/fat/ "suns out but no guns" edition

>>41650231
I love my recumbent bike since there is no excuse to not exercise. I bike everyday and now it's getting easier that I'm looking at harder exercises

>tfw 2 years of trying to diet but caved to my cravings the first day because I was a subhuman piece of shit
>5th day into diet and haven't had any thoughts of caving

I suppose I should feel good about it, the longer I go the happier I feel about it.

>>41650679
you are going to make it, anon.

you lads and lassies, I've become addicted to watching bodybuilders and weight lifters videos on youtube on diet, exercise, motivation, and I follow fitness girls and fitness men on instagram and am learning so much but also drawing so much inspiration from them and motivation to keep going. It's like building this mental cocoon of positive reinforcement on everything health and fitness related until you finally adopt the mindset, live by it, and become it. Anyone else doing the same thing?

I wish I had some kind of panic button or easy place to post to whenever I'm craving bad shit like a retard. GameFAQs CE is the board I go to most but 90% of the people there are also fat fucks so nobody cares

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>>41650645
I've got 580 cals left for today.
I'm thinking about ordering this pizza.
I can have four slices of thin crust.
Does anyone know how big the slices are? Are they cut into those shit little squares when you get thin crust?

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>>41650709
ive started to watch more workout and diet related channels more often when i started losing weight
mostly to get motivation so i dont fuck up again

>>41650645
>keto for 4 weeks
>lost 10 lbs
>keto + 500 cal deficit + IF
>lost another 10 lbs
>keto + 750 cal deficit + IF
>lost another 5 lbs but stall

What do i do now brahs? I need 15-20 more lbs to lose.

>>41650709
I like going to progresspics on leddit because I see people who have made it and makes me believe that I can make it too

>>41650725
By default they'll party cut their thin crust, but they might be willing to do a normal 8-cut if you ask.

I just tried to weigh myself and my scales broke

Hey /fat/ so I have been fat for a long time and it has really hampered my social and sexual life. But we had a friend's birthday and I ended up going. It was at a gay club and I found out that gay fat guys are called bears and they get a lot of action. I was being hit on left and right. And all the fat guys seemed like they were so happy with themselves dancing without shirts. Should I stop dieting and hating myself and forget about girls or having sex with them and just live life as a happy gay bear?

>>41650679
That's basically why I got one. I've found myself putting off cardio because it's too hot outside (which is fair because fuck the south), so this is the best solution.

>>41650709
I do the same thing, anon. I don't even pay attention naysayers around me anymore because I'm actually enjoying life now.

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>>41650722
not gonna lie, whenever I get hungry or "bored hungry", I put on a documentary or show about obesity and it calms me the fuck down for real.

>>41650742
Try eating at maintenance for a week or two or go for a 1k deficit

>>41650742
Up cal intake to your new maintenance for 4-7 days, then go back to 500 cal deficit

>>41650766

you can't just make yourself gay because you want to be you fucking tard

>>41650766
I guess your answer depends on whether you like penis more than vag

Two bowls of apple jacks this morning + hot pocket. Took a two hour nap, woke up and just ate two tuna sandwhiches. I'm still hungry, gonna go have a fat bowl of raisin bran.

>>41650782
just spend some time in trap threads on 4chan, acquired faggotry guaranteed

>>41650742
So with keto you lose your glycogen and the water that is associated with it. That is about 5lb of weight. You didn't actually lose that weight though, because it is not like losing fat. Instead when you get off of keto you are going to gain that back as a healthy person will always have that 5lb of glycogen and water.

So really you lost like 20lb instead of 25lb which means the stall isn't as bad as you think. Keep at it and you will continue to lose.

>>41650769
I'm from Louisiana so I get you. I get tired after work to work out so I get to go home, chill for a little and then hop on my bike. I don't have that excuse of being lazy to go to the gym

>>41650772
seconding this. I am on 600 deficit keto and I've yet to encounter a stall, but if I were too, I'd go as much as 800 maybe then refeed, or carb load for a week on 100g then get back in ketosis, and go down progressively on deficit.

>>41650798
Maybe you are not getting full because you are not eating very well. Seriously I could eat a whole pizza and not get full because pizza is crap for my body but taste great.

Try eating a balanced meal, then waiting 20 minutes. If you are still hungry try a snack.

>>41650798
>all dat sugar
>all dem carbs
I realize this is probably bait but PLEASE eat some goddamn protein and fiber.

>>41650782
I don't even have to have gay sex but I would love to be happy with the way I look and get hit on all the time and have other people that think I am not a disgusting piece of shit.

>>41650867

THEN LOSE THE WEIGHT FATASS

>haven't eaten any processed foods, animal products or added salt, oil or sugar for 53 days
>gone from a bmi of 26 to 21
Fuck calorie counting. Restrictive dieting is the way to go.

>>41650926
>saturated fat is bad for you LAWL
when will this meme end?

>>41650926
same anon, I've ditched processed foods, animal products and sugar for maybe one week now, and I am fine. Vegan and Keto too.

>>41650933
>instantly getting defensive even though I didn't say anything about any food groups being bad for you
Sasuga ketard

>>41650939
can't tell if serious

what do you eat?

Vegan here. I'm pretty miserable. Good news is I only had to spend $300 last week on food and vitamins! They had a sale.

fat fucks

>>41650926
That's about it. You also eat less without having to pay attention to it.
Calorie counting will be useful when you want to cut below like 15%, until then, you want to get used to eating healthy foods, to be able to maintain your weight once you reach your short-term goal.
Eating less junk food is only going to result in yo-yoing.

>>41650955
vegetables, cruciferous plants, legumes, beans, nuts, seeds, oils and berries. I am not even kidding, check out raw vegan bobby's perspective on keto as a raw vegan here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab_S0O--QFU

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>>41650981
300$ A FUCKING WEEK!?

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>>41650766
>happy gay bear

>>41650933
When human physiology changes.

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>tfw sick
>tfw cant go to the gym today

1,200kcal here we go....

>Keto
>KETURDS
FUCKING RETARDS.
IT DOESN'T.
FUCKING.
WORK.
IT'S RETARD BRO""SCIENCE"".
YOU WILL FUCKING DIE FROM HEART ATTACK, YOU RETARD FATTY.

>>41650993
Wtf
Do you really mean literally all carbs including starch, or just refined carbs? How many berries do you eat?

>>41651073

please kill yourself

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>>41651073
shhhh dont tell em this is funny read

>>41651094
>>41651096
FUCK YOU RETARDS.
YOU ***WILL*** DIE BACONLARDIES.

>>41651108

ok professor

Has anyone else drastically reduced their money spent on food? I barely spend 100€ on food nowadays where i used to spend 250€ before.

>>41651123
Yeah, not only is bad food really bad but also rather expensive.

>>41651084
including starch my friend. I usually eat about a third of one cup of raspberries (about ten) with a meal once a day or about one cup of strawberries which are approx 14 and 11 gram carbs, and it'll be all for the day.

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>>41650981
300$ ON SALE?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A WEEK?!

>>41651123
Cutting out fast food out of my budget and diet I barely even spend a quarter of what i did before.

>>41651152
Whatever works for you I guess.

>>41651114
>>41651094

he's not completely wrong, though, saying it like that it's stupid

>>41651060
Multiple studies have shown ZERO correlation between saturated fat and heart disease.

>>41651182
Wanna know how I know you never read those studies yourself?

>>41650981

nice bait.

Vegan here, I spend no more than 80€/month

>>41651182
And even more multiple studies have shown LARGE correlation between saturated fat and heart disease.

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>tfw nowhere to buy Skyr

>>41651174
well she'd have to keep it under 20 a day so maybe she has another equivalent meal in carbs and then a meal with none at all? I am keto vegan and I have meals with exclusively fat and protein, no carbs or traces.

>>41651211
vegan here too, seconding this. produce is cheap where I live anyway, could be that you guys aren't supplied well if you pay more than a hundred at most per month.

>>41651239
>>41651211
>giving (You)s to obvious samefagging low quality bait post
For what purpose

>>41651216
Show me those studies. I'd like to see them.

>>41650981
I spend $350 a month on my family of four

>>41651239
I read her picture wrong. I though it was 33g carbs

>>41651282
>>41651266

Idiots who only follow CICO and dont believe in keto are hilarious.

I mean are you really just gonna let this guy>>41650725 order fucking pizza because he has calories left? lmao

>>41651289
it's fine anon, you didnt mean ill intent. In fact you care so much for this girl and her health you are trying to shift her from her previous ways. Support her in trying, but someone that doesn't want help can't be helped as we say in my country. Just let her figure it all out herself.

>fit in to a medium at 210lbs
What the fuck

>>41651123
I'm not sure. But now that I think of it, I'm gonna save all my receipts from the grocery store this month and take a look at the end to see what I'm spending and where waste could be cut out.

>>41651313
That's because calories in vs calories out is scientifically proven and keto is a meme

>>41651123
Yes. I used to spend 150-200 and now I get by with less than 100 because of the meals being super simple

>>41651280
Here's one that's recent, do your own research.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2016/12/19/saturated-fat-regardless-of-type-found-linked-with-increased-heart-disease-risk/

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>>41651323
>be slightly overweight femanon with about 30 pounds to lose
> buy clothes from aliexpress
> have to order a chinese large (size 8)
> about two years ago I would fit in a size 4

I'm going back there anons and anonettes. I swear to god.

>>41651359

Thermodynamics are a thing, but man you really need to look into this shit. Gary Taubes is a good place to start.

Keto is "too good to be true" for a lot of people still. They've been told all their life that saturated fat is going to cause heart disease, too much cholesterol will clog their arteries, and carbohydrates are essential for energy and a healthy diet.

>>41651380
You better

>>41651313

you can't get fat if you don't surpass your calories expense for the day, no matter what you eat, it is healthy? probably not.
Diet is determinant when you're bulking or maintaining, but while cutting you could eat shit under your calories and lose weight anyway.

Daily reminder that these threads are terrible and none of you are going to make it.

>>41651433
No one is denying that, try all you want but you will never hate me more than I do.

>>41651359
>scientifically proven

to reduce lean mass, produce ghrelin, damage the metabolism, and have a <1% rate of long term success.

>>41651392
>saturated fats give you heart disease
>flooding your body with carbs gives you diabeetus
>combining the two makes both worse
Why don't people just limit their carbs and fats - notice I say limit, not eliminate/drastically reduce - and get most of their calories from lean protein? Like why hasn't some schmuck written a book advocating this and made a million dollars yet? Then again fatty boom boom won't stick to a diet like this, it's either the virtue signalling diet (look at me everyone I'm eating healthy whole grains and boiled chicken breast with organic veggies!) or keto, the laziest fucking "diet" in the world (hurr durr stuff your face with bacon to lose weight).

>>41651433
True for most threads on /fit/.

>>41651479
You're worried about diabetes and heart disease, but not cancer?

>>41651376
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0113605
For every article you can pull out, I can pull one out that supports a low carb, high fat diet. Here's one that suggests that a high carb diet leads to higher risk for heart disease

>>41650782
>implying gay isn't a choice

>>41651479
Why not just give into the true redpill of waterfast and protein shakes?

Why can't everyone just make up their minds on nutrition. I don't know who to believe, damn it.

>>41651417
I am 165 cm, or 5'4. I know some chinese sellers overestimate sizes because chinese women are so petite and small, so it definitely could be because I am smaller in height that I can fit in L and not XL for sure.

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>>41651513
>Funding: This work was funded by a grant from Dairy Research Institute, The Beef Checkoff, the Egg Nutrition Center, and the Robert C. And Veronica Atkins Foundation.

>>41651542
Just eat your veggies and cut out the processed crap fatty. Scientists are still debating about everything else but they've pretty much all come to an agreement that the average westerner does not nearly eat enough vegetables.

>>41651552
So? Does that mean the statistical results are invalid? Of course the Beef Checkoff, Egg Nutrition Center, and Atkins Foundation is interested in funding these sorts of studies.

>>41651591
Uuhhh yes sweety?

>>41651542

no refined shit.
lift and cardio.
go and do it.

>>41651605
>>41651552
/pol/tard detected

>>41651591
Can't tell if you're serious but it could mean exactly that, which is why people are retarded for reading nothing except the results and the abstracts.

>>41650725
>10:16am
fucking pathetic

>>41651652
I'm planning for dinner you twat.
I only eat 800 cals q day at this point and want to indulge in some fucking pizza

>>41651690
m e t a b o l i c d a m a g e

>>41651690
They don't cut them up in squares, do cut them in regular triangles. I would be cautious desu but if you want pizza, you've got the calories to spare

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How did May go for you, /fit/?

>>41651690
That's kinda like if you were dehydrated and thirsty as fuck, and instead of a fine glass os spring water you choose to drink from a poodle of dirty water with dog piss in it.
If you're gonna eat only a small amount of foos everyday, you should keep it as clean as possible. Be mentally strong, you don't need that pizza

Just joined a gym, Going in the morning. Anyone fatso's have some first day tips

>>41651812
if you see a pretty woman, ask if she's exercising

>>41651792

started back after a full year, need to drop the last 40lb

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>>41651829

>>41651706
lolwut

Hey guys. I work late on Friday but I'll be home that evening and can get all the metrics for the contest done. Remember that the window ends at 11:59 pm CST for weigh-ins.

If you miss weigh in you lose in your matchup for the tournament bracket so keep that in mind. Also a few of you from week 3 are on notice. If you miss your weigh in you're out and I will be able to fill your slot.

Anyone new who joins can't participate in this month's tournament but if you're diligent and stick around you're in for July. I'm thinking about sweetening the deal then and maybe doing an Amazon e gift card to the winner but I'd require a scale picture then. We'll see.

See you guys Friday night. Happy cutting.

>>41651864
What time do u think you'd be on here tmrw

>>41651864
WAIT, it's a monthly tournament now? Who am I against?

>>41651864
11pm tonight or friday? i assume friday

>>41651880
7 or 8 pm CST.

>>41651903
It's both. Check page 2 on the document.

>>41651906
You assume correct.

>national donut day
>Bosses bring I'm free donuts

Save me

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>be me
>be 6 foot 3
>have solid 7 face
>be fatty and look like shit anyways
>do /fat/ for 2 months
>start looking sexier
>have girls around you start flirting and getting more obvious with progression
>be massive sperg
>respond to flirting with awkward silences and by looking retarded
thanks /fat/, dicks.

>>41651944
surprise junk food is annoying, but if you can fit it under a calorie limit with planning it stops being a temptation when you just see it.

>>41651812
Go easy your first week or two, I don't know if you suffer from anxiety, but I did/do, and it took a while to feel comfortable at the gym but the reality is noone will even notice you (unless you are really fat in which case 99% of people will think good on you or if you're really good looking or something).

I go mornings too, around 9am, it's very quiet then as all the normies have left the gym to go to work.

>>41651920
Got a link? I'm not on my PC

>>41650725
Just cook a regular meal faggot.

I gained around 20kg in a year since quitting my job. Good thing that I was senior-fit and will turn the fat into muscle. Soon...

Do any of you have partners that are also fat?

Before I met my current gf, I used to be fairly active at around 180lb at 18-20% body fat. After meeting my gf, we both put on about 40lb each through relentless bad eating habits together. Now I'm trying to get fit again but she doesn't seem so keen to sort out her diet. She went from slightly chubby to actual obese in a matter of years and I want her to lose weight with me.

>>41651829
I thought it would be funny

>>41652081
Not worth it. If she doesn't want to she won't.
Move on.

>>41652081
yeah, my missus was much thinner when we met, but we've also had 2 kids so i give her a pass for that, i've tried to encourage her to come to the gym but she has zero interest and seeing i can't do it for her i've just accepted it

>>41651812
Do a lot of machines

>>41651706
I'm under 5ft and sedentary 800cals isn't going to kill me

>>41652155
Don't give up mane

You got a duty to your lady to try and keep her healthy too

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>>41652185
>womanlet

>>41651799
To be at a full 500 cal deficit I eat 1000 calories a day. An extra 200 cal deficit isn't going to kill me

King of manlets here

>>41652172
can you go more indepth?

>>41652172
dont use machines, they're useless

>>41652186
it's hard man, i dont really love her anymore either but she's a good mum and i love my kids so i won't ever leave, it's not like i hate her or anything, just prior to kids your world revolves around each other and after kids all that goes down the shitter because the kids become the focus, i thought her coming to the gym would reconnect us but she has zero interest so that's that

>>41652155

Having kids is understandable since you are forced into to a must slower lifestyle. My gf currently isn't but will want those things probably in the next 3-4 years.

I'm concerned not only for her own health but also the health if I ever have a kid. Fat parent generally have fat kids which I don't want.

>>41652081
Who's doing the cooking or are you guys still eating out?

>>41652155
My bf and I have two kids together
I was 93lbs when I first got pregnant (4'10)
Racked up 60+lbs
Got down to 128lbs after my oldests first year and me being lazy and not caring because my body was wrecked anyway (loose skin on stomach, stretch marks)

Once I hit 128, got pregnant with second

Gave birth 4 months ago on the 18th, and have already gotten down to 122lbs.

Smallest I've been in years. Still 20lbs to go though

Don't let your women use getting pregnant and having kids as an excuse to be lazy

>>41651990
Sure don't. I'm on my cellphone.

>>41652081
Yes. You cannot push her to do anything she doesn't want to do. If she doesnt want to lose weight, that's on her and not on you. She should be supportive in your decision to lose weight

>>41652230
>Fat parent generally have fat kids which I don't want.

bingo, that's why i work out and am losing weight, my kids are young enough that they wont remember having a fat dad excep from old photos, i wanna take my son hiking and a bunch of other stuff and i couldn't do that the way i was 18 months ago, still fat but from working out for this long my fitness is pretty good now.

>>41652238
my missus is 5''3, prolly around 170lb, she would've been half that when we met, really stacked on the weight after the first child and a bit more after the second, it's still early days though, our second isn't even 1 yet and my missus breastfeeds so im not overly fussed, not like we bang anymore anyway lol

the most important thing to me is that she is a good mum, and she is.

>>41652219
Machines are often talked about negatively because /fit/ is a bunch of dyel SS noobfaggots. With machines, you greatly limit the risk of injuries from bad form, you get to push as hard you can without worrying about a 200lbs barbell falling on your ass, and since you're a noobie, I assume you're somewhat limited in the amount of exercises you know.
I recommend you do every single upper-body machine your gym has. Lower body is less relevant considering lunges and squats hit them plentiful.

>>41652235
I generally do. I have switched my meals to much smaller with more focus on healthier choices and smaller portions. I've attempted this before in the past but I find it doesn't work always since she will either snack on food soon after or want a large dessert.

Although, this was when I was not taking my diet seriously and regressed back into bad habits. I'm hoping that now I'm taking a much more dedicated approach to losing weight, she might do the same.

Used to be strong as fuck now I am fat as fuck


Went back to the gym today/yesterday


I have lost all my strength
Am I gonna make it?

>>41652283
In time and with effort and a little bit of planning and smarts

you fucking will

So I started cutting calories in mid April and I've been doing IF for the past 3 weeks or so. I've gotten to a point where I eat one big meal and one small one and then I'm so full I don't even want to eat. I haven't gone over 1,200 calories in the last week. Is this too low? Is there any danger in eating this low?

>>41652271
Don't make excuses for her anon. I gave birth nearly 4 months ago and have dropped 36lbs just through watching my calories.
I also breast feed. Breastfeeding burns an extra 200-500cals, so she literally has no excuse for being a severe fatty

Start cooking the meals. Fix her plates. Don't make enough for seconds.

>>41652081
i was in the same type of relationship, i gained maybe 50? dump her, being alone sucks sure, but now i have a super skinny fit gf who encourages me to lift and work hard.

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>>41652276
Thanks

>>41650926
>if you don't eat the foods that are junky and enjoyable to binge on you'll lose weight

who would have known

>>41652283
If you were athletic you'll gain it back a lot quicker.

>>41652312
I lost 40 lbs of baby weight in about a month. Obviously a lot of it was fluid, but I was simply too exhausted to eat as well.


It was fucking hell after that though, couldn't seem to lose more than 10 lbs all year. Things are just starting to pick up though, albeit I yo-yo a whole lot. Post-pregnancy weight loss is no joke. It took a mess of fasting/IF regimes to get things kick-started for me. I had the heaviest period of my life this week so I hope that's a sign of my pre-pregnancy homornal balance returning.
She might benefit from IF, but whatever time she dedicates to fitness, that anon has to pick up the slack.

>>41652312
i hear ya, but i cant do it for her and to push the issue would just cause friction, she has to want it and i dont think she cares at this point so there isn't that much i can do at this point although i hope once the kids are at school she can have a bit more time to pursue such things

>>41652276
>With machines, you greatly limit the risk of injuries from bad form

or you can just lower the weight and stop ego lifting and remove the risk of injuring yourself while getting all the benefits

squat, deadlift, benchpress, ohp should be his main focus, it's not a meme, it builds a good solid foundation, come back to the machines after 3 years if you need to focus on something specific but otherwise avoid imo

either way though, getting in the gym and doing something is the right move

>>41652410
That's how I was with my first. Weight was constantly fluctuating and could lose anything. But I knew what it was. I wasn't dedicating myself. I would attempt to eat a certain amount of calories but would go completely over. I'd have good weeks, and then BAD months. It takes dedication. That's all there is to it. You don't even have to work out.
Once I got my sbit together and stopped making excuses for myself, it was easy.

>>41652410
Hey, I remember from a conversation I had with glitch. I put you up against Pieman since you're both fasting folks.

>>41652305
Depends on your height and weight

>>41652428
I still strongly disagree with you, and think machines are fine, but we can agree on this:
>either way though, getting in the gym and doing something is the right move

>>41652428
I have gone up about 1.5lb in the last two days but only ate slightly over my goal. Should I be worried or do you guys think I just need a good shit. I took a laxative just in case.

>>41652510
You shouldn't worry about day to day weight, but weekly progress.

>>41652510
yeah, as >>41652543 said, dont worry about day to day weight, it is gonna vary depending on when you weigh yourself, when you ate, full/empty bladder and bowels, but over a longer period say a week or month you should see a drop in average weight if you are consistent with your diet 95% of the time.

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>finally down to large size shirts
>the only part that is tight is the arms because my biceps are big now

How accurate do you think dominos calorie calculator is?
It's saying 250 for
Hand tossed, medium 12" reg cheese
With pepperoni, salami, red onion, green peppers, shredded provolone, spinach, and black olives

>>41652410
>>41652476
I aint lose shit this week, increased my sodium intake and drank 10 lbs of water lol

>>41652666
per slice? sounds about right

>>41652666
All dominos use a set amount of ingredients so it is likely correct. Should really eat something else tho

>>41652666
Why even bother to count calories if you're eating Dominos... godamn some you guys simply want to remain fatasses huh?

The best tip I can give you is this;
if it was easy, everybody would do it

>/fat/ "suns out but no guns" edition

I feel this feel. Fuck.

>>41652832
>Why even bother to count calories if...
dumb question, counting is always, always better than not counting.
Doesn't matter if you're eating leafy salad or cheesecake. That's the whole fucking point.

>>41652832
You don't have to survive in grilled chicken and broccoli to lose weight.
Jesus Christ I'm eating some pizza while still maintaining my cut. You guys are acting like the world is going to blow up over pizza once in a blue moon

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Hey /fat/, been losing weight for about a month and a bit now. Don't know how much I'm down but definitely lost a bit. It's not been too hard cutting out the amount of sugar and fast food I was eating, and instead exercising whenever I start to crave.

Today was the day I felt most like breaking. I went to try on some new pants but none of them fit correctly, and it's not that their too big or small its that I have pockets of fat and flab that just haven't gone and this made the pants tight around the crotch area mainly (I want straight fits), desu I tried on so many and couldn't get a good fit that it made me angry, but that anger turned to sadness when I thought of how only 2 years ago I was relatively slim weight of 12 stone (6'1 height). I never had confidence at that weight and always hated myself but at least I didn't have a fucked up body shape and fat under my chin as I do now. I don't think I've ever been as close to killing myself but I can't give up. I'm just depressed that I'll probably never be like I was again. Everything about me (posture) etc is fucked.

Sorry for the diary type post but you guys are the only people I can talk to about this.

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>first time cutting
>just need my abs to show again
>realize it's actually pretty tough to go on a diet
>almost sympathize with fatties
>almost

It's hard not to give into cravings, but seeing results on a weekly basis makes it all worthwhile.

>make a commitment to myself upon waking up, no fast food for the rest of the month, no drive thrus
>excited to follow through
>driving around, getting chores done, generally thinking about nothing in particular listening to a podcast
>get hungry, drive to a Raising Cane's
>order largest combo with extra fries and chicken
>AS SOON AS I TAKE THE FIRST BITE
>remember what I told myself not FIVE FUCKING HOURS AGO
>and the podcast says 'so right now what we need to do is focus on getting in shape, getting our lives together'
>sit in the car, 16 bucks of fastfood in the other seat, stinking of shame
>eat it anyway to stop feeling like shit about eating it
>look at myself in the flip-down mirror
>hit myself in the face
>do it again
>doesn't feel like I've set things right like it usually does
>head's just ringing a bit
>go home
>post on /fit/
I hate how weak I am. I hate how much I hate myself for hating myself. I hate hating myself. I don't feel anything but this low rumble of shame and disgust. I couldn't even puke it up when I got home, I CANT" EVEN MAKE MY OWN GAG REFLEX WORK WHEN I WANT IT TO
I CAN'T EVEN THROW UP WHEN I SET MY MIND TO IT
HEY MAYBE IF I COMMITTED TO BEING A FAT SLOB I WOULD FAIL AT THAT
OR WOULDMY OWN BRAIN REALIZE I WAS TRYING RERVERSE PSYCHOLOGIY AND JUST MKE ME WORSE
GODDAMNIT
GODDAMNIT
DGDASMNIT

>>41652848
>Doesn't matter if you're eating leafy salad or cheesecake. That's the whole fucking point

So you believe eating 2000kcals of cheesecake everyday won't make you fatter than if you ate 2000kcals of salad?

>>41652953
fat fuck

>>41651433
Thanks, see you next time.

>>41652953
OH YEAH AND THIS IS THE SEVENTH TIME I TRIED THAT
ANDF THIS IS THE FASTEST I FUCKED UP
Usueally it's three or four days, best time was in February, I got to five, but no. NO I COULDNT DRIVE HOME AND EAT THE SHITTY FOOD THERE I COULDNT COMMIT TO DENYING MY STOMEACH 20 MORE MINTUES OF PAIN
FUCK
FUCKFUCKFUCK
FUKCFUCK

>>41652973
AGAIN
SAY IT AGAIN
TELL ME I NEED TO KILL MYSELF
I CAN'T DO IT ON MY OWN I NEED YOU TO TELL ME TO DO IT
TELL ME TO DO IT MAKE IT YOUR DECRESE BECAUE IF I DO IT ILL FUCK UP
TELL ME YOU WISH IWAS DEAD
SAY IT YOU STIPD FAGOT SAY IT

>>41652953
You should look into therapy for real my dude

>>41652924
It's time to lift, son

>>41652965
calories in calories out

>>41652953
Nigga you can't get fit if you knock your brain lose

Buck up and get back on the fucking horse

Dont' bring money with you when you leave the house, or any more than absolutely necessary if you have to

You can learn, you can change. Don't let this be an opportunity to find an excuse in your weakness. It's just another excuse to give up because you screw up

And stop fuckin hitting yourself, what are you, a house elf? Have a fucking sock, Dobby, and do better tomorrow. I believe in you

>>41652965
I'm not him, but pretty sure that's exactly how it works

is this one of these 'kilogram of steel or kilogram of feathers' retard riddles

>>41653009
Soon I will.

>>41651799
That's nothing like that, kek

>>41653016
When I mess up and I get hit for it by someone, I stop feeling bad about it and I'd stop fucking up for a while. It stops the guilt, like if I gave myself pain I can process the shame because I made some sort of penance for it.

Sometimes I twist my ear but I pulled the skin so hard it bled and I had to bullshit for a while so I stopped doing that.

It just wokrs okay

>>41653020
Well desu it's not that simple. You still lose weight but at different rates because of the different types of nutrients in a cheesecake i.e. carbs and sugar are a lot harder to burn than the pure natural proteins, fibres, sugars
in salads

>>41652965
Unless you're like 150cm 2000kcals of deep fried sugar wouldn't make you fat.

>>41652953
okay it's time to clam down. There's two ways to go about this, hear me out now : one you can go the healthy sane route and not give in to the self hatred that you feel after failure because it is not productive, not helping you advance in any way into your betterment and actually start loving yourself no matter what and seeing the bigger picture. You'll get there eventually, it takes years for people to get out of the hyperfocus of binging, and you're conscious enough to realize it's a wrong relationship with food in the act. You're practically there. You gotta implement some cognitive systems to help you avoid the high risk decision making situations where you will most likely revert to subconscious decision making and go directly for the fast food. It's a mental battle.
Another way you could go about is use this anger you're feeling and use it to fuel your workouts, literally use your frustration to pay the price of your mistakes until you come clean.
Just don't resort to violence, or regurgitating your food. it'll set you back years in terms of mental health progression and it's key to make progress. Think healthy mind, healthy body anon!

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>>41653047
>carbs and sugar are a lot harder to burn than the pure natural proteins, fibres, sugars
>in salads

>>41653047
is this bait

i can't tell

>>41653073
I dunno what the fuck is in normie salads mate. They differ all the time from having chicken etc

>>41653073
>>41653088
Salads have lots of good sugars dumbasses, you obviously didn't study nutrion.

>waistband of underwear no longer folds over as it digs into your love handles

We're going to make it.

>>41653108
>he thinks that's what's wrong with that post

ate 250g of lentils in a sitting.
RIP my asshole.

>>41652924

Hey bro, it's 100% possible to get back to where you were.

2 years ago I was at 110kg (240lb iirc, at 6'2) and my posture was fucked - hunched over, one shoulder pulled forward, in constant pain.

Saw a dietitian, made some easy changes to my diet. That alone lost me 15kg over 18 months, just from swapping out pasta/microwave food for easy shit like rice, oats, fish, fruit smoothies. Literally no extra effort, no counting calories or worrying about keto or any of that shit, just eating one set of easily prepared food instead of another. I still snacked when I was out (tried to keep it to 80/20).

Then I started exercising. Put a treadmill in front of the TV, and spent 15 minutes on a day while watching TV. Slowly ramped up to 30/40 minutes a day, just jogging while watching TV or listening to podcasts. Within a few months I'd dropped another 12kg.

Now I'm down to 76kg (167lb). Shifted my BMI from 29.5 (with 30 being medical obesity) to 22.

I also started stretching, again just 10 - 30 minutes a day while watching TV/movies/podcasts, straightened my spine out, loosened my shoulders, aligned my hips properly. It's so much more comfortable now, and people would actually comment on how I seemed taller.

Start slow, don't try to go balls deep with calory counting and broscience, all that does is stress people out.

Just focus on basic lifestyle changes, calories out > calories in, see a dietician to figure out what you need to fix in terms of food (seriously, this helps a ton, don't rely on the internet). Do a bit of stretching, and work to increase your exercise from month to month. It'll be slow, but the changes will be easy and permanent.

Good luck anon.

Fat anon with tinder again. Well today's the day. Just 2 hours until I meet her. Got so little sleep last night. Still need to wash my car, shower and shave.

>>41653071
> You gotta implement some cognitive systems to help you avoid the high risk decision making situations where you will most likely revert to subconscious decision making and go directly for the fast food.
Can you make some recommendations?

>>41653145
Thanks man, the sincerity and passion in your reply has me welled up.

I guess I am going to make it.

>>41652666
It sounds about right. I'm not going to argue that you should eat something healthy, though... satan.

>>41653183
You're gonna kill it bro

>>41653215
also weighed myself this morning. down a total of 3kg since last week.

I haven't weighed myself since Friday. Anyone else in the fat contest waiting until upcoming Friday to weigh again?

>>41653236
why would you wait? what if you've made a mistake somewhere along the line and you're stuck or even gaining weight. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

>>41653187
think of it as a containment protocol. in case of intrusive binging thoughts, try to propose alternative emergency "exits" to going through with the urge, and implement enough of those diversions up to the point where the craving will subside, or you will lose interest.
One thing you can do is the bait and switch reward system : basically when you feel like binging, go to the place of binging (physically and emotionally) and just buy a water, or a salad. That way you will have bypassed a habitual cognitive route into becoming a healthy response (and basically don't have to do all the mental weight lifting in your decision center because thoughts have mass depending on their depth, and you can feel like you're being overloaded easily starting to combat binging.) What's more you can reap the benefits of the reward as in endorphins and serotonin from the "good boy" part of the brain that rewards good behavior. Keep doing it until you're high on the good life. Chase the feeling of doing what you really want to do in terms of health, and you'll be there in no time.
other ideas might come from googling reward switch, decision center in the brain, cognitive systems to fix unhealthy habits in psychocognitive therapies. they have really good tools, I am not a scholar, but remember most of this from a class and since then it has established deep rooted systems in my brain that I wouldn't know how they function, but they do work about making "good" decisions. Good luck anon.

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>>41653188

For sure man. It's just about keeping the progress slow and steady.

Pic related - last year's jeans. Even my current pair need replacing, have to wear a belt tightened by a few extra slots just to keep them up.

>>41653071
good post

Anyone have a link to the contest document?

>>41653300
Fat fuck

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>tfw struggling with alcholism slows down my weight loss
I've at least cut down from drinking every night to only drinking one night but boy do I drink a lot that night. I tried only bringing down a small amount of money down to the bar with me but I ended up going home and buying beer at the convenience store. I'm so hopeless.
>pic related, my vice

Alchohol was a mistake bros. I wish I was never exposed to it.

>>41653300

ps. possibly the single best decision I ever made was to keep a box of spring water next to my computer on my desk and carry a bottle of water with me at all times. That way I get thirsty and immediately just reach for the water instead of having to go all the way to the fridge/shops and then being tempted to drink something shitty.

Make the lazy option and the healthy option the same, and losing weight becomes much less of an uphill battle.

>>41653140
Are lentils the cause of that? Sometimes I'll eat a can of boiled peanuts, and shitty shit happens. I just thought it was because I drink the sodium-laden juice, and it was like a salt laxative.

>>41653354
250g of lentils has about 75g of fiber, dude. always fucks with my system.

>>41652671
My period's going away, it's going down (next week) bitch

>>41653354
AHHHHHH BOILED PEANUTS AHHHHH THE CRAVINGS!!!!!

The most pathetic thing about me and spring time is that allergies are so bad that I can't put my contacts in. Exercise with glasses on? Not possible. Who could stand that sweat?

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>>41653366
ewww grill
nice double dubs

>>41653183
are you the lickaroo tinder date anon?

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>20 minutes until i have to eat the broccoli

>>41651812
They will all stare and laugh at you.

>>41653330

Haha I wasn't even that fat at the time, that's the worst part. I tried them on the other day because my current pair got wet and it blew my mind.

I remember buying the pair after that (the ones I wear now) and thinking "these are probably as tight around the waist as I'll ever go because they dig into my hip bones." Now I need to pull my belt extra tight and fold the waistline over just to keep them up.

>>41653390
Eat your broccy fatty

>>41653390
Boil it for a minute then sprinkle spike/Mrs dash on it

Tastes fucking great

>>41653300
>>41653352
Thanks, it really means a lot to know other people went through this. I definitely need to increase my water intake.

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>>41653376
Sure am

>>41653366
my fast is over next week. this week is the only fair fight we have lol

>>41653273
Idk. I've been doing pretty well this week food-wise. I've thought about weighing, but I don't want to feel like "Shit, I should fast to win this competition." I've also gotten better about habitual obsessive weighing, so that's part of it, I guess.

>>41653288
This is really interesting, what class did you take?

>>41653429
how long you been fasting? I only IF lately, and I've been doing the girly IF the past few days.

>>41653043
Fuck that, face reality and consequence like a functioning human, not a spasming invalid

We bitch and moan here, that's part of the process, but if you're just wanting sympathy, or even some fucked up masochistic complex where you want us to yell at you too, it isn't gonna happen

We're results fucking oriented here. Hit the fucking gym, not yourself

This is probably a stupid question but should you avoid working a muscle group that just got tattooed? I'm getting a tattoo on my calf next week, should I just lay off the calf raises for a while?

>>41653346
>Alchohol was a mistake bros. I wish I was never exposed to it.

Same. But it's your choice, your responsibility. I'm assuming you meant that you cut down to one night per week instead of every night. If so, that's really good, man. Just keep trying to lower it. Maybe skip one week, or get a tall boy or two and drink it at home.

>>41653448
It was a master's degree level class in grad school entitled "cognitive biases in democratic systems" which was taught by a guy who was a member of the scientific council of the nuclear authorities in my countries (basically he was debunking public opinions which were biased cognitively about the advancement of technologies, kind a like a philosopher for scientists), as well as giving courses in reinsertion centers for teens that radicalized themselves and went to jihad and came back from it and he would teach them how to get out of the mental mind games of the recruiters that would have tricked them into thinking a certain way about life eventually leading them to becoming terrorists. All in all very interesting course where we learned how to deconstruct thought processes and kinda have an insider's view on the brain from a scientific and ethical perspective.

>2 miles on bike warmup
>10 60/30s
>Hour lifting with bro

Fucked up. Had a deep fried cheesy burrito for lunch when a co-worker and I went to lunch today.

I can't find calorie information on it so I'm not eating again today.

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were all gonna make it brahs, (full from lunch and going to bed now)

>>41653542
How many calories do y'all think this is?

Inside is chicken and beans

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>>41653574
Fuck

>>41653574
800-1100 ish depending on size

>>41653574
Depends on size. I like to assume any big burrito or burger is 1000 calories if you're not sure.
You can use MFP and search "chicken and bean burrito" then find the highest calorie one.

>>41653464
23 days today, my 30th is next friday

>>41653592
Oh shit man that's minimum 1200.

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>Had to stop lying to myself
I know why I am fat and why I have been ignoring this part of my diet/meal plan
>Do not leave shit out and think it doesn't matter
>I snack on 500-800mg a day on seeds
>This would bring in an extra 1000+ calories a day you're taking in regardless of anything else you keep track of in your diet
>Do not lie to yourself

Amount Per
1 cup (129 g)
Calories 721
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 63 g 96%
Saturated fat 11 g 55%
Polyunsaturated fat 27 g
Monounsaturated fat 21 g
Trans fat 0.1 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 9 mg 0%
Potassium 1,044 mg 29%
Total Carbohydrate 14 g 4%


>I've been eating like this for a long time, and leave the seeds macros out of my diet plan, the thing is this is the one thing that is fucking killing my cut every time

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>>41653614
let a seed be planted from this, anon, you'll reap what you sow soon!

>>41653592
At least 1200

>>41653614
Who the fuck eats seeds

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>>41653687
>Its a russian thing

I've been eating seeds since birth in russia, and I keep eating them every day at about 500-800 grams worth every fucking day, I'm not buying them anymore and I want to see what happens if I stop eating them completely

I've been eating them out of habit, and have to stop

Could an artist give us a sweaty, sunburned fat Wojak on a beach with other fat Wojaks and a few chads and stacys

Beach Bod edition

>>41651478
This is some of the best b8 I've ever seen

1800 calories comes so quick.

>>41653595
>>41653599
>>41653610
I'm gonna add 1400 since it was deep fried as well.

It was fucking amazing to eat and unless it was 1800 calories I'm still under my cut.

>>41653735
Dude just assume it was 1800 and be done eating for the day
Eating at,maintenance for a day won't ruin your cut.

>>41653735
Don't forget your goal is to be a healthy functioning human being and that means learning to enjoy food and balance unhealthy days in your diet.

But yeah don't binge.

getting better by the day https://youtu.be/Nl6t-aifVB0

How trust worth is MFP for calories burned vs the Stationary bike?

I did a 2 miles at no resistance as a warm up before doing 10 sets up 60/30s at 4 resistance for the rest and 7 for the Sprint.
And then I did about 45 min of wieghts.

I'm 260, 6'4".

Should I even count calories burned or just eat like I'm not exercising?

>>41652953
Cane's is amazing though. The box combo is 1200 calories

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>>41651542
Because the true Black pill is that what you eat means very little, calorie restriction is your only hope and even then a fair few people in this thread will die at 60 even with a perfect diet while some fill fail and reach 80+

My own grandfather is 85 and has now smoked for a grand total of 77 years and grandma cooks everything in lard

Life aint fair

>>41653889
337 bro?

>>41651966

We help you fix your body; your brain is up to you.

>>41653138
>He thinks CICO is all that matters

>>41652953
What helped me out a lot was just starting to lift and not focusing a whole lot about diet. Once you learn that one bad meal or day doesn't mess up your life, you'll be able to commit to losing weight. Just eat what you want and make better decisions as you go along, but lift while you're doing it. Lose the weight when you're ready and take your time

>>41653885
NEVER count exercise calories. Unless you're bulking.

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>stop drinking soda and juices
>start drinking water
>cut back considerably on portions
>cut back on/stop snacking
>do more physical activity than I normally do on top of all of this
>start to noticably lose weight
>"alright, I just have to keep this up"
>get too comfortable
>temptations to eat like shit again flair up after a while
>give in
>with that comes laziness
>put weight back on if not more than before
>this happens at least once a year
>will never truly be thin at this rate

It's about that time of the year. I haven't given in yet but fuck me I want something sweet right now

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>>41650645
I know that you can't spot reduce, but is there literally anything i can do for my lower abs? My top four are visible, but i still have a mini pouch

I stopped drinking dairy and drink all of my water in stainless steel bottles. Would carbs be a problem? I eat a shit ton of them.

>>41654035
Greek yogurt plain with a scoop of whey protein. Sweet as fuck and healthy.

>>41654037
Try yohmbine. It might be loose skin though.

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had a good work out the gym, ripped one of my callouses off though doing monkey bar work, oh well, friday so i have 2 rest days coming up now

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>>41650645

Does anyone here do any work with kettlebells?

I've been doing the "Simple and Sinister" routine of 10 sets of 10 swings and 5 get ups per arm as my morning workout.

Seemed reasonably ideal for /fat/ since you can do the routine in your living room and the only equipment is a big iron ball with a handle.

>>41652220
You should tell her this nigga

>>41654044
I remember trying greek yogurt before and not liking it too much. Should probably give it another shot.

>>41654077
i have, she feels hte same pretty much, but we both love our kids, want them to have a mum and dad in their life, and so this is our lot in life

once im fit, maybe ill buy an apartment and keep a trap waifu there on the side

Hey /fat/

how much would drinking a gallon of water increase my metabolism in % ?

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>>41651792
Fairly decent lost a little over 10lbs and although I ate a bit to much BBQ on Memorial Day still going steady.

>>41654057
Buy a callous shaver so it doesn't happen again. Also buy liquid skin/bandage that shit takes awhile to heal.

>>41653885
Exercise because you enjoy it or progressing. It is shit for weight loss and it is unhealthy to try and do it for weight loss.

Focus on progressing and getting better.

>>41654082
It's kind of shit plain.
Scoop of chocolate whey and it's god tier. Or add it to oats.

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>>41654137
SOMEBODY ANSWER THIS FFS

>>41654163
I'll try that, thanks

>>41654092
You can fall back in love with someone with effort from both sides, look at couples therapy

>>41654076
I use my 24 kg for cardio and explosive stuff and it feels berry good.

>last gf was into wieght gain
>Basically made me.go along with it, constantly looking for food to feed me, bring home fast food, etc
>First gf, self esteem was super low despite going to the gym and playing sports semi regularly
>Went from 6'1" 175 to 320 over our relationship
>She leaves me after I find out she's cheated with a /fit/ guy
>After I decline her offer of an open relationship

Give me one reason why I shouldn't kill myself.

>>41654154
i've been using a nail file to keep them in check and mouisturising them with vitamin e, but every now and again one rips off from deadlifts, or as it was today - monkey bars.

ill be right though, idgaf about the pain, ill just chalk it up on monday and get right back to it, it'll toughen up by the end of the week

>mcdonalds
>67 cents per hamburger today cause it's their birthday
>picked up 3
>250 calories each, 100g each

welp there goes lunch and dinner

>>41654220
You deserved it for sure.

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so basically, by doing keto, it's okay to not count calories from it? so keto fags here are saying, i will still lose weight even if i eat 6000 calories of keto foods per day? interesting

>>41654304
No you fucking retard. Your calories still matter.

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>>41651380
>buying fake clothes

Never going to make it

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>>41654354
M E T A B O L I C damage

>>41654304
You must stay below 150 grams of protons m8 so unless you enjoy shot gunnin mayo and oil u fugged.


I did keto twice, First time I lost weight and hardly ate because it killed my appetite

Second I had to restrict calories because I ate so much

Starting weight - 458lbs
Current weight - 351lbs
Goal weight - 230lbs

I currently float between 1300-1500 calories intake a day. I do full body work out 3 days a week and heavy cardio + light lifting the other 2 days. These work outs are in the morning at gym 1 (LA Fitness). I work an active job 9-10 hours a day. I was thinking of signing up for a 2nd gym (planet fitness) so I can work out a 2nd time in the same day as planet fitness is open 24/7 and only 20 minutes from home.

Is this viable as a long term solution? I'm also hoping the 2nd work out would help me sleep. I have a tendency to stare at the ceiling fan for 3+ hours usually. And before anyone mentions the downside of paying for 2 gyms, don't waste your time. $45 a month for gym memberships pales to the $400+ I used to spend on fast food. I'm 6'4" and 25 yo if that matters.

In 5 months I've lost 30 lbs. I'm not very good at this am I?

>>41654528
That's solid

So I felt dizzy on my walk home for the gym and after a 45 minute walk my heart rate was still up in the upper 130s. Is this a sign I may be cutting too much?

>>41654528
Solid and consistent is good anon.

>>41654567
Yes usually. If you're like me and stubbornly refuse to up your intake, dill pickles or making a weak broth using a chicken bouillon cube works well for giving you some quick sodium with close to no calories.

>>41654528
That's 6lbs a month which is perfectly healthy and normal.
10lbs a month is considered high end unless you're a megalard.

>>41654567
Get more sodium. People seriously neglect it sometimes.

>>41654455
Don't take this the wrong way, but how do you get that fat? I use to eat so much shit but ballooning past 260lb seemed impossible for me.

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>>41651380
That's the spirit! See you on the other side of fitness!

t. fellow femanon on the same track

>>41653361
Good to know.

>>41653368
Sorry, man. They really aren't that bad on calories, though, if eaten like a meal.

>>41654698
It WAS possible though so don't get snarky.

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>>41654698
Nah it's cool. And it's easy when your an anxiety eater. Shit wasn't always as good as it is now in my house/within my family. When people get depressed, nervous, or anxious, they usually have some way of calming down. Some smoke, so do drugs, some drink. I would eat. I would eat enough to make my stomach hurt every time. I would look forward to the pain.

I arrived at an ultimatum one day after another binge. I would either lose all the weight, or kill myself. I hadn't offed myself until this point because deep down I know someone would have to deal with my quarter ton corpse somehow. And with my luck, my little sister would be the one to find me. My lowest recently was 275lbs but I ballooned back up because my binge eating still wasn't entirely under control. It's why I'm at 350lbs again. I'm better at not binge eating now. So the weight has to go.

>>41653426
Nice pic. But, really, how many times have you fucked a girl from tinder on the first date?

>>41654830
NEW THREAD

i can't wait for this thread to be 300, i have to go to the gym before pre work out wears out

>>41654804
i'm not being snarky, it's just that being 400lb is on a whole nuva level compared to the 200-300lb range

>>41653464
What is girly versus non-girly IF?
>if you're a girl, you're always doing it the girly way

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>>41654455
how the fuck did you it?

>>41654806
i wish you the best of luck mate, you can do it

>>41654855
Fasting for 12-14 hours

>>41653465
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>>41652279
Don't keep junk food in the house then.

>>41654857
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

I still haven't read his book

So any cliffs on this?

>>41653504
Really cool, man. If you don't mind me asking, what degree did you earn? Something science related?

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>>41654863
Do what? Are you referring to the transition from 458 to my current 351? Or how did I get so fat in the first place? If the latter, see >>41654806
>>41654866
Thanks anon. In trying. I have this crazy hope that I'm going to show up to my high school reunion as Chad tier. Unrealistic but fuck it, it something I suppose

>>41653545
What are meatless bacon bits?
And why would you eat them when you have meat in your diet?

>>41653592
Damn. I want to eat this. Was it delicious, and did you savor every last bite?

>>41654876
There's an audible on youtube. Worth it

>>41653687
I do. Sunflower seeds. Aren't those bretty common?

>>41653704
What sort of seeds?

>>41653730
More vegetables.

>>41653893
this u?

>>41653895
I'm 337....

>>41650645
Have a question: I can't afford a gym membership. I'm eating great even though I have small amounts of money and I walk to the grocer to get food if I do shop. I don't eat out. I want to lift but... currently the gym closest to me is $40 a month and I can't afford that.

Any advice?

>>41653614
Why would you intentionally eat seeds and not count the macros? You're setting yourself up for failure, Jesus go read the wiki

>>41650725
You're a fat cunt, eat some broccoli

>>41654893
no clue just typed in bacon bits