

>>42801329
tl:dr
>increases H.Pylori
>Reduces HCL production
>weakens mucosal layers in stomach

>>42801329
>>42801442
???????????
Not a single thing about coffee was mentioned you moron. I knew about gut health, im saying cite where coffee affects it you dumb faggot.

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>2 hours away from the end of your 3 day
>thinking about the delcious meal you're going to have is giving you an erection

gonna break the fast with 2 eggs, then have the meal about an hour after, wish me luck

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>>42773985

Damn, brehs. I really want to get into fasting due to the benefits.

Whenever I try it, even if it's just having several days of 16:8, I turn grumpy, hangry and significantly less focused. I suspect i'm rather carb-heavy and maybe I need to cut down on carbs first?

My blood is fine according to doctors in terms of minerals, electrolytes, blood pressure and blood sugar. This really activates my almonds.

>>42778083
maybe try taking probiotics as well

>>42804964
I'm surprised you feel bad at all, 16:8 is super easy.

How many carbs in grams do you eat per day?
I would suggest lowering it to under 120 at most or to just do keto at 30-50g per fay

>>42774308
You're right, this is a stupid question.

>>42774700
Are you fucking stupid? Stop fasting, you don't deserve the benefits.

Need answers

>be 240lbs at about 40% bf (aka fat as fuck and look way heavier than 240llbs)
>now 167lbs and still look about 34% bf but have spaghetti arms
>still fat as fuck

What the fuck do I do? Do I lose more weight? I can't gain muscle without eating like a pig either.

>>42789760
Calories in, calories out.

>>42805161
Go to the doctors and get a hormone panel. Check your T levels.

After some research, I'm gonna try some "long" fasting periods 2-3 days at a piece. How many times a month/year would you recommend this? I heard 4x a year but I'm looking to cut quite a bit more fat (as that appears to be for health/maintenance, not heavy fat cutting)

>>42805471
Would say once a month if you can manage it, if you're concerned about sustained fat loss I would recommend intermittent fasting or keto though. If you go keto, 2-3 day fasts will be very easy (especially with things like ephedrine)

>>42805626
I've just found my way into a very comfortable deficit eating life (1,8-2k), and would prefer to maintain that. Thats why I'd like to do the more "extreme" form of 3 day fasts than change my daily food diet again. If that makes sense.

>>42802825
Good call anon. Eating a large meal to break a fast can throw you into a binge.

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Can someone give me a quick run down on how fasting and autophagy affect loose skin?

I don't have that MUCH loose skin, but I'm not as tight as I'd like to be. I have about 20 more pounds to lose and I'm about to go on a 12 day water fast or so.

Does KETO or PSMF give the same benefits to "eating" loose skin as I've heard?

>>42805161
Lift. I'm 215 and can guarantee I look better than you because of my noobie gains. Lift at least three times a week.

>>42805704
no, autophagy is uniqe to fasting, while keto can boost it, only OMAD (by a small amount) or extended 3+ day water fasting+coffee can help encourage autophagy to the level where loose skin will not be a concern for you

I'd suggest perhaps OMAD or 5:2 first, OMAD has been great for reducing my acne scars

>>42805853
To add to this previous post: don't puss out after a couple of weeks. Get excited for your lifts. I can't wait until Monday because it means I get to lift again. Every week. For years.

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>finish 18 hours
>eat
>just want to sleep

every time

>>42805891
Haircut could be nicer but cute otherwise.

Is it possible to bulk while IF for that demn fat loss and mind benefits?

>>42805918
definitely "possible", but are you a regular weight just want more muscle or are you a supreme skelly who is desperate to put on weight?

>>42806028
supreme desperate skelly
also pothead that wants to flush thc from its blood

>>42806124
ok it almost definitely wont work then. You cant even bulk normally, almost no chance you can bulk in an even smaller time window. In theory yes it will work im just saying chacnes are you cant stick to it.

>>42806189
the problem is that i have to eat 3.5k calories and damn after the first 1k meal its hard to feed more cuz my stomach is super bloated

Niggas, I am taking vit C effervescent and each one has, like, 8 kcal. Taking three of them every day will break my fast or is negligible? I am on my fourth day now.

>>42806306
You have to keep it under 50. Careful with the fish oil but why do you need so much vit C?

>>42806272
i beleive you which is why trying to do all that in a small eating window will be all that much harder.

i've done IF before, once for like a year straight

thinking about doing one of these water fasts because i've done all-day fasts before and notice I immediately start dropping weight after 24 hours

i'm 5' 9" and 170 lbs. want to get down to 150 but I've seen medical advice that says fasting beyond maybe two or three days is absolutely retarded

>>42806356
yeah gonna drop this idea
will bulk like a motherfucker then i will do if + keto and become god mode
thanks

>>42806383
>I've seen medical advice that says fasting beyond maybe two or three days is absolutely retarded
no you havent

>>42800873
>I took some Manzanilla olive oil
you realize this is filled with calories right

>>42806397
yes i have

>>42806349
It's not very much, each capsule has 500mg, I try to maintain the intake around 1.5g daily. I don't like salads and never eat fruit, so if something like that can boost my immune system and is cheap, I will take it.

>>42806421
no you literally havent. Anything youve seen was a meme blog post or some nonsense because all the research shows its ok. So anything is fake news.

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you guys ever do an ECA stack while fasting?

do i have to do any prep for fasting? like taper off food or something?

would eating a bunch of candy and drinking alcohol tonight be an exceptionally bad idea if my plan is to fast for ~48 - 56 hours after i go to bed?


im 210, 6'0, workout or play basketball 6 times a week if that helps

>>42806424
I mean they're water soluble so you piss out what you don't need but I only take 500 mg a day. For me a cruciferous vegetable supplement is more important but I smoke and Sulforaphane is more important with all my other vitamins as it cuts cancer by 52%.

>>42806430
yes i have. stay angry

>>42806450
I used to do this but your body gets used to it and it doesn't cause any additional fat loss beyond maybe week 2. it's also dangerous and not worth it because it can prevent you from sleeping

>>42806469
>yes i have. stay angry
no you havent. stay angry

>>42806485
but i have

>>42806469
>it's also dangerous

how?

and what were your results within those 2 weeks?

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Thank you guys for making these threads, they keep motivating to go through my fasts

So if I take about 20kcal in the morning of vits that should be fine, I am doing OMAD with my meal being in the evening.

>>42806570
The vitamins won't trigger you out of ketosis but it might trigger a metabolic response. Probably not. Maybe not.

>>42796522

Do you even know what refeeding syndrome is?

>>42806511

Bruh, if fasting for 3 days was 'dangerous' then our species would have 'fucking died' somewhere during the 'nomadic era' when we'd go multiple days without eating while still needing to be able to have the energy to get hike for miles just to get food.

Dial that brain in, friendo.

>>42805866

But I'm asking if it can GET RID of loose skin bro.

>>42807271
Autophagy occurs any time the body is in a fasted state, even overnight you'll get some autophagy. The other moron telling you that you need to fast for 3 days to instantiate it is flat out wrong.

If you have loose skin I would suggest two days of fasting per week non-consecutive to start out with.

Consume a +500 calorie surplus on the feeding days to help offset weight loss if you're not intending to lose weight.

After a few months you should start seeing improvements. It is unlikely that you'll ever see a complete tightening of the skin, but you will see something.

>>42807361

What else can I do to tighten my skins up breh?

fuggg Anons
Fasting + ECA is a fucking cheat code for fat loss, why did i listen to CICO faggots for so long.

>>42807213
all I am saying is I was on the shitter with intense pain after breaking only a 48 hour fast

>>42807919
I asked about it earlier here >>42806450 and got this >>42806469 as a response. Are his criticisms correct? What was your experience and tell me about your progress please.

Have any of you experienced refeeding syndrome? How bad was it?

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>that first SOLID shit after days of fasting
Feels good.

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>>42805121

Ow... my feelings...
But I'd genuinely like to know, though. I lurk here from time to time but never noticed a pic of steve before. Maybe I'm not observant enough. Can I get more information? Thank you!

>>42808257
I should be getting one soon, looking forward to it

>>42808036
i haven't finished so I can't give you a full debrief but here are some of my takeaways. I've done multiple 3-5 day fasts before, I'm on hour 72 of my first fast w/ ECA. I've been on ECA for about 3 weeks now.

Pros
> good energy supplementation rather than relying on the faster's "high", which I don't really get
> additional fat burning
> appetite suppression, great for getting through the first 5 days of hunger

Cons
> Blood Pressure can go up if I don't remember to take a baby aspirin or space my dosages properly. Ephedrine is a vasoconstrictor so definitely don't do any cardio
> Desensitization is real. I try to take a day off each week to keep that in mind. I don't get withdrawals too badly but it's not fun
> acid reflux can be pretty nasty taking all this shit on an empty stomach

Basically, combining the two has exacerbated the cons of going on ECA but negated the cons of fasting while synergizing the fat loss effects. After this i'm going to cycle off ECA for a long time. In the future, I will heavily consider using ECA to help get through the initial hunger days of a fast.

>>42809177
as for sleep, I've found as long as I take my dose before 4 PM I'm fine. Any time after and I swear i'm up until 5 AM

>>42805866
>water fasting+coffee
do I have to drink the coffee?I hate coffee

>>42809711
no, just do water

>>42809177
What is your daily dosage of ephedrine? I used ECA for a long time when I was a fat fuck, but never in a fast.

Can autophagy fix scars and skin moles?

>>42809177
thanks for sharing

>>42773765
>DeLauer videos

Oil snake seller.

Ive been doing 20/4 IF since January and the results are pretty meh if existant at all. I want to do a 7 day fast. Do you think I can just jump into since ive een doing 20/4 for so long as is or should i try a shorter one first

>>42810902
My first fast was 10 days long

>>42810902
what do you eat

>>42811073
Whatever i want within my macros. I always start with some protein powder and milk at work then when I get home i cook my meal

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>IF 19:5
>eat at noon and 5pm.
>4th day in

This is the first morning I've been super hungry physically, not mentally though. I'm doing this after a 4 day refeed following a 10 day water fast.

>ate some "Planters Peanut Butter Chocolate Trail Mix"

That was a big mistake. It felt like I was passing a broken-glass impregnated Brillo pad through my lower intestine. Like actual damage and it still hurts a little, but it is getting better. It wasn't constipation. It was whatever parts of the peanuts and candy coating that didn't get digested. The only other time in my life I've had that happen was with, "Peanuthead Boston Baked Beans Candy Coated Peanuts".

>there are no atheists in foxholes or on toilets

>>42797275
>>42798192
>>42798199
>>42800072
Day 6 was my last day for not feeling good. Day 7 I felt normal, but bored. Prior to the fast, I would get tired at 2pm-4pm and need a nap most days. During the fast that went away completely. Eating again brought me off that "high" and actually made me hate being so tied to food to live because it makes me feel like shit 90% of the time regardless of what I'm eating.

>>42810902
Read up on proper refeeding for a long fast then go for it. Remember your salts/minerals.

>>42773765
Should I fast even if not overweight?
I'm 5'5'' and about 140lbs
The end goal would be to be able to fast 40 days during lent

>>42811267
You need about 1 pound of body fat per day when fasting. You will be using your fat stores for this. If you are not overweight, you may get 2 weeks max without dying. But, that's going to be fucking extreme.

What is your current BMI?

>>42811287
23.5, I would describe myself as skinnyfat

>>42811297
If you approach 14 BMI then you are getting into dangerous territory; also skeleton mode. I would get a physical and have them give you an accurate health assessment and % body fat amount.

I've lived my entire life on trash and recently changed that. I've dropped 60 pounds since may, and I've got ~30ish before I'm where I'd like to be. I'm trying to fast mostly for the loose skin and the detox (I don't expect a miracle, but I expect a little improvement), but Christ this is a nightmare.

I'm on day 6 and I intend to go to at least day 21, and I feel not the slightest inclination to give up now, but how the hell do people do this?

It's been headaches, near blackouts, constant nasal drainage, nausea, a flipflop from crippling depression and euphoria, and I feel so weak.

As I said I'm going to power through this, otherwise I might as well resign to mediocrity. But is there any way to make this more bearable?

>>42811721
Drink loads of water and coffee. Supplement electrolytes.

>>42811721
Refeed


If you're experiencing all those symptoms then simply eat something and try again.

The fact that you're getting "near blackouts" is extremely disconcerting and should be cause for alarm. This could indicate all sorts of problems, the primary being low blood pressure.

Unless you have presentation of some symptomology related to metabolic syndrome then you should not be trying to fast for 21 fucking days in the first place.

You're on /fit/ so you should be lifting hard and heavy. And you can't do that on an extended fast.

I have no idea why this moron of an OP is shilling for such extended fasts for everyone but it's counter-productive for a muscle development mindset.

If you want to get the benefits of fasting then simply do IF16:8 and toss in one or two days of non-consecutive fasting. You'll get all of the benefits with no side effects like you're describing and on top of it all you can still lift and exercise regularly. And even if you eat a 500 calorie surplus on your feeding days and fast for 2 days of the week you can still put on significant lean mass while controlling your fat.

>>42811721
>headaches
>near blackouts

You need electrolytes like right now. Take a multi-vitamin and eat some salt in your water. Drink more water, but only with salt. You are both dehydrated and lacking in electrolytes. Have you been having muscle cramps?

>>42811973
I don't drink coffee, but I guess i'll give it a try.

>>42812090
Maybe "near blackouts" was a little more senstational than it should have been. As far as I can tell it's just low blood pressure, and if I'm careful standing up I don't have an issue.

It was mainly a problem a few times when I started out and I jumped up like I'm used to doing and felt extremely dizzy.

No muscle cramps.

I don't think I'm dehydrated considering the amount of water I'm drinking (way more than usual, and I always drink a ton). I look into some vitamins and add salt.

>>42812136
>I don't drink coffee, but I guess i'll give it a try.
calm down dude. Its not a life changing activity its just a cup of coffee. Drink it black obviously.

>>42812136
>I don't think I'm dehydrated considering the amount of water I'm drinking (way more than usual, and I always drink a ton).

This is the biggest problem with fasting. You drink 2 gallons of water and piss out what feels like 3 gallons of water. The reason you are dehydrated and piss out so much is specifically because you need salt and other electrolytes. You actually become more dehydrated with the increase of water intake without those things. They are also what causes your headaches. Your brain will start to swell and you can die. This has happened on many occasions and is pretty sad considering all you need to prevent it is some salt.

Also, you don't need coffee for anything.

>>42812156
I wasn't suggesting it was, I was simply saying "I usually don't drink coffee, but sure." And of course, no sugar.

>>42812177
>>42812177
the trick to enjoying black coffee is breweing it yourself and doing it correctly. Getting good beans makes a big difference as well.

>>42812175
I'm aware too much water is terrible, when I wasn't fasting I just drank when I was thirsty, and maybe a little more not to waste a glass. Now I'm trying to drink a little more than that to try and boost my blood pressure and help flush things out.

As I said, I'll up my electrolytes, see if it helps.

What's really bothering me is the mood swings,
I feel happy-go-lucky in the morning and before I go to sleep, but the middle of the day I can't bring myself to sit up on, let alone get out of bed.

>>42812270
Oh, I'm sure. Good ingredients and proper preparation is paramount for anything.

I just simply never picked up the habit of coffee, is all. I used to drink on dates with my ex but I never felt that I wanted to just for the sake of it.

>>42812309
>mood swings

That should level out. Just make sure there's nothing at all that you are "accidentally" eating which is making your insulin levels spike. Like chewing gum or something.

>>42812175
>Also, you don't need coffee for anything
this is mis leading. You dont "need" it but it helps with energy, supress appetite, and increases autphagy.

>>42812327
That isn't misleading. Also, headaches are a symptom of caffeine withdraw and that anon said he doesn't drink caffeine. Thus, no need for coffee to help with headaches.

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What exactly is godmod?
It's just eufory?

>>42794983
For how long?

>>42812319
I hope so, I've heard it stops around day 8-11, that belief is partly why I intend to power through.

I've had nothing but water and toothpaste (and I've been rising my mouth thoroughly until I can't taste it anymore).

>>42812357
Yes it is. I just listed all the ways coffee helps a fast go smoothly.
>headaches
People get headahces for loads of reasons dude. Unless you are a serious addict and have been for a long time you wont be getting withdrawl headaches.
>>42812402
No electrolytes???

>>42794160
Always shew that bitsh alot and make it juice with your teeths.

>>42812419
I didn't say I was a smart man.

I've tried salt before in a previous ~4 day fast I ended for social reasons, but I felt it didn't really help considering I felt the same way the first 4 days of this one, so I neglected it this time... I guess I shouldn't have.

>>42812457
do it correctly. Maybe you werent taking enough? Maybe you werent also getting potassium and magnesium? The more info you read about this stuff the better.

>>42812419
>Unless you are a serious addict and have been for a long time you wont be getting withdrawl headaches.

1 cup a day can do that for some people. It can also be compounded if you are a soda drinker too.

>>42812521
>It can also be compounded if you are a soda drinker too
dude we're fasting. And the withdrawl has nothing at all to do with this discussion. I am suggesting he actually drink it not try to quit so why would he be getting withdrawls?

>>42812570
Are you feeling okay? Because your mental faculties are lacking right now. Maybe you are a phone poster and can't properly follow the discussion? People who drink coffee and soda who then start fasting will be more apt to have caffeine withdrawal.

Also, it was ruled out because he wasn't drinking it. Then you come in and sperg out.

>>42812618
>Also, it was ruled out because he wasn't drinking it
exactly you idiot thats why when you said
>Also, headaches are a symptom of caffeine withdraw and that anon said he doesn't drink caffeine
No one knew what you meant.
then your stupidity continued to rise when you said
>Thus, no need for coffee to help with headaches
I never said to drink coffee to help with headaches.
Feel free to stop posting.

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>>42812357
>>42812521
>>42812618

>>42812689
>being this autistic

WEW

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>>42812716

>>42812716
just so you know these 2>>42812710
>>42812730
are laughing at you with me.
You fucked up and i pointed it out now youre buthurt so you call me autistic to cope.
WEW LAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPtQFI4qeoE

What the longest fast you have achieved? I need some motivation to start, also what workouts do you do and do you take anything for said workouts.

>>42777603
Everybody knows Steve
Steve is Cool
We're worried about Steve cause he lives in Tampa

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Starting a alternate day fast
( basically , fasting when i don't do any sport , so 4 day fast , 3 eat )
I'll post here my résult once a week , going from 158lbs and going to fast until sub130lbs
( to be very lean )
AMA i guess

>>42813137
11 days on a water fast, didn't do any exercise though, still lost 30lbs so that was gud.
I'm on my 2nd day out of maybe 15, good luck anon.

Gonna start a water fast in the morning, my first fast of two days had pretty good effects (permanently dropped about 4 kgs)
I'm going to start with the coffee to kick up autophagy, then go to local outdoors gym for some upper body training (my arms/chest are horribly weak compared to legs) to lose more calories and speed up autophagy. I'm not going about salt and multivitamins for later days.

>>42813908
*>I'm not going to forget about salt and multivitamins for later days.

>>42813747
Do you have to eat food? because ive done it before without food and i feel its a lot easier. Also would doing more that 2 months pushing it? (btw im 240 rn)

>>42814157
>water fast
>with food
You wot mate?