/FAT/ Growing Stronger Edition

>>41712809
>pic

How horrifying

>>41712753
I'd be happy just knowing what size pants I'd fit into

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>>41712824

Is anyone doing FAT 2 FIT on MFP? I'm on Team Bod Squad. June registrations are closed though, for those that aren't.

Why are healthy foods so damn expensive? I can get so much more off of the dollar menu at McDonald's.

>>41712832
there's a point where you have to say 'I need to fix this'
mine was a lot less than that

>>41712824
Yeah I saw it in the /fat/ thread this morning and just had to make a thread with it.

>>41712832
is that boogie

>>41712856
show me
I want to know what people are complaining about

>>41712869
Well like compare the price to a red pepper and a box of pizza rolls.

>>41712856
Healthy food is NOT expensive.


PACKAGED healthy food is very expensive.


Shop produce, meat and dairy and it's NOT expensive. Obviously you need a sizeable amount of cash when you buy these things but they'll last you a couple of weeks rather than one night.

>>41712857
Yep. Mine was when I reached 38 inches waist. Seeing fat people makes me pity them.

>>41712809
How do I become a KETOfag. I've been working out and gotten stronger, but what should I know before I commit to this diet? I'll be buying food soon for the next 2 weeks.

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>all i had for dinner was broccoli because i drank half a gallon of milk and used up most of my caloric budget

>>41712856
Learn how to cook, faggot.

>>41712869
Shrimp, one of the leanest meats there is, is $8 a lb with the shells on. Cheap fatty ground beef is way cheaper.

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>>41712899
I went over myself because of the spaghetti. I was so hungry.

>>41712915
>2200 calories

Shame. A real fuckin shame.

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>>41712915
jesus man

what are you doing to yourself? that sodium is gonna kill you

>>41712954
I'll piss out that salt, but you aren't pissing that cholesterol out. Besides my blood sugar was 82 today. I bet lower than most of you after a meal (my microwave chicken strips).

>>41712954
>all those carbs

never going to make it

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>>41712954
>21 inch medium banana

anyone else got real thirsty the day before fat loss on PSMF? Like 2.5 gallons of water thirsty then a really noticeable fat loss the day after? what makes this happen

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I was craving bad food tonight. Went to McDonalds, got a small fry and 2 snack wraps.

Holy shit, how did I ever eat this? Why did I ever eat this? It was so bad. So so so bad. At my heaviest I would have McDonalds once a week and now it just tastes like shit.

Gonna make it

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Confess.

>>41713035
I haven't gone to the gym in 2 weeks

>>41713035
I ate a bacon, egg, and cheese bagel this morning...

>>41713035
I have nothing to confess. I've stayed at or under my 1500 calorie goal every day since I started a month ago.

>>41713035

At work I get to choose Thursday's lunch for Lunch & Learn, and everyone is pressuring me to get Popeye's.

Please help me /fat/her, what can I eat from there?

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>>41713035
I eat pork for breakfast almost every morning.

I stay under my calorie budget so IDGAF

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>>41713066
Whatever you like child, so long as you stay under your calorie limit for the day.

Also, checked.

>>41713035
I had to work in the town my mother lives in so to save cash I slept in her guest room. She made lasagna and I stood in the kitchen for an hour staring at it and smelling it.

But, padre... its my favorite food that she cooks. It's stunningly good...

And I didn't eat a piece. Fuck yeah.

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>tfw eating 4000 cals on PSMF cheat day

>>41712897
Avoid carbs, that's it really

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>>41712915
>Daily goal - 105g of sugar
>2k+ excess of sodium
Are you even trying?

>do water fast
>lose 1-2 lbs a day

this is weight loss on easy mode, why havent I done it sooner?

>>41712881
I can't bring myself to take a laxative.
I know that I should because my BMs have been really bad since I started dieting and I just want to flush my system out but I can't bring myself to take a laxative.
I'm really funny when it comes to taking things, I don't take pain killers or cold relief etc. The only medication I do take is for my thyroid because if I didn't I wouldn't be able to function.
also running low on my thyroid meds but can't bring myself to go to the doctor for more...

>>41713113
>Daily goal - 105g of sugar
I don't track sugar, nor did I ever change the my fitness pal goal of sugar. I could get rid of it on display but it is sometimes nice to correlate high calorie meals with high sugar. Even though it is obvious sometimes like a Snickers bar being 2/3 sugar.

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>>41712915
salt is goat

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6'2" 231 to 189lbs in a year

I was going to keep cutting but had to stop cause my face turned into blue squiggles don't fall for the cutting Jew REEEE

>>41713134
btw i dont eat back my workout cals. You should never eat back workout cals

>>41713147
I 'mired you yesterday in the CBT thread and I mire you again here. You are my goal body.

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>>41712753
>>41712753

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>>41712892
Tfw down to 38 inch waist from 46 inches

>>41713035
i've been craving mcdoubles for days.
i just want some salty, fatty burgers guys.

>>41713177
42 to 32 in pants. 2XL to M in shirts.

Feels good, right?

>>41713035
>water fasting for two weeks because I went over 3 solid days on a business trip with my fat boss
I'm 48 hours in and the hunger pains are finally gone. Wish me luck. I got my doc on speed dial if shit gets sideways.

Threads are so fucking fast for how fucking fat you retards are.

>>41713166
Thanks friendo

Don't let your dreams be memes

>>41713220
Did you post your full routine in the last thread? Never saw if that other mire got a reply.

>>41713035
Just had some raw fish bowl with a bunch of fish, veggies, and rice.
No idea how many calories and I'm not even going to count it.

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What kind of resistance training are you guys doing? I've been doing SS since Feb and i was thinking about stopping for a while and just really hitting cardio and calisthenics hard because i'm nearing my goal weight.

What do you guys think about that? good idea or nah?

>>41713035
I ate fried chicken today and only put 1 fried leg in when I had a leg and a thigh, otherwise only had a salad and a banana
I just got a slight headache today and I feel like it's due to my diet. I work hard and eat small, so I might not be getting enough vimatins maybe?
I work construction 10 hours a day and aim for 1500kcal daily

>>41713233
I'm not sure I did in one of them,

Basically do a 5x5 pplpp with hypertrophy thrown into the mix and will do another leg day if I can make the gym 6 days.

Look up a video by student aesthetics on ppl routine I think there's 3 parts, I essentially did that exact routine modified slightly.

Good luck

>>41713132
Get your medicine refilled you fucking idiot, your body will get fucked up if you start missing daily prescriptions cold turkey

>>41712897
no need to bother, you can just count calories with MFP on your smartphone. it's super fucking easy these days.

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Over the last year, I spent three months dieting, one month binging on amphetamine, and one month on heroin. The results:

Dieting: Struggled to meet the 1500 requirement, but lost about 1 or 2kg.

High dose daily amphetamine: Would not eat for five days except for when my friends brought a couple of energy bars to my shrouded corpse. Lost probably over 3kg. When my position became untenable, quit amphetamine and developed an unholy appetite and regained heavy weight eating over the next month and a half with constant rebound overeating, over original weight when starting.

Heroin: Initially ate with a normal appetite, but vomited everything up a couple of hours after eating it. Because of dry heaving, couldn't eat anymore and it was like this for the first week.

Because of normalization due to tolerance, constant vomiting slowed down and ceased. Because of constipation and slow metabolism of food, however, my appetite became non existent. Would cook or order food and throw three quarters of it away. Never felt hunger pangs because of the weight and would get uncomfortably bloated if I tried to force myself to eat. Passed only one bowel movement in a period of 28 days. Stopped because I had exams and also ran out of heroin. (p.s being in withdrawal during exams sucks, don't do this)

Result: 3kg lost over the month, and kept it off.

Conclusion: Amphetamines for weight loss are a meme. The lack of peristalsis and metabolism on opiates will keep your appetite off while allowing you to consume small amounts of food, allowing you to continue to survive while losing weight and not damaging yourself with starvation like on amphetamines and then eating it all back. Watch out for an ileus though.

>>41713035
I had like 650 calories left for the day and haven't had dinner yet. Ended up continuing to snack on pistachios because they're at my desk. Finished the bag. Bag is 4 servings, probably less than half a bag was left, but I still counted it as 2 servings.

I still need to have dinner, but I might skip it or just eat beans.

>>41713191
You can at least find a better burger senpai.

>>41713197
jesus, how long did that take?

>>41713249
pls respond

>>41713307
Skip and reap the extra calorie deficit~

Daily reminder that these threads are terrible and none of you are going to make it.

>>41713373
but some of the posters here have...

>>41713373
>started at 339 pounds
>now 223 pounds
kinda feels like im makin it

>>41713276
I love you.

>>41713417
We're all gonna make it brah

>>41713335
year and a half, two.

>>41713035
Just ate Big Cup Reese and Cheerios Lime to satisfy my craving.

How do I make lifting more fun? At this point I'd rather do cardio but I'm turning into a disgusting skinny fat

>>41712841
what comp is that? dont remember reading about it, feel free to add me on mfp if you want though, username is jbmfp1


also, anyone able to recommend a good mp3 player for the gym? i want something light, prob size of ipod shuffle, and some ear phones that wont fall out (no beats tier level of shit).

>>41713169
The only way to know what you could be/do is to push yourself to be your best every day.

>>41713249
pls respond

>>41713035
i-i-i.. I ate 4 slices of pizza ;-;


fug

>>41713197
did 38 pants to 32 and xl shirts to M...its goat

>>41713686
Keep lifting, just change things up, watch some AlphaDestiny and do some unconventional shit

>only guy in my gym doing z press, everyone is mirin'

>>41713033
When I had breakdowns and gave in I realized fast food taste way worse than I remembered too

We're gonna make it

>>41713249
Switch up your routine. Don't want to burn yourself out anon

>>41713717
We had pizza at out meeting on Monday. It is so hard to eat one slice when everyone else is having three. But I managed to just do a single slice.

>>41713035
I cheated on my girlfriend with a woman she hates because she fired my gf a few years ago.

I don't feel bad though

Is it unhealthy to come in under your caloric allowance everyday?

>>41713683
it was more in the literal seance. I can't figure out how my body should/will look once I lose the weight.
I have almost no muscle mass and a strange body shape so trying to picture things doesn't work well for me.
I will eventually try building muscle once I cut to a reasonable body fat level but that's still a long way away.

>>41713854
>>41713759
thanks guys, i think ill stick with the compound lifts but just add in some more accessory work to change things up a bit, i appreciate the replies.

>>41713991
>seance
I meant sense.

>>41713960
Pls respond

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>>41713035
3 mcchickens, 2 large fries, 40 chicken nuggets.

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What are some basic daily exercises I can do to help form good habits, burn a few calories and hopefully build enough strength to actually be able to properly lift weights.

>>41713035
ate an entire large pizza today by myself, its my birthday so I let myself be a fatass for one day right back to the normal cut tomorrow.

>>41713960
>>41714034
>is it unhealthy to eat at a deficit

>>41714047
Pushups
Leg lifts
Squats
Bridges
Pullups/chinups
Short walk.

>>41712809
What is the point of these threads? It's just fatties pitying each other and persuading they are going to make it at least tomorrow.

How good are pickles
>>41714113
Check out the contest log. Some are actually making it.

>>41713960
By how much?

>>41713960
Yes. Better keep eating those hamburgers.

t. proud HAES supporter

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>>41712856
>tfw live in an agricultural third world shithole
>good food is cheap as dirt
>still live in a third world shithole, though

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IT'S NOT FAST ENOUGH

>>41714113
For me, i come to this thread to make sure i don't lose sight of my goal And i've lost 8 lbs in the past month

>tfw always had a taper and my wide hips are actually fat, my ribcage seems to be even wider than my hips so it give me the illusion of huge taper.

fuck everyone who says "skinny-fat" people should bulk, that shit will just make you fatter and have less testosterone due to the increased aromatization

>>41714273
do psmf if you have the discipline

>>41713147
I'm exactly where you were in the left pic including the love handles plus on the right is my goal body
>6'4 225lbs
What routine? How many kcal a day?

>>41714284
>fuck everyone who says "skinny-fat" people should bulk
no one has ever said this in the history of ever.

SKINNY FAT MUST ALWAYS CUT FIRST THEN BULK

i fucked up this morning, i forgot that it was scale day and i ate breakfast before weighing. Still lost 300g anyways.

>>41714294
WHAts that

>>41713197
damn brother same here. it took me 10 months.

>>41714113
motivation dude. people actually take the time to change themselves and in turn, inspire others. check the contest log.

>Dropped 180lbs
>Doing tons of cardio and weight training
>Shave my head because balding
>Everyone at work thinks I have cancer

If I can get pity fucks out of it i'm ok with it, when people ask me about my health I just say "I don't want to talk about it".

lost fat now my shirts look weird? my chest is bigger than my stomach and makes it look like it just drops down, is this supposed to be normal or what

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>>41714533
you sir are a king among men.

>>41714535
I have the same problem

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>>41713035
I ate some raisin bread.

>>41712864
no, that's Francis

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Carbs are the devil. If you eat carbs you will never make it.

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>>41714685
this is true
>had carbs last night
>woke up 1kg heavier
carbs - not even once

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>>41712809
>tfw everything is going well

>>41714685

eating 60% to 70% of my calories from carbs, you may want to reevaluate your diet.

>>41712809
>mfw ambitious about weight loss and dietary changes
>get home after work
>ahh long day one beer with low carb high protein meal before gym
>crack another cold one after eating
>ill go to the gym later batman vs superman is on tv
>1 and a half hours later, 5 cold ones deep
>shit i forgot i need to watch my carb intake
>whatever i have wiggle room ill work extra hard at gym tomorrow for the ladies
>vodka and water till passed out eating doritos
>wake up hung over for work the next day
>repeat
my week so far

time for fasting and all meat diets. 2kg of ground beef and 16 oz of vodka a day rip my liver

HELP
I've lost 30 lbs and my belly is constantly shrinking but yesterday I got a new stretch mark right above my pubes and it hurts with every fucking step
What do????

>>41713035
I haven't been to the gym in a month

>>41713197
why do clothes have to vary so much in size? i'm now an XL guy down from a 3XL yet i have a few L shirts that fit better than some of my XL's, heck i have an M button down shirt that almost fits, i'm probably like 5 or 6 lbs away.

i never knew this first world problem back when all my clothes were shower curtains

>>41713208
i feel like people fear water fasting way too much, you really shouldn't be afraid of anything as long as you're not doing more than 3 weeks or if you're just slightly overweight, just take your multivitamin and drink plenty of water and other supplements if you need to, like vitamin D or fish oil. Your body stores fat for a reason, it's pretty smart, hibernate a little bit.

>>41713191
>tfw Mickeydees had a Mcnuggets deal today, 20 for 1.99
>took a nap instead, then ate a tuna sandwich for dinner

I'm proud of myself

What's a good calisthenic plan?
Currently using the YAYOG APP workout plan but it's not working out so well.

>>41714535
>>41714660
same, could be either gyno or just the way we store fat, a doctor fondled my man breasts and told me i didn't have gyno, but that males who store fat around the breasts may be more prone to be low T so i might be able to do some cycles when in a few years when i start bulking, just keep losing that fat anons.

IF is hard as fuck when you work night shift 11-7 at a physical job. Ugh

>>41713035
>had 5 slices of garlic pepperoni pizza with some weird ass crust
fucked up bad, not gonna make it (if i keep this up)

Why are there so many people who start lifting and dieting at the same time?

Aren't trainers supposed to tell you that this doesn't work well?

>>41715159
Lol nigga what

>>41713169
only one way to find out. lose the weight

went about 24 hours between meals again. just had something to eat, feel like I ate too much again.
I hate myself for eating anything.

Well yesterday I didn't eat much, 1,200 calories. Today however, I did sorta fuck up. Muh mom brought some pizza from some church and I ate like 6-8 slices. Only reason why I am not hitting my head against a wall in shame is because they was pretty tiny slices. Maybe only like 1/3 the size of an "average slice" but still I am sad. Also I hate some taco salad, which in my family is more taco than actual salad.

Only good news is, these next few days I will be working outside for hours, so I'm hoping to burn off the shit I ate. As long as I don't eat tomorrow then I think I will be ok. I'm still disapointed in myself

>>41715256
not going to make it like that.

>>41714820
Gwen Puffani

I don't know about you anons but getting a food scale was one of the best things I ever did for myself. Accurate weighing of my food and consistent logs into MFP have helped me tremendously.

>>41715159
Ok first of all if you never lifted you will still get stronger even on a cut. Second if you're a guy you want to lift while cutting because other wise you will lose muscle and strength while on deficit, same for women but since they don't need muscles as much as men they can make the sacrifices to lose some muscle.
While lifting on a cut you wont get as many gains, although possible if you eat perfectly, but you won't lose muscle and become skinnyfat and then sceleton and it will take you much longer to get out of that

How many kgs could I possibly be gaining on a low cal/carb diet while lifting heavy for 3 months? I barely lost 7kg while on a 1k-1.5k daily deficit (depending on calculators) and I feel muscles under the fat but still, i doubt it could be more than 1kg or so. Lifts went from nothing to 130kg squat/dl , 70kg bench (i know :[ ) and 50kg ohp. I feel i should be losing much more than this, some days I even try to eat 1 meal of 1k calories and nothing else.

what gives?

>>41715401
But isn't it much more efficient to bulk up a bit first (on a normal fatty diet with some more prots) and then go on a cut? While still training ofc.

Sounds much easier to meet the cal. limit that way.

>>41715440
Depending on your goal.
What is stopping you from meeting your calories and lifting?

The BF measurement tool in the OP (US Navy formula) is terrible, outdated and should be replaced by a 3 point Jackson-Pollock calculator. Your neck's measurement has nothing to do with BF- according to Jackson-Pollock equation, I am 10% BF, but since I have a large and strong neck, OP's calc raises it to 14%. There is literally no correlation between neck size/BF.

>>41715445
Bad english, sry

I meant to stay below the cal. limit during a cut.
I was just talking about people who want to lose weight in general. I saw so many starting to go to the gym and cutting calories at the same time. And it almost never worked well for them.

>>41712954
dat 300 calorie banana

>>41715463
>>41715463
Yeah I understood what you meant the first time.
Look, I'm not an expert on this so I can't claim what is best and what isn't.
I have been lifting and cutting for almost 5 months and lost 14 kg so far and gained some strength, it's defiantly working for me.
How effective it has been is a different question maybe I would have lost fat quicker if I didn't lift and focused of cutting I don't know.
You also have to take in to account the people you talked to, how serious they are about cutting. A lot of people think they are eating on deficit but they're not.

>>41715322
but the less I eat the better
if I eat more I'd gain weight or not lose as muuch fat.

>>41713991
figure out your body type, mesomorph or ectomorph or endomorph then search for body transformations with that body type name included.

t. female mesomorph

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FUUUUUUCK I just weight myself and I've apparently gained 4kg how is this possible? what kind of witchcraft is this??

>>41715074
Either go to reddit's /r/bodyweightfitness and do their recommended routine, or try this guy's if that's too easy for you: http://antranik.org/bodyweight-training/

IS carbonated water alright on PSMF?

>>41715733
As long as it doesn't contain carbs/calories, sure, why wouldn't it be?

>>41713169
I remember there's website where you input your proportions and it'll show you a 3d figure of your body
but I can't recall its name

>>41715748
i've eaten nothing but chicken breast for the last 14 days, just want to be sure I don't fuck it up somehow but yeah was a dumb question

>>41715757
>i've eaten nothing but chicken breast for the last 14 days
that all? no veggies or anything??

>>41715849
just 800g chicken breast + 2 multivitamins and fish oil pills and creatine.
I've also been going to the gym 6 days/week and for some reason I am gaining strength. The fat loss is amazing, I can see changes every day. Planning on doing a maintenance week at day 42

I've started dieting (300-400 Cal deficit), and lifting 3 times a week 8 weeks ago. Although my progress has been slow, I'm seeing some improvements.

The problem the is, it's getting fucking hard to lift lately I end up my sessions much more tired then I used to. Is that partially related to the lack of carbs in my diet or what? How much harder would you say weightlifting on a cut is?

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I need a belt

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>>41713035
I ate one of these just now. Woke up and was craving for chicken so I ran out and got this. Didn't eat the rice, though. Only the chicken.

Also asked for the breast part only since there's a shitload of chicken skin on other parts.

>been about a month since starting diet/exercise
>pants aint as tight, less of a gut, generally feeling great
>check scale
>only dropped 3 lbs

well shit

>>41715971
Possible newbie muscle gains anon

>>41715956
Flipfriend?

>>41715956
looks rank
haven't eaten fast food in so long
except subway

>>41715977
>>41715997

Yes. Surprisingly enough I'm only starting out and I don't have the urge to eat any fast foods anymore. Although I don't usually eat veggies so I have to get start getting used to it.

Is subway acceptable if you're dieting, given that it still fits your daily caloric allowance? Mine is 1700/day.

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>>41715997
>haven't eaten fast food in so long
>except subway

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>>41716038
>>41716037

>>41713148
Why?

>>41713147
mirrin, same as >>41713166 That's the goal body. What calorie deficit did you eat while cutting?

>>41716067
So is it okay or not?

>>41715903
Too keep up your pants because you lost weight or to hang yourself?

>>41713147
jelly and mirin.
routine ?

>>41713306
jesus christ you are a fucking faggot mate

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>135 KG
>go down to 110 KG
>up to 130 KG again
>down to 110 again

I-I'm gonna make it this time.

>>41716085
No. If you want a sandwich get a girlfriend and have her make you one.

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>>41715696
how is this possible /fat/ what did I do wrong?
gone up 4kg in a day?? I know scales can be off but seriously...

>>41716140
misogynist tones like that will NOT be tolerated here

>tfw just got rejected
damn

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>>41716155
welcome to 4chan

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>>41716159
what happened bro?

>>41716166
>welcome to le edgy manosphere safe space

just fuck off

>>41716149
>haven't shat in a while
>had a lot of salt
>about to start your period

no sane person would worry about 4kg in a day, since for that to be fat you'd have to eat 28000 calories over your TDEE the day before

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>>41716181
Sounds like someone's been TRIGGERED

>>41716184
>haven't shat in a while
only went once this morning
>had a lot of salt
I don't add salt to foods unless I have to
>about to start your period
My penis tells me this isn't going to happen.

Regardless of it being fat or not it's still a massive shock to see it on my scales.

Maybe this is a sign that I should eat even less than I am now?

>>41716171
just talking with a long time friend for a month, seems interested, she comes to see me at work, end up going out, so I just decided to ask her straight up & cut the games, but apparently she's not interested.

It hurts but i'd rather find out now then later down the line.

>>41716204
It's a sign to buy a new scale or stop being a retard

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>>41716206
Sorry to hear anon. Here's a random pic from a folder of tinder profile screenshots to make you feel better.

>>41716215
>post on 4chan
>stop being a retard
pick one anon.
scale is an old school one not digital and I don't have money to buy a new one, and even if I broke this one my parents wouldn't replace it. (yes I'm a fatty who still lives at home)

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>>41716155
>misogynist tones like that will NOT be tolerated here

nigga /fit/ is 99.99% Pure Ghey Protein™, what in the world are you on about

did you go to one of those colleges that tell you gays care about "womyn" or something?

>>41716135
How the fuck do you go down 25kg and give up and start eating again? How weak willed are you? You better make it this time or it's hopeless for you

>>41716316

Depression and masters thesis.

>>41713035
I had a kfc zinger stacker burger and a candy bar today.
Day 10 of quitting energy drinks and soda, body craving sugar something fierce.

>>41712899
just remember that protein calories are not the same as fat and carb calories. you literally can't metabolize most amino acids for energy.

>>41713050
if only there wasn't a bagel in there you would have been fine...

>no poo for a long time
>massive shits two days in a row
Wonder if that was all the cabbage I ate or how many vegetables I ate. I would guess I ate like 2kg of vegetables over the past 3 days.

Day 5 of 30:
lost a kilogram so far. down to 107 from 108. probably mostly water weight at this point.

managed to run 5k and train for an hour on the heavy bag.

i feel like i have more energy when i eat a full meal. wonder if its worth the tradeoff of dem calories tho

>>41713035
I ate at McDonals, ate marzipan and skipped training yesterday.
I ate a veggieburger and 3 little mazipans in total that day, about 1000kcal for that day.
I doubbled my trainig today (60km cycling) and only has breakfast this far (2pm).

>>41716386
how have you only lost 1kg in 5 days? I was down 3 by the 5 day mark and all I did was diet and a 20 minute walk every day.

>>41716386
>Day 5 of 30
Not going to make it, and I'm not even memeing.

Diet plans are normie click/sell bait. You need to change your life style permanently. Radically at first to lose fat and then adjust for maintenance.

>>41716386
>run 5km
That is nothing, fat burning starts after about 40minutes.
Get a bike and start with a slow pace like 15km/h and keep it for at least one hour, better two per day.

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post your breakfast /fat/

>>41716428
>fat burning starts after about 40minutes
Another victim of buzzfeed-tier articles.
Most effective cardio for losing fat is HIIT and you can be done with it in less than 10min

>>41716413
dunno.
probably eating too much. but if i dont eat i dont exercse hard enough. want to minimise muscle loss.

>>41716415
i have 30 days to get under 100 before i switch to a maintenance plan.

>>41716428
no.. intense exercise trumps endurance due to post exercise increase O2 consumption.
plus ive tried both in the past and this way is definately better. i push myself harder.
plus its making my calves and thighs bigger, so im not complaining.

i average a heart rate of about 145-160 during. so its a good pace

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Been doing losing weight for 3 weeks now with a 1600 calorie limit, can't notice anything myself but my grandma said i she could notice that i'm a bit slimmer, can i take her word for it guys or is it just to help motivate me?

>>41716437
Nothing is more effective than riding a bike close to your FTP for hours.

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good job fatties you-re making it! Disregard the faggots telling you otherwise, 1kg in 5 days is great, and failing and trying again is part of the process, you won-t fall again this time my thesis friendo
push through!

>>41716452

Anon, old people don't lie to you about these things.

>>41716451
We´ll see it in the friday weight in...

>>41716459
Oh, thanks anon!

>>41716432
what's the white goop?

>>41716451
eat less it's easy to build muscle once you're not a fat fuck.

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>>41716432
Banana+Protein shake
Blueberries
Apple

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>>41716432

>>41713267
Somebody reply to this guy, hes a hard working bloke

>>41716483
>Protein shake
Why are taking protein shake if you're in /fat/?

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250kcal/100gr

Kill me. I could eat an entire kg of them.

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>tfw when lost 5.6kg (11 pounds) in 3.5 weeks (since I started this journey)
>tfw initial weight was 63.4 kg (139 pounds) and am now no longer considered overweight, and down to "healthy'' BMI at 57.8 kg (125.6 pounds).
>tfw goal weight of 50 kg (110.2 pounds) is in 7.8 kilos (15.4 pounds)
>judging by my progress, I have lost 233g of weight per day since starting, and if I continue adjusting to the variables of my stats as I go along on a similar pattern, I should arrive at goal weight in 25 days, which would equate the total weight lost of 13.4 kg lost in 49 days. I know however that realistically it'll be very difficult to extrapolate this much, and am aiming more so for another two months of progress before achieving goal.

You guys have no idea what it's like to start off with a meagre TDEE of 1680cals a day and apply to it consistently a 500-800 cals deficit. Not to mention having to recalculate TDEE ever so often because the margins are so small I might go over if I lose too fast and don't recalculate.
I honestly eat around 800 cals a day these days, which would explain how at such low weight I was able to drop such weight so fast, in addition to doing Keto and IF, as well as have done some questionable things like juice fasting for two days. By the time I'm at my goal weight, I'll maintain at 1500 though which is sustainable.

>mfw reversing two years of medically influenced weight gain and turning my life around

Once I reach my goal weight I'll start lifting heavy. I would start now but I am going on holidays abroad and the gym is really expensive in my country so I don't want to lose money enrolling now, when I can do bodyweight workouts and HIIT cardio at home.

Post your progress stories and feels, good and bad.

>>41716432
Too late, it is already afternoon here.
But it was 2x pic related.

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>>41716507
forgot pic

>>41713267
Be sure to drink enough water
>Construction work
You might want to have some regular snacks during the day. You actually need energy to be productive in that field

>>41716494
The 2 things aren't mutually exclusive

>>41713267
my boyfriend works a physical labor job, and from what he tells me, he eats a lot of protein and carbs during his breaks : tuna can, rice and beans.
He's also overweight, but more like a built fat type from all the work he does.
Be strong anon, you'll make it. I appreciate the work you do!

>tfw new biceps, belly and forearm vein appears
soon I'll reach my goal and look like a walking dick if the the fat on my delts go away, I can see the blue contour of the veins under the fat so it must be getting close to popping out?

it's fine to eat a little bit more on gym days, right?

>>41716666
yes. ignore the morons saying you shouldnt lift while cutting. you can make a lot of progress especially if you have never lifted before.

>>41715696
hint: it starts with a c and ends with a arbohyrates

>>41715956
>skips the rice
>eats the fried batter surrounding the chicken

>>41716149
Mostly water and food.

4kg is a bit much but I i'm usually 3-4lbs heavier when I go to bed than I was when I woke up.

>>41716499
I did, and it wasn't that bad
not so sure I could stick to it forever right now, but it's been almost a year

>mums asked me why I'm losing weight
>she asked how I did it
>she's started buying foods I buy
>she's got the elliptical out of the attic
i really want her to succeed, but odds are she won't

>>41716686
You may be onto something.
I had a couple of wraps last night (and tonight as well) first carbs I've had in about a week.

Thing is that's all I've eaten yesterday and today. I've only had water to drink as well.

>>41716758
don't just let her straight copy you, educate her! help her succeed

The sticky doesn't really explain how to incorporate vegetables in your diet, it just nonstop emphasizes protein

>>41716791
I've tried that, she thinks I have a secret
I tell her it's diet and exercise, she doesn't want to hear it

she'll eat healthy(ish) stuff, on top of the crap she eats already
and she'll grossly overestimate how many calories 30 minutes on the elliptical will burn

>>41716809
>get vegetables
>warm them up
>put them in your mouth
>chew
>swallow
glad to help

>>41713147
natty? routine? diet?

>>41716819
>warm them up
I think you mixed that up with steps for shoving vegetables in your rectum

>>41713035
Ate 20g hard cheese and 1 zero sip.
This was all I had.
I somehow gained 1kg from sunday to today and was thinking of keeping under 500kcal the rest of the week because of that

>>41716833
I'm not aware of any benefits of plugging carrots
but you do you

>>41716499
>You guys have no idea what it's like to start off with a meagre TDEE of 1680cals a day
I kind of do, my BMR is 1538kcal and I try to stay at 1000kcal defficit.
>I honestly eat around 800 cals a day
So do I.

>>41716869
800 is plenty 2bh
>morning: packet of chicken and babybel, 100kcal
>dinner: cheese on toast, 200kcal
>tea: chicken + rice, 350kcal
>snack: cereal bar, 150kcal
don't see a reason to raise it, it'll only slow things down

>be fat fuck (125kg)
>go to gym but don't lose weight
>think it's impossible for me to lose any and just don't bother trying to diet
>go to /fit/
>see /fat/
>check the links
>"HOLY SHIT MY TDEE IS FUCKING HIGH WTF AM I EATING I COULD LOSE 2 KG A WEEK"
>3 weeks pass by
>weigh 118kg
Thanks /fat/.

>>41716936
Good job anon, keep at it! What's your goal?

>>41713960
Caloric restriction is the only unequivocally scientifically proven method of increasing longevity.

>>41716944
Thank you very much anon. My target for now is 80kg, which is still 38kg away but when I'm obsessed with something, I never give up. Ate just 3 brezels yesterday and my stomach couldn't handle it, something which has never happened before.

>09/16
>2,911
>06/17
>1,938
holy fucking shitballs, I've chopped 1,000kcal off my tdee since september
that's insane
and sorta counter productive

If I'm about to start losing weight should I consult a GP and get a physical and some general advice? Consultations are free where I live so no worry about that. Just wondering how much it would help.

>>41713960
unhealthy is a hell of a broad term
missing out on nutrients only becomes an issue long term when your body has completely depleted it's supplies, and your current diet doesn't include any whatsoever
so unless all of your calories come from exactly the same food (and if that's your diet then you have bigger issues than weight), then you should be okay

>>41716968
it can't hurt.
I'm going to see my GP tomorrow so going to mention that I'm trying to lose weight and see what they say. might also get a good weight in and body fat calculation done too.

>>41716930
>800kcal is plenty
I stay under that most of the time and ride my bike at least 30km per day.
For example: I ate 2 buns with cheese today in total and won´t eat anything else the rest of the day.
I cycled 56km today uphill against the wind.
Sadly the battery of my phone died, but I assume that I burned at least 1000kcal, leaving me at a deficite of 1846+1000-800= 2046kcal.
I kind of exceeded my goal, so maybe I can drink a small protein shake.

>>41716968
they'll only tell you what you can read here
the benefit is they can possibly tailor it to your lifestyle for you

that's what dieticians get paid for, they just relay the information but try to find easier ways of incorporating it into your specific routine

My mom bought a cinnamon roll from Au bon pain. Apparently it's 550 calories so I'm planning to cut it in half for breakfast for two days respectively. My thing is that I'm not really sure if it's 550 cals. Do you think I'm good? I usually eat like around 200 call for breakfast regardless

>>41717006
don't eat it.

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>tfw plateau after 13 fucking pounds
>and I'm in my fucking 230s
>measure everything I eat (measuring cups/spoons + food scale), always overestimating and rounding up
>eat 900-1000 calories per day, maybe go over once or twice a week by 100-200 calories (i'm grill)
>exercise 5-6 days a week
>if I'm lucky, the scale goes down by .1 or .2 in the morning (or stays the same for days), but nowhere near the 2 lbs per week I'm aiming for with my huge cut
>the only way I'm counting wrong is if MFP is wrong

I don't give a fuck what anyone says, my body LIKES being heavy. I'm trying so hard to force my body to be better at this but this is fucking discouraging. I want to lose 2 lbs a week damn it FUCK. Will try low-carb dieting the next few weeks although I don't have much money for food until next week.

Been looking at muffins
I used to eat them by the box, but now when I see them they look a bit dry and flavourless
I mean if I'm going to spend my calories on a muffin, it would have to be a really fucking good, gourmet muffin.

>>41717006
Do it

>>41717015
Might just give it to my brother. Like I'm starting to feel bad lol. My mom comes back with so much food and I've been saying no for 2 months. I finally hit 188 pounds after starting from 250 and am only 20 to 28 pounds away from my goal weight so I can't afford to fuck around atmosphere. It's a sad situation but yeah probably not going to eat it. Don't like gambling with the caloric content of store bought shit

>>41717016
Do all that and also intermittent fasting

I had also similar problem and that got me through it

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>>41717059
I already IF, but I've been trying to get by without keto to keep things easy, but who am I kidding? Weight loss will never be easy.

Hope to see much better results after this.

>>41717085
How about reducing your caloric intaker by 30%?

>tfw feel light weight while doing pull ups almost

I think I'm going to start doing weighted pull ups.

183 cm
102 Kg January 2016

81 Kg weighted in today.

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So if my TDEE is 2600 and my goal is to lose 2lbs every week then my ceiling should be at 1500 calories per day right?

>>41717134
Just dreamer bulk hard. Speaking from experience, every rep feels like death when you're 105kg. Cranking out a 10 rep set is agony.

>>41717134
a month ago I couldn't do one push up
now with nothing but weight loss I can do 5
losing those pounds made it so much easier

god I just want to be able to run and climb over anything with ease
not like those parkour fags, but like a wood elf or something

>>41717161
ye

>>41717169
What is dreamer bulk? I start doing pull ups at about 250, I just got under 200 and I'm doing 2x10 sets, and then doing a few more to failure.

Do carbs make you retain water? I've only been counting calories and haven't paid much attention to macros. But I notice whenever I have bread, my weight stalls.

>>41717109
You mean eat 700 calories a day?

>>41717250
I do pretty much the same.

how do I fucking stay on my chair now that stupid bone on my ass makes it so uncomfortable and I still have 10lbs until I am shredded

>>41717276
It will be like this for a few days, you won´t feel it anymore soon.
-t 128lbs and dropping

>>41717276
>not squatting ass to grass

>>41713035
Actually been a good day, skipped breakfast and eat a small lunch, gonna see if i can make it past dinner without over eating.
>inb4 blog post

>>41717230
Every gram of glucose comes attached with 4 grams of water. There's a reason bodybuilders carb-deplete before a contest.

>>41713091
fuck yea

>>41717274
How much do you weigh though? I'd hate to put myself in a place where I'm prone to binging :/

>>41717315
I'm done with carbs.

>>41717326
lol right?

>>41717323
128lbs at this point.
>inb4 not even fat

>>41717335
Fat or not, you are literally over 100 lbs less than me lol I'd be a skelly at that number.

>fancy something specific
>apple turnover
>buy pack of 5
>eat one
>throw rest away
need to stop doing that

>>41717348
Maybe, but I cycle 30km/day to loose weight.

>>41717348
everyone underestimates how fat he is on his first cut, I am learning that now the hard way. I am 5'7 and thought that i'd be shredded by 170

>>41717356
Better than buying a pack of 5 and eating 5. As long as you budget it into your calories for the day, it's fine. The only strain is on your wallet.

>>41716135
You look thicc anon

>>41717085
try keto.

>>41717387
it's probably cheaper to buy 5 than to buy 1 from the fresh section
I do that with all sorts, why can't they just sell little amounts?

>>41717400
Because the margins would suck and you they would have a lot more to throw out as waste.

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>>41716181
Did you forget that this website is called 4chan or something?

>>41717422
Haha 4chan xD

>>41717412
better them than me

>>41716494
When you can't meet your daily protein macros

>>41717381
well I'm not a white girl so, I would look like a skelly sub 130 lbs

>>41717399
definitely will

How do I know if I´m in keto?

>>41713035
Had two slices of a medium pizza.

The pizzeria claims it's only 150kcal per slice, c-could it be true?

>>41715455
if you don't have a freakishly weird body, which it sounds like you do, the navy formula is fine for most people. Just because it doesn't work for a freak like you doesn't mean it should be made unavailable for normal people.

my piss is crystal clear. is this a good sign or am I drinking too much water?

>>41717519
No.

>>41716135

DUDE, lift hard and heavy and become bearmode.

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>>41717519
Describe pizza. A priori anon I think you got cucked, but let's see the contents.

>>41717543
That is a bit too much.

>>41717543
I believe ideal piss color is a very pale yellow but clear isn't bad. You're just real hydrated.

>>41717559
capricciosa on extra thin crust, each slice slightly smaller than my midget babby hand (~15cm x 8cm)

>>41715751
A website that visualizes bodies, what could its name be... maybe bodyvisualizer.com?

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>>41717587
what exactly were the toppings, sauce included?

>>41712954
>Dillons
Where do you live, m8?

>>41713960
One guy went on a 384 days long medically supervised fast, during which he only consumed vitamins and other essential shit, so the answer is probably no if you don't eat shitty food with 0 vitamins. I would be more worried about muscle loss though, make sure you consume enough preoteins (at least three).

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>started at 105kg
>eating 1,500kcal a day
>weight myself yesterday
>97,5kg
>Noice.jpeg
>find out i actually lost 3kg of muscle mass
>fugg
>turns out my maintenance is at 2900kcal and not 2000kcal
>been at a 1400kcal deficit instead of a 500kcal deficit
>losing muscle everywhere but not losing fat

Lads I fucked up

>>41717642
tomato sauce, mozarella cheese, baked ham, tomato, white mushroom

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>>41717669
time to build muscle mass, anon. Are you working out or not? If so, increase protein and caloric intake, carbs before workout, protein after.

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>>41717685
I would say a proportionate slice of cappriciosa with those toppings, and I am picturing an italian style one, not an american one, should be around 150 cals.

>>41716428
>use up about 400 kcals of energy to run 5 kilometres
>body decides to make up for it by magically creating calories out of thin air because you ran for less than 40 minutes
I didn't know losing weight would be this hard.

>>41716073
because calories burned through workouts are always overestimated. If I do 60 mins on elliptical estimates range from 500 to 1000 calories burned. When in reality I burned like 400 calories. So you most people then go and eat that however many calories burned that their fitbit or whatever tells them and dont lose weight.

They could be on a 500 cal deficit. Think they burned 1000 cal but really burned 500. They eat the 1000 cal back which eats up their deficit and then they complain they havent lost weight.

>>41717518
your piss turns purple
...or something

>>41717830
thank you anon

>>41717847
It first uses up the carbon hydrates you ate before instead of fat, wich makes you hungry earlier.
If you eat the same you are correct.

>>41713035
Last night I drank about 2lt of chocolate milk + bread, shit's my weak spot

11am

just ate an apple

still fucking hungry

>>41717914
>choccy milk

iktfb

I can only buy it a pint at a time, or I go to town.

It's a delicacy for me now, and I get that Nesquick protein choccy now

>>41717881
>If you eat the same you are correct.
That's pretty much a given for anyone who's trying to lose weight.

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>>41717914

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>>41717914
>>41717942
Around halfway through the box I just fuck it and go all way, usually accompanied by 3-4 pieces of egg bread

It's followed by pure guilt and hatred for whoever invented such an unhealthy and delicious beverage

>>41718015
>1%
ew

wouldn't even drink at all.

New thread

>>41718048

stay mad :^)

>>41718052
fuck off

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>>41713035
I have nothing to confess. I haven't cheated in about two weeks.

>>41717016

I believe you, anon.

>1200 cals per day
>workout 5 times a week
>cardio and lifting
>record everything
>lost 6lbs in four months of solid workout and healthy eating
>inches lost but very little weight
>want to give up

It's shitty but you just have to keep on. You cannot defy physics forever and if you don't stick at it, you'll never know whether you're truly fucked or not.

I did low carb (which coincidentally was when I dropped the weight in a week) but the diet didn't agree with me. I became horribly depressed and angry all the time. It might work for you though. I just don't think it's something I could do long term which is kind of what I'm looking for - a liftstyle change.

>>41715751
symmetric strength?

>>41712856
It's not about eating more you fat cunt