/fraud/

Mods fucked us.

Wonder if I should pin in front of redhead girl or ask her to do it.

I'm reposting this

>>41794663 →
Yeah but she's very timid and shy. She once got fucking furious with me because we hadn't seen each other for 2 weeks and I was extremely aggressive with her in bed and she didn't like that. If I'm too forward, that will kill her mood.

I'm happy with what I managed to accomplish.

>>41794863 →
I sit on the steps in the pool. She goes on a lower step, puts her head underwater and blows me and I tell her when she's allowed to come up for air by either forcing her down when she tries to come up or lifting her.

>>41795074 →
>is a model
>doesn't have infinite number of her own problems
She has mummy issues and bulimia.

>>41796950 →
I am a person and I have needs.

>>41797002 →
This is the first week we've seen each other, we've only seen each other 3 times and yesterday was the only proper dateish thing we've done so far.

>>41797024 →
Just because I'm religious doesn't mean I'm not human.

>>41797219 →
When I first started tripping literally every single thread would turn into a religious shitstorm so I avoid it as much as possible.

Arnolds original Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding or the updated version?

>>41799183
why would you repost this

this is an awful post

>>41799230
So that anons can have their questions answered.

Im so sick of pmsf
Shoot

>>41799242
Teach me your rape tips
Thats what people want

>>41799275
puh-lease tell me you're not still on the same psmf we talked about like half a year ago (haven't lurked in ages). you'd be literally gone from existence by now

>>41799329
no he is, that's jerry

he "psmf"s all year round but he's an alcoholic so he completely fucks it up by getting shitfaced all the time

>>41799349
why did I even ask kek

>>41799183
kys tripfag

do any of you run finasteride along with tren/mast?

does it help with or rather completely eliminate DHT sides (alopecia and prostate in particular)?

any toxic effects if I ran it for my whole cycle?

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>>41799349
can't really blame him, alcohol feels great when your life is shit
just makes it easier to exist

is this crusader guy the biggest beta fraud has ever had

>>41799386
no. but absolutely not for lack of trying.

>>41799275
Find a girl who's fucking insane.

>>41799386
Yes.

>>41799386
>the biggest beta fraud has ever had
B I M B O
I
M
B
O

is 600 test 800 bold ace 25 dbol gonna be not too bad side effect wise if i have ai on hand
trynna avoid
-feeling insane
-bad digestion/appetite
-libido issues

>>41799468
Sounds good

>>41799329
I did it before my surgery then drank for 1/2 a year then bulked
Have lots to lose

Also what>>41799349
Said lol

>>41799400
Do they usually hang out near playgrounds?

>>41799468
>bold ace
Why

That should be a comfy cycle if you keep the oestrogen under control

>>41799619
They usually hang out at parties. Y'know with people and other females jerry.

>>41799619
>i could get cyp instead. i just want it to kick in fast but maybe pinning all that oil ED will get gay as fuck quick

>>41799670
Cyps got pip
You do you

>>41799645
I dont think thats true
Theyre definitely around playgrounds

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God damn these Chinamen have some fast ass shipping. 1 day after acceptance and it's already at my local office. Wizardry.


I need some tudca, is grizzly G2G?

>>41799373
stand back. incoming saw + pso + keto meme shill post any second...

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>>41799386
Tied between
Alex and JM. Even ESTP is more alpha than that wannabe Templar.

Organised another outing with exgf on Sunday. Taking her to a superhero convention sort of thing since she loves her superheroes. Just told her it was a surprise.

Also, is it bad to warm up your oil in boiling water? The water in the apartment doesn't run hot enough to really warm them up so I'm using a kettle to boil it.

>>41800376
glass will shatter bring it to a low simmer

>>41800376
>>41800378
tren also degrades/loses potency under high heat.

>>41800376
that girl just fucks with you retard.

>>41800387
>>41800378
shieeeet

>>41800391
I like being fucked with.

>>41800391
is he tongue punching her shit clipper yet

>>41800387
how high heat will fuck it up?

>>41800415
fire pushes tren in the dirt and steals his gf

Can i give my gf 250mg dnp for 2wks?
she's afraid of eggs or something.

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>>41799468
>Bold Ace

>>41800472
But why

>>41800472
>women
>dnp

It never works out well. I told redhead girl about DNP and she asked if I could get her some. Told her straight up to fuck off and never touch the shit because she will die.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3360973/Slimmer-25-died-taking-controversial-rat-poison-diet-pill-worried-eaten-birthday-dinner.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2315433/Sarah-Houston-cause-death-Boiled-alive-internet-slimming-pills-DNP.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/student-died-diet-pills-text-fearing-death-article-1.2302283

>>41800492
she wants to get shredded up before our vacation

>>41800401
he is a worse version of you, you fuck random hoes after every time you break up with your ''''''ex''''''', this retard pays for some girls food and cries in her lap.
just when you think nobody can get more dense than bimbsy.

>>41800495
hmm, no kidding.
guess she might have to keto up

>>41800472
What do eggs have to do with cutting
Way too much fat

>>41800515
nah I got over all that, I mostly just work and lift now. I told my fuckbuddies it wasn't gonna work out. my ex still calls me occasionally but I haven't answered or kept up with her in like 8-9 weeks. feels really great.

>>41800530
Women also have a risk of cataracts. Yeah, wouldn't ever give DNP to anyone except myself. Not worth having that blood on your hands.

>>41800539
but what do you do about dat dere libido

>>41800569
>>>/misc/

>>41799150
Ey nigs, I'm on a test-e + proviron cycle.
Can I train the same mucles groups 3 times a week? Been thinkng of doing a full body workout everyday, kinda light but still full body. Good idea y/n?

>>41800536
She read somewhere online "i'm afraid of frying my eggs"
idk man, i'm not a chick.
>>41800540
i been taking 250 before bed and have no issues at all.
I think though dnp hinders gains. I blasted back on tren and was getting the daily changes, but once adding just some dnp at night, i'm not getting the wild growth.
tfw trying to cut and get juicy too fast too soon

>>41800585
Sure. I did fullbody 5 days a week on my first cycle. It's pretty fucking taxing deadlifting so much though.

>>41800536
keto

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r8 don't h8

>>41800664
That's on a gram?

>>41800597
Won't my recovery be fucked though? That's what I'm worried about

>>41800631
Oh just eat no carbs, low fat, still in keto, far less cals

If you want bacon everyday, bulk
Smh

>>41800664
Eating a vehan diet and taking vold showers got me about there too
Im glad Im not the only one utilizing this power

>>41800794
Possibly. It's individual desu.

>>41800798
I guess. But that's so damn limiting on your food choices. If you want to do that, just do psmf.

>>41800794
Muscle wise, nah if you eat and sleep enough.

Joints wise? Maybe not. Cns should be fine if you stay lower in intensity.

>>41800818
>i should be able to drink heavy cream on a cut
Smdh

>>41800872
Yes I should. Fite me.

>>41799619
How much do you have to lose? Current Bf %?

>>41799670
DHB cyp

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Would you?

>>41799183
>>41799150
Why it get deleted

>>41801017
I wouldn't fight for it but Id make an attempt

>>41801024
Lolis

>>41800886
Ok. Come to the us
Bring your ex to rape

>>41800991
Too much
Like 80%

No estrogen sides anons is it time to add another compound? I have 2 bottles of adex and 1 of aromasin that are probably never going to be used unless I add something, but I want to add EQ.

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is it possible to get as strong as Guts if one takes steroids. His sword is 225 pounds. Can someone swing a 225 barbell with one arm?

>>41801185
No

>>41801195
worlds strongest man top 3 contestants can maybe do it?

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>>41801017
blah blah berry so hard king arthur, >muh dick etc. etc., I literally don't give a fuck anymore. or, to keep it on topic, all of the fucks :^)

>finished cycle jan 15 (5 months ago)
>havent done anything since
>all of a sudden get gyno in the past 2 weeks

wat do

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Can you all redpill me on clen?

Some say it's great, some say it's good but the sides suck, others say it's overrated and to stick with ECA

>>41801752
Very stronk, i get mild sides but i still dont like it, makes feel sick/unhealthy as fuck, plus it cause necrosis in your heart nigga

>>41801779
Also dnp is much more effective if you are into taking poison

>>41801779
Was that pharma or ugl clen?

>>41801832
Pharma

What's it mean if you are getting lean retardedly fast on DNP, BUT the weight on the scale is the same?

every day the skin gets tighter and i feel harder, can pinch smaller skin folds, but the scale isn't really moving anymore after the ~2 week mark. it was moving fast for the first two weeks though

>>41801979
Dnp makes you hold water which you hold until a week after you stop

Bahttub chemical man fucked up my order. Reeeeeee

Love watching some dyel personal trainer teaching female "proper form"

>>41802249
I had some Reddit cuck source send me a different guys order but it was like twice as much as mine so I kept it and ghosted him LMAO

>>41800586
shes's right
as far as i know many a year ago people were saying how dnp can fuck up womens eggs

>>41802335
Lucky duck.
Ol matey got my whole order right except for 4 vials of one compound. I'm not really worried cause it will get sorted out. I just don't want to have to deal with this

I'm calling this the "TNT Stack" :

Trest 50mg ED - for all-out mass gains and strength
NPP 50 mg ED - for joint support and mass gains
Tren Ace 50 mg ED - for nutrient partitioning/fat control, strength, and mass

Covers all the bases for one hell of a bulk. It's dynamite!

>>41802413
Whatever it takes right babe

>>41801161

>Dosing your AI based on "sides" instead of bloodwork

Bad idea, man

>>41801752
literally combines the worst of DNP and ECA/Y in terms of effectiveness to sides ratio. for fast poison use the former, for slow (mostly) safe ""supplement"" use the latter. albuterol is somewhat better in that regard albeit not much, and, who would have guessed, also somewhat less effective. you can see a pattern here

>>41802442

Lol tell me that combo doesn't make you horny just thinking about it...

>>41801979
Do you nerds even know how it works, or...?

>>41802413
>trest
i hope you dont aromatize heavily because that could be a huuuge bitch

>>41802413
I do not mind pinning but all that shiet ED would annoy me to hell and back like three weeks in, tops.

>>41802456
>>41802464
That's the main reason im not keen for trest. That and the fear of popping a pec

>>41802413
what have I become that I can't really see anything wrong with this

>>41802464

Just like anything else... Estimate a good AI starting dose, get the bloods, dial it in...

>>41802478

That's why you brew it into a blend and just draw up a mL!

>>41802493
>trest/npp/tren a blend
assuming no LARP (if only because I'm bored), how fun is the pip? genuine question.

>>41802490

As long as you have plenty of AI on hand, and Caber (three 19-nors here, after all), there isn't anything wrong with it haha

>>41802509

I'm just planning it for a future blast, so I can't say. Shouldn't be all that bad, though. 150mg/mL is a lower concentration of short esters than the 175mg/mL Tren A/Test P blend I'm running right now, and PIP isn't an issue.

>>41802516
well that's what I'm concerned about. I would probably fry my brain with the amounts of prolactin control I'd need for this, but that was only the second thought. the first was CMON!, sadly

>>41801185
If you ran tren and dbol together

>>41802443
Reddit

>>41802535

Haha, well, Prolactin control is a very individual thing, but a lot of people don't even need Caber. I'm running 560mg/wk Tren Ace and took 0.25mg Caber E3D when I started out because I was worried about Prolactin and it crashed my PRL. I dropped it and my Prolactin is on the lower end of the normal range now. Proper E2 control helps reduce PRL issues.

>>41802530
oh. I thought you were unironically running this already. well if we're playing a sweet game of future stacks, I'm wanting to do some trest, mdht and (legit) primo tomfoolery during one of my 2018 blasts. not sure if that's a good idea. not sure at all.

>>41802554
prolactin is literally my middle name. but to even it out I have dopamine receptors of steel it seems. I can even abuse the shit recreationally once in a while and function fine. but still. three 19-nors is just awful nigga

>>41802547

Sure, man. Continue to inject compounds and pop pills based on how you "feel," rather than hard scientific data that shows what's really going on in your body. Who needs those fancy numbers anyway?

>>41802571

Haha, it's not for the faint of heart, that's for sure!

>>41802575
Not same guy but tbqfh I start to feel sides (both high and low e2) already when bloods are still technically gucci by numbers alone. I do agree though. Just yoloing this based on feeling alone is a bit risky depending on what you run.

>>41802584
Not for the faint of TIT MILK AND DEAD DICK you mean.

>>41802598

Lol does everyone just assume that someone is just gonna be running this stack without a dopamine agonist on hand and hoping for the best? Mention some 19-nors together and people instantly jump on the Prolactin sides like Caber doesn't exist haha

>>41802639
I was mostly shitposting kek. But you do have to admit that 3 of em at once are risky business even with Caber.

>>41802658

All good, homie. And yeah, it's definitely a beast. Luckily all those short esters make it pretty easy to drop quickly if crazy sides turn out to be uncontrollable.

>>41802661
That's probably true, yeah. Trest/Deca/Tren E sounds kinda awkward lol

4th Day in with Tren Ace and damn it fucks my sleep up. I usually sleep 7 hours a day and wake up super early, now I've been literally sleeping for 10 hours the past two days. God damn.

>>41802693

Yeah, thinking about that pinning schedule makes my head hurt... :P

>>41802699
>sleeping too much on tren
what did he mean by this

>>41802721

Yeah, I figured he was either trolling or got some bunk Tren... I don't really get insomnia on Tren, per se, but I do wake up at about 5 AM without an alarm, no matter what time I went to bed the night before...

going to the doc. i had my test levels checked out and their at 300 so im trying to convince my doc to do high dose trt and let me do it at home. i'm thinking they want me to go to the office for each visit.
how do i convince the doctor to do this?

>>41802741
Damn, might be bunk? Damn, thoguht my source was gtg.

>>41802753
>300
>high dose trt for home use
what can go wrong

>>41802770
what can go wrong? making me worry now

>>41802770
>>41802753
what is a high dose, and what ester

>>41802791
trt apparently usually goes from the range of 100 to 200mg weekly. and i'm not sure what ester they use maybe enanthate. they apparently also use cypionate for trt, along with a few other options outside of injection

>>41802821
EU enanthate
US cypionate

>>41802778
intentionally asking for basically "hey can I lmaosupraphysiological while you are not watching me h-heh" from the get go, kek

>>41802753
you're gonna want 100-150mg if you want to stay in natty range or just a bit above and use no ai.

everything above is cancer and not worth it.

Redhead girl asleep in my bed. Cuddling her. Feels good.

>>41804332
Do you even have a job or school? Or is your job to /blogpost on /fraud/?

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>>41801017
>even her name sounds slutty

sign me the fuck up

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>>41804332
fugg her, otherwise I don't want to hear another word about this degenerate whore you're using as a daki. also why are you posting on /fraud/ while cuddling a broad?

>>41799150

Opinions on my stack:

>500 sustanon weekly (pharma grade)
>80mg anavar daily
> 4iu HGH 5/2 (pharma grade)
>0.5 Arimidex EOD (pharma grade)
> 80mg Clenbuterol

I get everything name brand from a pharmacy except the clen and var. The HGH is very potent, despite being 4iu, relative to generic blue tops etc.

Downside is I spend about 1200 a month.

>>41804534
How fucking big are you?

Also why clen?

>>41804551

5'10 210-215 pounds fluctuating

Clen for burning up a bit of winter belly fat. Im doing 4 miles running every day in the morning then weights in the evening.

>>41804534
sustanon is ass cancer

so is clen but in a different way

>>41804534
Sust is dumb
Clen is dumb

You're bandwagoning on compounds that just sound good.

Jelly of the hgh but it's definitely wasted on you.

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>>41804332
FUG HER

Natty here thinking about going /fraud/

>already have back acne
>balding anyways
>phimosis, can't fuck properly anyways

Do I even have anything to loose?

>>41804572
>>41804580

I appreciate the advice, but please clarify.

I do sust because I don't want to pin EOD and because it synergizes really well with the var and hgh for hard gains.

As for the clen, I know its not fantastic without t3 but it gives me some good thermogenesis during the day when I'm at my desk job.

Tren would be a good addition but I think it's redundant with Var.

>>41804604
it can always get worse

how do tits sound to you?

>>41804604
research more, your dick doesn't shrink, if anything it gets bigger

>>41804534
>legit GH and ai, what I assume to be legit var
nais
>the rest
have a resounding "oh well"

>>41804609
you don't understand how sustanon works. a blend of a bunch of esters doesn't mean you need to pin less often, it means you need to pin as often as the fastest ester dictates

steroidcalc.com and plot your injection schedule.

it you "don't want to pin eod" just get regular ass test e/c. or hell, test u if you wanna go that far

>tren redundant with var
Jesus Christ you're dumb

>>41804609
Bahahaha do you get all your information from tnation articles?

>Sust
>Hard gains
It's just a retarded mix of test esters. Pin test e and you get the same effect, and only have to pin 2x a week.

Clen is shit period. If you're running hgh drop the fuck out of that compound. Or don't, hell up the dose

>Tren
>Redundant with var
Hurr durr. You shouldn't be running it anyway though

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>>41804609
>because it synergizes really well with the var and hgh for hard gains.

uhm yeah thats what test does in conjunction with hgh, its not sustanon itself.

whats it like coming off a cycle, i feel amazing, both body and mind, way better person on cycle

will all it all go away

>>41804658
>meh2.gif
Do you have autism? Thats not what his facial expression is conveying at all.

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>>41804697
>reading into filenames

How to minimize hairloss while on tren? I'm shedding like crazy, only tren does it

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Fraud this does it, I've been lifting for 6 years now since I was 14 and I need to know right now ... Is there any chance Murphy is natural? I need honest redpill answers.... If he is I'm done with the natty life and I'm ordering a vial of test ASAP and doing a test on cycle. I'm sick and tired of being lied to and misconstruing my genetic potential for YouTube frauders. Red pill me... I want you to give me the honest truth about natty lifting after 6+ years

>>41804890
*if he isn't

>>41804890
yes

>>41804902
Yes what?

>>41804890
hes most definitely not natty.

>>41804890
>Tfw 3x as vascular but not half as shredded

I should psmf

>>41804890
Not natty.

Welcome to the winning team. We have great gains, gyno scares, and inferiority complexes. Enjoy your stay.

Is DHEA a meme supplement?

Some bro told me to take 100mg ed during pct and between cycles. Do I need this shit if I'm only 25?

>>41804902
could be natty, but he is not natty.
but for sure achievable, not for everyone though.

>>41804890
>>41804897
>>41804902
>>41804923
>>41804970
>>41804986
>>41804998
>>41804999


ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MINDS

Cant you see that he breathes human growth hormone? Him being always vascular, ripped, and giant at the same time?

You guys at /fit/ give me the impression that atleast 80% of you are between 14-20 because you ask dumbass questions

Cant you guess it yourselves that he takes anabolic steroids?
Dont you understand that in order to look like him, or sort of like him, you need to atleast take something which works as an enhancement?

There were these idiots asking about whether Jeff Seid and Zyzz were natty or not.
Is this fucking bait or something?

Have you ever been to a BODYBUILDING sports center or something? Most of the guys there are jacked and they take anabolics.

I dont condone steroid use, but if you want to look like that.... begin with light Anavar cycles.

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>>41805038
>if you want to look like that.... begin with light Anavar cycles.

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>>41805038
>begin with light Anavar cycles.

10/10

>>41804890
>>41805038


Also, don't start roiding right now.

6 years should be enough for you to look good naked. I don't believe you working out for 6 years.


If not taken absolutely correct (what I am talking about is having a sport-doktor to check your blood plasma, test levels) you will have serious health problems in later life.

Remember- if you are a douchebag wanting to look good by spending time in the gym, anabolics are not for you.

Anabolic steroids are either for bodybuilders, which you are not (i prefer the term fitness-maniacs for /fit/), powerlifters or sportspeople like boxers, olympic weightlifters, even swimmers.

Trust me. I now this from experience.

>>41802753

Gotta find the right doc, man. "Men's health" and "Anti-Aging" clinics are your best bet. They'll usually put you on TRT even if your levels are in the normal range, as long as you pay up. My doc gives me enough Test C to keep me at 1,100 ng/dL year-round, with AI (that I don't even need on my TRT dose, so I use it when blasting), and only asks for bloods once a year. I pin at home and give him my once-a-year bloods through LabCorp. It's basically the perfect cruise setup.

>>41805038

Dude everyone always says "are you retarded it's so obvious they aren't natty blah blah blah" but the truth is I've been lifting for 6 years and still can't tell the difference between a natty and frauder. It's so hard to tell when you have zero experience with steroids as you can just write it off as they have better genetics than you or they are doing something you aren't doing .... There's a blurred line that I can't identify because I've just never had experience with gear. It's bothered me so much recently but now I'm starting to come to the realization that 99% of the time if I even have to ask they are most likely taking something. I'm just so tired of being lied to anon.... It makes my efforts all the time seem like they aren't worth while and the longer I stay natty the more time I feel I'm wasting away. Oh well... Guess I'm gonna start looking into getting test. I feel like because I have 6 years of lifting under me a test only cycle will do my physique wonders.

>>41805059
>>41805056

If you want to hop on test right now or hgh, you can damage your liver and blood. Not only this- steroids are proven to damage cell mitosis cycling.

This is a link to my native language guide to steroids and their effects:


I said anavar because it has highest anabolic index (meaning, you will get the most of it without much damage to your body)


http://sportwiki.to/%D0%9B%D1%83%D1%87%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%80%D1%81%D1%8B_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2

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>>41805093
this just keeps getting better

>you can damage your liver and blood
> damage cell mitosis cycling
>THAT FUCKING LINK

>>41805088
Do not do stupid thing idiot!

You will burn kidney and stomack

First go to doktor, he will tell u what do
Become sportsman, do not be walkie-gym-talkie.

Sorry for english I russian

>>41804890
He is natty
He just do those poses for pics
He explained that in a video

>>41805100
Shut up english nigger
Something funny?
I say you damage your blood because anabolics damage blood cells, reproduction becomes slower.

Follow my link and use google translate because it is russan

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>Literally just noticed that I have a completely white patch of skin on the base of my penis

>Google it: Vitiligo

That's it lads

Fuck this world

>>41805088

Most guys who make a living off their bodies are going to be on gear, simply because it's the most efficient way to go about it. The undeniable truth is that steroids work, and they work extremely well. If there wasn't such a stigma about it in modern society (and potential legal consequences), we'd be much more open to talking about it, but as it stands right now, a lot of us just have to deny, deny, deny. To me, taking steroids is no different from taking a scoop of creatine (just on a higher level). Everyone, natties included, wants to build muscle as efficiently as possible, so we take stuff (supps, gear, etc.) to help the process along. Choosing to run gear is a personal decision, and if you weigh the pros and cons, do your research, and decide that you can handle it responsibly, I say go for it.

>>41805142

All my skin is white, not just the skin around my dick... Guess I'm fucked.

>>41804604
acne - accutan
balding - buzzcut get over it or take masT meme stack

>>41804609
better spend that 1,2k on education

>>41805038
>>41805066
>>41805093
>>41805117
these posts lmao

it's time to stop

>>41805243
Whatever you say faggot.

You either give up after some years of natty lifting without results, or begin improperly roiding which gives you great results, after which you get health problems at 50 years old and die without hitting your 80s.

I'm on Tren and currently rocking a really high-volume PPL split that has been working well for me in the gains department. Still, from time to time, I consider the possibility of changing things up a little. Tren makes it to where I can practically lift all day, and lately I've been kinda fantasizing about reverting back to a classic brosplit where I can just absolutely destroy one muscle group each day. Is it stupid for me to feel that way?

>>41802753
If you are young, most docs will make you see and endocrinologist before starting trt. Then the endo may make you do a round of clomid/hcg to get your natty levels back before even considering trt.

Save yourself time/money, go to an anti-aging or testosterone doctor if you want legit trt. Otherwise source it on the Internet

>>41805066
spent 3 years lifting no results
so called sport doc
>keep doing nothing wrong
3 more years lifting +diet ahitty results
so called sport doc
>nothing wrong keep doing
demand bloodtest
wtf 150 bloodtest
>nothing wrong health level keep doing
demand endo 2nd opinion
>shit dude your balls are dead you sterile you need trt

"sport doctors"

>>41805088
rule of thumb, if you make money out of your body you are on roids or hgh. period.
1in a million (guestimated) have goodlike natty genetics like masT
not saying its impossible to get on this level but 99% didnt get there natty

>>41804589
>>41804511
I don't want to. It feels like I'm cheating on exgf.

>>41805348
its called ex for a reason

>>41805075
how did you get them to let you take the test at home? and they prescribed you an AI also?
how much is labcorp?

>>41805348
you think your ex-gf fucked noone else in those 2 months?

where can i go to learn about specific sterons?

>>41804001
why do you say that?

>>41805529
Youtube

>>41805520
dont ruin it for him kek

>>41805541
Because he is a cuck

What should my diet look like if I'm trying to recomp on 200/600 test/tren?

220lbs 15% bodyfat

I was thinking that I start -500 tdee and ramp up weekly to maintenance, then judging from there.

First time tren so I'm unsure how much of the recomp effect is just hype

>>41805594
Try fasting , high protein & fat, low carb.

>>41805636
>fasting
>high fat

>>41805309
>a round of clomid/hcg
would that actually possibly work to bring my levels up?
>or source it on the internet
but i'm scared to, getting caught getting it in the mail or at home or when i travel

>>41805636
>>41805639
Yeah all the broscience revolves around no lipogenesis from carbs

Intermittent fasting, or maybe just really tight carb timing might be a good idea though

>>41805520
She was already fucking someone else when she was with him, why do you think she left him in the first place

Just used him as a backup, just in case

Can't believe you would chase someone like that like a fucking beta cuck, man the fuck up and move on.

>>41805722
MasT do you have that pic of yourself hands on hips in blue boxers/shorts?

Literally my goal right now and I deleted it by accident with a bunch of bs on my phone

>>41805292
Shit man, just do an Upper/Lower every day

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>>41805541
why go above natty levels and get all the risks you get from a normal blast without even doing a blast?

>>41805576
>pic related

>>41800484
>>165 test U
Fug I am jelly, wish test u was more commonly stocked

>>41799373
finasteride reduces the enzymes that cause testosterone to convert to dht. so no real point of using it when you are on mast because that's pretty much DHT

starting to get gyno though my AI dosage of .5mg arimidex EOD. Should i just bump it up to .5mg ED?

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>>41805783
I am at work now, but i think you mean this pic

otherwise i always have the pic on dutch fag form

https://forum.bodybuilding.nl/media/users/th0maz.121335/

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i already looked great natty.. BAKA

i never had to start steroids, they all made it worse

Now i have a major muscle dyformia cancer complex

I AM SCARED TO WEAR A t-shirt in public without feeling skinny, i said it

>>41805934
I think of the top right pic when I make love to my gf

n-no homo

>>41805934
Fuaaaark goddamn better than I remembered.

This was on like 500mg test and some mast right?

Holy fuck you bastard

Chicken rice and broccoli? Some eggs and nuts? I'm coming to dethrone you mast. I fucking hate myself. Blast for months and still look worse than your natty pics. Nothing but disgust fuels me

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>working on sleeve this weekend
>lady friend staying in my king suite w/ me
>offered a gig modeling a cosplay at a near con
>balls feels good shaved
>got a beard trim
>beef was on sale
>got to see my sister

good week

>>41806013
I feel sorry for your loss

>>41806030
Yes correct. Use it as a motivation.

Believe in yourself

>>41806052
much does your sister bench?

>>41804765
HELP ME MY HAIR IS LITERALLY FALLING OUT

>>41806152
Ask MasT he's the resident hair guru

second week of TRT and I have boners and I am actually happy for no reason. it's only 120mg of test e but I feel amazing, it this normal?

also how does PSMF mix with TRT? i've seen a lot of people mentioning that

>>41806193
If you were really low T it is possible, good for you brah.

How do i get my doctor to test my hormone levels? I want to get them tested out of curiosity and in hope im low T so can get TRT.

>>41806193
what was your original t?

>>41806307
300 total t and 3 free t in a 4-40 range. Doc says its perfectly normal for a 20 years old so I got myself some UGL gear and started self-administering TRT

>>41806152
for hair loss i would suggest going on:

keto shampoo(once a week)
Pumpkin seed oil pills(3x1000mg)
saw palmetto(5x450mg)

asap now before you start going in denial. Keto shampoo is most effective for hair loss and the other ones for thickenss. Biotin helps also(10mgx1)

>>41806285
Ask them to get blood checked?

>>41805884
you're a real genius huh

>>41806193
it doesn't "mix," it's just that psmf works even better when you're on test due to its muscle sparing abilities and a trt dose is enough to benefit from these

>>41806193
My doctor told me he wouldnt do it for any old reason because it is expensive to do tests.

which oral would you recommend as a kickstart during natties first blast?

>>41806704
sex

>>41806704
Adrol or dbol

>>41806285
why hope to be low t to get on trt?
low t sucks.
are you looking to go to one of those docs that people mentioned earlier in the thread that prescribes oodles and doodles of t? because i guess then trt is good if you have normal t levels
>>41806339
see, my levels are low too but i'm scared to self administer (because of laws n shit of sterons). but i know it would be cheaper and easier with more freedom if i did it myself instead of trying to find the right doctors and stuff.

>>41806758
Pretty much, just want to get free test that i know is legit.

Might fix my chronic fatigue and cloudy head too.

>>41806152
You can't prevent hair loss from tren.

>>41806975
Will my hair grow back out when I stop?

>>41807013
probably

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>>41807181

>>41799373
Finasteride would only prevent test from being converted to dht.

You can get topical antiandrogens to prevent balding but there are not studies to show that they work

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>>41800415
>>41800387

what do you guys take to take care of your liver?
i have hep c

>>41805093
Cyкa блядь

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>>41807529
You gonna die. I usually just run nac on var/mDHT/proviron/or epi. Stronger orals you probably want tudca and nac.

What are your alt and AST levels normally?

>>41807294
I'm always having second thoughts of mine being dnp piss. this furthers my suspicion.

>>41807582
just ordered some GSS 250tudca/250nac
no roids just sick

>>41807670
It piss it sick it revolting

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How much of your groin do you guys shave? I usually just do around the shaft.

>>41807788
Can't doctors give you something to help? Udca is tudcas cousin but I think it's prescription only. Maybe try that.

>>41808038

Everything including balls.

Ive become really good at it, do it E3D

If i have EPO and HCG just chillin in powder form, how long would they be good for?

>>41808038

Infectious Diseases doctor is impossible to see unless you book months in advance
I have to find someone to script me for the cure med, so either her, or i convince the GP to write me a script so i can get it filled and shipped from the orient, at about an 88k price difference.

>>41808038
basically just wanted something (tudca/nac apparently) to help while i get the big guns in order

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I'm still not sure if i should add some orals to my first ever cycle. Test takes some time before you can feel the effects and i would like to start right off the bat. Im bit worried about oral side effects.

Whats the best cutting roid? Thinking of adding some tren to my dnp to attain single digits. Losing too much mass without juice

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>>41808410
Have you already started? If not, just do test and be patient man. I personally think it's best to figure out how you react to test in regards to e2 levels and such before you start mixing in orals, but that's just my opinon.

>>41808505
i guess you are right

>>41805965
You are my goal, my endgame.
Teach me.

What are the kids using to get laid online these days? I hear Tinder is a no-go now.

>>41808620
Christian Mingle

Could sleep last night because my heart was pounding from tren. Had a 100 resting heart rate. It's down to 75 now.

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>>41808620
Srs, it sucks these days. Going straight to the source and DMing on Insta is a high stakes game but it pays off well if you don't look like shit / radiate autismo

>>41808418
Bump

>>41808620
Tinder is still goat. don't listen to the uglies

oh and don't be ugly

>gonna go to sunnycon in less than a day
>gonna fuck caked up teens in anime costumes
>test out my oral jelly cialis ive stashed for a while onw
>tastes fuckin terrible
>expiration date : january 2017

OH MY FUCKING GOD IM DOOMED

>>41809002
but did it still work?

>>41809029

dunno, just tasted a little bit.

im not eating expired viagra, expired roids is where i draw the line.

>>41809052
expiration date on medicine is super conservative.

i dont think you should worry.

>>41809052
Its not the pills that expire its just the fda approval. Idk about jelly tho

>>41809064

tastes like shit though, pretty sure the last time i took jelly viagra it tasted pretty good.

rather not be shitting myself on saturday.

>>41809087
>>>41809064
>tastes like shit though, pretty sure the last time i took jelly viagra it tasted pretty good.
>rather not be shitting myself on saturday.
But that's what those bitches enjoy.

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>watching game of thrones again
>season 5
>watch ramsay bolton fuck sansa stark while the dickless theon greyjoy watches

how can one person be so alpha

>>41809002
>oral jelly cialis
wtf

>>41805520
I might be the biggest beta on earth but I know she hasn't because I know her

>>41809164
do you read these posts before you post em?

cmon man.

>>41806052
What costume and which con?

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>>41809164
If you really knew her that well, you would've known what to do to keep her from leaving and done it, friendo. move the fuck on already, this is too fucking depressing to watch.

>>41809164
>she's not like other girls

LMAO

Been a couple of weeks on estro, starting to feel no sex drive. Haven't been trying to gain muscle, just keeping myself low bf from two cycles with cardio and calisthenics. My bench looks so lonely.

Jerrysama, it's habbenig.

>>41809335
Did this post make sense in your head?

>>41809368
it made perfect sense

he's taking estrogen to become a trap

>>41809382
Trannies have an entire board to blog about being subhuman

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>>41809413

>>41809187
some dude with a fire beard named endeavor? I haven't seen the anime but the lady making the costume gets commissioned to make v expensive wigs and makes her own cosplays. she's decently popular so it'll be fun to basically model her work for her

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>>41809484
FOTM anime and he's the fujoshi-bait's dad, have fun m8

>>41809484
ahhh from hero academy

>>41809527
yeah the lady making the cosplay is doing the son idk I should probably watch the show I figured it was a hard trendy show but my buddy has decent taste in current anime and he says it's at least fun the only current anime that really gets me atm is Thunderbolt

if nothing else the character has a fun design and I have to do zero work for it so why not

>>41809183
Of course I don't. It keeps me candid and entertaining for /fraud/'s pleasure.

>>41809191
I did know what would keep her from leaving. Why do you think I'm so heartbroken? Because I feel like a retard since it was so easy to keep her.

>>41809254
She seriously isn't.
>inb4 every guy thinks the girl he loves his different
I mean it in the most serious sense. She does not respond like a normal girl.

>>41809571
How old are you?

>>41809592
early to mid twenties.

>>41809605
Did she leave you and get other dick?

Or did she get other dick and leave you?

>>41809645
Neither.

>>41809654

Then what's the fucking problem?

>>41809654
[citation needed]

>>41809665
Because she left me and I dislike that.
>>41809675
Honestly, she hasn't. I know /fraud/ won't believe me but I believe me.

>>41808235
wait are you suggesting that you will be lifting and getting big while taking harvoni? from what I've read most people seem to be essentially bed ridden for the duration of the treatment

>>41809737
consider the following tho: it doesn't hurt us that you have expectations of s typically self serving demographic (young people in general) a true pragmatist would probably endeavor in the path of least resistance or the more efficient use of energy which is the assumption that young people don't give a shit about others feelings and like to fuck js doesn't really matter if she is or isn't a whore just assume she is and then u aren't upset when she fucks u over

Someone here selfmedicate for thyroid? My TSH is 0.8 on 135 t4 and 15 t3, is this okay or too low? Could i be hurting muscle gain using this dose? I already was a hypo but i started using t3 because i had symtoms and my bloods showed i was in the lower range but doctor refused to change my dose

>>41809841
You just posted this on reddit

>>41809808
I'm not a pragmatist because pure pragmatism is dumb and unfulfilling.

>>41809861
Yes, but i want meme responses from here

>>41809884
No Mexicans allowed

>>41809862
so is being a fucking idiot about romance I never said pure or to densely populate one aspect of a spectrum u should really think occasionally

How come bimbo stopped spelling out words and using correct grammar after his ex dumped him? Some kind of mid life crisis?

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>>41809905
I am from Argentina

>>41809927
these are getting more and more pathetic.

>>41809907
I know. Hence why like most normal people I use both pragmatism and emotion to make my decisions.

>>41809934
Yeah he really is pathetic. Why hasn't bimbo just kysed himself is my question.

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>>41809949

>>41809558
>she's doing the son

So you gonna fug your kid or wha

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>>41809936
that's not at all what you just described, however. weird stuff dude gl

>>41809977
Are you drunk bimbsie?

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Not sure how much is tren and how much is placebo anymore.

Waking up before 7am every day wide fucking awake and horny as a motherfucker, that's probably not placebo because I thought trensomnia meant you can't fall asleep.

Feel fucking amazing. Like euphoria, obviously not normal but that might just be placebo.

Appetite is gone but not in a bad way. I'm not craving bullshit like I usually do which is fantastic. Easy to chew down a few pounds of chicken with some almonds and spoon or two of pb.

Applying at all kinds of restaurants cause I'm tired of my current job. Holy shit the number of smiles was definitely more than normal. I think it's just cause I'm a big guy™ and I look snazzy in a polo. But I'll pretend it's the tren pheromones.


Mindset is incredibly strange but that's not unusual. I keep imagining the internal organs working when I talk to people. Not in an edgy way but in a 'what is this being that's talking to me really doing' like a less abstract look at reality instead of focusing on the social posturing small talk. Also really taking the time to meditate on the notion of death and the passage of time. I continue to remind myself that I'm gonna die, possibly get old.and sick and have all my joints and organs go to shit before that, but definitely at least gonna die. And so is everyone I know. Everything I've ever come to enjoy or lovlove, it's going to disappear and something new will take its place. And those thoughts are actually incredibly joyful. I don't have to worry about the bullshit, I'm going to die. It'll all go away no matter what I do. So everything in the meantime is just play. I'm fully doing as I want.

Blog.over just wanted to share my thoughts

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>>41809992
nope I don't fuck around much anymore I just got lazy w/ this site you it's not you hos give a shit how I present a topic so minimal effort I guess
>>41810006
thats a lotta words mirin

>>41810028
thats a wholesome meme.

>>41810044
i really enjoy it because its essentially the last decade of scotts writing summed up in one image

Stop saying MOUTHBREATHER you disgusting faggot. Who uses memes inspired by a little girl? Pathetic bitch kill yourself.

>>41810063
did you see the new alien covenant movie?

>>41810064
ok

>>41810028
I'm in a really good mood almost feels like a stimulant.

Like I said it's hard to tell if I'm placeboing myself but if I was I think I'd be acting more like an asshole but I've been unable to get mad at anything the last few days.

Waiting for the mental breakdowns that follow. Who knows though maybe this is just a gift amd I get the euphoria for free so long as I don't overdo things. Too bad I definitely will push it too far, how else am I supposed to learn my boundaries with this shit.

>>41810078
yes 3x i had to see it a second time to bask in the body horror and a third to decide if I liked the movie or not.

Ultimately it connects thematically quite well to Alien but it feels flat in some regards and if you aren't a huge Alien fan, it may just feel redundant. I really enjoyed it just for the visual stimulation and creature design. I get a literal fear boner from anything Alien related.

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>rest day today
>back is in pain, with back pumps flaring up every now and then
>gyno poking through my tight shirt a little bit, making me insecure and sad
>ate close to 4500 cals today
>all i want to do is binge eat on chicken, cottage cheese, rice, bread, etc
>topped off my meal with a large peanut butter brownie and a sugar cookie sandwiched between two sliced pieces of raisin bread
>every meal i kept calling myself a fat ugly fuck, each bite
>i just want to punish myself

>laying in bed feeling incredibly full
>i'm so god damn tired
>only 6pm
>can't decide if I want to kill the rest of this peanut butter jar or sleep
>I'll probably do both

But at least I'm getting big.

Yesterday I felt awesome. Now I feel sad and incredibly tired. Hopefully gym tomorrow at 5am will be good....

/blog

>>41810133
Are you the guy bulking into bearmode?

>>41810111
you think its worth watching the old alien movies if i havent?

i only saw resurrection and prometheus.

>>41810162
Yeah...
I should probably disappear for a while tbqh

>>41810064
what are you even trying to say

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Should mast e hold at 275mg/ml with 1%ba/20%bb?

>>41810167
Alien is my favorite movie. Yes. Definitely see Alien and Aliens. Alien had direct creature design done by Giger, once again but the movie itself is odd. Especially since it had like 3 different cuts floating around.

Resurrection is a really bizarre time too. It was directed by the dude who did Amelie and written by joss whedon. Resurrection can't decide if it's weird 90s gritty/sexual or campy, and has a really dreamy feel.

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>>41810245
Christ those are some below average asses. I'm sorry brehs.

>>41810254
*alien 3 is weird

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>>41810245
good lord why did you save that

I hope this red yeast rice stuff lives up to the hype, I want to be able to blast with no regard for my lipids (also pls send DHB)

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I took a 10 day break from pmsf that ended exactly 2 weeks ago because of my ankle

But now it hurts to put weight on my ankle again after 2 weeks.
I feel like cutting without cardio is pointless.

Should I drop the tren and chill (drink myself stupid) for longer than 10 days
Or up the dose and lite bulk with healing peps for like 6 weeks
I have been on tren for like 20 weeks or something

Fuck

>>41809335
Post feminine benis

>>41810335
it doesn't FDA ruled a while that the active ingredient in RYR constitutes a pharmacological product that has been isolated as a drug on the market. All RYR on the market has been standardized to contain negligible amounts of active ingredient, or they face lawsuits.

>>41810133
you sound incredibly depressed. do you know your estrogen levels? maybe they are fucked?

>>41810354
Gay

hit autosage but still on page 3 so migrate whenever

>>41810403
>>41810403
>>41810403

>>41810185
No worries.

Try and go a little slower on your bulk. I wanna see you succeed

>>41810347
Just do what seems fun or interesting. Remember, no matter what you do your body will break down and you will die.

So enjoy what you have while it's here.

getting ready to run my first cycle end of summer, var 100mg daily for 8 weeks with creatine and ALA. 40/20/20/20 nolva for post cycle, is this good? i realize var only cycles arent really worth the price but i'd like to try a mild anabolic before i pin.

>>41811431
no

100mg var will not be mild nor will it give you gains.

now 100mg var + 500mg test thats gonna get ya proper jacked.