/FAT/ General - "No edition" Edition

Drink yakult if you are having troubles shitting normally

>>41956451
>thinking about posting about how I spend 2-3 days without shitting now
>anon reads my mind
thank you

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How many flights of stairs can you climb before you get winded?

Two I'm ok, three I have to breath heavy to recover. I'm hoping to climb a mountain next year so I'd like some perspective.

Before I started losing weight, this 1156 step stairway totally wrecked me. I'm hoping to try it again soon.

Really tired to the point of passing out tonight. I still hopped on my bike to work out because this is the time I usually work out.

Whatever it takes to make it

Going on holiday from tomorrow

Will probably break diet a bit, but I am going to be walking many hours each day so hopefully that justifies it.

>>41956648
That's the spirit. Just don't hit the "pain is good" mindset, if you have an injury stop and get it checked out.

>>41956659
If you are the same guy from last thread, you can be aware to some degree of how many calories you are eating and burning, even on vacation.

Nothing so fucking strange than family, friends and coworkers trying to sabotage you... I can only imagine it's not malicious but its so strange.

>I know you're being good but have some of this giant giant cake
No thanks
>go oooon
No thanks
>Have some!
Repeat

I'm down 64lbs and it's beyond irritating not to mention i'm beginning to resent some of these people

>>41956943
iktf. My mom is completely idiotic about diet and nutrition. Knows absolutely nothing and has an unwillingness to learn. Her knowledge is limited to whatever fad diet or meme advice she maybe one time kinda sorta heard.

My sister also bakes a shit ton of sweets and just leaves it around the house even though she's supposedly on a diet (her body says otherwise). Luckily I hate her too much to give her the satisfaction of eating her food, so it's not tempting. Thanks, spite.

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>started at 315
>goal is 175
>currently at 246
>tfw almost at the halfway mark

I'm gonna make it, anons.

I never had this problem before I started losing weight, but I'm down 75 lbs now and feeling great about my progress..BUT... I don't feel like doing dating(OKC, POF, Tinder, etc) until I make it to my goal weight. Part of me now feels that I am worthless unless I make it. Is that weird?

2nd day back on the bandwagon of good eating, first day back in the gym. Cigarettes die tomorrow. It's easy if I just don't have one in the morning.

Went on a week long binge of shit food and alcohol. Scale didn't move at all. But I realized I didn't feel any better or happier, so what's the point of doing that shit? Literally just slows me down.

Onwards. Sort yourself out.

>>41957025
Gj keep that shit up

Starting my 20 day water fast today


Wish me luck


Will only be taking salt and bcaa pill once a day

>>41957092
RIP Anon.

No one actually do this please. Keep a realistic deficit and exercise if you aren't losing as fast as you want. It's a crazy idea, but it works.

>>41957113
imo the people who do these "water fasts" are fatasses who won't a magic lose-weight-quick option because they have no willpower, which will cause them to break the fast after a day and just binge themselves.

No one who is healthy would ever advocate extended fasting.

>>41956543
Do it nigga

Hiking is the best

>>41957130
I need to restart by body and stop my addiction to glucose

>>41956430
I MADE PEPPERED BEEF JERKY AND ROLO COCKTAILS IN MY MOUTH AND IM NOT SORRY

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>plateau at 183
>cant stop thinking about food

Maybe you've noticed other benefits on the way to making it /fatg/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsVzKCk066g

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CONFESS

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>>41957202
I went over in my calories today. Though I did increase my bench and deadlift. I plan on making homemade pretzels tomorrow. I have no clue how many calories they have. Sorry in advance.

>>41957202
My shins hurt and I ate a whole carton of laughing cow

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>>41957230

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181cm. I jumped from ~80kg (already fat) to ~90kg after taking meds that makes me gain weight. Stopped taking them but never lost weight again. Started practicing sports 5 months ago 4 times a week. Didn't make a difference still at ~90kg. I don't drink or smoke, stopped drinking carbs 2 years ago. Hard to drop sugar but even cutting all sugar I don't seen to lose weight. Even so I think I'm eating way less than 2,7k cal a day thats my TDEE.


The only thing that worked for me was keto, and I gave up after less than 1 month. Started lifting 2 weeks ago. Keto is incovenient but I don't know what else to do.

>>41956430
Stupid question for you. On the diet side of things, is the change in ingredients in ON protein powder that people are spazzing about on amazon actually an issue?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3NUSJ416QW472/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000QSNYGI

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2VOWXNLCGRV7J/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000QSNYGI

Is autism about sucralose and xanthan gum an issue?

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>>41957147
Honestly, I hate heights. But I feel like it's a goal worth setting since I'm getting fit anyway.

>>41957226
If you are making them, you know what's going into them. You can find out the calories in that shit, man.

>>41957025

second half is harder than the first. good job anon, don't stop.

>>41957149

okay well I'm pretty sure that you could accomplish that in 2 or 3 days at the absolute most. don't put yourself totally out of commission for 20 days, that's bad for you in ways other than cico

>>41957267
>sucralose
Personally I don't like this one because it seems to mess with my blood sugar. Usually gives me low blood sugar. Lucky me though I got a big bag of the old stuff that should last me a good while.

If it bothers you then buy another brand or use ON naturals.

>>41957283
http://www.onceuponachef.com/recipes/soft-pretzels.html

Yeah, after looking up all the ingredients and doing the math. Total pain.

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>>41957394
You can import the goddamn recipe into MFP. Do you want to make it or not?

I just did it for you. I'm so upset with your shit you've given me more motivation to not half ass it like you.

lost an absurd amout of weight this week (2,5kg), didn't trust my scale, moved it to my kitchen with a more even floor, still says i lost 2,5kg. I don't believe it.

>>41957255
Do core exercises for flatter stomach, like vacuums, planks and such.
When your gut hangs like that it means weak core muscles

>>41957255
>I think I'm eating way less than 2.7kcal

I found your problem. People always underestimate their own caloric intake. Actually find out how much you are eating, and then cut it down to 2,000 kcal (if your TDEE is really 2700).

>>41957442
>You can import the goddamn recipe into MFP.
What do you mean? Look up flour and make an entry?

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>>41957446

could be the result of a water weight fluctuation. don't let it get to you head or distort your expectations. progress, as measured over 3 months or half a year, is much much more meaningful than progress as measured over a week.

that being said, don't become discouraged if next week you weigh in and you weigh the same amount. it doesn't necessarily mean that you're plateauing - your water weight loss might have just reversed. water weight fluctuations can mask fat loss just as easily as they exaggerate it.

if you get stuck at the same weight for a whole month, then you're plateauing and you have a problem. but don't let the exact week-to-week numbers get to your head too much.

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>>41957487
No, you can literally copy and paste the text right from the website in a single block and it'll give you approximate matches. It's not as accurate as doing the work yourself, but at least it isn't completely giving up.

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>>41957487
>>41957508
In conclusion, don't you quit on me you fat fuck

>tfw need to lose another 40lbs by august 21st for when me and the lads go to greece

dont think im gonna make it

>>41957159
Height?

>>41957630
What's your height and current weight?

>>41957653
>6'2"
>220lb

>>41957669
Yeah 40lbs in less than 2 months is not likely. But aim for 20 m8. I believe in you

Help me out here /fat/, I need some strategizing for these next couple of months.

I'm heading back to school at the beginning of September and want to look slimmer than I am now. I'm currently weighing 204 lbs. and measure at 5'10", floating around ~26% body fat. My current method is cutting at about a 800 calorie deficit to slim up, and participating in martial arts a few times a week. I'm not sure what end weight I'm aiming for, but I do want to be within the range of 20% body fat.

Should I stay on track with cutting and exercise? or would I likely look better if I went for maintenance and exercise? Or would bulking & exercise for muscle gain be worth it at my condition?

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>>41957530
I just did it manually because that import thing is crap. Lot of calories for some damn Pretzels.

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why did you go over in calories today?

you could've said no to the donut even if it is offered to you.

>>41957501
i have lost over 30kg at this point, i'm not mad or discouraged if next week is same or even higher than it is now but i'm just not trusting that scale anymore.

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>>41957226
FUCKING
SHIT

I saw the 1800 cal limit and I was hit with an intense wave of raw, unbridled envy. Budgeting calories for a 5'5" woman as opposed to a man is so incredibly frustrating.

>mfw I have to budget for 1200 cal each day
>can't have any sweets or it wipes out almost an entire meal
>sweet tooth stages a riot every evening and I wanna scream
I'm so freaking addicted to sugar, it's insane!! I won't quit no matter what, but I'm going to be sour about it the entire way down to 125 lbs.

(Anyway, good on you for not going wildly overboard. You're gonna make it, dude!)

Eternal skinnyfat here.
Used to be overweight but got super depressed and stopped eating, went all the way down to 180 in 5 months.
Back up to 195, healthy weight but the 15 pounds is all fat and I have no muscle.

Curious what everyone's perspective is on shit gyms.
My anxiety will not allow me to go the uni gym, I usually go hungry instead of going into stores and that's the only reason I'm not fat anymore.
I have one other gym I could go to, it hardly has people there and most of them are old.
This is because it is a gym for the hospital, so there are almost no weights.
It pretty much has two benches and a smith machine.

My OCD forces me into a "all or nothing" mindset very easily, if I can't do compound weights correctly I don't want to do it at all.

Any advice m8's?
I have no concern with changing habits and doing shit, I'm not lazy and have changed my diet many times.
My troubles are focused more on autism.

>>41957904
this argument just doesn't make sense, you eat less yes but your body also needs less. You shouldn't be hungrier than an average man trying to lose weight.

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>>41957792

Pretzels are just bread, of course they have a lot of calories.

People think pretzels are healthy because they aren't fried, but they are still calorie dense.

I'm glad you learned about what you were putting into your body.

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>>41957942
I wasn't making an argument. Just envious feels about being able to eat more, even though it only means he needs more.

>>41957942

I kind of see where she's coming from... eating more is more satisfying / fun. it just feels better to eat more substantial portions, I think, even though your needs scale according to your size

>>41957904
>I saw the 1800 cal limit and I was hit with an intense wave of raw, unbridled envy.
Don't be that jealous. I started at 256lbs and I'm down to 237 in less than two months. A severe deficit for my height and weight. Also that one log has more snacks than I would normally eat, meaning usually it is no snacks.

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>>41957904
>I can't have sweets or it wipes out almost an entire meal

Eat smarter, not harder. This is my treat every day, one square of a Cadbury chocolate bar.

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So close I can taste it
All I want is a good body now. It's my only constant in life is my weight loss, It's all my life is.
So close

>>41957904
>tfw skinny 6'3" lanklet and have a TDEE of ~3000 calories

>>41958064
>tfw skinnyfat 6'6" lanklet with a TDEE of ~3400 calories

>>41957226
Maybe don't make pretzels? You ate enough for 4 days.

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>>41957780
You are fat enough to gain on a cut piggie so keep cutting.

>>41957226
>>41958237
Cutout the butter, dressings, and deserts and you have yourself an easy way to lose weight anon.
>inb4 I need dressing
You learn to like vegetables.

>>41957904
keep at it buddy, im the same, used to eat 2 pints of ben n jerrys at one go then i quit cold turkey, now the cravings for sugar are a lot less.
also lost about 22lbs lifting and keeping track of calories, so theres that.

>>41958043
God speed anon

>>41957780
>want to look slimer
>decide to eat less
>"help /fat/"
????
Do you want /fat/ to give you magic berries that convert fat into muscle tissue?

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Just got my first pair of athletic shoes. I always assumed it was a scam, but man are they comfortable.

Hey fat fucks. /fit/izen here that never went over 15% bodyweight ever. You jealous? You mirin'?

I hope all of you make it. Good luck!

>>41958479
its hard to be jealous when you are what is normal, but thanks for the best wishes m8

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>join /fat/ and get super excited
>make a bunch of bernds and spend a few hours a day on /fit/
>go from 103kg to 87kg
>actually look good with some muscle definition from running and bw exercises
>stop coming to /fat/
>balloon up to 93kg
>come back to /fat/
>go down to 89kg
>look like absolute shit because I simply lost all the muscle and look fatter than ever
every time I lose weight I lose it from everywhere except my man tits. Every time I gain weight it goes straight to my man tits. What the fuck is going on, they're just comically large now. Should I just become a trap?

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>>41958807
The real hard part is maintaining the weight you lost. I lost multiple times weight just to gain them again and some...

>>41958478
New Balance are an underrated brand. Every pair I've ever bought from them is comfy as fuck

Yesterday I binged and ate at maintenance :(

Is it possible to lose 2kg in 4 weeks?

>>41958989

Yeah. I've lost 6 in a month which is roughly 4 weeks

>>41958989
Yeah, that's like a pound a week. I think you can lose up to about 2.5lbs a week without problems, can't remember where i got that from though

>>41958989
yeah 500 calorie deficit will do it

>>41958989
>>41959029

4 weeks = 28 days, 500 calorie deficit per day --> 28*500=14000, a kilo of fat its around 7000 calories so that your two kilos right there

>>41958989
You can lose 2kg in 2 weeks safely, my guy.

Lost 5 pounds in two weeks on a 700 cal a day diet :(
Hard work for meager results.

I've started a routine of deadlifts, bench presses, and squats every day. 50 bench presses and 50 deadlifts with 25 squats (genetic issue causes horrible knee pain, thanks mom).

Should I be doing more or less? And how long should I be lifting the same weight?

>>41959091
That sounds like dangerously high results to me

>>41959091
1. That's probably bad for you, just eat like 1200-1500 and exercise a lot more.
2. That's pretty damn good, -10lb a month is great.

>>41959116
https://mega.nz/#!0Q1EzKYS!_xCrio63rKm7589hCts9YsuhzF-6Gt1vSYrLZaVAEZQ

Wasting a lot of time if you aren't adding weight almost every session as a noob.

Not sure what to do about your knee pain though.

>>41959133
Thanks. And yeah, it kinda blows. My mom's side has had bad knees for generations.

>>41958748
>implying the 15% isn't when I'm bulking
I still legit hope all of you are gonna make it.

I overate today. 2800 calories. Was originally at 2300. Hopefully tomorrow goes a bit better for me.

Im on a 2800 ish daily deficit, eating around 1400 per day with 2 hours of exercise everyday im down from 322 lbs to 307 in just a few weeks and it feels amazing

How do you make oatmeal not taste like shit?

>>41959346
Put some peanut butter in it. Just a wee bit of course.

>>41957040
I'm in the same boat anon. I'm borderline cocoon mode. I go to work for my weekly shift. I have one friend I visit twice per week (I don't have a yard, so we're doing a gardening co op at his place, and we go fishing/hiking one a week), and I go grocery shopping twice per month. Other than those activities, I spend all of my time on physical and mental fitness. I kinda wanna shock everybody when I make it. I just fell off the face of the earth when I decided to get my life on track. I'm down 70lbs now, and when people see me at the store, they notice. Feels good, but I still feel like a disgusting fatty. I get embarrassed when people tell me I'm looking good. It really rustles my jimmies when they tell me I'm looking slim. No, maybe less bloated, but not slim. I'm 5'11 and 280lbs, down from 350. Feels good, but bad at the same time. At least I'm down from morbidly obese to regular obese. I find it more motivating to ignore my progress, and instead focus on how much farther I have to go. I use my depression and self loathing as fuel to improve my life. Got off track here, sorry.

/blogpost

>>41959346
I just force it down

>>41957202
I went on a hike yesterday and came across some wild raspberries. I ate a hand full and didn't log them.

>>41957202
I had a square of cake from the break room and I fucking hate myself for it

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>>41957202
I ate a small dinner last night, and this morning was so hungry I ate 440 calories worth of breakfast when I'm supposed to be doing IF

>>41956943

>you look better than you ever have!
>but you need to start eating more

>you look even better now you lost more weight
>but you really need to start eating more now!

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Sup /fat/ I've been doing keto and IF for close to 3 months. Here is my progress so far... Here is a photo of me a few weeks in.

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>>41959510
Here is a pic of me taken just this morning...

>>41957904

Ive started eating a few figs/prunes as my sigar fix

its working so far, they are still calorie dense but at least they dont have all the other shit that choclate etc has

>>41959510
>>41959529

Been working out as well? At least your lats have become visible.

Any suggestions for meals for OMAD Keto?

>>41957904
I got you bbgril. That's partly why I went OMAD with my cut.

>>41959510
>>41959529
You ate less ketchup packets for 3 months?

Been 181 for a week. LET ME BREAK INTO THE 170S GOD

>>41959614
It'll hold at 181 painfully long, then you'll take some massive shit and all the sudden you'll be 178. Every fucking time for me.

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Have any of you ever sought psychological help for over eating?

I am super obese (at my heaviest I weighed around 385lbs. I have taken ownership of my weight and lost a lot already, but I feel like there's something fundamentally wrong with me that causes me to enjoy food on a level that normal people can't identify with. I spend every waking second thinking about food to some degree. I have coping mechanisms that help me to diet and have managed to adapt somewhat, but I feel like it shouldn't take this inhuman strength of will to resist gorging myself to the point of sickness, which I have done countless times in my life. Something has to be psychologically fucked in my head.

I guess I just don't know what the fuck is wrong with me.

>>41957075
Keep it up anon, the first week is rough, but the meme of food tastes better after quitting is really true, I noticed it about a week in

>>41957202
Beer, glorious beer, I need to get rid of/give away what I have and buy no more

Make blueberry pancakes for breakfast for my mom and I, and the rest of my meals are planned out already. Feels good :^)

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>>41959845
I know when I get stressed and upset I overeat. I'm really small and something will stress me and I'll go crazy...

Work was really stressful last week. I was at the salon after work and on the way out I grabbed a chocolate mint from a dish they had and that sent me spiraling. I stopped at Five Guys and got three Bacon Cheeseburgers, two orders of fries, two cheese dogs, and a large drink - only leaving after I ran out of money (I didn't order it all at once, I kept just going back up for more). Then I drove home and put two pizzas in the oven, and made an entire box of De Cecco Rigatoni with some bottled sauce. I ate all that, then went in the pantry and ate two boxes of cookies, two bags of pretzels, an entire bag of macadamia nuts. To put this in perspective my bmi is 16.4.

>>41957202
I went way over on calories yesterday. But, my run this morning felt great.

>>41959845
>>41959845
you're just addicted to food. It's the hardest addiction to beak because you always have to eat. most addictions you can seperate yourself entirely. imagine a heroin addict who had to inject himself daily but only 10% of his regular dose, imagine how hard that would be.

you have to set guidelines for yourself and never break them.

>>41959845

Food addiction really is overlooked. While there aren't physical withdrawals compareable to drugs, the cycle can be as difficult to break. You might get ridiculed for seeking help online but it's your health that comes first.

>>41959892
I think you need counseling, that's unreal.

>>41959971
Yeah, probably...

>>41957202
Beer is too good desu
I just try to cjt back on food and use more whey to try and compensate

>>41957931
I would say figure out a way to deal with the anxiety and go to the uni gym, that anxiety isn't just going to magically go away for you and developing those coping mechanisms are going to so much more valuable to you than even the gains. Most ppl at the gym aren't going to give a shit about you anyways. If you can't do that then get a pullup bar for at home and look into good bodyweight programs.

>>41959892
good lord

>>41959892
do you throw it up or is it a once in blue moon type of event?
I'm wondering how there can be little consequences to that kind of behavior.
Ever thought about talking about it to a professional?

>>41959940
>hardest addiction to break
Smoking has the highest chance of relapse, but users will eventually quit altogether.
Heroin has an extremely high relapse rate and most users will never quit.
Eating disorders are not that bad on relapsing. Binge eaters only make up some 10-20% of the relapsers for eating disorders.
It's really not that bad, the human body and food are a natural process.
Injecting yourself with heroin isn't.
So the body will often tell you when you've eaten enough.

https://www.promisesaustin.com/blog/sobering-look-addiction-relapse-rates/

>>41959995
I've been working on it all my life, and been getting better.
>deal with the anxiety and go to the uni gym
When I'm in crowds of people my vision goes blurry and I forget what happens, there's exposure therapy and there is putting someone in a situation so shitty they just regress more.
And of course I know people don't give a shit, logically I'm fine but mentally I'm weak.

Tried pullup bars btw but I live in a shitty place with doorframes that break, can't happen.
Live in the boonies and just searched online, found a gym on a back country road that is cheap, open 24/7, and seems to have mostly free weights.
Might give it a try if I can get some money, but will go autism stealth mode and go there at different times in the night to figure out when no one is there.

>>41960020
I'd say it has happened four times the last year and a half. So, not super common but man when I start..

I do throw up, sometimes even during. My stomach feels so bad after, like it has a rock in it, and the next day I can't even move.

My parents had me with a psychologist + psychiatrist when I was a kid but I never liked them, so just stopped after I was over 18. I think it's a scam. I realize I'm fucked up, but, don't feel like that's the answer. They put me on meds. As soon as I was 18 I quit the meds (which was hard) and stopped going.

>>41957202
Started at 114kg, down to 95 now. I confess that I had a cheat dinner today. I need to cut those back to every month or when I hit a weight goal or something.

>>41960039
hey anon, i know how you feel.
I've become socially anxious every since stopping the mind numbing medication my psychiatrist prescribed me for my bipolar.
I wasn't anxious at all beforehand, even very confident. But now I've stopped almost two months ago, and I've been kinda cocooning at home trying to build a strong base before I go out into the world.
Anyway I go out twice a week usually now, to do some groceries, even though it's a struggle.
I just came back an hour ago from the store.
I had a couple of inner panic moments where my chest tightened a lot, and I flinched a little as a couple people passed down the aisle I was in, but overall I did good and kept it together.
I hate it when it's happening, but afterwards I am happy I was being productive and doing something out.

>>41960062
as you can read up top, I know your pain about the quitting meds part, I'm in the middle of it right now. You're right, don't trade your happiness for normal, I'm sure the drugs fucked you up too, and it'll never be the same. But it can get better. Focus on that, okay?

>>41960111
Thanks. Yeah, they probably did fuck me up a bit more.
I sure feel like they did, and I have a hard time believing they didn't cause some kind of permanent damage. That's why I don't want to see psychologists or psychiatrists anymore. The psychologists are dumb and enable the psychiatrists who are just wreckless.

Good luck quitting your meds. When you get to no meds there might be some lingering withdrawal symptoms, but hang in there it gets better. It just takes a while.

>>41957202
I'm on my third week of running every weekday, but last night halfway through my run I got a horrific side stitch and bitched out. I can't remember the last time I got a cramp so bad I couldn't power through it. Fucker came out of nowhere. I'm still pissed off about it 12 hours later.

>>41960039
Lot of similarities with the exposure and lifting, don't try and do too much, don't put yourself into an unsafe situation, set goals and work towards them.

Going to this other gym sounds good, it's easier to not bs your way out of a workout when your not at home. Stick with it anon and you'll make it

>>41959529
do you carry groceries etc with your right hand ?

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>>41957202
Nothing today Father

>>41957904
Eat a candy bar but eat half of it, should be like 100 cals max

>>41959510
>>41959529
Nice youve lost some rolls, keep at it

>>41957202
Just got myself an bacon and egg mcmuffin.

>>41957202
oh boy...two pieces of fried chicken, mango tempura fried prawns, half a chili beef burger, grilled cottage cheese, two onion rings, pistachio-blueberry sundae, a bit of mud pie...i'm not logging this shit

>>41957202
I just ate half of a "super cookie". Mom bought it for me. I abandoned industrial snacks ezpz, but this shit tastes like little heavenly fluffy sugary clouds.

>>41957130
You are projecting. I'm not the fasting anon, but I definitely would have given a week long water fast a try if my circumstances had allowed it. And I've been steadily losing about 1.5 lb/week for a couple months now, so I'm not just a low motivation piece of shit who can't lose weight the normal way.

IIFYM or calorie control

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One month in. 13.2 pounds down

How to deal with a rough week guys? Should I aim for my regular deficit or just try to go under TDEE?

>>41960453
For weight loss, CICO is most important, but you should incorporate your Macros into your diet. So both.

>>41960455
Nice job bucko. Keep at it lad and soon you'll have made it

>>41957904
I fucking hate being female for this sole reason. I'll never be able to stop counting calories if I don't want to balloon back up because my TDEE is like 1500. I have to exercise six times a week just so I don't beat myself up after eating a single piece of chocolate.

As for sugary stuff, I really recommend looking for low-calorie swaps for typical baked-goods ingredients. I make banana bread/muffins weekly using oat flour instead of AP, apple sauce for oil, splenda for sugar, etc.

>>41960466
Thanks. I thought I hit a plateau this week because my weight remained constant at 231 for 4 days, then I loss my usual 3.2 pounds over the course of the last 3 days. Goal is 200 by new years with a final goal weight of 160 so I'm in the normal BMI for the first time in my life

>>41960477
>I'll never be able to stop counting calories if I don't want to balloon back up because my TDEE is like 1500
That's no different for men, y'know. If I stopped counting calories and eating like I did 30 pounds ago I'd balloon back up too. Welcome to lifestyle change.

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>>41959892
That's a lot of food.

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>>41960466
>Bagel and coffe this morning

It's over for me..

>>41960510
?

>>41959600
not the guy you replied to but i actually got bullied when i was 12 for eating ketchup packets. A family friend was in hospital and horded jam, ketchup, salt and butter packages. Since nobody in my family likes them i would bring them to school for lunch, on the bus home someone called me out for eating ketchup all the time, so i pulled out 2 or 3 packets of ketchup and ate them on the bus, got bullied for the rest of the year for it.

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Post meals of the day, /fat/ties!

Here's what I have planned for my OMAD today (which takes place in about three hours):

>entrées : Japanese Miso soup with shitake mushrooms, tofu and vegetables. (35cals)

>mini vegetable and hummus wrap (red bell pepper, cucumber, tomato, lettuce) (185 cals)

>main course : prawn dumplings dipped in hot and sweet chilli sauce, with a side of cantonese friend rice. (116+104+123)

>dessert : watermelon slice, one peach and half a melon. (80+60+100)

Total calories is 803.
Macros ain't looking that good, though. It's not a big deal since this is a cheat meal to me (first one in two months dieting). I'm very anal about hitting macros usually, but I felt like having a carb "refeed" so to speak.

62g protein (goal is 70g-80g)
151g carbs (goal is usually around 70g)
20g fats (goal is around 40-60g)
Sodium is high (4470mg) looking forward to water retention tomorrow.

for reference my stats :
165 cm
54.9 kg (current goal weight 50kg)
24yo F
TDEE 1544 cals (calculated as no exercise/sedentary)

>>41957780
>800 calorie deficit.

Have fun with exteme hunger and binging.

>>41960601
Not him but I'm /fat/ and 800 deficit is about what I do every day. It's really not that bad.

my bad day is turning into a bad week

>>41957202
I'm cheating this weekend.

Gonna eat every carb I can find. I'm excited to have cereal. I think this time I'm going to try those cinnamon frosted flakes. I've got a freezer full of candy and shit that I've been hoarding for weeks. Going to get some soda and I'm thinking about a fifth of sailor jerry.

It's been awhile since my last cheat day and I've lost 14lbs since then.

Forgive me father for I am about to sin for cheat weekend!

>>41960634
why do you think that is?

>>41960601
not him or the other response either, but I do around 600-800 deficit range every day, on OMAD furthermore, with approx a 23:1 hour window, and I have not binged, nor felt any amount of unreasonable hunger. No issue here.
Just keep your opinions, because that's what they are, to yourself. Feel free to add to the conversation if it's helpful, though.

>>41960616
Oh fuck, read it as 800 calorie limit. To be fair, typically, an 800 calorie deficit might be okay, but it'll still lead to binges.

>>41960648
change of setting
I'm house sitting, it's like the rules no longer apply
be glad when I get home and can't stuff my face then puke it back up any more

>>41959355
They will really start to notice when you're around 240. I have similar stats, around 375 starting. Everyone at work won't shut up about it. It's every conversation I have now. Kind of annoying, but also flattering. If someone asks me whats my secret again i'm gonna lose my mind.

>>41960503
Even at my goal weight my tree would be like 2500 gotta love being tall

>>41960645
>vomit.jpg

Are you going to watch caloric intake, at least, if you go splurging on carbs?

>>41960664
>what's your secret
Just say you stopped drinking soda. Going into a long response will only make people challenge you.
>whoa whoa what do you mean calories in calories out?

>>41956943
Iktf

>>41960675
Gonna pretend I had never went on a diet. I've lost 239lbs so far. I figure I could deal with one bad weekend.

>>41957202
Been off the wagon for about 1.5 weeks. No drastic cheats but probably went over maintenance. It's my fuckin gf and her drama and i let it get to me. Probably breaking up soon. All gonna make it father

>>41960653
You fell for "500 kcal deficit" meme. Eating at a 800 kcal deficit is not some herculean task, even when you're not super obese and your TDEE isn't fucking 3000.

>>41960696
pretty fuckin good m8
you won't get fat in a weekend, but you know you're going to get 2 bites into those carbs and realise you're not enjoying it

>>41960696
holy shit, how big were you at the start?
Yeah, I'm sure two days worth of bad food won't do extreme damage to your weight, at best ten pounds gained back with water weight added, but really it's the discipline loss that might be difficult to cope with. Unless you're really sure it'll be a "one time thing", just to "live a little", and you won't never get out of that "binge window", then do what you feel like doing, dude. Not going to judge you or tell you what to do. Just here to offer advice since you shared it with us.

>>41960718
this. get with the times grampy, it's time to update your 10 year old sticky mentality.

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I don't post here much anymore, but I feel so good about making it I figured I'd pop back in.

That's down 70 lbs since August, and 40 of those in the past 3 months.

20% of my fucking bodymass. Wild.

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>getting 32g of fiber a day
>plenty of fat in diet
>easily down over a gallon of water each day
Why can't I purge my bowels?

>>41960720
I hope so. My last cheat weekend went like that. I had too much food to eat and got sick of it near the end.

>>41960732
450. Last time I felt so sluggish at the end of the weekend that I was excited to restart keto. I did a four day weekend cheat once and gained 14lbs. Took me a week to get rid of that, but I like to tell myself that it's a good reminder of what life used to be like for me when I was 400+ eating all the time every day. It was pretty miserable.

>>41960756
Gratz, anon. How many more left

today my only meal will be a halo top pint lol

>>41956943
>you need to eat more
>dont worry about the calories, just try it!
Bitch, i didnt lose 50lbs to gain it back again

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For the last time, did anyone here do keto? did you notice a higher decrease in waist circunference or fat weight during it than in a normal caloric deficient diet? what about with IF?

please respond, i'm deciding the time i will be running them

>>41960780
This is the halfway point. I wanna be around 200, 6'3".

I've also been lifting intensely, so at least I'll be built when I get there.

>>41960781
what flavor anon? come on give us the details.
I wonder if they have halo top, or a nutritional equivalent in my country. time to do some research. On a related note, today I passed by my favorite ice cream pint at the store (chocolate chip cookie dough Ben and Jerry) and I looked at it good for a couple seconds, then kept walking. Goodbye old self I guess.

>>41960795
I did IF and keto. Keto specifically works on the premise that, once you burn the carbs and fat, it attacks fat stores.

Waist and stomach always come off last though, bro. Don't get discouraged, just stick to it if you do do it.

>>41960781
That's 450 kcal max. What the hell are you doing?

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>>41960756
Why do people post their disgusting feet

As an actually /fit/ member, I still lurk on these boards to find out what's the struggle of the fat community.

You guys are all going to make it, just don't give up. I normally resent fat people but you guys are different, because you guy s put in effort to make a change in your lives.

Godspeed, anons.

>>41957792
did you divide the recipe by the final number of pretzels? or are you planning to just eat all of them in one sitting?

>>41960795
No one can really tell you. There's no way for anyone to compare their loss with keto vs other means because you can only chose a single path. I do keto as a reaction of stalling at 275, down from 375 with just low calorie. I lost weight faster with keto but I'm much more strict now than I was before sticking to less than 1800.

>>41960795
I did keto for about a month, coupled with 16:8 IF when I first started dieting a couple months back. I couldn't tell you which affected my weight loss more, though I can say they both worked to reduce hunger and cravings (satiety from fats, curbing of appetite through fasting).
I worked my way up eventually to the current regimen I am doing which is OMAD (or 23:1 warrior fast) while I decided to stop doing keto as I felt I can sustain the same amount of weight loss with such extended fasting, that I don't need to restrain my food choices. I still count macros though and don't go over 80g carbs on average. I also did some blood tests while on keto and good cholesterol was high, bad cholesterol very low, low/optimal blood sugar levels...there are health benefits, if not primarily weight ones.

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>>41960827
t-thanks anon.

>>41960823
So that your purge succeeds you fat fuck.

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>>41960827
thanks senpai, we are all gonna make it

>tfw can see muscles coming through out of my fat

puts a smile on my face

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Any recommendations for a food scale? Just looking for a good brand if it matters.

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>>41960963
I can't wait for THAT feel.

>>41960994
I got the cheapest shit off amazon 7 years ago and it's still working on it's original battery though arguably gross under the plastic plate.

>>41960889
>>41960872

if any of you boys need help, feel free to email me at [email protected]

t. former chub

>>41960994

find one in the kitchen section at walmart
i bought a digital one, personally

>>41960872
Uou know as you are fat, wojak should be fat

>>41960994
invest in a decent quality digital one (none of that mechanical scale bullshit, it will get stuck or imprecise) and if it requires special batteries (like the round flat ones) just pick up a bunch at the same time to prepare for when the one inside dies (if there's one inside).

>>41960994
Bought the cheapest digital one i saw and it works pretty good, can weight up to 5kg, own plate, it doesn't need to be some 100$ shit

>>41957837

Think again fat dancer.

Brought in 2 dozen donuts for my meeting this morning and didn't eat a single one myself :^)

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>>41961047
I'm actually 4.9kg from goal weight, Dom.
Just a skinnyfat girl who sticks around here for motivation to lose the last few kgs.
But you're right on principle, everyone should use the wojaks associated to them. My collection of female wojaks is pretty low though, so I make with what I have when I can't find the proper reaction.

>be less fat
>discover I have pectus carinatum
ho hum

>>41961107
ah shit, how bad is it?
If it's the sternum, you can even it out with a solid thick abdominal wall, and good obliques.
If it's the ribcage, you're going to have to work on lats and pectorals to become huge so that it'll look somewhat proportionate.
Just an idea from an amateur anatomy enthusiast.

>>41961132
it's bad
I'll look skelly no matter what

>>41961100
Why did you think it was okay to save something from ifunny and post it here?

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Anyone got advice on puffy nipples? I already cut down to 72kg (182cm) but havent seen any decrease of my bitch tits yet...

>>41961142
no you wont? what do you have to lose?
do you want to stay a skinnyfat demorphed guy all your life? Or are you willing to put in the little amount of work it takes to get decent looking?
At best you'll fix it by covering it up with muscle, and making it look invisible by contrast of how big the rest of your body is.
At worst you stay like this and remain complacent in the fact that you've been given an obstacle in life.
It's time to lift, focus on upper body if you really want results fast, you can always work legs later.
Good luck.

>>41961189
don't think I belong here
I just didn't want to be fat

>>41959659
Exactly what happenee to me lmao

Shit I feel like an idiot.
Yesterday or the day before I posted about how HIIT was getting harder and harder. Today I set the saddle up one notch. It was so easy. My legs barely hurt compared to two days ago, and I did more than twice as many intervals and all at more than 100 rpm for the full 30 seconds, which was my goal. I mean it hurts, but, it feels good after cooling down a bit.

>>41961178
eh, it's a picture I came across while searching for girl wojaks on the web. didn't see the watermark or knew about ifunny before, really. who cares? people post gore, cp and other disgusting shit on an hourly basis, but of course a meme from a "normie" source is too much to handle. Fuck off with your elitist stance, I know you're doing this because you're afraid 4chan will turn into 9gag if people lower their standards, but clearly the meme originated from here and was simply repurposed by those normies.

>>41961107
>>41961189
How would you even check for that while still fat? I always felt like I had a big rib cage.

>>41961186
You have body dismorphia, looks normal to me.

>>41961186
Nigga nobody gives a fuck about that you look fine

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First time posting here, lurked here a month.

5'4 and 163 when I began, right now 152 and my goal is 120.

I started 1.5 months ago, am I doing good?

I used the tools provided in OP's post and shit.

My initial goal was to be 137 by the end of summer, which I will reach according to losertown, but I'm also going for lean muscle so I will start lifting and try to lose fat at the same time

Today: Ate 440 calories for breakfast (i thought walnuts were low calorie, at least they're high in protein)
burnt 400 calories on the elliptical and kept my heart rate around 157.

How long after a long-term severe calorie deficit does it take for my TDEE to return to normal levels?

Ive been doing about a 1000cal deficit for a few weeks now

>>41961379
doesn't it depend on your weight and amount of activity you do?

>>41961379
The amount your TDEE lowers when you're on a deficit is so small it's negligible.

>>41961379
No such thing as normal tdee

>>41960599
kill yourself weeb

I'm not really losing weight for a month. Background: 187cm 210lbs 19yo. My tdee is 3100 calories. I'm a NEET so I do a heavy workout for 1.5 hours all seven days, still I put moderately active in the tdee calculator. I count all my calories religiously in MFP and maintain a roughly 800 calorie deficit, so I eat around 2300 calories daily. But for the past one month I've been stuck at 210 lbs. My mom says it's because what I lost in fat I gained in muscles but I doubt that. Should I see the doctor?

I'm going to take my recent binges as a sign that I'm cutting too hard
think I might raise my goal to 1,000kcal per day
it's probably smarter to sacrifice a bit of time than to throw it all away by bingeing every other day

let's see how this goes

>>41961347
Is this bait? How the fuck are we supposed to know what your body looks like under those heavy clothes?

>>41961573
>Is this bait?
isn't every post that isn't just blogging technically bait?
that's what a dialogue is, two way conversation

if your post DOESN'T attract a response, then it's probably a worthless post

>>41961555
what are you cutting at now?

>>41961587
750
was working up until recently

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>>41961595

>750

That's nearly Auschwitz tier. What weight are you right now?

I went from 196 to 185 in 10 weeks at 1800 cals per day with no loss in strength.

>>41961615
as of 30 minutes ago, 154lbs
I'm 6'1 if that's relevant

>>41961617
>6'1
>154
Anorexic plz go. This thread is for actual fatties not mental illness.

>>41961573
>>41961585
pic unrelated

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>>41956430
>be /fat/
>doing calf extensions on machine one day
>feel good
>sleep over night
>calfs hurt but i can still walk
>2nd sleep
>calfs hurt so bad that im fucking limping.
>havent been to the gym in two fucking days because my calfs are sore as fuck and I can barely walk at all.

this shit will eventually go away right?

>>41961625
>implying overeating isn't as much a mental illness as undereating

I'm flattered but I'm not anorexic
I just have a dysfunctional relationship with food
so do you

case in point (yes I know about my spine):
https://unsee
.cc/nomizuda/

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Why am I not allowed to eat the same thing every day. If I can do it why is it so bad? I have autism so I actually hate switching things up it's a pain in the ass and meal prepping a whole weeks lunch and dinner is just easy for me.

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How do you get /thin/ while eating like a sane person? I keep eating huge masses of shit in bizarre proportions.

>>41961664
You are 6'1 at 154. Your body is binging because you're already on the low end of normal weight. You do not need to diet and if you're unhappy with your body then you should lift more

>>41961677
eat turkey/chicken instead of ham.

>>41961654
Pain is weakness leaving the body

>>41961691
I can grab handfuls of fat
that means a cut is still necessary, no?

>>41961654
I had that, but with my quads once after helping my brother in law and sister move house once. Was fucking weird, because my legs see daily work with the mountain bike. I guess I need to stop being a little big bitch and use a gym instead of home gym that has nothing to squat.

>>41961705
at that weight and height, no, you should lift while doin a clean bulk

>>41961705
LIFT
I
F
T

>>41961705
If you do not lift, you will be skinnyfat, which is what you are.

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>>41961721
I don't know hoooow

I do two press ups, can't do any more and stop

>>41961749
lift heavy objects then put them back down
repeat until /fit/

>>41961834
do I count as a heavy object?

>>41956943
>go on diet
>tell family
>mom brings 4 big cakes for you to eat "i got you these"
>"oh you're dieting? aw ok then..."

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I'm almost 10 pounds away from my goal weight, but still pretty chubby. I'm going to have to keep dieting, aren't I?

>>41961840
only if you actually lift yourself

>>41961851
Yes. Your goal weight should be in the middle of your Normal BMI range.

>>41961867
*BUZZZZZ* wrong
wrong for me at least
my """healthy""" weight was 30lbs ago
this is me btw: >>41961664

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Why does my gooch hurt when I try getting a boner?

>>41960808

Country? I'm in Canada and I eat the shit out of cool whey.

>>41961186
Try cutting dairy, more cruciferous veg.

>>41961876
Your picture expired.

The healthy range is only 40lbs or so between bmi 18 and bmi 25. so if you were at bmi 21, being 30lbs less than that would put you in the underweight category.

>>41961867
>>41961876
I think this advice only applies if you were to be in the fittest shape, as in for exemple :

current BMI : 20.6 (for 54.9kg)
"Normal" BMI : 22 (58.5kg)

This normal BMI = goal weight assessment would be realistic only speaking of your long term goal after doing a couple of body recomposition, as in only applicable to people who are 10 to 15% for men, 14 to 18% for women body fat percentage.
Until then it means shit, and you'd rather cut to "unhealthy" BMI because either way you are at one having a high bodyfat %.
So cut till you're in the lowest bf% you can go before essential fat, then clean bulk while lifting and essentially, you'll get to the normal BMI level but with an actual reasonable goal weight for a /fit/ person.

>>41960808
everytime i go to the supermaket i spend some seconds looking at the sweets / choco section, then walk away

we gun make it brah

>>41961545
Take a week off training.
Eat less.
It sounds like you're overtaining, which is probably why your body is holding on to weight because of the calorie deficit.

>>41961945
France. Thanks for the tip, I'll see if there's Cool Whey here!

>32 pounds in 40 days
gonna make it

>>41962031
Cheat at all?

>>41962031
enjoy the freefall weight while it lasts
don't get discouraged when it tapers off

>>41962050
Nope, strict diet, no cheat meal/day so far.

>>41961230
thanks for your contribution m'lady

>>41957696
Kek. I lost that in two months, easy. And I was at 78kg.

>>41961979

Might not be, if I'm not mistaken it's a Canadian product

>>41962091
well color me fucked. There's no commercial hypocaloric (hell I could deal with the calories), or hypoglucidic ice creams here. The only "no added" sugar stuff available are sorbets (why even have it, might as well eat refrigerated fruit which I do).
I guess the next step is finding a good whey protein ice cream recipe, and figuring out how to make it without a machine. If you were to make your own ice cream, what flavor would you make? Asking everybody for inspiration.

>>41962072
my best cheat-free streak was 50 days
broken recently actually
bitterly disappointed, but life goes on

I'm going on a two day road trip this weekend. Anyone have suggestions on some shit I can eat that won't totally fuck up my cut that can be found at convenience stores?

>>41962167
what are your restrictions? are you on a particular diet like keto or doing low carb/low fat? How much sugar can you eat?
Give us your daily macros goals, we might figure out something.

>>41960509
It was over a period of like four hours, but, yeah I was so sick.

>>41962167
Peanuts, fruits, baby carrots, maybe some cheese or cold cuts, olives

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>Start counting calories last week
>staying on my deficit, lose two pounds, feeling great
>also started only drinking on fridays and saturdays, which definitely helps me stay less bloated and in my deficit along with helping mentally
>Have gone from 261 to 257 in a week and a half
>yesterday have a bad day for various reasons I won't waste time going into here
>get a six pack of tallboys, figuring i can drink a few and just write down the calories as I go without going over
>see mac and cheese my dad didn't finish in the fridge
>try to cheat by getting a little bit and knock it all over the fucking floor like a fucking aspie shitlord
>start talking shit to myself, essentially have a panic attack, and after I clean it all up eat everything that didn't get knocked out of the pan
>go into binge mode, eat a burrito, a glass of milk, three big handfuls of peanuts,a hamburger bun with mayo on it, and an entire can of corn with spicy mayo and a ton of salt
>the whole time I drink the rest of my beer and get fucked up

Why am I like this? Why does it have to be like this? Why can't I just fucking control myself and get /fit/ I'm such a stupid piece of shit. All of my progress from the last week and a half is probably olbiterated now just because I couldn't stay strong. Should I go to a fucking mental hospital?

To give some perspective I got down to the 261 from 288 over the course of about a year and a half and have fluctuated between 261 and 268 ever since because I keep doing this shit. I'm trying to full commit this time to get fit but it seems like my mind won't let me.

I hate myself so much

>>41962205
how can you eat corn with mayo or a bun with mayo?
jesus that's disgusting, at least put some meat on that

>>41962205
If you're on a diet, you should not be drinking alcohol. Shit ton of calories and all it is carbs, sugars, and ethanol. On top of being fattening it also gets rid of gains. Also, you're more likely to binge eat when you're drinking due to lower inhibitions.

>>41962189

No fad diets just a normal cut. I can eat about 2,370cal a day. I'm usually around 38/38/25 protein/fat/carbs (226g/100g/147g) every day.

>>41956430
I'm a new lardass brainlet who doesn't know what he's doing and I just tried calculating my tdee and it came out to 3146. Does this mean if I eat less than this I will lose weight? 235lbs@6ft. I've been doing 1500cal a day with no real issue.

I've been doing basic exercise for about a week and a half now and can actually do real push-ups, 17 is my limit. I've been doing curls, flies and bench with these cheap dumbbells I got at a yard sale. They are 25lbs each and I do three sets of 15 of each.

Is this okay to start or am I doing stuff terribly wrong? Just want to get fit correctly.

>>41962220
Because I'm a disgusting piece of shit

>>41962225
You're right, I've just been drinking, usually heavily, for the last three or four years of my life (except for one period where I had to stop completely for like three months)

I just have the whole "Fuck it" problem. Like, I'll get on a routine, whether it's a workout routine or a lifestlye routine or whatever, but eventually I have a bad day and there's this little voice in the back of my head that just keeps telling me to give up. I try to fight it for as long as possible but it never goes away until I just say fuck it and relapse into whatever it is I'm trying to avoid.

Also I feel like I'm in a catch 22. When I drink everyday it helps me ignore my deeper problems but I don't really solve any of them, and they just potentiate while I'm ignoring them, and eventually I blow up and something bad happens. But if I don't drink everyday those problems are just screaming in my face all day every single day and still nothing ever gets resolved because I get scared and cower.

I'm just a coward really I guess I don't know.

>Started at 380lbs
>Today was 210
>Still losing about 10lbs a month
>Physically have never felt better thanks to the weight loss and cardio/weight training
>Emotionally i'm a wreck and borderline manic with suicidal thoughts


Really not sure how much longer I can go on before I jump off a bridge. I broke up with my long term fiancee (11 years) and moved back in with my parents (i'm 32) to save money and climb my way out of debt. I'm ok as long as i'm doing something. Today is my only day off this week and I already spent 3 hours at the gym and realistically have nothing left to do besides sit in my room and try not to think about how miserable I am. Also don't understand why I can only sleep for maybe 4 hours a night before i'm wide awake.

>>41962299
wish I felt physically better after losing half my body weight
maybe I do and I just don't notice it over a long stretch of time

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>>41962267

Knock it off with the self loathing you fat sack of shit. It is not okay to not meet the standard. Do you understand? Failure is NOT AN OPTION. Nobody is going to hold you to that standard other than yourself.

>>41962317
Are you just cutting and weight training? I felt ok while doing that but started to feel much better when I got cardio in. Also are you getting enough vitamins and minerals? I take a mix of multivitamins/fish oil to keep my levels good. Even got blood work to confirm I was getting what I need since when the depression first kicked in I thought it might be dietary related.

>>41962299
Anon, are you me?
Bipolar here with severe insomnia as a symptom.
Don't fall for the medication meme, the pharma jew just wants to keep you docile and make a profit. You'll never know what happy felt like anymore if you take meds, it'll turn you into a braindead vegetable caveman with basic impulses like eat, shit, sleep and you'll forget who you ever were in the blink of an eye.
Just don't do it. You can see some people, try and talk to support groups, but avoid psychiatrists at all cost.
Your mental health is at stake.

>>41962299
Try smoking weed

>>41961654
i got a calf cramp last week, it goes away after a couple of days

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lads what the fuck have i done

>>41962299
At least you're not a wizard like me. Always could be worse :^)

>>41962352
Yep, the meds absolutely ruined me. It took me over a year to withdrawal from them too.

>>41962373
Attention whored in a cantonese horse breading forum?

>>41961186

It's mental... Bitch tit's don't go away until you stop being a bitch. Your body clings on to them until you stop being a bitch... Literally nothing you can do unless you go to 2%. Body is still going to hold onto that last 2% under your nipples so you'll just look worse.

>>41962373
might as well go to /r9k/ and post about how pathetic your life has become and how you have no self control

>>41962352
I can't really get on any meds or even really take to anyone officially since for my job I carry a gun and i'd loose it if they even get a sniff of my current mental state. I just get stuck in these mental feed back loops. I think about my ex fiancee and something she did or how I feel like she took advantage of me and ill get mad, then i'll keep thinking about worse things, then think about how I wasted 11 years with her, then think about how I didn't go to college because I had to support her while she is in college next thing I know i'm in an emotional fit.

>>41962370
Have a few times, weed is more of something I do in happy times to enhance them. Last time was when the new Zelda came out and I just smoked up and played for days on end. That was back in my old life

>>41962379
I'd rather be a wizard, i've been out with chicks since breaking up. Chicks that are better looking and in a lot better shape, and i'll be mid pump and something my ex did pops into my head and my dick goes soft.

>>41962373
So much moneyz for food.

Are you happen to be an Oligarch?

>>41962373

Shit anon... What do you want me to say?
Best you can do now is portion it and eat it over the span of a couple days...Minimize the damage man...Do you really expect us lads and lasses at the german bratwurst appreciation community to berate you over this like your parents never did. Take responsibility for yourself.

>>41962133

Not really sure to be honest. I'm sure vanilla protein could go well with strawberry banana.

>>41962373
>£40 for 1(!) pizza

nigga u dumb

>>41962373
>BBQ stuffed
you been a damn fool, son

>>41962373
I've seen that chocolate pizza advertised
let me know how it is

>>41962249
>I just tried calculating my tdee and it came out to 3146
That is far too high. I just set it on sedentary for your stats and it said around 2500 calories. Calories burned from workouts are always overestimated so set it on sedentary. Now eat 1750-2000 cals a day including a lot of protein and continue working out. It's that simple. Good luck.

>>41962433
I've been thinking... I have some leftover chocolate whey and chocolate almond milk, with cacao powder that I could make some brownie fudge icecream with...
But now that you mention vanilla, I think I might cop a bag of vanilla whey and try myself at recreating a chocolate chip cookie dough recipe...Will have to do a lot of math and investigating recipes to see if it's manageable to do a decent low cal, low carbs, low sugar icecream like that. Might be asking for the moon...

>>41962456
this : sedentary + no exercise is the way to go calculating TDEE.

Daily reminder to reestimate TDEE every time a significant amount of weight lost (every 5 to 10 pounds is optimal I'd say depending on your stats) because the leaner you get, the less you'll be able to eat.

>>41962456
Woah thanks

>>41962456

If all you care about is losing fat then this is fine but if you want to keep muscle and strength gains this is shit advice.

>>41958064
>3000 cal.
5'7 manlet here. How do you guys eat that much? I need like 2000 and I've only had 1300 today.

>>41962532
How is eating at a deficit with high protein that will result in a 1-2lb weight loss per week bad advice? Studies say a loss of 0.8% of total body weight is optimal for muscle preservation, that would be 1.88lbs a week for this guy.

>>41961451

Is this true? I thought it was in the range of a 10-20% change?

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>>41962373
>fanta

>>41962568

Because that's way too much of a deficit. A 500cal deficit day would result in 1lb of fat loss a week. What you are suggesting is more than a 1,000cal deficit every day for someone with a TDEE around 3000 which would be a 35-45% deficit instead of 20% which is optimal for muscle preservation.

>>41957276
Don't worry

Unless you're fucking with some hardcore shit, almost all normie accessible trails are very gradual arrays of switchbacks and such. Very few actual sheer drop offs

>>41962633
His tdee isnt 3000 calories. It's 2500 plus whatever he's burning doing a few pushups and low weight pec flies which cant be more than a 150 cals not 500. Actual heavy lifting for an hour doesnt even burn that much.

>>41962706

Scooby's TDEE calc puts his TDEE at over 2,900 with no excercise and at 3,088 with 1-3hrs/wk of light exercise. Anon's numbers are not far off and are way closer than the numbers you are pulling out of your ass.

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Let's see them streaks boys

>>41962421
>Chicks that are better looking and in a lot better shape, and i'll be mid pump
oh poor you.

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>>41962752
>lost 13.5 lbs
>578 days streak

>>41962746
Okay aggressive buddy. I used total body weight formula calc because we dont know his bf %, he can go eat what you think and not lose weight, i really dont give a fuck it's not my body.

>>41962816

His bf% doesn't matter in calculating TDEE. I weighed almost 40lbs less than anon when I started my cut and I have had no trouble losing weight on 2400-2500 calories a day.

Hey if you are struggling with feeling full I recommend I eating SOUP of course but also food that has shitloads of MSG(it's actually sold as a spice) in it, I researched it and learned it's not a toxic Chinese chemical, it's a Japanese vegetable extract, the detrimental effect of it is self-reported headaches that can not be reproduced in front of science.
Anyway it seems to me MSG really simulates a certain feeling of fullness, it'd explain why Asians are so thin despite also being short af since MSG is really ubiquitous in Asia.

>>41962479

Won't know until you try man. When you do figure out the recipe, please share it, I'm sure we're all interested, just not alot of people would put in the effort of trying. I will try as well, and if I find a satisfying recipe I will post it. Even if it's not great, we could use it to improve the recipe.

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>>41962797
I haven't been trying to lose weight up until the last couple of months. I only counted to stay under 200lb

>>41962844
I'm the anon you guys are talking about.

What kind of workout did you do?

>>41957202
I got cheese on my chicken teriyaki bowl today :o(

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I caved to laziness and ordered a personal pizza and some fries tonight, could barely eat half before it felt like I was just sucking down grease. Can't believe I used to just plough through a couple of family sized pizzas with trimmings in one sitting.

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Any tips for getting down to 10%bf? Eating about 1800 a day, TDEE about 2300. 6'3 Currently ~186lb. I'd say I'm around 15-18% bf but it seems like fat loss has just slammed to a halt. I was going down about a pound a week for a few months. Gradually it's been less and less until the past week I actually weighed 186. I was thinking IF but I'm not sure if I should incorporate more cardio than just walking 4-5 times a week or if should drop to 1500kcal a day. Anyone experienced this kinda slowed fat loss gains?

>>41961545
I'm 185 cm tall myself and I've been 210 lbs before. Pro tip: you're a fatass, you shouldn't give a shit about building muscles right now, just focus on losing at least 10 kilos. I'm not saying you should stop working out, but that you should lower your calorie intake to at most 1800, even if it hinders your lifting progress.
When you calculate your TDEE btw, don't ever choose anything but sedentary, otherwise it will give you some ridiculously high estimate. Go 500 below that, exercise is just a bonus, don't calculate it into your deficit.

>>41962940

I started cutting on May 13, I was 198lbs at about 19% bf. I was doing Madcow 5x5 3x a week but I switched to 5/3/1 and I'm on week 2. I go to the gym 4x a week now and I walk with my dog two miles every day. I'm also on week 2 of C25K. I'm down to 184lbs at 16%bf, my powerlift total has gone from 1,035lbs to 1,020 but I've maintained my Wilks so I haven't really lost any p4p strength. I use Scooby's TDEE calc and I use the 3-5hrs of moderate exercise a week option. I started out eating a little over 2,500 calories a day and now I'm down to a little under 2,400.

Have you guys watched /our/ guys Ethan and Boogie podcast?

>>41962752
What app is this?

>>41957025
keep it up buddy, we're all gonna make it

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