/fat/ - "something clever" editon

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STOP EATING

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>>42342056
>tfw go to a bed a little hungry

is that how you know its working?

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>>42342056
fasting today. woke up 5 hours ago and my tummy won't shut up already

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>tfw hungry

>>42342098
You know it's working when you wake up after going to bed hungry that you aren't hungry anymore and you have to eat for energy and not for some blind addiction to carbohydrates needed to give you satisfaction.

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FAT CUNT WHO JUST BOUGHT CREATINE WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IT IS OR WHAT IT DOES REPORTING IN

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>tfw you look ugly regardless being fat or skinny
There goes my motivation.

>>42342149
Isn't that for gaining weight?

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>>42342165
I know that feel

>>42342149
nice gyno, fag

>>42342165
I remember a time on fit when people didn't care if they were ugly as long as they were shredded and ugly.

>>42342172
Fuck knows lmao

>>42342185
atleast you're not a chinlet unlike me
>>42342188
I care more losing weight for aesthetics than getting fit.

>>42342186
It's probably all the chemicals they put in the water, or more likely chicken wings

>>42342207
What the fuck is a chinlet hahaha

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>>42342220
no bully pls

>>42342255
Is that actually you?

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>2lbs away from goal weight
>decide to have one more day of gluttony before fall courses start
>wake up 8lbs heavier
I know it's mostly water weight, but it was still quite a shock to see the difference. From what I can piece together, I ate well over 10,000 calories yesterday. The destruction in the kitchen indicates it was mostly sugary baked shit, bread, and booze. Friend said I even vomited and went back to eat again afterwards. God have mercy on my soul.

im gonna make some fresh pop corn with no oil a little bit of salt and a pepsi max, you guys cool with that or no

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>>42342328
I know that feel

Pic related

>>42342255
Nice try goblin

>>42342098
I feel full after eating 1500 calories. Just gotta eat the right foods high in protein

>>42342333
make sure you read the nutrition label on popcorn very carefully, I thought i was eating 150 cals but ended up with 300

>>42342370
we're talking fresh raw kernels, organic even

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>>42342220
>What the fuck is a chinlet
A person who lacks chins obviously. Not me but my chin looks similar from profile view.

fat fucks

>>42342517
how you doing today chad

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> tfw been stagnating on approx. 67,5~9kg for two weeks, 176cm's tall eating about 1500 calories

just lowered it to 1300, it should have an effect on this shitty plateau

>>42342552
Don't do that you will get hungry then get cravings and stuff you face

God damn. Time moves slowly when big.
I have no ambition or distractions. All I mentally do every day is a combination of eating and not eating.
I'm not watching a movie for watching a movie, but watching a movie to not eat. I can't focus on anything since I think of food, or eating. Even if it's a "healthy" snack. It's not healthy when you eat 1.5kg in grapes...

Eating and masturbating. Great life.

>>42342734
>I can't focus on anything since I think of food, or eating
Same. Since losing weight i havent realized how much focus i've been putting on food related matters.

>>42342517
Thank you

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CONFESS

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>>42342792
I've had 6 slices of bacon four slices of bread and two Bakewell tarts and now I'm about to have an all night bender with the lads

>>42342792
I faked sick just to avoid the GoT feast party my stack of friends were having yesterday

I DON'T WANT TO BE FAT ANYMORE

is it true that at the gym manlets come up to you and say you breath too loud?

>>42342861
its not too late to turn back brah. you can at least minimize damage dude.

>>42342792
Woke up and had a bowl of cereal. Idk why but i craved it so hard, wasn't even umhealthy and didn't throw off my diet but it's on my banned list

>>42342885
I actually want to spark out manlets

>>42342910
Fuck that I'm getting laid tonight lad and I'm meeting her at a club after drinks at this pub with my mates it's gonna be a messy night

>>42342872
Should've just gone and not had little or nothing to eat, autismo. Or can you literally not control yourself around food?

>>42342935
they had wings, pizza, chinese, steaks, burgers, fries, pies, and everything bad. I'm still early in the cut and I have been seeing great results and I have been fat too long. I'm just sick of it.

>>42342734
it gets better with time, also either get a job or a hobby.

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>>42342910
It's too late

>>42342968
I have a "welfare-job" - it's like I'm employed, except the government pays my income rather then the company (which happens to be an instance of the government too).
It's nothing to do there, but wander around and look stupid since there are 5 people working there.
Hobbies are worse. I struggle with focus and "joy". It gives me nothing. As watching a movie gives me nothing apart from some flashy colors and some dialogue I can occationally follow. I would rather have a pizza and a beer.

All my life has more or less been passively being told what to do. I lack the ambition and internal drive to do anything. Add in anxiety and depression, and you have recipe for a shitshow. No company wants to pay the salary for a guy that needs a supervisor or someone to constantly tell him how to do it, while also struggle to do said tasks. So ending up paying 2 salaries for the work of half a person when they can hire Chad and pay 1 salary for 1 person.

Captcha takes 5 minutes to solve. Great..

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>>42342792

i only confess to the real /fat/her

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Anyone here just swimming for fat loss? How is it? Do you find you get hungry as hell more often? I'm about to start swimming on the regular.

>>42342935
>Or can you literally not control yourself around food?
What kind of thread do you think this is skeleton?

>>42343144

Swimming makes me hungry as fuck, even more than other cardio.
I feel like if i burn 500 kcal from cardio, i get hungry for like 2000 kcal it sucks.

>>42342552

What are you trying to achieve? That is already skeletal mode

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Just wanted to let you all know that I've been lurking for months now without posting and y'all give me hope. This is my three month progress photo, and I owe my inspiration in part to you guys.

Still a long ways to go, but we're all gonna make it brahs

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>>42343144
I did swimming only for five months 6 days a week. You will lose weight but unless you do basic lifting and eat 150+ protein a day you won't get shredded, I got stuck at skinny fat for the longest time. Had sweet shoulders though.

What are some good snacks for when you're too busy to eat during the day?

>>42343170
I'm 95KG m80. If you can't look at shitty food laid before you and say "no thanks" you are never going to make it.

>>42343201
You're looking really good! Pose and lighting helps but your tummy is looking so much better, stats?

long story short, I read somewhere that whey protein can help increase glutathione. I'm trying to supplement it because my levels are low, and if it comes easily through whey protein, that'd be helpful, however the info I can find online is about specialized whey protein brands made by doctors for people with toxicity issues. Anybody have the rundown on commercial bodybuilding whey protein's glutathione content?

>>42343216
Nuts, sliced vegetables with hummus, protein bar.

>>42343171
I've heard similar. This should be interesting.

>>42343211
Damn skinny fat. I was hoping I would at least end up slim and firm.

Can I get away with just doing some push ups and sit ups/Ab wheel to failure now and then to prevent the skinny fat?

>>42343272
Why don't you invest in some dumbbells to do some strength exercises at home if you're not wanting to do that at a gym?

>eat 770 cals day before last
>skipped dinner for sex
>worth it
>be starving yesterday
>eat 1540 cal
>240 over cut but still 330 below maintenance
>gain a lb
I know it's food weight but it's stilldepressing.

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I hate eating veggies because I have the palate of a child.

Are there any recipes that makes them taste good/ bearable?

>>42343288
The problem was space at my place. There is space for dumbbells which I didn't think of. But wouldn't I also need a bench is I go that route? Or could I get by without one and somehow have a balanced routine?

-push ups
-rows
-ohp
-goblets
-rdl

Something like that could work with just two adjustable dumbbells?

>>42343229
>95kg
lmao you can barely be considered a grown man fairyboy

>>42343249

Thank you! 3 months so far -

Height: 6'1"
Starting Weight: 244 lbs
Current Weight: 200 lbs

I know I've probably lost muscle as well, but so far I'm pretty happy with the progress. Would also love to get any estimates on bf% in both the before and after pics to gauge that as well! Can also post my routine (no lifting) and diet if people want.

>>42343201
you really weren't even fat to begin with. You weren't even wide, just had a beer gut. Nice job losing it though

Reminder: Lack of discipline is an excuse for being fat. Being fat is not an excuse for lack of discipline.

>>42343319
Cut whatever vegetable you have - squash, carrot, bell-pepper, onion, corn, peas or what else into thin sticks (obviously not for peas and corn and alike).
Warm a little bit of oil at high heat and pour them in there. Stir often and add spices and tastes as you please.
Stuff them in a tortilla with some chicken, tuna, scrambled egg and bacon, or minced meat or cut pork chops whatever. Anything goes. Put some parmesan for taste on it and a dash of delicious quark and eat.

It's generally my go to way of having vegetables as a side. I also recommend the general Italian way of treating them. Onion, bell peppers, carrots, celery in small pieces (or big if you like that) on low heat getting them moist and good. Add tomato sauce and spices. Use oregano and bassilikum for godlike pizza-sauce, or use cumin for a base for your "taco". Add meat if you want.
Serve accordingly.

>>42342255
>>42342299
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/File:Lmfaochinny.jpg

>bought some meat at grocery store
>Open one to make lunch
>Every single package has gone off

THAT WAS MY FOOD FOR MOST OF THIS WEEK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>42342655
i have enough willpower and i'm doing omad.

>>42343189
ultra ripped mode, get completely rid of my love handles for summer. after beach season is over i plan on eating 1700-2000 and see how it goes.

will post results in a week or two

>pack of pork rinds
>pack of chicken breast fillets
>one egg
>salt
>pepper

crush up the pork rinds in the bag with a rolling pin
stir up the egg
cut the chicken breasts into strips
sprinkle some salt and pepper on them
mix them so the salt and pepper cover them evenly
take chicken breasts one at a time
dip it in the egg
dip it into the crushed up pork rinds
put them all on a baking tray with parchment paper
cook in the oven for like 15 or 20 minutes (guessing based on what i did, probably takes less time but i don't take risks with chicken)
take the tray out of the oven
sprinkle more pepper, more salt

tada. best keto chicken tendies i ever had. they even take a little southern fried, even though they were only baked and not fried. really crispy coating from the pork rinds. and barely any carbs. definitely recommend.

>>42342440
I'd be more worried about that nose than the chin desu

>>42343691
Nose might a bit too big but you're going to notice lack of chin right away. Besides there are no attractive chinlets.

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Good day today. My rowing gains aren't tracking for some reason but I hit my calorie goal.

I did have a beer though, I meant to have it the other day but didn't get around to it.

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I HAVE TO BE NORMAL I NEED TO BE NORMAL

>>42342792
I ate an ice cream sandwich because I was bored.

>>42343357
How much were you cutting?

Tfw steady drop to 213 then suddenly back at 220 and plateauing.
Weeks of progress. Gone. Maybe i'll drop back down soon.

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I ate an ice cream, stay jelly

>>42344150
I ate a whole tub on Saturday nigga get on my level

;_;

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For the anon who wanted to see my progress from the last thread. Here's the pic taken from this morning.

215~ to 165.

Slowly getting there.

>>42344150
this gif triggers me. i wanna throw a heavy brick through her confident "im a hot girl" smile

>>42344162
You're losing hair too - from chest and beard.

>>42344162
how short are you?

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412 to 205 Am I making it, /fat/?

>>42344443
Absolutely. Shame about your skin though.

>>42344480
all wounds heal with time and surgery

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I'm cutting by a lot of calories, about 1500 kcal a day. At 6'0"/200lbs/f i need about 2400 kcal according to some calculators online, which I doubt, honestly.
I want to lose weight and actually enjoy not being bloated all the time so I bought protein powder, 83 g /100 g, low fat low carb etc.

What do you think: a few carrots a day for fiber and sugar (+other veggies), supplements, minerals, lots of water and proteinshakes daily, with about 700 kcal total a day?

I'm afraid I will have digestion problems or won't be able to go on the toilet anymore ._.
Has anyone done this? I do work out almost daily, but only a bit of running, squats, situps and all that fuzz.

>>42344526
oh, and I hope it's okay if i continue posting here at 200lbs - when I started I was at 270 lbs and posted ITT daily. Really helped a lot!

>>42344526
The more you rigid your diet is the more stressful it will be. Just stay under your TDEE and try to exercise some common sense and restraint. Good habits develop over time, you're not just gonna start eating healthy every day overnight and if you try to do it that way you will fail.

>>42344563
Thank you for your reply.
I lost 11 pounds within the last 4 weeks but I didn't use shakes, hence my question. I'm not stressed out, I simple don't have hunger anymore (finally!) and actually like the progress. Not being bloated all the time, actually feeling and looking thinner, facial fat is mostly gone. I'm flat chested and having a bit more pronounced breasts due to an almost empty stomach feels great.
I want to reach my goal weight and I'm sure I won't binge eat anymore or have any 'jo-jo-effect'. Depression lead me to my past weight and my diet was good beforehand. Kinda like the soylent-diet I would love to meet my macros with almost no calories and being vegetarian makes it hard to eat enough protons; still I used to eat lots of nuts and soy etc

>>42344648
Well assuming you are vegetarian not vegan you can add significant protons to your shakes by getting high protein milk.

>>42342140
over a year, 170lbs down and it's still not working then

>>42344526
You can do an all whey PSMF but it's harder for most people than just getting the protein from lean meat since drinks don't trigger satiety the same way solid food does. If you have the iron willpower, go for it. Remember to take a day every week or so to get some carbs in so you don't feel like death when you're exercising.

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Spent the weekend eating around my TDEE hoping to reset my weight loss from this stall. I also walked 36 miles while exploring two large cities.

After work I hit the gym to weigh in and get back to lifting. Wish me luck.

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>>42344672
I would prefer eating just a bit more powder instead of milk. I don't know, I avoid milk and milk products and may drink 1L of low-fat milk a month. Mainly for guests and our coffee :)

I should add: I don't eat 'that' much soy, it's just not appealing to me. Main source of protein before the weight loss was lentils, nuts, greens and other veggies.
>>42344824
Oh yes! I eat bananas and apples now and then, forget to add that, sorry. I'm still unsure if i should go for keto or not. Maybe eating more carbs on very stressful or demanding days? Keto takes a while to kick in, right?

do you guys recommend I get some meds from the doc? I try to exercise but I get insanely out if breath and my heart beats crazy. I feel dizzy and have a few times gone to nearly feint level. but not actually fully feinted. I have tinitus and it makes my ears ring so loud it hurts I just want it to stop so bad I realize how dumb it is to exercise. anyway, the main thing I find hard is on occasion I taste blood, like my heart really struggled with a bit of brisk walking uphill.

I have had a diabetic check and apparently my blood pressure is poor and I might need blood pressure tablets. the nurse said I could try to get better by myself just eating less salt and butter and fat, which I have done as it's easy to skip that stuff in summer anyways. I'm not a food addict like most fatties, just really fucking sedentary.

>>42344887
see a doctor jesus christ

today I ate:
-2 Eggs with Tabasco sauce, and some steamed brocc on the side.
-Made some thai basil chicken (lb finely chopped chicken breast) with leftover brocc, a little too salty so I'll cut it down.
-snacked on a banana
-drank a 12 ounce red bull (trying to quit)
-and made a cup of rice, with soy sauce and shrimp

Other than the high salt, is this bad or doing okay? What could I add for a night time snack that isn't too bad, I'm thinking some kiwis or berries or maybe nuts when I can afford them. Kinda hard too, cause I just want to eat fazolli's or make some other pasta.

can't eat red meat btw, so no jerky or anything like that.

>>42344887
how fucking heavy are you

>>42344887
Cut the exercise and stick to a caloric deficit. Also, see a doctor.

>>42344887
200+ pulse IS normal for a fatty running and doing a "heavy workout" even if the run pace is slightly above average

>>42344887
>I'm not a food addict like most fatties, just really fucking sedentary

You don't get fat by not exercising, you get fat by eating more calories than your body needs. You may not consider yourself addicted to food, most fat people wouldn't, but we all have eaten too much to get as fat as we are.

>>42344955
There's a difference between being addicted to eating, and eating slightly above what your body needs over time.

>>42342333
>no oil
what are you cooking it in then?

>>42344955
I eat huge portions but I many hours without food. normies eat far more often than I do. to the other anon, I'm probably 250lbs. I think last 8 got measured I was 128kg.

>>42344968
Yes there is, and the assertion that most fat people are literally addicted to food is just not true.

>>42344875
Keto does take a while to kick in(3-4 days? Not an expert). I'm not a fan since I hate having to avoid all the incidental carbs that are in everything but it is a very effective weight loss tool.

>>42344993
>Keto
Meme diet alert.

>>42344984
>normies eat far more often than I do

Why do you keep saying shit like this? You're fat. We both know it. You aren't a less bad fat for doing things you think aren't as bad as other fats, you're lying to yourself. If normies eat more often than you, why aren't they fat? Because you eat more. So why would it matter how often they eat if they still eat less?

>>42344969
apparently you can cook without

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SHdLb5AB6U

>>42343357
What has your calorie intake been? What has your general plan been?

>>42344837
36 miles? Wow, thats a lot, congrats!
>Wish me luck
I do wish you luck. Lifting is something I can only dream of atm. How much do you bench? The food looks like a treat, it's fried potato and cucumber-things, right? HNGNNHN
>>42344887
Go to a doctor, this sounds serious. Heart problems are nothing to joke about! Sounds like low blood pressure and low blood sugar, but we are not doctors so GET YOUR ASS TO A DOC.
I used to have the same symptoms and it turned out to be some issues with my heart; it got way better when I lost weight.
>>42344928
Your list was so good until you mentioned the red bull. I wish you luck quitting this concentrated sugar mess, maybe go for a sugarfree version?
>is this bad or doing okay?
Sounds good so far, do you count calories? Get yourself a digital scale, they cost almost nothing, and start measuring how much you're eating exactly. It's extremely helpful and important, i do it daily and keep track of how much i'm eating.
>>42344993
I think I will stick to just reducing caloric intake without cutting carbs out; weight loss is going great so far. Quitting sugar was hard and I try to avoid those kinds of carbohydrates.

>>42345024
Oh shit, thanks senpai.

Also, the fuck is marmite?

>>42345024
>jamie oliver not pouring olive oil over it
has hell frozen over

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>>42344984
>>42345020
BLOWN
THE
FAT
OUT

>>42345036
I usually just use the measures on some plastic cups I have and going online to look at the estimate nutriention facts. def gonna need a scale soon when I start making actual meals.
And yeah, it's hard cause I tried to quit coffee, but got massive headaches from the caffeine so I got red bulls. I'm in between transitioning to kickstarts since it has way less calories, then gonna wean off it completely. Incredibly addicted to soda and beers, I just quit drinking beer a month ago. That was hard as fuck

>>42344526

you are going to lose your muscle eating that little

just eat 1500

235lbs to 201lbs.
5'9" manlet
I literally eat like shit but I just eat less of it and so far it has been working pretty well. I stopped drinking soda 2 days ago completely as well, hopefully that will aid in it.

I have a question though, I haven't done any exercise yet but I think I would like to try and go out for a short run tomorrow morning and build up.overtime.

Should I start out with a 1 mile run? Maybe 3/4ths of the mile running and 1/4th of the mile speedwalking or some shit?

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Rate my progress /fat/. Down from 270 lbs at 6'4" in the left picture to 220 lbs in the right in about 4 months. ECA stack has been doing wonders for me as well as the fact that I started walking to work instead of driving as I only live a mile and a half away. The hunger pangs are still horrible though, and I find myself wanting another Klondike bar every day despite not even being close to my goal.

>>42345110
If you can run the whole mile without any problems, then you can do that
I tried starting with a mile, but at half mile I just fucked my shins all up. I'd run quarter mile, walk quarter, run quarter, walk last quarter if you can.

>>42345110
The way I did it was by having a playlist comprised of 3 minute or so long songs on my phone and jogging to the first one while walking at a fast-ish pace for the next and so on until I hit 2 miles. Imo time flies this way and it has really helped my aerobic capacity to the point where I can jog for 4 miles without having to walk.

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Wedding in two months, and anything would be better than I am now.

I'm going to alternate SS 3x a week and a 5k run 2x a week, eating at a deficit.

Is this enough?

>>42344968
This. I gained 30lbs in 7 years from just sitting on my ass and eating just almost above normal

>>42342792
I don't wanna
today was bad

>>42342792
I had half a mint Flake. Was tasty, especially frozen. For it I'm gonna do an extra round of my HIIT today.

>>42345097
I don't care about muscle loss
>>42345113
HNGHNHNNN
= extremely good progress
Congrats!

>>42345113
Dude, you're making it. Don't stop now, you're already at Brad-tier with your shape. You've got potential to be complete chad and attract girls left and right. You've got this man, and there's not a Klondike bar on this earth that'll taste as good as walking past a group of girls and seeing their eyes follow you.

>>42345113
what's your routine senpai

I'M THINKING ABOUT HER AGAIN. SOMEONE FUCKING HELP. JESUS CHRIST I WANT TO DIE.

>>42342552
>>42343645
Good fucking luck, I'm 2cm taller and 4-6kg lighter than you and I still have those god damn handles. I've gotten so used to tiny portions and low cal food that I still eat at 1300-1500 and the weight hasn't budged one bit for half a year now.

>>42344224
5'7

>>42345180
You'll be too tired to lift heavy/increased weights the day after a 5k. You will injure yourself -
precisely on the second or third day of Week 3, possibly while doing the press.

Add accessory/assistant exercises to SS after you learn the program in Week 1. Keep the reps high on your accessories.

If you must run, make it a 3k. Maybe once a week during the 2-day weekend break in SS.

As long as you're doing SS with a couple of accessories, consistently increasing your weights, and eating at a 500kcal deficit, you'll be surprised at the immediate results.

If you overtrain, on the other hand, you won't be able to complete 2 months. Exhaustion limits you real bad.

>>42345374
I do a 4 day split with Bench, squat, Deadlift, and Auxillary muscles being the main lifting sets each day. On my "rest" days I usually sit in my room and do 150 crunches or hop on a rowing machine for an hour and honestly it feels great.
>>42345348
Thanks dude, I got lucky genetically to have broad shoulders and hips but that made it all the easier to add fat on too lol

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>>42345036
Thanks man. My feet were sore as hell but it was fun.

I'm not benching yet because I felt like my strength was unbalanced between my left and right arms, so right now I'm working on a chest press machine and using dumbbells for tricep push aways, to even that out.

I'm squatting ,though. Last time was 35kg, working my way up. Baby steps.

As for the food, homemade vegetable tempura. I went to a going away party for a friend in Tokyo. It was delicious.

>>42345395
She sure as shit isn't thinking about you, so stop wasting your time. Find a new hobby. Or read Starting Strength, if you haven't yet.

>>42345411
what's your goal weight?

>>42345502
Around 145 is what I should be I believe. Gotta love how it all goes to my boobs, stomach, and hips.

>>42345439
For real?

I used to run marathons before I got fat, but I still have a real easy time knocking off a 5k in about 35 minutes.

Is there really risk for injury?

>>42345071
sauce?

>>42344118
>>42345030

I've been intermittent fasting - I basically eat one huge meal a day and eat whatever I want during it (while trying to emphasize protein). IF also makes me feel way less guilty when I go out to drink.

Other than that, a few bodyweight exercises when I can - push-ups, planks, and the like. Been working pretty well desu.

>>42345646
When do you usually eat? I've thought about trying OMAD but I'm not sure I can do it. Any tips?

>>42345646
Also how much do you eat calorie-wise?

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22 years old, 6'1", 30 lbs down. Why the fuck do I still have these wide birthing hips? Shit drives me nuts, and the fat just won't go away. Is that gonna be the last thing to go?

How the hell do you count calories???!

>>42345689
Probably. You can't target fat, it goes when it goes. If you don't like your look at your goal weight, focus on lowering body fat percent instead.

>>42345709
One at a time.

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I wish I could fast forward 6 months to when I'm in a normal weight range

>>42345731
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF YOU FUCKING FAGGOT DIE AND BURN IN HELL FOREVER

>>42345709
Myfitnesspal, scanning barcodes on packages, measuring, and weighing.

It sounds like a huge pain in the ass but once you've started it's super easy.

>>42345733
Yes, so does everyone. Now do the work.

>>42345723
At the risk of sounding dumb, how exactly do you go about lowering body fat? Just lifting while cutting? Or do I just keep doing what I'm doing and shed more pounds?

>>42345749
Never be afraid to ask question.
I'm not an expert at all, but you should probably lift so you'll end up with some visible muscle.

But the only requirement is cutting fat. Continue what you are doing if it's working for weight loss, but get on a beginner lifting program like Starting Strength (read the book) to build some muscle too.

>>42345780
I did SL for like two weeks in June but honestly I fucking hate the gym and I did not enjoy lifting. I know I'll look like shit if I don't put on any muscle though, so I'm starting again tonight with GSLP because I hated squatting three days a week. I'm gonna give it all I have, I figure if I have the patience and discipline to stick to a diet and lose 30 pounds then I can get over my social anxiety and work out for 5 hours a week.

>>42345855
It's good you are trying again, but if you hate lifting don't five yourself. Maybe bodyweigjt exercises instead?

>>42345872
I might end up going that route, but I don't wanna give up just yet. I mean there are people here way more autistic than me that manage to get over it and get themselves in the gym every day. I promised myself I'd stick to this routine for 4 weeks and then make a decision from there. Figure that's enough time to really get a feel for it and decide if it's for me or not, and maybe also be able to see what kind of accessories I want to add if I do end up enjoying it.

>>42345180
>lofty goal in a short timeframe
>overly ambitions plan to reach it
>clearly doomed to fail
is this a meme?

>mummy asked if I wanted a sandwich
>said no
gonna make it, conquering these cravings

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the Auschwitz diet is really paying off. lost 20lbs in one month.

[spoiler]hurts to live though[/spoiler]

>>42345898
As a foreign fatty in a country of thin people, I was worried about going to the gym. But nobody gives a shit, or if they do I can't tell.

Just focus on what you're doing and idle everybody else. I know that doesn't help now, but if you can go two or three times you'll believe it.

My head hurts way too much lads, I'm going to die (I'm ok with that)

hey, current fattie looking to cut back. I've got eating correctly down pat, I just need someone to give me some good workout tips like routines. Got a gym membership now, but I just need a set routine to keep me focused.

>>42343319
Put some of the more neutral tasting ones like cauliflower, beans, and mushrooms into chilis, curries, and casseroles. I shill for electric skillets a lot, but they really are that great.

>>42344928
Red Bull and soy are the only red flags. Bananas not great, but okay sometimes. Kiwis, berries, and nuts would be great additions (berry season is winding down in NA/EU), and I would also suggest citrus and apples.

>>42345955
what is the Auschwitz diet friendo?

>>42345955
This is me in >>42345689 and I've lost 30 pounds in two months comfortably. I feel great every day and I eat plenty of quality food and even have a cheat meal every once in a while. Don't starve yourself man, it's not worth it. What's a months difference? Better to build up these good habits and get used to eating healthy as just regular life instead of a temporary mode.

>>42346039
Swimming in the camp pool every day, riding on the camp's attractions in the amusement park, playing on the soccer team, seeing the latest Charlie Chaplin film in the camp movie theater.

>>42346039
lentils, chicken, whey ONLY drink water ONLY

1100 cals every day and obey 16:8

>>42345955
>start a diet you can't possibly sustain once you lose the weight you want
what's the point?

you'll be back where you started

>>42345955
is this diet any better than the Iron curtain cut?

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>>42342792
Ate a protein bar more than I planned. And bailed on gym today. Still under TDEE but still feels bad.

please give me the strength to not fuck it up further, /fat/. I can't destroy my progress now and set myself back

>>42346172
he won't if he doesn't eat like a pig

>>42346212
stop eating, you wanna get laid right? fat fuck

6 more pounds then I can dial back the restriction a little

can't say it's been easy, but it's been worth it
I'll never be a fatass again

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>>42346221
Thanks.
We're all going to make it

>>42346212
>protein bar
I tried one of those today out of curiosity when I did my shopping. Tastes like absolute trash and was so thick and chewy that it was a chore to eat. Dunno why anyone would eat those things when whey and high protein milk are around.

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>>42346392
what brand was it?
I eat Pure Protein & they're addicting as fuck. chewy and slow to eat yes. but also delicious and since they're so thick makes me unable to eat huge quantities of them
the peanut butter ones are a little too good though

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>struggle with losing weight for over a decade, since fucking middle school
>not even really fat, just chubby with the wide-hipped, estrogenic body of a low-test nu-male faggot
>hate myself, feel ashamed to leave my house, can't even make eye contact with people, don't feel worthy of being alive
>finally man up this year, eat at a 1,000+ calorie deficit, one meal a day, only drink water
>lose 60 lbs since February
>now weigh 145 lbs at 6'1"
>face thinned out but still a bit chubby, cheekbones only a little visible, no Adam's apple, abs very slightly visible, ribs visible, no stretch marks or loose skin
>feel much better about myself but still need to lose a bit more weight
>my cunt psychiatrist forbids it because I'm approaching underweight on "le BMI XDDD"
>try to explain that I have a really high body fat percentage so I'm not as skinny as I seem on paper and the BMI doesn't mean shit
>she says she'll send me to the funny farm if I continue
Kill me. I'm still too scared to go to the gym so I'm doing probably-futile meme calisthenics at home and eating a bit more to try to keep losing weight without getting sent to the nutbarn but it's probably hopeless and I will die alone and starvation mode is a fucking meme.

>>42346542
If you are not lifting or building muscle then BMI probably does apply to you. You just went from fatso to skellington.

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I ate a whole entire pizza today.

>>42346573
boogie get out reee

>>42346561
But that's the thing--I'm not a skellington, I'm skinnyfat. This cunt is acting like I'm Bale-in-The Machinist Auschwitz-mode when I still have a pretty high bf%. I know the proper thing to do is start to eat at a surplus and lift and gain muscle instead of cut more but fuck me lad I just can't do that yet.

>>42346542
hmm, we are connected
>me
>6'1
>years of yo-yo crash dieting
>heaviest at 310lbs last September
>currently 146 (damn you)
>zero mass
>skinnyfat to the max
>still want to lose 6 pounds to be another bracket away from overweight
I'm just terrified of getting fat yet again

I started light cardio a few weeks ago just to speed things up, this is probably the longest I've done regular exercise.

What were you seeing a shrink for?

>>42343319
Use grill safe pan, sheet, etc
Slice veggie thin (zucchini, yellow squash, carrots, potatoes, onions, etc)
1-2 tsp olive/coconut oil
Pinch of salt
paprika to taste

>>42346573
Remember the regret you are feeling now, write it down and tape it somewhere you will see every day

You fat fuck

>>42344499
Way to go man. Don't let people put you down for lose skin. Time and surgery fix everything. Just be sure you are at the lowest weight you would want to ever be before said surgery or you may get more lose skin in the future.

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>>42342792
Peanuts... I planned on eating half the can but half turned to 2/3 then 3/4 then 7/8 .. and so now I'm here. Damn you salt.

>>42346726
don't call me fat please. and i will remember this.

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i need motivation to finish my cut. i've been eating like 2600 calories a day and it's causing me to lean bulk/recomp.

it's much harder to want to not eat when i'm not fat anymore. but i still need to lose like 10-15 lbs. wat do

>>42346757

>wat do

>not at goal

Gee, maybe you should keep cutting, since that's what you have to do to get to your goal. You've made it this far, how the fuck are you just gonna give up now?

>>42342792
I ate half a tub of ice cream in depression over screwing up paperwork at work, then in anger at what I was doing smacked myself in the face enough that I started seeing little flecks of light, then I forced myself to puke it back up into the toilet.

I don't want to be fitr, I want to not hate myself. Because i do. I hate the choices Ive made and make, I hate the way I look, I hate that I don't have friends I hate that I cant accomplishm ygoals, and I hate that I probably neeed a therapist.

>lose 30 pounds
>dick grows half an inch
I'M MAKING IT GUYS

>>42342185
Drop the gay ass fade and you'll look much better

>>42346788
>probably

Definitely.

Make an appointment with a therapist, stop punishing yourself for mistakes, and for goodness sake don't purge ever again.

Your problems aren't all weight related. You need to deal with everything, not just one thing.

I eat a vlcd and eat packaged food so the calories are accurate

I feel like I'm cheating. Dunno if I'm losing weight on easy or hard more.

>>42346925
I've lost half my body weight eating mainly microwave burgers and cake bars
I do not recommend it, but it works

>>42345855

why do you hate the gym and lifting?

>>42346925

i lost all my weight eating wendys, dominos, chips, ramen, protein bars, and whey pretty much

>>42343003
Enjoy your beetus.

>>42346647
Well if you think you're right and she's being stupid then consult a GP and refer her to them when she gets cunty at you.

>>42342792
ate a whole large pizza felt guilty didn't eat the rest of the day except for a protein shake, still came 300 calories under my daily

>>42343289
This is going to happen to me tomorrow I know it...ate 1500 today & my limit was supposed to be 1300. Feelsbadman

>206
>down from 232
>still look like a fatty fatty boombalatty
When/At what weight do I begin bulking

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papa /fit/
I ate 860 calories today only and just came back from excercise.
Can I make a grilled cheese sandwich?
please?

>>42347730
yes just put protein powder in the tomato soup

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>>42347771
I dont have that

but I have salmon oil supplements.

Can I use that instead?

WHAT IS THE POINT

>>42347502
how tall are you?

>>42347959
People treat you better when you're average weight/fit. You may as well be invisible if you're fat

>>42347730
>grilled cheese sandwich
that can't be more than 500kcal can it?

>>42348007
5'9

>>42348034
Depends on how much fat and cheese you use, doesn't it?

>>42347730
>>42347799
saiwako best

>>42348281
Don't forget sauce, fatty cuts of meat, whether you make one or two, the bread thickness and buttering

>>42348034

Depends on how much butter and cheese you pretty much.

2 pieces of cheese and 1 tablespoon is only about 300 calories so 500 with the bread.

Some people use 4 slices and 2 tablespoons of butter to make it nearly 800 calories. Sometimes 1000.

>>42348717
>butter on a grilled cheese sandwich?
People actually do this?
I just put some mozzarella and that's basically it.

>>42348750
You butter the outside so when it cooks it browns and goes golden rather than burns

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>only 0.8 pounds lost this week because eating a big bowl of cocoa puffs every day makes me go slightly over my deficit
At least I'm only 2 off from my goal BMI

>>42342328
If you can still eat like that you're not going to make it man. You have an unhealthy relationship with food.

>>42342328
>>42349059
This, holy shit. Why would you ever eat yourself sick?

I had lunch and dinner far too close together months ago and swore I would never do it again, I can't imagine going harder than that.

I binge ate, yeah I know its bad but its under control, why are my lats so sore ?

>>42336247
329 today, V3lbs from yesterday, ^4lbs from start.
Nothing but water today.

cutting at 1.7k calories from being 6"4 140kgs, I'm now 6"4 117kgs trying to get to 105kgs as my next goal.

My question is that I've never cut at such a low caloric intake and because I've just started cutting this hard I'm usually weak and tired when it comes to my gym sessions, I've made peace with the fact that my lifts will not increase anytime soon but I'm trying my best to maintain my current lifts while cutting bf%. So HOW do you manage your meals so that you aren't tired during workout periods or is this something I just have to put up with for the time being? Thanks.

>>42349403
I went from 6'4" 130kg to 6'4" 97kg (where I am now) by eating 1600 a day religiously, you will get used to it at a certain point frankly. If it's actually impacting your life to the point you feel weak than there might be other underlying issues, I would suggest either raising your TDEE or just changing what you eat to get there

>>42343319
Cut them up super small and throw them into a chicken crock pot.

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overate by 100 calories because I didn't check a label after 2 months of not going above my deficit

it's all over bros. what's the point anymore?

>>42342328
At least you vomited some of the calories out. Not the best thing, but could be worse.

>>42349403
Eat 30-60 mins before the gym? It's not hard to figure this out.

Just because you're cutting doesn't mean that the meals you do have won't provide you adequate energy for the next few hours, just not enough for the whole day (hence your body using fat)

>>42349473
wouldn't take long to burn off 100 calories

>>42349497
counting exercise is a meme

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>>42343055
you sound like you should read the meditation thread

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>used to order pizza hut basically 24/7
>check how bad it would be for me using mfp for science
>mfw if I ate it for 5 weeks straight I would gain 70 pounds

My new earbuds just came in. Finally, cardio won't be boring as hell.

>>42349552
I use sennheiser pxc480s, they're seriously the best purchase I've ever made

not sure if they're really intended for exercise but the sound quality is just obscene and I use them for my commute and PC too

>>42342655
>>42343189
Not that anon, but these two posts triggered me so much. That's a perfectly fine weight for someone who doesn't have a lot of muscle and by no means unhealthy, and the sticky even recommends getting down to 10-12% body fat before focusing on lifting. The cravings meme is also bullshit, you won't feel significantly hungrier if you eat 200 kcals fewer. The reason people think people on low kcal diets will fail is that diets have a huge failure rate in general, and their confirmation bias kicks in when someone on a low kcal diet fails.

is doing a cheat day every week a good idea? just seems pointless to me

>>42349454
Damn, congrats.. that gives me hope. Were you running? if so how many km's if i may ask?

I feel as though eating is heaven, and I'm getting used to not being super full after every meal.. it's just feeling lethargic during work hours is what really gets me.. it's like a long mental game, almost like running a marathon with a small pebble in your shoe.

>>42349494
Thanks for putting into perspective mate

>>42349631
You only need to have them weekly if you need it. Some people here need it so they don't quit. If you have the willpower to not have cheat meals, then dont have them

>>42349637
Got a treadmill off gumtree because I'm too lazy to do real running, do my cardio on there for the most part. I try to burn 200 a day + 1600kcal.

I know exactly how you feel about work, but the first week or so after starting proper dieting is the hardest part because your body still wants you to eat like a pig. I had several false starts where I kinda did well for a while and then fucked up along the way, it's just a long term short term thing; you can eat as much as you want now (and feel like shit after) or focus on the weight coming off, which is its own reward after a certain amount of time

Does anyone else have problems with their shorts running up their inner thigh while jogging? How do you stop this from happening?

>>42349668
>not running either naked or in a 3 piece suit

never gonna make it

>>42349671
Okay anon but that doesn't answer my question.

>>42345670
Not him, but I like eating in the morning, while other people on OMAD like eating in the afternoon or in the evening, so there really isn't a one size fits all approach here, just try and see what works the best for you in terms of hunger.

all fat people should be deported to concentration camps where work will make them free

prove me wrong

>>42349665
nice man, thanks for the advice good luck on your journey

>>42346542
>>42346647
I get that you're still fat, but you lack lean mass, so you'll be genuinely underweight if you keep losing (you'll probably lose some additional muscle too). If your psychiatrist sends you to some anorexia shit you'll be set back by months, and you definitely don't want that, so just focus on lifting for now, or get a better calisthenics program if you feel like the one you're currently doing is shit.

how do you guys manage alcohol consumption?

Obviously wanting to get as drunk with as little calories as possible to maybe stay in your caloric range, less of a hangover is a bonus too.

>>42349668
Get longer shorts I guess, I run in shorts that go down to my knees.

>>42349758
I usually drink two bottles of wine when I'm partying, and maybe a couple beers afterwards. It isn't a setback in my experience, and I'm in the middle of the healthy BMI range, so it's not because I'm a 3000 kcal TDEE fatass, but I only drink like once every two weeks. Hangovers fuck me up tho.

>>42349758
Stop drinking, eejit

haven't been in the thread in a while, but i checked the google doc and apparently last week was glitch's last. she fuckin' made it, good on her.
also kek'd at the new titles. appropriate choice for Glitch to be Hades imo.
Btw Glitch, how are your caves and three headed bitch doing? the view from Mount Olympus is A+ this time of the year.

>>42349758
Vodka has the best calorie performance ratio, white rum is also good. Any dark liquor or beer will jack up your calories

>>42349967
whisky?

>>42345329
Honestly i think you should reconsider. Even if you are lighter, you would look worse than a guy with some muscle.

>>42346015
Most people recommend SS.

>>42346647
You should probably bulk and build some muscle now.

>>42346790
How can you grow a dick by losing weight?

>>42342127
why does she have a penis

Refeed on saturday, fuck yeaaaa

Can someone explain the logic of eating more on a certain day to "break through the plateau/reset metabolism"?

>>42350146
unless you're anorexic you likely have a pubic fat deposit at the base of your shlong on your pelvis, try and guess what happens to that fat deposit when you're 300lb etc

losing weight doesn't make it larger physically, just gets rid of the concealment

>>42350245
This. Someone please explain. I don't know too.

>>42350305
>>42350245
imagine you've got a chimney fire that you maintain with little sticks ever so often, the flame won't be so high? then once in a while, when the fire is dying out, you put in a log, and it restarts the fire and fuels it for hours after. That's how it works, logically. I tried and tested it myself a couple of times, it worked for me. Also one thing I learned is that since you're already plateauing (as in having gained some water weight that negates your fat loss on scale), you might as well go to maintenance a couple days, then go back down progressively to where you were, and that'll help you shed the accumulated water weight, and pick back fat loss where you left it (+ seeing the woosh effect, as in the sudden drop in weight after the combined water weight and fat loss drop).

>>42346788
this is the whitest post ive ever read

>>42350346
I've noticed it myself and I appreciate the metaphor but do you have a more scientific explanation of the process

Plus I still think timetabling your surplus days in is retarded

>>42350352
I'm not going to generalize, but I'll say this :
I'm not white, but I've always admired white people as a civilization for their progress and scientific minds, but really one thing I don't envy them, is that with the comfort the scientific revolution has brought them, they seem to experience so much less hardship in life that they don't develop the part of their mind that works to have mental fortitude, and break down over small things.
I'm not saying the prospect of losing your job is a small thing, I just think it's not worth binging/purging/self-harming yourself over.

>>42350360
the metabolic breakdown of calories is similar to combustion (hence the metaphor), which is why and how we estimate the calories in food. A simple increase in the intake will necessitate a greater energy expenditure mobilization in order to cater to the breakdown of the food.
In reality, people think that fire "eats" wood and things, while in fact it's more like wood breaking down inside fire's environment. Same goes for the digestion process. We're not so much eaters as we are consumers, per say.
Hope this makes more sense.

>>42350372
>with the comfort the scientific revolution has brought them, they seem to experience so much less hardship in life

Pajeet or African?

Oh, wait, you're an american nig who thinks he's hard done by

>>42350372
>they seem to experience so much less hardship in life that they don't develop the part of their mind that works to have mental fortitude, and break down over small things.
Only white people in 1st world do that.

>>42350372
I'm white but I don't think there's any point in equating the average joe with white civilisation, he didn't contribute to where we are now but he is benefiting from it. And what you're describing is just first world problems, most people living in 'the west' will have it to varying degrees. People who are more complacent both physically and mentally + all the additional shit in our food + wealth and disposable income to buy whatever you want whenever you want (at least with awful food) resulted in this time period having the fattest people in human history

>>42350409
jesus triggered much...I'm neither of those, but I was born and raised in 1st world northern europe, from first generation immigrant parents who came to study there and both got PhDs, and made it big, I'm probably better educated and richer than you.
It's easy to think anyone that has some criticism towards you is inferior to you. I don't like people who complain about their condition, like "american nigs" who want slavery reparations which was the obvious point of my comment, but you're honestly not better than them if you think you too aren't affected by a biased representation of what actual hardship by human standards is.

>>42350413
Yeah, I'm sure Afrikaaners for exemple have it way worse than any other white people. I only empathize with "missionary/colon/settler" types of white people that come to -lawfully- live in a remote second/thirld world place.

>>42350452
yeah, first world problems was the essence of my post. of course, as you said, average joe didn't build rome, but still benefits from it. I'm just looking into the future of societies and thinking where is civilization as a whole going, you know?

>>42350469
>but I was born and raised in 1st world northern europe, from first generation immigrant parents who came to study there and both got PhDs, and made it big, I'm probably better educated and richer than you.

So then why do you think you have any ability to judge white people who are poorer than you when you were raised in better conditions than them and have never even set foot in a 3rd world country, you dumb nigger?

>It's easy to think anyone that has some criticism towards you is inferior to you.

You're non-white, you are inferior.

>>42350469
> you're honestly not better than them if you think you too aren't affected by a biased representation of what actual hardship by human standards is
>says he's the son of rich PhD holders
>I'm probably better educated and richer than you

Why should we be taking lectures from you again

>>42350490
you think being raised in better conditions means not knowing what hardship is? My family and my own success were based on the foundation that you should suffer anything to improve your condition, it's the sole reason why we are now wealthy. My parents came to this country with literally a hundred currency in their pockets, literally change, yet they made it. And you tell me a white poor person who's from here hasn't the ability to do the same or any better? You're deluded pal, it boils down to taking chances and working hard to what you want. But this is classic toxic poor people behavior (some of them actually want to improve), they'd rather blame other circumstances than their own lack of dedication.
>never even set foot in a third world country
I've lived in my parent's origin countries for many years, often on family visits or vacations. Most of my family there is still poor, and I know their hardship because I live through them.

>non white = inferior
yeah sure, hold on to your "genetic" superiority meme. Only material possessions/scientific knowledge matter in this world.

>>42350506
Never claimed to be giving out lectures, just stated my opinion. Besides, anybody with enough clear judgment (as in the correct moral and ethical values to determine categories of judgment) can reason through an event and assess whether it is a serious issue or not.
But sure, make it sound like the people who obviously have a leeway in accessing that kind of knowledge, or the material wealth to acquire the protection necessary to sustain habits such as ethics/morals don't know shit about what a "hardship" is. It's not because some of my knowledge is purely theoretical that I still don't have some sense to make judgments.
simple analogy : so you know the stove burns, but you only trust people who burned their hands on it to tell you it hurts?

>>42349539
>used to work at the hut\
>would refry my chicken wings (boneless)\
>would deliver food all day and snack while driving
>Gained 45 pounds after dropping from 270 to `180 and getting abdominoplasty to remove the sag.

Bout that time boys.

>>42350537
>you think being raised in better conditions means not knowing what hardship is?

That was the basis of your entire argument, that whitey doesn't know hardship so he breaks down more easily, but it's different for you even though you were raised in a white country and had more of the advantages than most white people have. So are you saying that you're more fragile because you're MORE pampered than the average white in the country you're living in?

>My parents came to this country with literally a hundred currency in their pockets, literally change, yet they made it. And you tell me a white poor person who's from here hasn't the ability to do the same or any better?

And many white people have, what does this even mean? Do you somehow think that you understand your parents' struggles just because you're their child? YOU didn't do anything, you just witnessed them doing something.

>I've lived in my parent's origin countries for many years, often on family visits or vacations.

lol, you're some bougie fuck who thinks volunteering in Africa means you have any conception of what ordinary life is like for those people.

Weird that you're mad at another guy for talking about race when your entire argument is race-based. You are literally some privileged rich kid daddy's boy who thinks he's special just because his parents were 1st generation and non-white. You have no right to lecture anybody who is on a lower rung of the economic scale than you when you've been pampered your entire life.

Good for your parents, they did really well in life, shame they raised their son to be such a retard.

>>42350537
>parents couldn't make money in their 3rd world shithole
>they move to a white country, built and sustained by white people, with white culture and white institutions
>they make a success of themselves
>their mongrel third-world offspring is born in the white country, raised with stable white currency, schooled in white schools
>"let me tell you what's wrong with white people"

Every time

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>thread about losing weight somehow devolves into alt-right shit

forgot what website I was on for a sec

>>42350580
>>42350594
wow you guys are butthurt to the max. I stated in my first post that I didn't want to generalize, but sure you're going to go ahead and make a generalization out of me.
I was talking about first wold problems like this guy docking himself because he ate a tub of icecream after making a mistake at work...
You can't take criticism, even when it's targeted at being constructive and changing a mentality. You obviously also disregard the fact I have said I admire white civilization on many other aspects. You can go fuck yourself.
I don't go volunteer in Africa, I said I go live with extended poor family, in rural undeveloped areas what's more. Have some reading comprehension.
Yes I think I understand my parent's struggle because I lived through some of them, like having to stave/eat poorly during my childhood because my parents were not always wealthy. My mom was sick for some time and couldn't work, my dad left the house when I was a child, and only provided a pension every other month or so. But still you think you got a read on me because I simply was honest enough to say I got a good education and my parents are rich.
If you had any intelligence, you'd understand it's not possible to make it in just a couple years, and I have lived through the grinding of my parents up until I was an adult. And I did some things for them, like I do for myself now, like deal with administrative paperwork, banks, healthcare fees, taxes, manage (clean, make visits) my parent's estate, worked for my dad unpaid for a while to alleviate his work load. But sure, just assume I am a bougie fuck who's been pampered through my whole life.
As a result, I can say I am more conscious (not exempt) from first world problems complacency, than someone like my peers from social status, who are white and have been sheltered from this all throughout their lives.
cont...

>>42350660
>your entire argument is race-based. Not entirely, as I said "civilization, as in scientific progress" was the factor in people becoming complacent. It just so happens that the white civilization was the more advanced, and is suffering more from it as a result.
the other guy implied genetic superiority, while I only recognized material/scientific superiority. In that aspect, I still think whites are superior. Does that mean I am a racist? I don't think so.

>>42350660
>he now over-exaggerates childhood struggles because he realises that he was actually being completely insensitive

"Good education" is a codeword for private school, you've never actually met any working-class whites. You still haven't even explained what being white has to do with anything here.

> And I did some things for them, like I do for myself now, like deal with administrative paperwork, banks, healthcare fees, taxes, manage (clean, make visits) my parent's estate, worked for my dad unpaid for a while to alleviate his work load.

Oh my fucking god, this is CLASSIC rich kid bullshit, "ooh, daddy made me work as a janitor during the summer I know all about the actual lives of poor people", just admit you're a spoilt fuck, then I could actually respect you.

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Why the fuck did I go food shopping while I was hungry?

I had half a jar of peanut butter and 3/4 gallon of milk for dinner last night

I was doing so well too (50lbs lost). I threw the peanut butter out and I'm getting back on track today.

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>>42350654
It's the night-shift people.

>height = 175cm
>77kg
>BMI = 25.14 kg/m2 (overweight, barely)
>body fat = 15.4%
>ABS status: not visible, just a blob

So yeah, probably not a fatso, but I want to lose a bit, so I started fasting this noon. No family parties in nearest future, so there will be nothing forcing me to eat.
I'm quite of excited about it, feels like some sort of disobedience against family norms (started sleeping on the floor, too. I have a second night behind me).

>>42350660
You're an American who is LARPing as something you're not, you were certainly not raised in Europe, I know American syntax and references when I see it.

Give up the act senpai, you've been caught.

>>42350736
How are you even capable of such feats my man?
How do you just sit down drink like three cartons of milk and a jar of peanut butter? Thats some youtube challenge shit right there.

>>42345723
Other anon here.
Long time ago P.E. teacher in midschool told me that people gain and lose fat starting from face down.

He just needs to shed more fat.

>>42350781
I can do 1.5 gallons easy. Probably two if I really tried.

>>42342792
I still don't have a girlfriend. I'll have to work harder for that special someone

>>42345965
Don't forget to laugh in Death's face.

>>42350725
>he discredits the struggles of others because he doesn't have the reading comprehension to understand they were not always rich or well off.
Meanwhile, senpai, you've clearly stated that the only cut-off is that I have never been working-class so I wouldn't know. Well fuck you, you hypocrite, I've known working-class people, lived with them, as my friends for years, and my current partner is working class, has a physical labor job.
Yes I went to private school, but it meant wearing second hand clothes from thrift stores, eating junk sale discount hypermarket food daily, never having money for anything and such. I'm not going to tell you about the kind of discrimination I have received from the rich kids at private school just for being poorer than them on appearance and financially for a long while (I'm not going to stoop low and pull the race card, though I was the only non-white there). So you associating me with them is a big mistake on your part.
I did explain what it has to do with being white, I said white civilization is more advanced, the people who live there are majoritarily white, there are more prone to being sheltered/complacent about their problems. It's easy as that, I'm not saying they are genetically inferior or anything, just that external factors such as a complacent society made some of them soft.
You clearly have an inferiority complex towards rich people, meanwhile I have worked on mine and buried it long ago, because I have actually lived with rich people, unlike you. See how I switched it up on you? Now go fuck yourself.
And don't assume anything about me or my wife's son every again, cunt.

>>42342792
I'm in the Phillippines right now and it's considered rude to turn down food and drink that's offered to you at someone's house.

We visited 3 different families today and I went thru about a whole fucking litre of coke cause water is harder to come by.

>>42350660
So, what if your parents were chronic alcoholics or junkies? Its a common problem in every country. Does growing up that way forge a person to be of steel resolve?

>>42350808
Pb always gets me too that's why I make it a rule to only consume it if it's mixed with something healthy like oats and a bit of honey.
>>42350819
Where you at now?

>>42350847
Yes, I think you can benefit from a paren'ts self destructive behavior in the sense that it can become a lead not by exemple case, as in you know exactly first hand experience how destructive such habit as alcoholism (which my dad has mildly) can do to someone. There are a lot of people who swear to never become their own parent's monsters (like that dad thread a while ago where a lot of guys said they were abused but know exactly from it what not to do when raising a child). I'm not saying everyone can sift through the net and not pick up on the destructive behaviors as some do imprint on you (it took me a lot of time to fix my mom's imprinted eating behaviors on me, like binges and stuff, to keep this related to topic), but you will and always have self-control in the end, and can master any hardship if you assess it correctly, which is my point.

>>42349758
Gram of alcohol is like 7 calories.
So in the end no matter what you drink, you still have to drink certain amount of alcohol to get drunk.

>>42350838
>Yes I went to private school

And into the trash he goes

>the kind of discrimination I have received from the rich kids at private school just for being poorer than them on appearance and financially for a long while

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>waaaa waaaa the rich kids are making fun of me for being slightly less rich

literally lmaoing at you faggot

>>42350838
This just oozes of being deeply, deeply insecure, just thought I'd let you know

>>42350360
In literal terms, I think he means that your TDEE lowers in response to eating at a deficit as a kind of survival mechanism or for some other reason, and eating at maintenance for a day is supposedly able to reset it back to normal, so you can lose weight faster again.
Honestly though, I think the whole idea of plateaus is a meme, because there is no way your TDEE can decrease by enough for you to not lose fat, so plateaus are probably just some kind of statistical anomaly caused by all the different factors that affect your weight besides fat, or you simply fucked up the calorie counting. The reason this method may seemingly work is partly confirmation bias (you plateau for a week, eat at maintenance to get through the plateau, and you do get through it, not because the method works, but because you would have gotten through it eventually anyway), or that it can help you get rid of accumulated water weight or whatever.

>>42350850
Location? Or just status.
Well, I live in California. And I'm on /fat/ because I admit I got fat. I lost 3 pounds this week so that's a good thing I suppose. So far I've been good on dieting; bananas, apples, water, and the raisin brand. I hope I will get there one day muh anon. And we will all together bask in not being fat pieces of shit. And we will get the perfect, neo Nazi, Asian gamer girl that we all want in Mr bones wild life.

Hey guys. I am 1.80m weighting 115kg (started at 127kg 2 month ago) and on the way to run 5km, I managed to run for 30m but hitting only 4.60km so I need to up the pace.

Anyways, I wanted to ask if anyone had a routine/exercise for home as I got no gym access and now that my cardio is so much better than what it used to be id like to do strength training.

>>42344162
How long did this take? What all did you do?

>>42350838
What is it about richfags that they try and pretend their upbringing was difficult

Every richfag I've met does the same thing

>>42350880
>private school is bad
>higher standards of education leads to moral depravity because they imply wealth
>rich people are inherently evil

Clearly my point was that I am not like the stereotypical spoilt rich kid you're painting me to be, that I actually earned my respect, instead of got it served to me because of my circumstances, but sure...As I said I buried my resentment for class struggle long ago, and was only pointing out these events so you knew exactly in what kind of material circumstances I was, but sure just paint it like I was complaining about being "made fun of".

Well I sincerely hope your kids fare well in public school, and that even with your poor (as in mentally poor) attitude towards accumulating wealth, because you fell for the "all rich people are evil" meme, you won't get your kids into being working class too like you. I'm sure that's what you want, right?
People like you who hold a grudge towards people who received higher education and as a result became wealthy are exactly what might make the civilized world fail. Because better no one advances themselve intellectually/materially if you can't, right nigger?

>>42350944
Yeah at least us "richfags" don't try and discredit anything you've ever felt because you didn't have money. How would you feel if I told you "well you're simply not happy because you're poor, nigger" Go fuck yourself. It's like nobody cuts you any slack because muh money. I wasn't rich all my life, nigger. If you read me thoroughly, you could get a sense of how I lived until adulthood. With this kind of mentality, you'll never make it. And if you do, I hope people bitchslap you at the first sign of a complain spilling from your lips. That'll teach you for saying "muh upbringing" now, nigger.

>>42350989
Imagine being this mad

>>42350989
>parents become rich during childhood (and clearly had SOME money before as they sent him to a private school)
>never had to do anything during childhood, as you were a child
>maybe helped out here and there with various shit
>parents rich into adulthood
>"I worked for this!"

This is pure denial

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Is there a protein powder that doesn't taste like shit mixed with water?

Also what kind of protein powder is best for weight loss?

>>42350989
>Clearly my point was that I am not like the stereotypical spoilt rich kid you're painting me to be

You are though, I went to university with a ton of rich kids because I succeeded in education even though I didn't go to some toff school (guess that's my parents' fault though, what with one of them dying from brain cancer, guess they just didn't have the right motivation though, right?), all the richfags all did the same song and dance that you're doing now, they all tried to say they understood poor people and being poor because they washed daddy's conservatory once, they all claimed they were poor when they were toddlers and their parents were thrifty and therefore they knew being poor. It's honestly pathetic.

I'd rather raise my child poor than let them grow up to have the richfag mentality, it's fucking cancer.

>>42351007
where I live private school is like 300euros per semester, for the top notch ones. It's not difficult to save that amount, even when my dad was working a shitty job and my mom had none. I stayed at that same school all throughout elementary, middle and high school.
>never had to do anything during childhood
I did my part, cleaning, cooking, doing groceries with my mother, up until I became a teen and started helping out with administrative paperwork, work for my dad, still do a lot around the house.
>parents rich into adulthood
>I worked for this
do you think I still leech on them? No, they never gave me a dime ever since I graduated high school and left the house. I started working a job, saved for renting a studio apartment, and moved out. Then I took up higher education, and now have a PhD in a well-paying field, and can now afford anything I want for myself. I worked for this, nigger. I virtually made it without their help, because I went into a higher education system that is chance-based for admissions and not based on your previous schools. You can suck it.

>it's another "poorfag tries to diminish self-made wealthyfag's accomplishments because he can't handle being so insecure about his own failures/circumstances".
Jesus what a defeatist outlook you have on life, beind deluded into becoming a stereotype of the "class war" shitposter, ultimately not because you were raised poor (as I was) but because you found it a convenient reason to justify your lack of achievements. Get well soon.

>>42351072
>I did my part, cleaning, cooking, doing groceries with my mother, up until I became a teen and started helping out with administrative paperwork, work for my dad, still do a lot around the house.

WOW, clearly you know what it's like to be poor, you had to do fucking CHORES, holy shit bro, such a hard life

>>42350989
What do you do as a career?

>>42351083
He's a NEET

>>42351007
Tfw this is pretty accurate

>>42350989
Private schools are for faggots, faggot

>>42351072
>still claiming he was raised poor

DELUDED

>>42351072
>I virtually made it without their help
>virtually

hmmmmm

>>42350795
Wait, wrong.
The gain fat from face down and lose from legs up, at least if I remember it right.

What happened to /fat/

>>42351066
>they all claimed they were poor...
So what if they really were, idiot? Do you even know about shifting class demographics? In the civilized world, the middle class is booming. Of course statistically you're going to see more and more people who will say they grew up poorer and made it to wealth ultimately. It's how society works, people are supposed to get richer as they go. But how would you know, you stagnating scumpond?

>>42351081
Yeah, because being poor simply amounts to how much chores you have to do right? It's not about how much money you or your providers make, how well you eat/are sheltered right? I was answering a question about what I DID during childhood, iliterate fag.

>>42351083
I'm a particle physicist at a research lab of the public university from which I graduated.

>>42351103
>>42351110
stay mad poorfags. you're not better than the niggers who want slave reparations. I'm just glad not all poor people have your disgusting mentality.

>>42351139
Ah, now the sneering richfag bastard mentality has come to the fore

I think we're done here folks

>>42351072
You really sound like a fucking arrogant piece of trash

Who the fuck cares even if you're a rich nigger, why brag about it on fit

>muh selfmade
>muh parents made me work hard!!!1!1!!1
>implying chores are hard, faggot

>>42351139
Why is it so hard to admit that you went through childhood on easy mode? Why do you have to invent hardship? Is it some sort of guilt?

>>42351141
>sneering richfag bastard mentality
where? I'm responding in kind "poorfag".

Never gonna make it, all of you who took it to this extent of proving I was born and not made, are clearly not going to MAKE it because you think it's BORN. Good luck though.

>>42351139
>So what if they really were, idiot?

Because when some rich fuck claims they understand poverty because they once had to clean out daddy's stables, it's obviously bullshit

Kind of like what you've been doing this entire thread

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>>42351139
>implying I'm a poorfag
>implying I'm not stronger, bigger and leaner than you
>mfw arrogant "my parents dindu nuffin"

Mfw my car

>>42351139
honestly man, you were lucky. Your parents had a shared vision of what they wanted and did it. By supporting each other and sticking to it. Most people do not have that.

>public university
Oh, now I understand the smugness.

>>42351153
Who's saying it's impossible to make it?

When you're a child you are practically entirely environmentally determined, people who claim that people who were rich as children do not understand what poor people are like as children doesn't mean they don't think adults can change.

You somehow think that doing chores for your parents, and then your parents became rich, means that you somehow did that. You didn't, it wasn't your success.

>>42351072
>I did my part, cleaning, cooking, doing groceries with my mother, up until I became a teen and started helping out with administrative paperwork, work for my dad, still do a lot around the house.

Jesus Christ, imagine being this sheltered.

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should I go and get 10,000 calories of mcdonalds? yes or no

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>Lost 11 pounds in two months by counting calories

Holy fuck how stupid I've been, could have realised how easy this was earlier

>>42351177
Sure, I can definitely agree that there was some external factors like my parent's predetermination for me to pursue a private education up until end of highschool has INTELLECTUALLY set me on the right path for financial success.

>>42351188
I said I made it for myself after leaving the house, 18, idiot. You people even read?

>>42351201
yeah because I'm sure you LARPing poor faggots were coal mining age 8...It's not about what I did anyway, I never claimed it somehow gave me bragging rights to say I was poor, I said I did my part because someone here said "never did anything during childhood" because he assumed I had three maids and a gardener.

>>42351176
everything about your post screams social status signalling. I never did anything like this. Also learn to read mate, I never said my parents did nothing, they raised me, then I made it after graduating all by myself. Nice car dude, btw, you're everything wrong with "new rich" people mentality, as soon as they get a bit of money, they go and spend it on useless signalling shit like this. Good job trying to appear more virtuous than me, really. Meanwhile I never tried to appear more virtuous than anyone in this thread, rich or poor, i just made an initial statement which contained an opinion and was asked further details on my socio-demographics so that people could get a read on where I came from. People took it as an invitation to deviate the purpose of my statement towards a classic class war debate.

>>42351268
Fucking no, did you expect someone here to encourage you to do that?

>>42351276
>Ferrari faggot here
>first little bit of money goes into a car to show status
>implying I am the new rich
>implying you shouldn't spend money on things you enjoy if you have the means to do so
>implying I want to look virtuous and not show you that you're not the only rich fag here and that it means absolutely nothing on a fucking anon fitness board

you're the faggot here, it's an anonymous fitness board and you're talking about "muh I made it all myself" whilst bragging about yourself plus where you're implying you've had such a difficult life

Stay a faggot, faggot

You know that feel when you are skinnyfat and already lost 8kg and still have fat around your belly and think about how terrrible you must have looked before and wonder how man more days of cutting you have to do. October here I come.

>>42351324
>implying I am the new rich
yeah, I only implied you were the "new rich" because I had the decency to assume you wouldn't boast about your car if you came from old money and did jack shit to get it. Very disappointing of you, anon...You're making even more of a fool of yourself.

I'm not saying don't spend money on what you enjoy (if you do have the means), I'm saying it's a common trap for new rich people that the first bit of money they get goes to something useless, instead of an asset or investment that has returns.

>first little bit of money goes into a car to show status
so you're saying you're not "new rich", yet your "first bit of money" (as in that you actually worked for I assume? since you said you aren't new rich) goes exactly into something a "new rich" would buy. Even more pathetic, someone that comes from old money, needs to "show status" (kek if you were really rich, it wouldn't matter), yet still does "new rich" tier transactions. Get help faggot, you're going to bankrupt. But I'm sure daddy will save your ass.
Now this is the kind of richfags the other guys were talking about.

>it means absolutely nothing on a fucking anon fitness board
yep, my point exactly thoughout this whole argument following my first response. But am I the one to blame if it goes there, since people were vehemently asking about my class/financial stability? No, I'm not taking responsibility for having some accountability and displaying what I have when it's relevant to letting others know where I stand on a societal topic like first world problems. So it's only more relevant. I'm not here to signal as I said in the post you responded to. Learn to read.

>>42351035
>protein powder
>weight less

anon what meme did you fall for this time

>>42351407
>implying my first few shekels were put in that car or anything threatening my financial future
>implying my dad was rich
Sorry senpai, I married into money at a later age

Also I'm pretty sure I'm alright with my current finances, making a solid 18% return on my main assets a year is pretty stable, while doing regular flips on the side which are the sources of extra income which make me buy a car like that

All I'm doing here is showing you that there's always an anonymous faggot bigger, stronger, faster, richer, more social, better at anything you do. That is for everyone, so no need to brag about yourself with your amazingly well paid "phd" job

And yet again
>implying you buy a super car for the status, not for the fact that you really enjoy driving fast cars
If that's your initial goal, then you're the one making a mistake senpai

>>42342792

Drank flavored vodka, ate jolly ranchers, and drank a fruit loops milkshake yesterday. Woke up same weight as yesterday. No ragrets.

>>42351659
wow...
I'm going to point you first to your initial statements, then your responses. I hope you see who's the one making the mistake here :

>first little bit of money goes into a car to show status
>implying my first few shekels were put in that car or anything threatening my financial future

and :
>first little bit of money goes into a car to show status
>implying you buy a super car for the status, not for the fact that you really enjoy driving fast cars

And I'm the one >implying?? Here's the rundown :
1. You are effectively illiterate and mentally retarded, thus why you had a cognitive lapse of judgment and mistakenly made the first series of statements. Free pass, it's not on you being a downie.
2. You were lying by ommission about why it was being your first little bit of money because you wanted to make it seem like you had that kind of money fast after starting working, meanwhile you just admitted in this post that you actually married into money. So you did in fact have a "new rich" behavior.

3. You're actually outright lying about the origin of that money, and it's more plausible that it was mommy/old hag that paid your first car, but you were too afraid to say "mummy gibs me first bit of money to accessorize her meathead pet that I am so SHE can actually signal status and cope in front of her rich friends about marrying a mediocre illiterate meathead" so you just narrated it as "first bit of money" to make it seem like you worked for it. Judgment : Despicable.

4. Even more pathetic, your sources of extra incomes and assets all come from mommy/old hag wife lending them to you for "management", and they're not actually yours, you're just waiting on her to die (which you probably are like the meathead you are).

>marries into money
>all previous comments imply he wasn't already rich himself
>lives off another person's provisions
>claims he is better than me at anything.

Verdict : KYS

>>42346212

Oh, Hanako. It has been awhile.