steroids general

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n-nNOOOOOOO I miscalculated and forgot to bring enough gear with me for summer

>>42031474
trip on poor cunt?

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first for big booty bitches

>bad sugar cravings
>only on rest days

Weird. I wonder why it's never on lifting days.

>been able to control details for 2-3 weeks
>dedication starting to wane
>keep eating carbs and have to dnp hard to right it
Fucking hate long weekends. I just need to get back to my regular routine of things

>>42031712
work lunches are a killer for me. Not overly worried about the calories more the quality of food. Still rather excessive cardio then DNP ever again.

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>>42031459
Natty is lurking...
These threads are comfy

>>42032037
I loved lurking when we actually had an interesting group of trips. Now its become so boring that i feel compelled to contribute

where do you even find steroids? Do you buy them online? Does that stuff not get tracks?

What is clarence0 using? Test and tren?

>>42032083
we would have more if people in the threads weren't toxic towards tripfags

>>42032168
Who you calling a toxic tripfag you circle jerking monkey?

>>42032131
mostly online. LawE don't have the resources to go after every loser buying a few vials. Shit gets seized and you get a record for your address.

>>42032161
ask him

So I've been on tren/ test / winstrol for 5-6 weeks or so

This weekend, I went to my buddy's cottage for 4 days and drank a moderate amount, nothing insane, every single day

Every single day, I vomited profusely. I've never gotten sick like that off of only having maybe 5-6 beers in a few hours. Literally casual drinking this weekend made me sick as fuck. Am I dying? Is the winstrol and tren crushing my liver?

>>42032168
I've considered using a trip to have accountability for what i say but decided against it because i would have accountability for what i say

>>42032184
learn to read you dumb trip reeeeeee

>week 9 of babby's first test e cycle
>bulked too hard and got bloated and fat
>normies back home said I "bulked the fuck up"
>feel like a disgusting skinnyfat fuck
>day 1 of cut commenced earlier today

>alone on military base for 4th of july

F-fuck yeah guys

>>42032216
As far as I know, drinking alcohol while on test, tren, and winny is a big no no. Once in a while is okay, but not "moderate amount" like you said.

If you're not experiencing signs and symptoms of what you described right now you're most likely fine. Just take it as a lesson learned.

>>42032216
> Am I dying? Is the winstrol and tren crushing my liver?
No, yes

>>42032224
>I've considered using a trip to have accountability for what i say but decided against it because i would have accountability for what i say
Same desu senpai

>>42032224
I did think about tripping, but I'm still way too small.

I autistically like to think I'm the a protégé learning under the big guys (4 me), then once I get big enough after a year or two I would start tripping and offer advice based on my experience to those looking to leave humanity behind

Be the role model you wish you had I guess

>>42032246
Plus the demand trips get for timestamped current bodies and im barely above reddit tier.

>>42032261
I thought about tripping too but i dont get enough (you)s in cbts for me to think anyone is mirin enough to want my natty advice

>>42032287
>natty trip
definite no

>>42032294
>natty trip
I think you mean Alex

>>42032261
I'll trip once I get pubertal gyno removed. Not cause I have a great physique but because I can be held accountable for looking like.shit.

Need some advices. Injured my wrist today and probably can't lift for at least a month. On 4th week of test E, 1st week (two pins) of deca and EQ. Should I stop the deca and EQ completely or continue pinning since they take so long to peak in serum anyway? Should I drop the test to a cruise dose? I have a shitload of all these compounds, so money isn't a concern.

Pls help. Thanks.

>>42032338
Just keep pinning if it's only gonna be a month, no reason to have your levels flying all over the place, and eq and deca have some long ass halflives. They still won't be fully kicked in by the time you're back lifting. That's why frontloading is a thing.

Any resources for getting better at pinning? I had to cut my last (and first) test blast short because I got an infection in my delt that I ended up aspirating myself. Shit was scary.

Pretty much every time I would pin I would get bad PIP. And this was after trying a couple different oils, and warming the oils sometimes.

My technique must be shit.

>>42032294
>>42032313
But Alex was dyel as fuck, then again i like being anonymous

>>42032353
Look up "IM injection techniques" on youtube, there's probably a bunch of nurse training vids.

>>42032353
the wiki has an injecting page, look at it. vg and glutes have good videos iirc

>>42032372
all of these are awful because they're of a nurse injecting a patient, not self-injections. it's actually super different for most sites

>roid to have no life or friends

>>42032378
Thank you.

I've pinned friends and relatives a Bunch of times without major issue so it must be the self-pinning thing.

Thanks guys

>>42032224
Reeeee im retarded sorry

>>42032396
Post cuckdiary

>>42031484
Fyarkkkk

>>42032338
ive read about EQ having regenerating properties on connective tissue too. you should even up it

Tren is making me go through my gfs phone and computer. Didn't find anything.

Tren makes me feel alpha and beta at the same time.

Air conditioning recently broke in my house. That combined with tren e and Florida weather created perfect conditions for a deadly swamp to appear in my bed. Wife rolled over to cuddle last night and immediately woke me up with her screaming and yelling at me for pissing myself. She still wasn't happy when I explained it was sweat, though I can't really blame her. It's some gross shit.

The only solace I'm taking from this is that this must be prime product because I've never had this happen before.

Are peptides bullshit?

GHRP-2, etc

>>42032469
The consensus is actual steroids are more effective and cheaper or equivalent in price so why bother?

best time to take mk677 and any tips with using it?

>>42032469
no they aren't

>>42032476
and this guy is a retard

peptides are an entirely different thing. they're not like aas, they're almost never used for performance.

>>42032469
use it with a ghrh and it can be pretty good but you can get chink gh for so cheap these days its kinda pointless

>>42032476
most people that run peptides run them with roids

>>42032476
What about for recovering from injuries/surgery? Worth the money?

>>42032489
>he fell for the peptides meme

Make sure to stock up on our Jewish supplements too goy

>>42032494
tb 500 and bpc are good for that
ghrp not so much

>>42032494
Just run Chinese HGH

Is it possible to overtrain on a test only cycle?

I'm about 10 weeks in to a 16 week cycle and just feel like shit - no energy, soreness everywhere, no motivation. I've been eating about 4500 cals a day and lifting 6 days a week, 2 hours a day. Should I cut back my frequency, volume, or increase calories?

>>42032519
You can still fry your CNS m8, I'd swap a lifting day for cardio/active recovery.

>>42032511
I'll check SST. Not sure what I'll be spending for it

>>42032519
Yeah it's possible but chances are you're not. You could be overloading your CNS, which is different from overtraining. I would take an extra day off and see if you feel better after two days of rest and goods night sleep.

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>on TRT 200mg weekly
>do psmf and go from 205 to 190 at 5'11
>still a fat bastard with no muscle
>barely lift
Should I just try recomping at this point?

If I'm in the middle of a test e 500mg/week cycle and bulked myself a bit too much into a fat and bloated fuck, should I do the back end of the cycle on a modest cut/recomp or just keep bulking through and cut on a cruise dose?

>>42032580
Probably half of that was water and glycogen, m8.

>>42032580
Fasted cardio in the morning. 20mins cardio after workout.
Lift as hard as you can. Eat cleanly with carbs focused around your workout.
You are blessed with a good trt dose and from the sounds of it still in the noob gains phase. Utilise this

>>42032616
he lost weight retard

>roiding before age 40
why?

I've never done cardio and had fine BP. Started a test cycle about 3 months ago. Got blood pressure checked. 150/90. Kek. Guess I should start cardio.

>>42032652
>wanting to be at your peak at age 40
why?

>>42032628
And then he'll gain it back in 3 days of eating at maintenance. Wtf are you on about

>>42032656
Frick. I donated blood yesterday. Back down to comfy non red faced levels.

>>42032703
I get those red-cheeks too. Looks terrible

>>42032684
nice cope fatty

>>42032733
Get a tan pasty nerdboi

>>42032733
When I started Bncing I was all like yep gonna be religious with my cardio blah blah blah. So i do 20mins stairmaster after lifting and sprints 3x a week. Still need to do donations, I shudder to thing what I would be like if i didn't do cardio

>>42032684
nah, i got you now. thought you were implying the weight he gained on trt was water and glycogen

>>42032469
TB500 and BPC157 are good shit, not used for gaining though of course.

Are steroids really worth it

Do you regret it at all

>>42033074
I regret not starting them earlier. College would've been a lot of more fun

>>42033072
Doesn't TB500 cause cancer?

>>42033074
Yes
No

>>42032184
lel. no im saying that people treat tripfags like shit often

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>>42033074
I don't regret steroids but I regret this way I did it.
Jumped straight into BnC at 19 y.o lol whoops
But that aside I love lifting and juicing makes it way better so .....

>>42033084
>>42033120
That's great news, thanks

Another question, does anyone drink while on gear? Not talking shithammered at the clubs but having some beers or some whiskey? Drinking is a super social thing, usually when I meet a girl for the first time it's for a drink. Can that be continued on gear?

>>42033154
Why do you regret jumping into BnC? Cycling is obviously bullshit and a waste

>>42033168
Depends what compounds you're on, and what ancillary drugs.

If you're in orals like winstrol, that's a no-no

>>42033178
Just test I'm assuming is fine then?

>>42033169
I lacked the lifting experience and was a dumb kid. I agree the body likes consistency and BnC is far more consistent... but I tried to come off not long ago and my fertility is viable but my natural test it pretty much non existent.

I seriously don't understand how people manage dorsogluteal injections solo. some crazy twisting shit

>>42033217
>natural test is non existent
Fuck. I'm halfway through my cycle and wany to BnC afterwards. But I'm 20 years old.

If I BnC'd for a long time and eventually stopped, would my natty test levels be pretty much gone?

>>42033084
I dunno when I Google search tb500 cancer it's a bunch of steroid forum posts

>>42033276
I think it's been proven conclusively that even the longest BnC'ers can recover with proper PCT. and HcG.

Thought that may only apply to those over 25 who started. I don't remember. Anyway, TRT isn't that horrible to do forever if needed

>>42033084
>Doesn't TB500 cause cancer?
if you already have cancer it will grow faster but it doesnt cause cancer

>>42033276
You should know the risks dude. I now consider steroids to be a lifetime commitment but tbqh even if my test levels had of come back I wouldn't want to lift naturally anyway, i'd hop back on regardless. To me the important thing is that I'm fertile

>>42033306
P.S to
>>42033297
I definitely think the contributing factor to my levels not coming back was the age I started.

>>42033276
>18 years old and don't have to worry about that because 300ng/dl natty t levels

yay I guess

>was wondering why I was getting such intense pip and why I was needing much more AI than usual (different AI source tho) on this blast
>source shipped me T400 instead of 250mg/ml test e
W H Y does T400 exist and more importantly W H Y are canadian sources so fucking garbage

>>42033391
how did you find out?

>>42033467
I complained to the source and he told me there was a labeling error with that particular batch

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Me?

Frank Horrigan.

Seceret services.

You'll not go anywhere from here.

>>42033476
well I guess it's just an unintended frontload with free gear. I'd say it's a win.

>>42033507
do you have any idea how bad the pip is with 400mg/ml test e? it's fucking bad. I don't know how they make this shit hold but it can't be without a crap ton of supersolvent

can someone recommend a stack that will boost cardio and burn fat?
Im happy with where my musculature is at this point and id like to reap the benefits before summer runs out.

>>42033517
its not 'supersolvent', the ugl is just lame and probably uses high BA (causes pip because high BA, then causes more pip because BA leeches out from depot causing steroid to crash) instead of high BB

>>42033575
Steroids (not tren) + ITPP (boosts cardio) + do cardio.

>>42033391
the retard that starts with a t?

>>42033674
you know it

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If you only do Test E, does it still mean you roid?

I mean your body produces it naturaly, so that means I'm natty right?

>>42033742
Depends, do you look natty anon? You have grown well past the bounds of natty lifting right?

>>42033742
Damn, his obliques are massive for a guy his size.

>>42033742
Did you run adex and nolva too? kek

>>42033742
Its just a naturally occurring supplement

>>42033742
Are you natty if you take creatine?

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>>42033758
Hell yea I look natty.

>>42033794
I'm gonna take nolva if I get some signs of Gyno.

>>42033795
Agreed, I'm just as natty as em youtube fitness gurus like Twin Muscle.

>>42033797
Are you natty if you took all your mums birth control when you were 14 to try and kill yourself?

>>42032580
>Raising the minimum wage
>ever

Fuck communists.

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>at block party
>tonsof lolis
>jungle asian loli in sundress hollahooping

Whew lad

>>42033879
U wut

>>42033575
Eq + test

>>42033944
forgot to say asking for a friend

>>42034034
Sorry, no.
Thats performance enhancing. Estro is anabolic.

Although most hormonal birthcontrols also feature antiandrogens
Thats why women are such bitches

Will I still gain muscle/strength on a slow cut while blasting 600mg test

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>>42034133
well at least i got these sick titties from it

>>42034310
is that you lmao

>>42034302
not really. not real muscle, maybe you can gain strength.
remember: cut and bulk etc

>>42034302
Strength yes, muscle mass.... maybe but I would expect not to.

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Fuark I need snack ideas for my mPSMF diet.
>70g carb on solo cardio days
>100-120g on lift days, lower fats from 100 to 75ish
>need 245g protons daily without drinking a ton of shakes
I eat usually 6 hb eggs, tuna/chicken. But I'm tired of eating 20oz of chicken a day.

how much testosteronium do i have to drink to get out of dyel mode?

>>42034392
yeah buddy you mirin? ;)

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Hey guys i commented a couple days ago and didnt get much help.
Been off cycle for 4 months, but i still pin my ass to keep fresh with my pinning abilities and this way i dont lose my overcoming of my fear, making it hard to start again.
I wanted a better simulation, more than just an empty needle on my butt...
Would it be harmless to do like half a cc of bac water into my ass?
Thanks.

>>42034669
Take your skills to the next level. Learn how to do IV with rubbing alcohol

>>42034669
You could try antifreeze

>>42032216
Wow. You're an idiot. A six pack a day while on tren and winny.

How does it feel destroying yourself for your shitty body? You deserve to die for drinking for 3 more days after the first time you got sick.

>DNP DAY 16
I fucked a different girl every day of July so far.

I'm down to less than 180 from 195lbs

Still holding water, dehydrated af

Only 250mg

Been drinking so much its a problem, all my coworkers at the bar make me drink after work and i have no willpower (hence the DNP)

>tfw not gonna be shredded in time for my trip bc I drink and eat shit

>tfw lazy cunt who's gonna OD on rat poison / industrial dye / dynamite ingredient and cook himself from the inside out

>tfw i don't afraid of anything

>also on 100mg of "anavar", 700+mg Caf, 24mg Eph, and like 40mg cialis ED lmao

>tfw dancing with my gaybro coworker for a laugh, and he hooked me up with his hot af roomate and smashed her :^)

>>42034769
>mfw I haven't pinned test in almost 10 days bc I've been so busy

>mfw my dick isn't working bc test is dropped

>mfw no face

>tfw natty
>tfw hard time controlling body fat
>tfw low energy and libido
>tfw possible gyno
>tfw stalled
What means? Do I need an AI? Does it have to be pharma or can I do it through diet and lifestyle?

>>42034814
get bloods

>>42034819
It's such a hassle with commie healthcare

>>42034872
>What means? Do I need an AI? Does it have to be pharma or can I do it through diet and lifestyle?

Dude you have no idea what you are talking about. Get your bloods done to assess if you are low test. An AI is irrelevant to a natty regardless of low t symptoms.

>>42034919
I doubt that I'm low T, I hit 320 wilks in less than 2 years, which is by no means exceptional but It'd be really difficult with low T.

>>42034935
Well if you dont think you are low t what exactly is your question?

>>42034965
I believe I might be high E and am asking how to control that, preferably without pharma.

Could very possibly also be cortisol as it seems the majority of my fat storage is abdominal and suprailiac, am so also interested in strategies for controlling this. I'm asking here as I assume you guys are more knowledgeable than the average poster on endocrine issues.

>>42034979
Well i still think you should get bloods then

but

here we go

Whats your diet, sleep, training (cardio?) like?

>>42034992
Currently one meal a day of whatever meat and vegetables, sleep is not good honestly, Bulgarian at the moment so no real room for cardio.

Issues started appearing when I was peak weight and running Sheiko over and over.

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>>42035015
i've been memed and will now seppukku

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>>42035041
>tfw you are sincere about your issues and people think you are memeing them

>>42034539
y-..yeah.. no homo though right? since boobs n all

>>42035048
lol the high estrogen just made me think you were a retard but then the one meal a day was the last straw. well played anon

>>42035058
I'm cutting and am trying out IF, what's so wrong about that? It's a big meal obviously.

And why would high estrogen not be a possibility? I was probably close to or at 30%bf at my highest.

>>42035056
pm for more big boi

>tfw afraid of getting a workout buddy because they will inevitably find out I fraud and hate me for cheating

Reeeeee I don't want roid back zits nor eat the anti zit rat poison

>>42031459
Hi Guys
I have been blasting 800mg tren with TRT test for 5 months in a dreamer bulk and I have gotten incredibly strong and muscular. No problems during the cycle I had a very angry mindset in the beginning of the cycle but over time that went away.
I just finished up my last vial of tren and im ready to cut on test but the problem is ingrown hairs have gone up hugly recently and I belive it is due to tren. It has never been this bad before and it is all over my lower neck. About 1 1/2 weeks before tren leaves my body and I am hoping it goes away. Anybody have a problem with ingrown hairs on tren?

>>42035067
Just do a dnp raw ground beef suicide cut and be done with it

>>42035179
You think that would clear it up? I've lost a good bit of weight but body composition doesn't seem to have improved much at all.

>>42035067
Most importantly, how old are you?
Puberal hormones plus the fat could give high e spikes and subsequent gyno.
If thats the case and gyno cause is past you should look into nolva and raloxifene. Otherwise a endo and bloods

>>42035320
I'm 23, I guess it's possible and all, but I doubt it.

>>42035179
did that guy rebound it all?

>Cuddling with gf
>her laying on my arm aggravated my shoulder

FUCKING REEEEEEEEEE GAINS GOBLIN

>>42035376
>believing dnp raw ground beef suicide cut has any significant rebound
I gained abouy 1 kg after two weeks of eating normally. At this point though I'm almost back at the same weight albeit with less fat this time :^)

>>42035067
you're a fat piece of shit because you're a fat piece of shit, no other reason

>tiny lump under top of nipple
Please god let this UGL Ralox be legit

>>42035551
Kek, why do you wreck your shoulders?
You should go easy on those during blasts.

>>42031712
Try this
>Move house
>Sign Up to new gym
>Get Flu
>Get better
>Gym is closed for rest of the week for some reason

>>42035179
MY FAVORITE MEME I'M CRYING

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Not even 2 weeks of first ever blast and im so fuckign hungry all the time i don't know what to do. I even started thinking about gaining 30 lbs by the end of this year (to reach the number that triggered me to lose weight when i was a fat fuck years ago).

Im planning to cruise after the blast anyway and it will be cold by the time my blast ends so winterbulking could be used as an excuse.

>>42035923
not that it won't work but it's just like

>HEY YOU FUCKING IDIOT
>OBVIOUSLY THE CURE TO YOUR HIGH BF% IS TO EAT NOTHING BUT POISON AND RAW MEAT
>HOW DID THIS NOT OCCUR TO YOU

it's just advised to ppl so casually lmao

>>42035941
its infinite better to reach the goal then whatever the fuck you are doing

>olololol taking dnp cant stop drinking better compensate with roids and poison, not afraid of anything look at me i am soooo cool

>>42036003
That's not the discussion lad. I never said anything about it not being a good idea. I said it's just advised casually as being a good and obvious thing to do to lose weight. Whatever I'm doing is completely irrelevant friendo. I'm aware my shit is fucked up but that's not the point.

>>42035802
Fuck you

>>42035162
lol i got that shit badly until i ran accutane

also how fat did you get, how much did you eat, etc.?

I get steroids are cheating in sports but why would they be illegal

dumb question, If I Bn'C will my blood volume/vascularity stay high all throughout, or will it wear off?

>>42036074
test isn't illegal, you can get prescription.

>>42036094
test?

>>42036094
>opiates aren't illegal, you can get prescription

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>>42036066
>lol i got that shit badly until i ran accutane
Glad im not the only one. I don't have a problem with acne no matter how much I blast but the ingrown hairs are KILLING me. If they don't leave once the tren leaves my body im going to hop on accutane.

also how fat did you get, how much did you eat, etc.?
Pretty fat tren makes me eat like no other and I want carbs so fucking bad. I was craving pizza so bad I dreamed about eating it 3 nights in a row(I never dreamed about anything 3 nights in a row).

Started at 6'4 210 now 250 and im really bloated but not too worried because once the tren leaves my body I can actually diet and hit cardio hard. My arms, chest and shoulders exploded and ill tell you about abs in about 3-4 months lol.

>>42036074
Because its easier just to "ban" something than educate people on it

>>42036045
For what?

>>42036197
Cunt

>>42036210
You sure are a special little dyelflake aren't you?

>>42036221
Nah this is downunder. Where you call your mates "cunts" and strangers "mate". Get offended if you get called a dog

do we have an opinion on useing dnp on only 1-2days per week?
got 6 left and realy dont want to add another 6 days.
so i am still gonna cut but maybe add dnp for 2 days a week to "shoco tje body"
yes no retarded?

>>42036221
he is a faggot yes

>>42036119
so much for "dude tren eat like a fatass and dont get fat"

>>42036514
The body likes consistency. Being in a severe deficite (remember dnp has a long half life) for 3-4 days and then back to normal bmr is just going to make you metabolism shit the bed. Plus r.e. dnp in general hard and fast just to get it over with is my preffered approach.

One of the trips was running a low dose in the pm amd claimed good results.

I want to become a fraud but I'm scared of doing the needle injection wrong somehow.
What do

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>>42035941
It just werks, what can I say

>>42036807
You literally can't do it wrong unless I don't know, you pin your balls

>>42036807
Stop being a fag

>>42037000
amusing coming from you

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>Tfw when call me maybe starts in the gym

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>>42037147
>tfw when Friday starts in the gym

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>>42037147
>tfw remembering 2011/2012 fit

How many times do you faggots donate blood? Today will be my first day. I hate getting that needle sticked on that spot.

Is sodium a complete fucking meme?

>UNSEASONED meat : 1-1.5 grams per 1000 calories
>MILK : 1 gram per 350 calories
>eggs : 1 gram per 6-8 eggs
>bbq sauce/ketchup/etc : 1 gram per 60 calories

pretty much anything you cook will guarantee you at least 5-8 grams of sodium if you're a bodybuilder.

hell, a normie buying regular food off the convenience store/fast food can hit 5-8 grams of sodium at just 2000ish calories.

it's 100% impossible to hit the meme 2gram bullshit our ((Government)) recommends unless you eat unseasoned meat without any sauces and mostly unseasoned plain rice, bread and pasta.

>>42037499
Asking this shows you don't understand nutrition or how minerals work. Sodium in that range is a joke. The key is balancing high sodium with other minerals like k and mag, while keeping a healthy amount of water in you.

getting ready to run my second cycle. Would 25mg ed of DBOL for a six week kick start be enough? first cycle was just test e.

>>42037499
are you fucking retarded

no shit someone buying fast food hits a high amount of sodium?

just googled eggs. "eggs: 1 large, 62mg sodium"

so unless you buy your eggs from mcdonalds you are full of shit

>>42037000
My love for plumb juicy cocks is none of your business

>>42036833
Really? I remember reading some horror stories about injecting it wrong somehow in the glutes and resulting in swelling / pain / some other bad thing

>>42037499
1000 calories of ground beef is 200mg of sodium
350 calories of milk is about 360mg of sodium
8 eggs is almost a gram... if you fry them. boiled it's about 500mg
ketchup is 800mg for about 100 calories, and that's an insane amount of ketchup (10 fast-food sized packets)

where the fuck are your numbers from

>>42038414
>Really?
Yes as long as you pin an actual muscle. Draw to see if you burst anything if you want to be really sure.

>>42038565
tons of things can go wrong even if you actually make it to a muscle lol

>>42038661
Not anything significant unless you do something retarded like flexing it with the pin inside

>>42038491

nutritional label on a grocery (UK, so we actually have real food).

100 grams of raw chicken breast -> 120 cals .3g salt

unflavored yogurt 100 grams -> 62 calories .1 gram salt

chinese/bbq/piri piri chicken pieces -> 250cals .6g salt

12% angus minced steak 100 grams -> 180 cals .3g salt

>>42037520

i guess it helps then that I like to eat all types of beans, even better than bananers.

>>42038661
>tons of things
Literally nothing if you don't move the needle or flex. I can't even think of an extreme circumstance where something could happen, short of you falling over or pulling it out and shoving it back in repeatedly.

where to donate blood in Ontario, lads? All the Blood Canada shit I can find pretty much says they'll blacklist you if they test your blood after donation and see you're fucking with your levels without telling them

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>>42037429
also would like to know

>>42038790
really where did you read that?
I was looking on their site and didn't see anything about not being able to donate while on roids
I need to donate as well, been b&c since november

>>42038790
>>42038864
you can donate just fine on gear. Accutane is a giant no no though.

I go through a provincial thing and I'm not in Ontario though so... dunno about blood Canada's rules specifically

>>42038675
>>42038731
flex?? what do you mean

>>42038914
doesn't the hormones get into the blood bag and the next person get all roided up?

>>42038972
>flex?? what do you mean
Have you never flex a muscle?

>>42038981
No

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>>42038972
My little new frauder can't be this dumb!

>tfw cheating on your gf in public and using the new snapchat map feature to track where your gf is at all times
d e v i l i s h

I'm going to follow /r/steroids your 'first cycle' cycle (15 weeks of 500mg testC). But I don't know what to run for pct.

1-Nolva

2-Nolva + Clomid

3-Clomid + Aromasin

A-So what should I do, and at which doses?

B-That same subreddit also says to use aromasin throught the cycle. Is it necessary? Will it cause any problem if I take both within the cycle and for pct (3-)?

>>42039305
Nolva 20/20/20/20
Have aromasin on hand if you need it, i don't use AI but better safe than growing tits

lmao

just donate blood almost fainted.

YOU ALRIGHT SIR?? NO, i feel dizzy. You should eat, NO I AM ON MY KETO DIET I CANT EAT SHIT FOOD

everybody looks at me fucking weird while i run away and almost passed out at the door.

it's funny when then wanna measure my blood pressure they need to get the biggest band they use for fat people

Is converting raws worth it? I've read they're caustic as well. I'm afraid of my ass.

>>42039427
>it's funny when then wanna measure my blood pressure they need to get the biggest band they use for fat people
>fat people

I have some bad news MasT, they have a swole band but they only get that for people with muscles.

Also
>not draining yourself
Donating blood in NL is such a pain in the ass.

>>42039510
It's fucking retarded to do. What if something goes wrong. I don't wanna take the risk.

Why is that? You only need to fill in a form and they will check your hb for free. That's all i need to know. I don;t see the pain.

>>42037429
donated once my first month of starting. 2 years later and haven't donated since.

they still call me.

>>42036074
>>42036192

probably for the same reason a lot of drugs are illegal: stupid people would hurt themselves

>>42039708
Stupid people SHOULD hurt themselves. That's just how natural selection works.

>>42039542
What can go wrong? Just take your own blood like they do, fuck I do a better job at it then most of them.

If not I'll let my sister draw blood, she's a nurse.

Donating is a pain because you have to set up an appointment.

>>42039963
i don't know, putting a needle in there seems too risky.

Not over here. I just receive a card that i can donate blood within two weeks of the stated date. I can go whenever i want.

>>42038790
I donated blood in Quebec 5 months ago

They usuallynsend a letter or something when something's wrong with your blood
And i was on test/tren/adrol

Somewhere in Canada there might be a little girl with an enlarged clit snapping at her parents

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Do steroid powders, such as testosterone, fully dissolve in high ethanol solutions like 190-proof Everclear?

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possibly upcoming fraudulent here.
i was looking into steroids and i want something easy, cheap and readily available so i thought about dianabol.
i've been reading and i have come to the conclusion that 20mg dbol for 4 weeks followed by 3 weeks of pct would be somewhat alright.

does anybody have experience with dbol only cycles?
If not dbol, do you recommend another (oral) steroid?
injectables are out of the picture.

>>42040896
fuck off retard

read the op

>>42040903
this has NOTHING to do with sources

>>42040909
He's telling you to read up on why oral only is stupid but you do you b

>>42040923
i know oral only is definitely not optimal and i would be better off running test e or test cyp for a first cycle.
but thing is my living conditions are so that i cannot have syringes and vials stored.

>>42040946
Yeah I figured sounds like if you want to make adult decisions it means being honest with your family or getting your own place where you can do as you please. Good luck regardless but you're fucking stupid. Cheers don't ask this again.

>>42040570
No

>>42040946
I can't imagine a situation where you absolutely have to do steroids but can't store vials and pins

>>42041106
i dont have to do them per se, im just curious about it and i would like to gain a bunch of muscle quickly.
have been working out for around a year or so

>>42041124
if you really wanna go the oral only route do sarms it's not as good as pinning still, but better than dbol only, less sides, you won't deflate as much when you come off

>>42039042
>>42039005
kek. my brain must of done a dumb

Does any male take HCG injections? If so, what are your experiences from it?

>>42041171
im doing my first cycle of rad140 tomorrow possibly.
if i see good gains i might post pone the dbol cycle, if not i might go straight into dbol

>>42041171
Dbol only is okay as far as orals only goes because it produces a fair amount of estrogen too. His profile won't be complete shit, it's a fair replacement for test. He'd just want to run 20-40mg for like 6 months. In all honesty unless he's traveling a fuckton (which he admitted he isn't) test is still by far the better option.

Ok boys im gonna cruise instead of doing pct, what is the protocol for this? Will I never be able to have children?

>>42041341
A normal cruise is like 125mg pw enough to restore you to good natural levels.
Alot of people cruise on 200-250mg mysrlf included. It means more sides level increased blood count but there is no reason you cant still make really consistent gains on it or cut fairly aggressively.
Whatever you choose do it for 5ish weeks. Get bloods to assess whether your test is in your desired range and whether an ai is necessary.

>>42041377
thanks senpai

Tfw tiny gyno lump from anadrol

Pls Ralox work or I'll kys myself

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>>42041079

Would heat effect solubility? Var seems soluble under the correct mixing conditions though has some crystallization issues when not ground properly. Is it the same with other base powders?

>>42041662
Need advice

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>>42032583
I guess my question was too boring

Looks like it's back to cutting with IF and fasted LISS on Yohimbine hcl....

>>42041762
Good boy nobody likes a tubby

>>42041609
Different steroids have very different solubility in different substances. Theres guides to dissolving just about anything online. Heat almost always increases solubility though

>>42041609
please don't try to make oral testosterone with test e powder

>>42041779
>nobody likes a tubby
Haha y-yep. Better to be lean but small than to overbulk from skinnyfat to fat-fat, r-right?

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So if I want to leave the natty realm I literally just have to
>Buy syringes
>Get Test E from some shady dealer online
>Inject it into my left cheek once a week on the same day

What do you guys do for bacne?

How much do your cycles cost you guys in total?

I'm interested but a student.

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>>42041930

Wasn't the thought - the liver would completely filter that. To my knowledge, infesting after dissolving in alcohol is only viable with orals and Winny; the thought was actually something entirely different but it's difficult to find info on dissolving various powders straight into an alcohol solution like Everclear as the more obvious use (ingestion) is fucking stupid.

From what I've found, Winny mixes easily, Tren does so with heat, and a Test may do so as well. If anyone has any additional info on the solubility of powders within high ethanol solutions, let me know. I'm moreso curious as to whether they would hold their mixture once dissolved in heat.

>>42042027
twice a week, buy different needles for quads n ass and rotate

>>42037726
pls respond

>>42037726
Yeah, it would be enough.

Get ready for some bloat.

I love the pumps DBOL gives me, but holy shit I get bloated as shit if I don't take at least 12.5 asin ED.

>>42042106
first cycle cost me 230 USD. Test E, DBol, aromasin, nolvadex, pins. 15 week cycle.

>>42042199
noted, and thank you. Just didn't want to cut myself short.

Just pinned

I only have enough test for another pin or two

This is fucked up

I have an appointment with a doc for this week

Trying to get my bloods done and continue with another 10ml vial

>>42042214
I take 25mg every day. On days I lift I take 25mg an hour before I lift.

So maybe an odd question or newbie level

How do you know how much AI to take?

Its in pill form and they say cut in half for 1 pill a week?
1 pill = cut in half
Twice a week

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>>42042253
>Do you guys get a bunch of 10ml vials for a year or something?

>>42042249
There are different AI's.

Half an asin won't crash you.

Half a letro will.

The choice is yours, you decide if your estrogen lives or dies.

any medfags here? last autumn after a seemingly regular illness I got a constant pulsating feeling all over my scalp, along with urticaria. both of which I have had since. I take antihistamines every day that works decently for the itching, but the head pulsating is still there and I have no idea what to do about it. it makes me fatigued as fuck and gets worse when I'm tired, so it could be the other way around as well, I don't know. I'm suspecting BP but not really because how it came with the urticaria, has remained with it and urticaria has nothing to do with BP.

>>42042269
>Half a letro will.

Yea, I'm not taking letro and will find another doctor if they try to give me letro

Its either ARIMIDEX® (anastrozole) or I take nothing until I do research on the other compounds

I'm staying away from letro

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>>42042266
>Not having enough test to cruise for 2 years
Wew

>>42042266
I always keep enough Test E to cruise the entire year. Then some to run more than needed.

>>42042282
I'd cut it up into quarters. 0.25mg should be more than enough every other day, if you are experiencing estro sides.

>>42042294
I do this legally and with a doctor who specializes in this

Good luck with running all the shit you're on and still being a neet on a thai basket weaving forum

>>42042276
>suspecting BP
Why don't you just take your BP?

>>42042276
antihistamines, like benedryl, can give you high bp.

/fraud/

I have an online source I can use however I'm worried about shipping directly to my place and using my CC

Any ideas if this is dangerous to order online?

The source is legit according to online reviews from the community

>>42042348
your cc LMAO

your source is fake

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>>42042348
What country are you in? Worst case scenario is customs seize the package if you're ordering international.

Lurk some forums to find a domestic source with good reviews.

>>42042348
never use your cc.

use btc.

and understand you can be ripped the fuck off at any point.

shipping should always be on USPS if in the states. Fedex and UPS check their packages.

>>42042322
I went to the doctor about these two things, but they just looked at me like a question mark when I explained about the scalp pulsating (I did explain it as scalp contractions which was probably a bad idea even though it feels like that), and just cared about the rashes all over my body from all the scratching. They did look up bp but didn't comment on it, so that's why I've been hesistant to look it up myself. Will probably buy a BP device which is a good idea anyway when frauding.
>>42042340
I got the scalp thing before I went on antihistamines though. Specifically october, when I went off cycle in july. So I don't think it's fraud related either. Desloratadine btw.

Could someone take Test just 3 months in for maximum early gains?

Yes but you'll probably hurt yourself.

>>42042314
Rude, why are you so mad senpai? We all are friends here?

>>42042434

>Getting tired of the way I get treated in /fraud/ threads

I'm a member on a steroid/cycle forum and everyone is nice and respectful to each other and it is expected, on /fit/ most are dicks for no reason and assume you're some 150lb 17 year old looking to run a first cycle

Tbh I'm just getting tired of this place, some people are cool some are dicks for no reason

>>42042398
It's a bad sign if you're already this impatient when gains are as good and as fast and as easy to come by as they will ever be and your body doesn't feel run down to shit for accumulated wear and tear yet

T. Natty lifter who's been lifting for 10 years

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>>42042448
Are you mad about the meme image? Honestly i was gonna post a happy frog but i found the other one funnier

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What's a good beginner babies first stack

Spoonfeed me please, so much contradicting information online.

>>42042552
stack/cycle

>>42042552
Creatine and Sdrol

>>42042571
Sounds intresting.
Any reason just doing Test E for 10 weeks is a bad idea? (300mg or 600mg)

>>42042670

not enough effective time

>>42042743
>effective time
Do you mean how the effect fades off too quickly?

>>42042763
10 weeks is too short. do 20

Easiest way to get bitcoin?

>>42042904

:)

I'm wondering as well

Bitcoin = buy steroids

>>42042904
localbitcoins dot com

>>42033391
When did you order from that Canadian "t" retard? I got like 4 vials of 250mg/ml from him at the beginning of June. Haven't injected any. Now I'm scared of this T400 PIP

Getting bitcoin is easy, in fact one can buy it with steam gift cards (so it is totally unlinked to your bank acount) in localbitcoin.

However I am afraid of that custom stuff; I know it's not common and happens only in small percentages if you have bad luck, but I am afraid of losing my money because of some idiot custom officer checking my mail.

>>42043094
then don't roid.

or buy from people face 2 face

>>42038491
sodium and salt aren't the same thing m8, you have to account chloride atom in salt, meaning each gram of sodium is ~2.5g of salt

How easy would it be to find a buyer face to face in socal / camp pen area?

>>42043321
BTW if you want to buy F2F be prepared to pay several times the price people pay online

>>42043321
surely you have some friends that roid? you're not a friendless loser right? Just ask them if they can order ur stuff for a little extra

>>42042992
I've used his t400 and didn't get any pip but I was running a low dose

>>42042949
too expensive

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Almost 2 weeks onto anadrol and t400 now. T400 was the biggest mistake ever for 1st cycle

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Week 2 of pct and i dropped almost all of my gains.
Arms shrunk 2 inches
Waist grew 4 inches
Lost abs
Deadlift 1rm dropped from 495 to 385
Bench 1rm 325 to 245
Squat 1rm 445 to 395
...so yea lol. Diet, pct, and training on point too.
Cant believe this

>>42045018
damn. what was your cycle and what are you doing for PCT? might be bunk.

Might've snapped my shit /fraud/ wat do?

came home after the gym today and saw bruises and black blotches on my lats and biceps. No aches or pains, I was hydrated, low sodium, simple 500mg Test E cutting cycle. am i pushing myself too much? too much volume? thanks in advance

>>42045018
First few weeks of pct suck. It gets better around week four.

>>42045018
>2 inches off arms, waist blew up 4 inches
kinda hard to believe especially about blowing up 4 inches. thats not gonna be fat.. but how can it be water either.

How big were you prior to pct

>>42042882
So
600mg Test E
20 Weeks
Left Cheek once a week
Ye?

>>42045774
600 every week, but done in 2 different shots. it gives you more stable blood levels

>>42045810
Same spot or alternate between 2?

>>42045817
the more the better, learn at least 4. 6 preferable.

>>42045289
i wouldn't worry about it

>>42045018
you sure pct on point? guessing you're not running ai throughout pct. you will lose size to to losing glycogen retention, but you shouldn't add 4 inches to waist. cycle and pct?

>>42045845
if you rotate that many sites, wouldn't none of the sites will get accustomed to the pip

>>42045916
no, and pip isn't that bad anyway.
glute maybe 4/10 discomfort
ventro 0/10
quad 9/10
delt 3/10

>>42045932
quad 9/10 for discomfort? how the fuck are you pinning your quad?

I only pin my quad because I don't have to fucking stretch to see my ventro and I don't like pinning my delt. For me the quad is basically painless.

>>42044908
>>42044918
Way too much bodyfat and too less mass to even think about gear. Welcome to dyel fraud club

>>42046331

we refer to these salty faggots as gatekeepers who want to prevent young people from skipping the natty meme altogether because they're butt hurt they didn't start earlier and pissed away all those years as a nattycuck

>>42046474
Actually apart from that, if youre dyel, there is a variety of reasons that roiding may barely improve your gains.

Inconsistent diet and training - cant grow much at all

Little muscle mass - not much muscle to make enough micro tears to take advantage of roids when you take noob gains into account as well.


Though that guy looks like he can take advantage of roids though.

>>42046585
You do know Test is good even for newbies, right?
It literally causes your muscles to just grow by themselves, but the gains from sitting on your ass is still not much relative to working out.

>>42046606
>still not much relative to working out

And there again is your problem

Consistent training (and diet).

I don't miss calf doms

>>42046606
>>42046474
HAHAHAHAH that explains why you're still dyel like the rest of you pathetic losers.

That is the same excuse every dyel uses. NO YOURE NOT FLEX WHEELER OR RONNIE COLEMAN that grows just by looking at a barbell. You have shit genetics. And you're too poor for slin + GH tren combo so fucking eat that food that is needed and stop being such a utter pussy that every time uses that same excuse to be skinny

>>42046585
What if I was dead set on roiding and my first year of natty training was strictly getting diet in check, form and consistent training?

Aka preparing to roid, which still counts as proper training I suppose.

>>42046919
That's not gonna work, because most are lazy and don't believe that tren is some magical position that will make them look like ronnie coleman in two days.

If you just train natty first to master the nutrition and training part and then start gear, you will benefit it much more.

Without food you don't grow, simple is that. Most of you eat like anorexia patients

At what age should I consider roiding? I planned to start when 20 (next year)

>>42047569
when you bulk, do you only eat clean, or do you eat crap as well?

>>42047588
21-22

>>42047793
Always clean.I only have 1 sort of cheat day where i mostly eat some candy or other crap between my normal meals. Not overdoing it.

I could never cheat on my diet on a regular day. I would feel miserable about myself.

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>tfw phlegm has hardened on my lungs and I had to cough to such ridiculous levels to get that solid, coagulated shit out that for 5 hours or so it felt like my right-centreish chest felt like it got stabbed and hit with a sledgehammer
>if I do any sort of exertion I might cough up and aggravate it, it doesn't hurt normally but if I fough or something it starts having an ache again

Fucking hell mates, how the fuck can I train?

>>42046919
If you can consistently train and diet itll be fine, but most people cant, not from inability, but from lack of discipline I guess, usually takes experience to actually do it.

I have trouble with it too.

If Anadrol only has an 8 hour half life, once a day dosing of 50mg leads to a peak build up of 57mg, meaning why dont we just take it pre-workout on workout days, could also do higher dosages than you normally would as well.