/fraud/ - don't let the thread die you motherfuckers ed

>>41866667
idk if anyone even needs the /fraud/ thread right now but I made another one anyway.

Also I fucked it up too. Oh well.

>>41866681
ty for being helpful and considerate

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God my stomach is so fucking bloated and nasty looking. Probably from all the orals and tren.

Would apple cider vinegar help or anything else? I've been taking psyllium husk for nice shits too.

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>>41866681
ilu bby

>>41866724
Probiotics maybe.

>>41866681
we always need a fraud thread

you did fine m8

Anyone here have exp with peptides, outside of PCT?
Thinking on doing ipam and mod-grf for a few months to get a bit of headstart before I do babbys first test next year.
Can I honestly expect 5-8 pounds of muscle gain, with a little caloric surplus?

STOP posting anime, it's for children.

Tfw bulking from skinnyfat to builtfat and nobody can stop me

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>>41866784
I've been drinking kefir but I may need to get that vsl3 stuff and start taking prebiotic fiber to help in general.

>day 2 DNP

Been shitting a lot, thats all
baka

>>41866883
if you're starting from skinnyfat you're just going to be fat

trust me I experienced it

People seemed to imply pinning quads fucks you up where you can't hardly walk. I pinned my quad 3 days ago and I was only sore for 2 days and not nearly as bad as when I did my glute.

Should I just only do my quads now?

>>41867036
should I do my same quad in different spots to get the muscle more used to oil or do the next one now?

virgin muscle, first cycle. All I hate is that this kinda fucks up my chance at doing leg day sometimes

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>>41866915
>>41867105
BRAAAAAAAAAP

Just ordered some Bronkaid to help with my Test300/EQ900 cut.

Any good protocols kicking about anywhere? Also what can I expect?

How much does test e cost on average

>>41867259
30 shekels

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>>41867159
THINN

>>41867259
$25-30 for 10ml 250mg/ml
Or under $1/g for raws

>>41867300
you're one dumb motherfucker

>>41867287
How much is an AI? I want to do a cycle super bad but I'm about to become a poorfag student.

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>>41867353
$45 for 30 25mg asin pills from India. Adex is usually cheaper but it depends what you like. Asin raws are like $3/g though so you could make your own ai suspension if you wanted to.

>>41867389
Thanks lad

Anons, I'm fucked. Halp.

I'm 2 weeks in on my trest+drol cycle and finally starting to see some proper gains, but today I got the final word from my new employer - I'll be moving to another country in a week.

Now how do i go about this? Can't risk taking ronrons to an airplane, do I start PCT now for a week and call it a cycle OR i go inject double for another week, go to the new country and order new ronrons (which will take 3-4 weeks) and then continue cycle as if nothing happened?

>>41867436
>ronrons
are you 12

if you can't take gear with you you can't take pct meds with you either so idk what your question is. a one week pct isn't gonna do anything so either way you're quitting cold turkey.

whether you want to continue 3-4 weeks later is up to you (and why the fuck would it take 3-4 weeks to get new gear? it takes like 3 days)

Is PCT/AI legal in nipland?

>>41867436
Where are you going anon?

>>41867481
Spain.
>>41867471
My question is what i should the week before flight, eat pct for a week or do shitall. Also doesn't take 3 days cause I don't live in the land of le le freedom.

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>>41867398

>>41867505
maybe canarE can help you out if he is lurking

>>41867505
Tryina look into stuff about steroids in Spain for ya, but I'm not finding much. If you've got a surefire way to get more stuff once you get there, then I'd say go for that. Otherwise I dunno m8.

But that's just the opinion of a dude that hasn't even pinned yet.

>>41867398
>Anyone who isn't fat as fuck is not a real women
Fatty detected

>>41867505
either way it's not gonna do anything.

yeah it doesn't take 4 weeks to get gear in Europe either.

>>41867574
XD
lol so funneh

Sup /fraud/

Ordering my complete Test/Tren/Mast/Halo/Var set.

250/720/600/40/40 respectively.

Will I die? I want to be as dry and vascular as humanly possible.

>>41867574

See this girl everywhere, who is she?

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>>41867594
I have no knowledge to share, I only ask you please post before / afters of this cycle because it sounds gnarly and I'm interested to see it

>>41867031
quads are fine, but rotate injection site. don't do the same one more then x2/wk. some people really do get bad pip in certain places, just make sure you're pinning properly etc. I do e3d so I like to rotate quads and vg.

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>>41867823
Only have this one from a month ago.
Currently in a deca bulk till end of July and cruise and cut until October for this stack

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>>41867892
>>41867823
Also have this one right before deca stack.

>>41867892
Shit, mirin. What do you drop down to on cruise / cut? 250 mg / wk?

>>41867970
200mg test, 120mg mast.

Would love to add some Var but fuck my liver would be the end of me.

This tren stack might be the dumbest most ridiculious stack I've ever done but fuck it I want to get huge.

>>41867665
Yeah it's impossible to get around a 4chan ban kiddo

how much can i expect to spend on average in the EU for a test-e 250 or 500 only cycle with everything included?

>>41868149
I pay on average 40 eurobucks per 250mg/1ml 10ml vials.
Syringes are 50 cents a piece with a neelde for both drawing and injecting.

Add in some Arimidex to prevent gyno and pct.
Around 250 euro for a 10 week 500mg cycle wouldn't be too far fetched.

Netherlands btw.

>>41868183
thanks dude. I'm also in the netherlands so that's a big help. I was reading 300-500 online which seemed a bit expensive, but i think they were including bloodwork

>>41868209
Forgot about that one.
I would do them if I were you, that said a single test cycle most likely isn't going to do any major harm.

Order online, do a good google search, we have quite a few reliable places to order from.

>tfw finally decided to buy some walden farms bbq sauce

easily a hundred or 2 of calories of carbs saved each day.

Now I can go ronnie coleman and just slather that shit on all my meat

>>41868183

no hcg?

>>41868241
>ruining perfectly juicy meat with shitty sauce

>>41868240
I'm not sure if i want too use yet, will probably end up trying it down the line though. Just like to have some info. I'd probably go for the bloodwork, even though it's pretty expensive compared to the cycle itself.

>>41868261
Part of the pct.
Not going to spoil everything, some research should always be done by yourself.

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>gf asking if I went out in the sun and got burned because I "look really red"

>>41868293
>lying to your gf about steroid use

>>41868293
anon was dead from high blood pressure later that day

>>41868326
This

>not having your girlfriend pin your glutes

Any of you faggots here actually compete? In bodybulding. Power-fags can go gtfo.

What are your stacks like pre-competition, drying out, improving conditioning, etc.?

>>41868387
Competing is nearly impossible here.

I would love to give it a shot one day but fuck having to put on such an ugly shitty tan.

>>41868350
100% agree. Mine doesn't pin but she certainly doesn't care and will bust my balls about upping the AI if I get emotional. God, she's a good woman.

>>41868462
The only reason she pins my glutes is because I squirted a shit load of blood on the mirror once.
Freaked her out pretty badly. She knows I'm pushing my limits when it comes to gear and working out and just wants to look out for me.
She's a keeper.

>>41868462
She sounds like a keeper my dude. Hold on and never let go.

>>41868350
>Not having a girlfriend
Get on my level fags
S-single master race ;-;

>>41866724
What has your diet looked like? Not accusing just curious

>>41868326
>asking for an irl >roiding for this

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>>41868510
So you're saying all I have to do is nick a vein and I too can be living the high life, never having to inject my own livestock hormones? Definite keeper.

>>41868517
Summer is the best time to be single though papi. Enjoy the hot weather and hit the beach, find a qt in the fall to lock down while you still look good, then glory bulk all winter until she leaves your fat ass. This leads to a gnar spring cut which brings us back to summer.

>>41866991
On test you do end up with a decent amount of gains so long as you're training pretty hard.

Be easier to cut too at a higher lbm. Tough call

I'm about to do my 5th pin..
I've done right buttcheek, left cheek, right cheek, right quad... now I'm wondering if I should do left quad or right quad again?

My reasoning for wanting to do the same quad again is I want to get the muscle more used to it so I no longer get pip even for a day. Not sure if it works that way.

>>41867436
Mail your shit to yourself wherever you're staying at the new country.

>>41866667
One off, ouch.
Where's >>41866666

>>41868580
mailing shit to yourself works when inside the same country, like when you're traveling to another state.

the average layperson does not know how to stealth cross-country packages and will just get his shit seized

>>41868613
FUCKEN 'ELL LAD

>>41868559
There's not many qt's to catch in my neck of the woods, and being new to my job means I haven't really gotten enough vacation hours to go to the beach. But I'll try and become a sick cunt anyway. I might still be lonely, but it'll be better than being fat and lonely.

>>41868569
I hope this is because you pin ed and not your 5th pin over 3 weeks, because if it's the latter you're dumb as hell and need to stop switching between sites asap and pick two to rotate between to get rid of your pip

>>41867892
>>41867914
Are you called nano on account of being a manlet?

>>41868722
You realize that's not a to-scale coffee cup right

>>41868642
he can try, i get my stuff from china into the eu without stealth, i dont think the lazy spains are that eager to find 20ml test.
>>41868648
just make use out of my 10bucks i dont want to see you skinny i want to see you big an ripped

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>>41868824
YOU WERE THE ANON THAT GAVE ME $10

You're a cool nigga. I'm gonna start pinning once this surgery shit is healed up and I can hit the gym again.

Thanks for believing in me anon, I'll make you proud ;-;

>>41868722
At least I'm not some dyel lanky cunt

>>41867892
>>41867914
lmao what are you, 5'4?

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>>41868869
dont worry i always lurk go get shredded

i did an inventory list today, love counting and playing around with my gear lel

>>41868580
Solid advice. I'll try to replicate one of my former source's stealths. Good idea, ty.

>>41869046
Close enough.

>>41869056
That's a neat collection you've got there.

>>41869060
Can't you bridge with a very long ester and get a new source there?
Spain is an easy place to get gear.

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>>41868541
Eggs, beef and other proteins for carbs usually rice or potatos. I know I need to incorporate way more veggies but I hate most of them and I don't have a huge appetite either so it's kinda annoying.

>>41868790
kek. I was looking at the counter.

>>41868986
Truth. I haven't been on /fraud/ in a while and was wondering about the new namefags.

Already doing better than manletgains.

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>>41866724
>>41869205
>I feel bloated
>I don't like eating vegetables

Sounds like ya need to poop, anon.

>>41869270
Hi I'm poor cunt I don't actually do steroids yet but please be my friend.

>>41869270
Well fuck my life then, is it that easy to tell I'm short?
And what would you estimate?

>>41869333
Are you saving up for a cycle? How much would you need?

>>41869333
I'm natty atm too, hence why I haven't been on /fraud/ inna while.

The good news is the test+nolva is cheap. Like <$120 for a four month cycle.

>>41869386
I'd guess around 5'6".
I'm sure someone could go full autismo and figure it out closer.

>>41869386
I've already got everything I need, but I knew I was gonna have septum surgery soon so I held off. I'm waiting until all my nose stuff is healed up before I start. I doubt test would have any effect on the healing process anyway, but I'm paranoid so I'd rather wait a week or so to be sure than end up fucking myself over.

>>41869416
Like I said I've already got everything I should need (barring something weird happens and I need something I haven't got), it's really just the fact that my dumbass scheduled surgery right when I got all of my stuff. Ah well.

Also I was actually on my way to calculate his height but I couldn't figure out exactly what kind of phone he had so I lost interest. Good to know my autism hasn't extended that far yet.

>>41869416
5'7" pretty close.
I have no clue how people are able to tell height so easily.

>>41869420
Better safe then sorry. Whats another couple of weeks in the grand scheme.

>>41869438
>I have no clue how people are able to tell height so easily.
Good guess, plus years of being on fit with manlet memes.

>>41869438
Because counters are mostly about the same height, that's the biggest clue. That and the size of everything around you gives it away.

Btw eat more. Don't dirty bulk, but you should be a lot bigger if you're that short.

>>41869436
funny enough i had a septum surgerie too in march, its anoying like hell.
was on a cruse and took mk677 after surgerie, docs said they never seen such a fast recovery haha

far easier to breath now but still not as good as i hoped it would be :/

Anyone has any experience with BPC 157?

>>41869626
The only reason I look as tiny here is wanting to be cut enough for the beach.

Bulking as we speak.

Funny how we consider this small while normie's consider this big to some degree.

>>41869682
Normies don't have enough body dismorfia to inject olive oil in their butt

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>>41869682
All I can say is thank God for normies low standards.

>>41868569
I only pin quads.

Twice a week.

Hit a nerve yesterday.

>>41867892
We have the same completely fucked ab insertions. Zipper life sucks.

>>41869056
>Ampules
Arent you scared of glass shards?

>>41869056

What do you have there?

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>>41869936
no, i actually like amps more they are just neater. you can get a filter if you dont want to risk it
>>41870003
pic related
hope you can read it taking pics from my shitty screen.never works

>>41870126
>taking pictures of his computer screen
wtf

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I still for the life of me can't figure out how much caber I'm supposed to be taking on high tren.

>>41869333
>Sounds like ya need to poop, anon
I take enough psyllium to get ~90% of my daily allowance of fiber from that plus whatever I get in my diet. It may actually be too much.

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me on the left

>>41870215
why do 3rd worlders love synthol so much

>>41870215
Why do people do this? Like it doesn't impress normies it just freaks them out and it doesn't impress bodybuilders because you're a synthol freak.

>>41870136
why easy when hard is funnier
i brows 4chan on my phone

>>41870215
God that's embarrassing. I wonder if he thinks people think those are 1) actually muscle and 2) attractive. M'lumpy muscles.

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>>41870235
stupid phoneposter

>>41866724
Stomach vacuums

>>41868683
I've posted questions bout pip here before. When I pin my ass cheek, I get a lump in it for like 5 days. Shit makes sitting at work uncomfortable. I pinned quad first time couple days ago and felt fine today. minimal problem.

That's why Im asking bout sticking to quad

>>41869900
please tell me, how bad was it hitting the nerve?

>>41870126

gee anon, what are you going to do with all that gear

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K guys I got some Methyldrol, Novedex, Liver support, DIM, DHEA, and some NAC.

Am I missing anything for my f2nd prohormone cycle?

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So this is what happens when I bulk and don't count macros

>ate 4500-5000cals today
>feeling like eating some chunky peanut butter

What the actual fuck is going on here

>>41870902
show sodium

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>>41870905
Fuck

This on cycle hunger is getting out of control

>>41870917
lol

you need to stop stuffing your face with mcdonalds dude

>>41870964
Nah dude, that was all from the chow hall.

I ended up eating 60oz of cottage cheese mixed with cereal for today for example.
Just a fuck ton of eggs, potatoes, rice, chicken, veggies, a breakfast burrito, a bowl of cereal, etc

I have been lifting twice a day so that might have something to do with it...I just don't like how tempting it is to eat some peanut butter right now

>>41870817
>Am I missing anything for my f2nd prohormone cycle?
>prohomone
balls

>>41871010
those things don't make you get to f o u r t e e n grams of sodium

>>41871010
Do the Stan Efferding/Larry Wheels/Flex Wheeler diet

8-12oz of lean beef (top sirloin or flank steak) with 80-120g of carbs (rice or potatoes are best)

Start at 4-6 meals. Add more meals or increase amount of food per meal. Keep workouts as intense as possible.

Become a freakbeast.

>>41871107
Should I just spend the next two days not eating a single thing? Kind of like a fast? Because I'm retaining water like fuck right now.

>>41871127
I'll look into that in the future.
It's shitty enough where I have all this free fucking food to go to after a hard lifting session. I just want to eat everything I see.

Like today, I ate 5000cals, and just now I decided to eat 4 big spoonfuls of peanut butter because I felt hungry.

My appetite is actually scaring me right now and I don't know what I should do

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>>41871185
>Because I'm retaining water like fuck right now.
>14g of sodium

You should probably grab an OTC diuretic so your body doesn't fucking sky rocket and your ankles don't swell up like some obese bingo hall player.

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>>41871278
>body
BP*

>>41871278
She has gross arms

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>>41871023
sorry I don't have connections to get the real shit mang. I do with what I got and what I can. Why you gotta bust my balls about this?

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>>41871127

Man, that diet sounds awesome. I remember him talking about that during one of his rants.

I did something kind of close during my last semester of college (meat, rice, veggies, and some other extras for nutrition), and I was able to cut while having better performance than ever in the gym.

I decided to figure out the micros and costs for all that stuff (pic related). It's pretty impressive how well you can cover stuff with just steak, broccoli, and rice.

Too bad steak is so goddamned expensive.

>>41871657
Woops, forgot to change the steak units/day to 1.5... Weekly cost is actually $79.22.

>thought I had cuck liver genetics because every time I use orals my liver instantly goes to shit and I pee dark yellow/poop grey
>turns out it was just hepatitis c
haha

>>41871721
hahaha

>>41866608
>Anons, I'm fucked. Halp.
>
>I'm 2 weeks in on my trest+drol cycle and finally starting to see some >proper gains, but today I got the final word from my new employer - I'll be >moving to another country in a week.
>
>Now how do i go about this? Can't risk taking ronrons to an airplane, do I >start PCT now for a week and call it a cycle OR i go inject double for >another week, go to the new country and order new ronrons (which will take >3-4 weeks) and then continue cycle as if nothing happened?


What country?

Why do i get more attention fat 20+% bf with a bit of muscles than i did a skeleton with a good face

>>41871995
You no longer look WEAK and STARVED imagine when you become SWOLE and LEAN

>>41871657
I found a place that sells top sirloin at $3/lb if you buy in bulk (basically you're buying the entire top sirloin usually like10-12lbs).

Also has flank steak at $5/b, which is so worth it.

How the hell did I get a sore on my tongue on pmsf. Maybe too much coffee? Its acidic I guess. Atleast my body creating and then healing the sore will burn caliries

>>41872144
So even 4lbs a day, which is almost absurd but I've heard of people doing more, is only$12

I'd say that's worth it since some people spend that much on all sorts of junk and come out with less.

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>>41872144

WHERE

>>41872166
>How the hell did I get a sore on my tongue
have you ruled out the possibility one of those voluptuous feminine peepees weren't clean?

>>41872166
Dude why don't you just permabulk at this point. What do you have to lose? Cause all this yoyo shit is definitely ruining at least your gains

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I'm not running hcg or anti estrogens right now

Only organ defender, test and some supplements

>>41872198
Sysco cash and carry Pocomoke, MD

>>41872166
I had something similar a couple months ago, caused by too much stress, too much coffee, and too little sleep. Sucked too, because it caused me to fail my college finals.

>>41872228
>Sucked too, because it caused me to fail my college finals.
right

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Saw GF this morning and had romantic conversation
She wants to give things another go ayyy

After that drove 6 hours to my new home state
KAHUNA IS BACK

I know long distance is a meme but one can dream it'll work out.

7 WEEKS NATTY AND LOOKING MEDIOCRE AF

>>41872224

Bummer. I wonder if I can find something like that near me...

>>41872237
By the end of the week, my tongue was swelling up and itching so much I couldn't sleep, and I had spent the last 4 days completely awake.

>>41868683
holy crap. i-is that what you guys mean by saying pip goes away after you pin the same sites.

oops.

>>41872166
Haven't you been fucking suicide cutting for almost a year now what the fuck

>>41872273
Where's home for you now?

>>41872224
Cash and carry is the shit, so good for buying in bulk.

>>41872273
i want to meanpost cuz i always have but im kind of impressed at this point tb h

>>41872273
>>41872305
I will for you.

Kahuna leave that girl alone you've done enough.

>>41872296
Buffalo, NY
Never been this far north it seems ok

>>41872305
I'm giving you permission for one meanpost

Staying clean this time for real boys I feel it. And also gonna not be promiscuous. I'm on some bipolar meds so maybe that'll help.

>>41872200
I havent sucked dick raw in like 3-4+ months though
Should get a std test though

>>41872205
Yeah im a lil fella now
My goal now is shreds
Its easy enough to gain

>>41872228
I did just have finals
Hmmm

>>41872292
This is week 9, before that I bulked out of surgery fat but before surgery I was doin pmsf too

Really I just drank way too much for like 6 months

Eating 48oz of chicken breast and 2oz of pecans/almonds a day, with 1-2 servings cottage cheese preworkout.

Also running 650mg tren.

Does running tren that high really boost your tdee? Do you think it's making my cut quicker or am I an idiot?

I'm going to keep going anyway for scientific reasons, just wanted some outside opinions.

>>41872323
You're just jealous that all signs point toward my immortality.

I was really going to go no contact for her own benefit but she's so cute I can't imagine being with anyone else. I am in love.

>>41872358
All signs point to you being an irresponsible idiot.

But since this girl is supporting you in the first place, she must be too. So carry on.

>>41872377
Sad emoji

>>41872342
>Staying clean this time for real boys I feel it. And also gonna not be promiscuous.
and to do that you're moving away from the only remaining healthy vice in your life

you can't just cold turkey like that unless you're filling that void with something else bb

>>41872284
I'm actually really curious what you thought it meant

>>41872402
Been away from this shithole a while, what happened did you cheat and she found out or something?

>>41872346
Bullshit i remember still in 2016 you were fat and saying this same shit

>>41872342
I've heard that upstate NY is nice, hope you enjoy it. Oh and take your meds.

>>41872430
>what happened did you cheat and she found out or something?
pretty sure he got high and had an orgy iwth 6 other ppl but that might've been chem

>>41872415
I think a fresh start will be beneficial.
Going to immerse myself in AA/NA.
But yes being away from her is a bummer.

>>41872430
>>41872457
I relapsed and had a had a threesome with two girls I'd met in a detox. I got sepsis the next day and she went through my phone while I was out in the hospital. It sounds much more exciting than it was.

>>41872443
So far it's pretty nice. The air feels good and the weather now is amazing. Not sure how long I plan on staying desu time will tell.

>>41872430
I got decent
But I did do a long cut previously

>>41871530
Because he's a dyel cuck who gets shit on everytime he posts. Fuck natties even look better than him, he obsesses over his ex who fucks black dudes in redlobster parking lots

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>>41871529
Shush, she's a QT.

>>41872224
>Pocomoke
Eastern shore shoo, shoo goblin. MoCo or no-go. Jk I'll probably get beheaded by MS or something eventually.

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>>41871529
you wouldn't lick that pit?

what about these

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>>41872593
Candace was legit my OG waifu. Too bad she's got kids and shit now. But she's still cute.

>>41872519
>Not sure how long I plan on staying desu time will tell.
you're just going to end up fucking a side ho or crawl back to gf like you should've from day 1

i dont get it. get well soon tho ily xx

>>41872627
is she famous for any particular reason or just some IG atn whore you stalk because you're a creep??

>>41872627
that baby seems kinda ugly

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>>41872708
>famous for any particular reason
Not really, she did some modeling and was a host on the old G4 network.

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>>41872593
Those are some nice pits

>>41872726
Yeah.
I think she should give that one away and let me put a better looking one in her.

>>41872741
well you have good taste i guess

what's her husband look like?

>>41872627
>waifu
>3D
umm...?

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Tren+dnp+eph+thermos+yohimbine
How long do you think I can manage this before it becomes unhealthy?

>>41872708
Even though my fraud friends don't believe in me you're still the only people that hold me to any kind of societal standard

Without you meanposters no one would be there to tell me not to do whatever I want

>>41872766
just manage your bp, stop the tren and just keep cruising test if it gets out of your control

and i'd run antihistimines preemptively on dnp

>>41872793
>Without you meanposters no one would be there to tell me not to do whatever I want
we're a necessary evil

now get healthy so i dont feel bad trashing ur pics please

>>41872823
My BP is normally 106/68, rhr 61 so I'm not too worried about BP.

What should I dose benadryl at? Just 1 a day?

>>41872871
>My BP is normally 106/68, rhr 61 so I'm not too worried about BP.
tren and yoh can easily fuck anyone's bp so don't get too comfortable is all

>What should I dose benadryl at? Just 1 a day?
depends on how much dnp you plan on running family

thats probably adequate though. just lower it if you feel sleepy, increase it the moment you notice dnp sides

>check BP at pharmacy
>151/81

Fug, I hope this sorts out soon.

>>41872912
Had coffee or stimulants recently?

Fwiw, there's plenty of oldschool powerlifters still around and they were probably 170/110 on a good day that fat and on that much test/dbol

>>41872909
True true, I'm just running 200-300 for about 20 days, would do more but it's so damn hot out. Then take 10 days off and run it again for 3 weeks, depending how long it takes to drop 20lbs (-1k deficit currently)

>>41872952
I've been having tea with breakfast lately but it shouldn't be pushing me that high, I normally sit at 120/70.

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>>41872912
you're just on test U now? what was wrong with the deca/eq cruise
niacin, coq10, baby aspirin, and cardio mr

or bleed yourself into a dirty bathtub jerry style just for the fuck of it

CMON

>>41872964
it shouldn't take that long to drop 20lbs tb h
if you're doing PSMF and liss it will melt

>>41872912
Bruh
On just test?
Hop on bp supps and up the cardio, seriously

>>41873046
I was getting issues with the EQ and decided to just save the deca for blasting, also I'm on Q10 already.

>>41873052
I do HIIT on weekday mornings, no idea why it's still high after donating blood.

>>41873046
Yeah doing a modified psmf. Did FL psmf before Friday a month and it was miserable. Still doing really low carb, doing roughly 5-6 hours of cardio a week on top of lifting 5 days

>>41873106
Fuck phone posting.
>did full psmf before for a month*

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>>41872356
Someone comment on this

>>41872356
>>41873178
>Does running tren that high really boost your tdee?
no, not really. gaining muscle increases your TDEE

that said, tren does mildly inhibit lipogenesis but will not directly aid in burning fat stores

tl;dr drop or drastically lower the tren (think ~200mg) or stop cutting because you're wasting gear

>>41873249
>>41873178
>that said, tren does mildly inhibit lipogenesis but will not directly aid in burning fat stores

i should also mention this is why high carb low fat diets are recommended with tren in order to utilize this, if it wasn't obvious

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>blast for 4 months
>skin is perfect if a little oily
>cruise for 2 months
>back and chest and shoulders are like a goddamn pizza
>mfw
Doctor is a bro tho and got me on accutane, a 3 month supply in Canada is goddamn $8 after insurance.

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>>41873285
that's pretty normal
sudden fluxuations in hormones can and will cause acne, it'll clear up

that's part of the reason PCT is so notoriously miserable, but even adding/removing a compound from your stack can be really noticable particularly with orals and short esters

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>>41872593
I hope I have some nice dreams about pits tonight

>>41873346
Does any one else when on gear chat about impregnating a girl to the girl so much that she ends up wanting it then after you rub one out youre like "oh fuck"

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>>41873346
bliss

>>41873382
w-what?

>>41873382
yeah totally i talk about getting my girl pregnant all the time

>>41873394
chatting up girls and talk about doing it raw and cumming inside and haha you might get pregnant so much they end up wanting it and im like >Thot-san, do you want me to get you pregnant?

And theyre like yes, then I fap, and Im like oh fuck, I hope I can control myself in person.

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>>41873429
e-excuse me?

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>>41873382
I try my best to get azusa prego
No regrets so far

>>41873457
Theyd probably want me to raise the baby with them so Ill use protection. If they were married itd be easier because thered be no expectation and she can raise it with her husband.

Tfw this is just me on Test (and some LGD). Im not even on Tren atm, tren gives me diamond dick and multiplies the degeneracy.

>>41873429
If a girl is horny enough and you're giving it to her good she will almost always start begging for you to cum inside her, like fucking INSISTING. You must resist this urge because this is how like fucking every unwanted pregnancy or at least abortion or morning after pill story begins. Both your brains turn off in the heat of the moment.

>>41873549
tfw your girl has an iud so you cum inside multiple times a day

>>41873549
This is just chatting though after planning to have sex. Not even fucking yet and she wants me to knock her up. Why does this always happen to me.

>>41873460
>pic
jfc jerry

i'm so torn between being disgusted and emulating you

women are the fucking worst either way that's for sure

i only have a month till i go on a week long trip. what can i take along with a cruise dose for 4 weeks that will be worth it?

>gf invites me to go shopping for a vacuum
>we hold hands in the shop
>100% hard
>After we're done she latches onto my arm and says "Can you help me set it up at home?"
>I agree
>Set up the vacuum, its one of those on the wall dyson things
>We lay down in bed and cuddle
>Admittably I cried a little
>She says "I love you."
>I reciprocate
>Flip her over and get on top of her and start making out

Feels good. Fuck you /fraud/

>>41874338
Gay

>>41874338
why havent you fucked her yet you've had 4 opportunities and missed every single one wtf

>>41874356
I don't need to scare her off thinking I'm only here for sex numb

Plus she's off contraception and no condoms

>>41874423
>I don't need to scare her off thinking I'm only here for sex numb
pretty sure you've already made it clear

>Plus she's off contraception and no condoms
this is probably the shittiest excuse you've written thus far but the thought of you raising a child to become a man is equally laughable

>>41874462
Why you so mean to me?

>>41866667
Rei fags BTFO

>>41874338
>gf

did you get back with your gf you we're crying about the past few weeks you pansy ass beta?

>>41874485
She's still exgf. But I got my tongue down her throat so that's a plus

>>41874508
so are you back with her or is this a new girl?

please say new girl

>>41874522
What do you mean?

I made out with exgf and I'm hoping to get back with.

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>>41874545
god you're such a fuckin jabroni.

but in all seriousness hope it works out for you but i dunno if it will. just my 2 shekels

>>41874557
I'm just glad I ignored /fraud/'s advice.

>>41874472
You're a shit trip. You deserve it, you fairy

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>>41874472
i dont get to meanpost @ kahuna anymore so i let all my pent up anger out on you instead

but seriously the thought of little cucksaders running around is unbearable i really do hope you mature before you inevitably get some poor girl prego with your betaspawn

good ralox dosage to get rid of old gyno?
and would i need an ai with it?

>>41874579
I'm a great trip.

Might be able to return to gym next week. Shoulder is clicking and popping less and less and less each day.

I'm fucking pumped. The cut has gone well. Lost 7 lbs on a moderate calorie deficient.

>>41874338
You deserve everything that happens to you

>>41874995
Thanks anon

>>41867892
>>41867914

>roiding for this

Holy shit kill yourself please.

>>41875254
r u d e
u
d
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>>41872545
I don't even know what a redlobster is. You Americans are fucking weird.

I started TRT on my own a month ago and this shit is amazing, I am able to function on 4 hours of sleep when I needed 8-10 before just to be able to get up, I feel happy, genuinely happy for no reason and I am even seeing progress in the gym.
the only downside is my appetite which is huge now

>>41867505
>>41867560
Roids are legal for personal use here. In the sense that the worst that can happen is them confiscating them off you.

Say I'm taking test&eq and have a high AF bp is having high BP a good thing and a desired effect (as in will it make me better at cardio and lifting etc) or should I take action to lower it?

>>41872342
>staying off meth
>in Buffalo, NY

best of luck, papi. I used to live in Niagara Falls, ON and it was a fucking hole and I know the other side of the border is the same. Be good to her this time, sempai

If this counts as "source talk" feel free to shoo me out or ignore me. I take it to mean no asking for specific sources.
My question is when/how did you all get started on the roids?

>>41875773
No it is not a good thing. Why? Clots and stroke.

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So fellas, i think i got off cycle with pct or maybe not. I dunno let me know what you think
>start first cycle
>friend gave me leftover vials from his previous cycle out of excitement that im finally juicing
>also ordered some of my own
>use his test E first, have the full experience i expected.
>switch to mine and balls are slowly back to "semi" normal without doing my hcg shots for a week
>lift progression slowed down alot, but not stalled
>no longer so horny that i can get hard off of gay porn (not being funny but really the higher my sex drive the more willing i am to fuck dudes)
I switched on week 5 going on 6.

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I finally get to see the broad I just started dating tonight. Pretty stoked, desu. She's been on the rag and I just upped my test dose so I may actually blow her back out tonight. Also, I thought my e2 was high because I'm being a romantic emotional little bitch with her, but everything else seems in check - so maybe I caught whatever Crusader has and more faggotry is inbound.

>>41875852
The ride never ends.

>>41875840
With PCT? Well, you didn't PCT so that's out - but it sounds like your gear is underdosed / bunk. Week 5 is only when you should've started to see results from a typical test e cycle anyway. Maybe order some new gear and give it another go?

>>41875967
Yeah i meant without. And that's how it seems. Back to the old general goods store

>>41874338
HE DIDD IT, HE FUCKED HIS EX GF!!!

That;s a fucking achievement to be proud of. Fuck curing cancer, fucking curing aids, fuck saving world from hunger. This guy fucked his ex girlfriend. That's what we call a mind boggling change

I am glad you did it man, it was really something i wouldn't wan to mis in a fucking 10000 yeaars.

KEEP BEING YOU AND NEVER STOP BELIEVING!!

Seriously the amount of betaness over here is astounding

look i bnc for years but fucking natties look better than me only by looking at a dumbell

i have cried in front of a girl, because i wanted her back, so she felt sorry for me and borrowed her pussy.

How can you look at yourself in the mirror while fucking knowing you are not even mediocre

GET A GRIP!!!

>>41876380
B-but I didn't fuck her...not yet. Just stuck my tongue down her throat and groped her.

I'm sorry masT don't hate me.

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>>41876466
you couldn't just let him have it, could you?

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>>41876433
>get a grip

A Swedish grip?

>>41876480
I'm not going to start lying until I get doxxed.

>>41876466
You didn't even fuck her? What is wrong with you

report back when you stuck your penis in her vagina

>>41876488
I imagine myself you cropping out the bbc and then looking at your own dick and then again at the bbc. The pain and the suffer you have been going through in order to made this picture. you have my respect sir.

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>>41876543
you're a big lovable retard
What can I say

>no homo

>>41876543
I want to fuck her but 1. Don't want her to feel I'm using her for sex 2. She's not on contraceptive and we don't have condoms. Just slobber on her face a lot is good enough for me.

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>>41876576
> 1. Don't want her to feel I'm using her for sex
I think the fucking ocean of beta tears you've shed in front of her handles that
> 2. She's not on contraceptive and we don't have condoms.
what is a gas station, drug store, convenience store, clinic, etc. jesus christ

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>>41876553
>retard
hey man i have to compensate with my other gifts.

>>41876576
>Don't want her to feel I'm using her for sex
>Don't want her to feel I'm using her for sex
>Don't want her to feel I'm using her for sex
LMAO!!!!!!!!

What other purpose have woman then? Do you like to paint her nails and go shopping? Hear her stories about how she liked the bbc and not your tiny penis?

>She's not on contraceptive
because she don't want a baby from you. Let me tell you what's going to happen; you will end up as a housewife taking care of her and her BLACK BABY

BUT maybe, maybe when she's a good mood. You can watch her taking the bbc behind glas. 3d movie IRL, no glassed needed

>>41876576
>Don't want her to feel I'm using her for sex
She's never going to feel that lmao
Its ok I never slept with my ex either. Youre on youre way to evolving into the alpha male.
Now buy a daki

>>41876626
>>41876588
Stop cyberbullying me.

>>41876630
jerry I'm having a bad morning pls post dakis

oh my God this blast got me so fucking fat, my face is a disgusting mess. looking at my face in the mirror makes me want to puke.

... but I'm still unhappy with my muscle mass so I don't really want to cut

FUCK

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>>41876679
BETAS go and CRY on women
ALPHAS make sure to eat a NUTRITIOUS BREAKFAST with their dakis

>>41876733
if youre fat you should cut
you can bulk up later

>>41876900

cute yui

>>41870416
using it got a competition coming up. except test p
still waiting for someone in the gym to ask me about gear and then i try to flip it. test p is stupid as is tren a and every other short ester
no plans for mtren / dbol though

>>41876900
lmao thanks bby

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Hi anons I posted here a lil while ago basically I got diagnosed with low test but not low enough to warrant prescription trt

I did my homework, lab and supplier all good and well regarded, and my test and ai arrived this morning. I got shitloads since I'm planning on basically "cruising" for my life; I got 4 300mg vials so that's 80 weeks' worth.

I wanna know if it would be better to inject twice a week (Sun PM and Thu AM) 75mg each time, since apparently the effects start to decline around 4 days after injection. My chances of sides are pretty low anyway (I have an AI but I dont expect to use it) but I'm thinking such low doses more frequently would stabilise my levels more and further reduce any risk of gyno or estrogenic effects.

Basically I'm self medicating TRT for life anx wanna know if I should split my 150mg/week dose into two injections each week.

>>41877026

for TRT once a week is fine. You shouldn't need an AI at such a low dose.

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Is it true that pinning anywhere besides quads and glutes wastes gear in the sense you don't absorb it as well or someshit?

>>41877026

I started self medicating a couple months ago now.

Definitely 2x per week. I started to feel low test again at about day 5 and the estro spikes of 1x per week suck.

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>>41877081
I've never heard that. Glutes and quads are just easy, and relatively safe to pin for inexperienced users without hitting nerves or big veins.

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>>41877081
Glutes are the least we'll absorbed according to some Washington department of health shit I read but guys have pinned glutes for decades and still got bug so I doubt it's anything negligible.

VGs are great though, you can pin like 5ml and parely get any discomfort. Even if you do it's not something you notice every day like pip in your quads. I only pin quads/vg currently though.

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NEET/homegym/roid God-race here

I have all the time in the world for lifting sleeping and eating. And roids. Can I train 2-4 times a day if I literally just eat lift nap

>>41877026
>>41877075
do it 2x a week, the drop in 150mg e7d is much more "feelable" then 500 e7d

>>41877170
>>41877093
Cheers wish me luck bois :) Finally gonna be on an even playing field

>>41877081
they are big muscles with great blood flow that allows fast absorption, if you want it to diffuse equally in all the body that's your place

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>>41877167
Hello rhabdo.

>A local autistic bodybuilder was found nude and dead in his home gym today. The police report says he died from overexertion and LVH. Shortly before his death his neighbors heard screams of "ain't nuthin but a peanut" and "lift away the feels" coming from his garage. His will states all his belongings will go to his Daki, a stuffed Japanese pillow resembling an adolescent Japanese girl, who was also present in his garage at the time of his death.

>>41877026
>>41877075
fluctuation of hormones is a lot more than just estrogen.

>>41876626
>>41876543
>>41876433
Mast just wrecking you fucks. He'd be my hero if he wasn't a manlet.

Mast are you ever going to weigh over 210?

>>41877313
Is that a vote for once a week or twice a week?

>>41877310
Women like that should be jailed

Immoral slut

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>>41877413
no u

>>41877413
your mother probably did those poses in her younger years, pity there were no phones at the time

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>>41877433
>pity there were no phones at the time

>>41875710

How much are you taking?

>>41877375
>Mast are you ever going to weigh over 210?
are you fooling me boy

>>41877433
ignorance is bliss

maybe your mother shit on you hear after father cummed on your face when you were born. That's probably the reason you so ugly now

WE WIL NEVER KNOW. so many secrets, so many questions. Sm.h

>>41877398
twice. more frequent pinning = less fluctuation

So they fucking fired the whole IT department and all the work from the functional/business analysts etc is coming on our plate.

I am a fucking junior but I am doing work from a fucking medior. Managing projects, coordinating etc. FOR JUNIOR MONEY

I am taking it raw from behind from the Indian cock. Just how i like it

>>41877656
>medior
wtf

>>41877663
what you talking about

That;s how they operate. They will let you do more work for less money. Until you dead and then they still demand money because you take place under the ground.

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Should I buy some /legit kigs/ and run it low dose or would that not be worth it? I'd probably do 3iu ED.

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>>41877656
so alpha

i just want to have okay muscle size and bbc muscle definition

how to do dis

>>41877835
stfu tripfag

Good morning fraud : )

>>41877715
what the fuck is a medior

>>41877966
Morning dude - hope it works out between you and your girl long distance. Please don't cheat on her again and treat her right and with the respect that actually reflects how much you love her.

I generally have no ill will whatsoever toward natties, but I get so tired of seeing these threads where natty lifters ask how to "boost" their Test "naturally." They want the benefits/effects of roids while still being able to hold onto that precious moral superiority of being "natty," and that annoys me. I just love how they look down on us, and, at the same time, want to be us. kek

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>>41877310
kek

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>>41877835
Kinda gettin bored here lil guy so I did some searching on the archive since you bluffed giving me real stats... lol, topped out at 220lbs, that means you were one of the guys who couldn't even hit 200lbs natty...

remember you are unable to quit steroids even if you wanted because the humiliation you will suffer from having the people you see every day watch you deflate like a retarded balloon and the crippling depression you will have from a completely fucked endocrine system and scorched earth nut sack that won't be able to produce levels of test even half of a normal mans for at least a decade will surely lead to suicide

you, like all your pictures are just illusions, of course you're on an internet forum, you are retarded(like me) unlike me it takes pictures that make you look huge

Have fun spending money on something you do to impress others, mostly online because let's be honest everyone irl who sees you knows you got a napoleon complex and can't live without drugs

sorry I have to embarrass you on the only real place where you can get any respect from other autists like us. I hope you find what you are looking for and don't realize to late that you fucked up your natural life to be an imitation bodybuilder.

>>41877999
I thought it was known by you pizza lovers. It's between a junior and medior

>>41877835
It doesn;t suit your argument when you substantiate it with a fucking Japanse cartoon. But since this will be probably the closest you ever come to something we call a woman, I am able to understand.

try again, next please

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>>41878061
I love the ones where they go on about which prohormones to take because needles are scary and steroids are unhealthy, when in reality prohormones have the potential to be far, far more damaging than a simple test cycle - all while getting less results.

>>41877656
"since the workload and responsibility have increased tremendesly we should discuss the fair compensation for such an drastic change" tell them you want 50%more money and then agree on 25-30%

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>>41875756
>Canary bro's still alive.
Get in the discord faggot.

>>41878174

I'm in one of those threads right now, and I asked the guy, "do you really think that any of those supps are worth it if they take you from something like 500 ng/dL to 600 ng/DL? Do you think that will lead to any noticeable improvement in the gym?" and he said "yeah, I think it's worth it for even a tiny increase." Then he asked me if I'd take a supplement if I were 5'11.5" and it could put me at 6' with no negative effects. More of this /fit/ manlet obsession bullshit. I said "honestly, I don't think it's worth it. Might make me feel slightly better to see 6' on paper, but no one around me would notice in the slightest." I guess I just don't get their mindset... I suggested he try TRT to make things legal and put him at the high end of the normal range with virtually no negative side effects, and now the thread is derailing into a bunch of shitposting about how everyone on TRT is sterile and relying on "artificial hormones" for life is stupid, etc.

>>41878192
colleague that is working there for 7 years wasn't even capable of doing it.

They are playing dirty tricks. They will tell you sure sure you will get a raise and then some fat murican is saying get more indians that will take over your job if you don't want to do it for that money. That's the problem with these big ass companies;the big shots are blabbering some stuff that needs to be done, because muhh statics but the're fucking clueless what is happening on operational level

imagine you are that fucking boss. I only see him 1/2 times a year talking with some managers and then he disappears into the dark.

>>41878252
>those fake-ass tits

Fucking yuck.

basic test cycle is great way to keep people from never doing steroids again

shutting yourself just to spit into a pond... no thanks

>>41878292
yeah but is your colleague the ALPHA in the company or are you the one? go get it big boy.

do it if they say "yeah yeah" let them give it to you in writing. if nothing happens you can sue them, its an us company but your countrys law still apply there.
other option is just before you end a bigger project to being it up again more likely to get a raise then asking after.

in any case look for other jobs/oportunities and compare your salary with other companies in your position.

google a bit how to get a raise

>>41878394

I decided to go fairly big on my first cycle. Did the necessary research, got plenty of bloods, and blasted on 500+mg/wk Tren A and Test P. Had AI and Caber on hand, and felt I could handle it. Research paid off, bloods looked great, no sides were had, and gains were made. No regrets whatsoever.

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>>41878289
5'11.5 - 6' is fucking comical. I'm 6'4 and I promise literally nobody would even notice, except foryour ratfucked liver values. Also, find me a prohormone that will make you grow .5" post puberty and we can probably market it as an alternative to HGH

>>41878394
what are you even trying to say

>>41878438

The height obsession on /fit/ is mind-boggling to me. Before I came here, I had no idea there were people who took height so seriously. I'm 5'11" myself, and I have no issues with that whatsoever. Honestly, I find most of this board to be rather cancerous. Manlets/jawlets/chinlets/lanklets, blah blah blah. It's nothing but insecurity and judgment, and I don't understand that shit, nor do I need it in my life lol.

>>41878303
Different strokes.
>>41878477
It doesn't really matter in real life unless you're 6'4"+ or under 5'6".

And even then it's just the occasional tall/short guy joke.

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>>41878511
Forgot to post fake tits

>>41878511

Agreed. I think people here just need something to nitpick, and it's even better when it's something that a person can't change. So, height fits the bill perfectly.

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I roid to be loved

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>>41878477
>>41878511
I thought for the longest time that all the -lets were people memeing, but with all the jelqing / height exercises / mewing threads its depressingly real. And I say this as an insecure roiding faggot.

>>41878533
same bby, same. sad thing is the girl I'm dating now has known me for 5 years and wasn't terribly interested pre-gas

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>>41878566
>>41878533

I roid in the faint hope I'll go Super Saiyan someday and shoot ki blasts.

It'll happen.

>>41878566

I think it started out as memeing, but insecurity has led people to start thinking, "oh gee, people must really care about this stuff. I need to change this about myself as soon as possible!" I definitely agree -- it's depressing to think that people truly believe it...

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>>41878566
shit forgot trip

also I'm in week 11 of babby's first test cycle and I'm breaking out again just like I did at the beginning. Normal? I thought I was past this horseshit

>>41878630

This is week 7 of Tren/Test for me, and I'm finally starting to notice some acne across my shoulders. E2 is right in range for me, so I'm doing my best to manage it with twice-a-day showers using Neutrogena on a loofah. Lol

>>41878698
Tren was the only thing to give me serious acne problems. Most everything else was fine if you kept you levels steady.

>>41878736

It's honestly not all that bad. Just some red spots across my shoulders. I think the acne scrub is starting to pay off, as it's less noticeable now. I'm sure it's more noticeable to me than it is to anyone else, since that's the way most of this stuff usually is... Definitely not something that's going to put a damper on my intense love affair with Tren!

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>>41878801
How much tren / test are you running? I think I want to run that for my winter pre-vacay cycle

>>41878566
>mewing
jawlet is probably the most real thing out of the bunch because it directly affects facial anesthetics, which is the number one thing people notice when they meet other people.

not that mewing works tho

1-4 anadrol 50
1-5 test 800mg
Hcg first week or two and clomid 4 weeks for pct?

>>41878864
kys

>>41878844

560mg/wk Tren A and 420mg/wk Test P. It's a blend, so I draw once and pin 0.8mL. 0.5mg Adex EOD has my E2 in range and PRL is fine so I don't need any Caber.

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>>41878864
lmao hold on, am I reading this right? You want to do HCG for the first two weeks and stop while doing a 5 week cycle? where did you get this fuckery?

>>41878882
Since it's ace and prop are you pinning every day if that's the case?

>>41878947

Yup, I rotate through delts, upper and lower quads, and VGs. I pin with a 30G 1" needle, so ED pinning doesn't get old for me.

How crazy is it to consider bulking and then cutting on the same long cycle? Something along the lines of 24 weeks of Tren -- bulking for the first 18, then cutting for the last 6. Madness?

>>41879323
mostly a waste of gear.

>>41879323
Do what you want to do bb