/fraud/

Drunk w/ mother edition ama

>>41441550
Wachoo drinkin?

>>41441556
Bourbon with orange seltzer and fresh mint from my garden

>>41441550
is she still

T I G H T?

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There was already another thread but he didn't link it

Oh well

Only 50 lbs to go until I don't want to jump off the local radio tower

Can test e make your dick bigger if you're still going through puberty?

>>41441573
My threads are better anyway.

Starting my first tren cycle any day now
Was trying to diet down to 185 before pinning but I'm stuck at 193 and have been for 2-3 weeks now so I think I may just say fuck it and pin anyways
I understand diet is everything but how are Tren's fat loss abilities? I was gonna eat a few hundred over maintence on this cycle. Low test and as high tren as I can handle. I'm probably around 15-17% right now. Should I keep dieting?

>>41441562
Sounds pretty good actually.

>>41441590
Yeah it's really crisp

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>>41441550
Bimbo am I too light to cut I only weight 156. Should I continue to stuff my face with fast food to gain some weight.

story time
> be me at laundromat in oakland
> voluptuous woman with sunglasses is definitely checking me out
> eventually have 4 minutes left on dryer
> she is standing right next to me
> start talking
> she is south american or something and between her accent and the dryers i am not understanding a lot
> ..." where do you live"...
> ... "i work out like like 5 days a week. yeah. shirts get pretty dirty"...
> ... "can't tell if you are excited because of this-- how do you say? shirt?
> ... "can't tell you are excited because of those jeans"....
> "is your penis excited?"
this was 1.5 minutes after "hello"
> "uhhh"
> "whats the matter, are you shy?"
> "YES"
> ding.wav
> "it was nice meeting you!"
now boys, the reason i was hesitant was i could not tell if "she" was a tranny. i mean, that body was 1000% bangin' female, but something was just off about the whole thing. i kept having fleeting images of hairy armpits and adams apples and her voice and her 0-90mph approach and the way she didnt remove her glasses.
> tfw you hate the modern world because you should not have to wonder if a female is an actual female
> tfw you lost a chance at easy pussy because transfaggots are running wild and you cannot ask a woman if she is real

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>when you can finally cruise on 350mg with no discernible sides

T-thanks EQ

>>41441608
Use a better picture. I can't see shit.

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>>41441648
My phones busted so I have to use front facing shit sucks. But yea 156 I'm like 5'7. Was 164 like 2 weeks ago but lost weight due to stress.

Think of the 3 most attractive girls you know personally, now imagine their boyfriends.

Think of the 3 coolest, most popular guys you know. The ones respected by everyone, the life of the party etc.

Do any of these 6 guys have such high levels of muscle mass, combine with low levels of body fat that it would be indicative of steroids?

Of course they don't :>) but keep on reaching for that rainbow. When you're 5'8 200lb lean, those girls that made fun of you in HS, THEN they'll see :@

>>41441690
I would cut to 145 and reasses from there.

>>41441582
I've got a buddy who is cutting for his first show, 210, been cutting for a couple weeks on tren and hes 220, way leaner. Diet is absolute shit.
Tren is a hell of a drug

>>41441693
The three most attractive women I know hate me because they can't get over me.

>>41441629
the chollos were going to cut out your kidney you got lucky and she took pity on you for being a nice shy guy

>>41441690
See if you can grab a shirtless pic

What's the best program to get aesthetic on if you're starting from a skelly and doing 500mg Test E for 16 weeks?
Also, what would be a good diet? Should I just dirty bulk to try and gain 40 pounds, or should I eat clean? How many calories should I be aiming for if I wanna get jacked?

>>41441787
>starting as skelly
I will never know the easy mode of gaining as a skelly and not skinnyfat
>tfw

>>41441787
High volume high frequency. Plug your shit into a tdee calc.

>get pip
>pain travels all the way to the balls for some ball ache
lovely

Why do I suddenly want to get more sleep on T then when I did before? Before I started I could get by just fine on 6 hrs of sleep. Now I struggle to get out of bed with 10.

Wtf is wrong with me fraud?

Taking 100mg of Test P 5 days a week + an HCG shot + an AI.

>>41441693
>roiding for girls
wtf?

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>>41441762
Cam is busted makes pics blurry and I bet you just wanted to see my gyno bb. And fuck I'm going to feel small well smaller at 145.

>>41441825
Leanness and the grainy 3D gives an impression of size.

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>just found out my EBT works on creatine and whey protein

Thanks for the free gains wagecucks. Make sure to get to work early tomorrow to make more money to pay me in taxes.

>>41441845
As long as it's nutrition facts and not supplement facts

Also get a job

>>41441820
this
>not roiding for that high quality grindr bp

>>41441820
Unless you are doing something to

1) Improve your health
2) Improve your wealth
3) Improve your inter-personal relationships.

Then it is pointless. Taking steroids actually harms the top two and most important of this list. If you are a professional athlete or your body is your living then I can understand it. Otherwise it stems from intense insecurity bordering on mental illness.

You see the same "BUT IM DOING IT FOR ME" argument. Yeah, well the 'trans disabled" weirdos you see on Jerry Springer, who chop their legs off because they feel like they are a disabled person in a fully functioning body are "doing it for themselves" but it is asinine and worthy of derision. Just like a normal layperson taking steroids.

>>41441842
So I'm on 600mg test and some lgd right now. Think I should drop the test to 300 and add some masteron and cut cals down.

tfw drunkenly confessed feelings to girl and she reacted positively.

nice, this worked out good.

>>41441873
stop

>>41441868
Girls just want lean and tall? Gays are the only ones who appreciate a truly massive man.

>>41441873
Gear is cheaper than food unless you introduce growth.

>>41441882
Why wouldn't a girl react positively? What's so wrong with you that you'd need to be drunk or even have this perspective?

Pro tip: nothing

>>41441894
A lot of women like huge guys.

>>41441912
Only dumb low iq club sluts like massive guys. Cute twinkle will appreciate big guys way more than average female.

>>41441930
Okay but that doesn't make me wrong. You just changed the criteria.

>>41441912
courage mate

Guys I have some Doxepin lying around from half a year ago. It's mainly an antidepressant but has other effects like anti anxiety and anti insomnia.

I gained 20lbs the first time I used it before I stopped. However provided I count macros like I do now, surely I wouldn't gain weight, right? Indirectly it COULD cause lethargy but I imagine if I'm aware of it it won't.

Thoughts?

>>41441897
> I'm bimbo and I get to home brew and I never need ancillaries because I never get side effects because I was made in the image of The Greek gods themselves

>>41441811
You have awful technique if you get PIP. Honestly sometimes I still get PIP in my biceps but it just feels like a good pump

please dont do steroids

https://youtu.be/2Bb18-8-0YQ

>>41441940
I dint home brew and I look awful soooooo what's your point?

Also triangle have some confidence

>>41441817
youre body is growing. same reason teenagers sleep so much

>>41441956
eh my self esteem was better when i was with my ex, it'll come back no prob.

>>41441971
I feel it. My ex has been calling me 2-3x a day despite being sooooi in love with her new guy.

Still haven't answered.

how does bimbo get girls when his penis is only 5-6 inches

>>41441817
hcg mimicks lutenizing hormone. lh release doesnt make you sleepy as such, but rather your body recieves signals that it needs more sleep during its circulation. like why children need more sleep when going through pubery, lh is one of the contributing factors, and you're using hcg on cycle replicating that sleep signal pattern

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> yfw you will never be bimbo

hello faggots

ectomorph here. i am strong but always have been chubby with a preference for the gut (i guess that describes everyone)

will roids affect my body composition at all?

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>>41441930
>Only dumb low iq club sluts like massive guys

I get eye-fucked by girls 13-45 of all different stripes

t. guy approaching pic related

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>>41441995
Correct. Steroids, basically hormones that take a baby calf and turn it into a bull, they will NOT affect your body composition. What a stupid thought!

>>41441989
It's like 7 I'm just tall sucks don't matter for shit though women cum based off of a variety of things

>>41441995
>ectomorph
fuck off idiot

>>41442010
stop lying I've seen pics it's 6 max

How do you pleasure a woman with that

>>41441942
*exasperated sigh*
sky news is always pulling this shit with steroids
got that posh chelsea cunt to talk about how 'taking steroid tablets' to train for boxing ruined part of his life, he is either lying or a fucking idiot or both,

>>41442006
Well, I asked some hardcore powerlifters at my gym and they told me that most steroids will not have any effect on my body composition. I'll just get more muscular while retaining the same amount of fat, assuming no changes to my diet. This is mainly with compounds like testosterone which is what I asked about.

I know Tren might be a different case.

>>41442002
If I had a dollar every time a permabulking fatass compared himself to some jacked strongman..

>>41442024
Everyone has seen pics lmao I'm not going to feel bad about the size of my penis at least ridicule my core damn

>>41441995
i grew a tail and my skin turned to a scaled hide on my first cycle, steroids affect everyone differently and so may not affect you much or a lot. i'm gonna be pinning tren on my next cycle and i hope to grow wings and breathe fire

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>>41442036
>permabulking fatass

lolno

>>41442029
>talking to meatheads

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>>41441994
You don't want to be me

>>41442066
where are your abs ?

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>>41442151
Nonexistent

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>>41442066
>taking roids for this

>>41442155
If you have so much extra money why don't you finish your tattoo

>>41442155
post back

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>>41442169
Unflexed


Because I'm 3500 miles away from my tattoo artist ATM

anyone in here used peptides at all?
considering using some tb500 or BPC 157 atm

Why don't you guys just eat whey shakes for every meal on a cut? 20g of protein for every 100 calories.

>>41442408
>20g of protein for every 100 calories.
Thats shit, buy better protein

>>41442184
Tb500 really helped my bad joints, also ran ghrp 2 and mod grf

>>41441632
That's a pretty interesting cruise. What about cardio health tho longterm? Dgaf?

Just took 1mg of finasteride today and now im freaking out about sides and considering chucking it out and going bald.

Anyone got any experience with the stuff?

>>41442446
I take it but I only run test cycles. its probably saved my hairline

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so the other day i noticed a week after injection the area had a pimple l like thing with a red circle mark around 0.5" across so i thought maybe abscess?

three days later the red mark is gone, the head is still there but it's not painful or anything, however i noticed a very similar mark about ten inches lower on thigh so could it have been a pimple on top of the injection spot?

could i shoot in that glute today? haven't injected in it for 9 days, so if there was an infection i should know by now right?

>>41442489
stick a needle in it and see what comes out.

irrigate it if its oily or the blood is black

>>41442485
You are fucking retarded

>>41442489
> red Mark
Same here

Basically, stop being a lard ass and you won't get bumps. Do some cardio. It's probably a hemorrhoid mostly unrelated to pinning.

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>>41442519
kys meathead

>>41442509
it's that small i dont think i could get anything out of it, when i say head i mean like a little raised bump, like a mosquito bite but not as raised
>>41442519
been doing cardio, not a lard ass

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>walk into locker room
>pumped and swole, gym lighting on point
>take picture on my phone
>look like crap

I really need a better camera for this stuff.

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>>41442574
Everyday

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>>41442574

>Get a better camera
>think now it will look better
>still look shit

My left nipple is itchy af, so I took 1mg of arimidex, how long before it stops itching?
Currently been on 400mg of test-e and 600mg EQ for 5 weeks and it's my first cycle, only started getting the really annoying itching like 20 mins ago

Also if I've been taking 0.5mg of Arimidex EOD, do I now start taking 1mg EOD or do I up it to ED

>>41442774
GYNO BOOBIES

>>41442818
NO PLS

>>41442774
>1mg adex on top of .5mg eod, for 400 test

Bunk as hell

Id move it to smaller doses ed first

How long should I cruise if my blast is 600mg test pw for 4 months

>>41442855
>Bunk as hell
the Adex or the test?

Got it from purplepandalabs that was recommended by leddit

Also alright, will try .5mg ED and see how it goes

>>41442861
To be safe time on = time off, but really get bloods and if theyre good blast again cause thats overkill

>>41442886
>>41442774
If I wait to take ai until issues pop up it may take a week for it to calm down

>>41442886
The Adex

>trusting meme sources
>trusting ugl ai

Always pharma ai. Always

Does creatine make me look more jacked?

>>41443024
do you have problems with using pill cutters with pharma asin?

i wouldn't trust UGL asin but the indian asin I get is just so crumbly that I always overdose to err on the side of safety because it doesn't ever cut perfectly in half

>>41442855
>>41443024
he's 245 pounds and his goal weight is 180

he's probably like 5'8 35% bf

it's not bunk, he's just morbidly obese

>>41443039
I use normal scissors and it gets it pretty close to quarters.

>>41443024
>>41443039
Ive used ugl asin from a guy in nz to great effect. If you wait until estro issues are physically noticeable then it isnt going to disappear overnight

I know absolutely nothing about steroids except that they make you stronger.

Is it true that if you take test you will stop producing your own?

>>41443182
yes

read the op

>>41443102
Hear that everyone? Some kiwi had almost decent ai once!
Put your titties on the line and hope that mystery white powder is ok!

>tfw modafinil makes you bright and bubbly

I don't like it.

>>41443198
Stop taking no ai and then expect gyno symptoms to disappear overnight with one dose.

>tfw he buys ugl myster amber oil and hopes its ok

>>41443318
I never insinuated that even a bit you retard. Even our fat friend above was already doing eod doses.
Why are you so intent on defending chinese chemicals?

The real thing to consider with ugl ai is fats help tgem pass the 1st filtration. Pharma is all coated.
That means even at 100% purity (lol) ugl ai will not be as potent.

Some brewers are smart and do prepare it with this in mind, but most just throw it in everclear.

>>41443343
We're all taking fucking Chinese chemicals.

>the real thing to consider, not a mystery powder anymore

>>41443371
They are very unlikely to be as potent per mg. Nigh impossible.

Test is much less often faked and cut, and brewing it requires no knowledge, unlike a good ai mix

>>41443420
>He doesnt take it with a meal and fish oil

Billions is really good I like this psychiatry ho that dominates giamatti

>>41443607
He's trying to communicate, I know it.

>>41443634
It's a program on showtime

>>41443639
TV melts your brain and makes you infertile.

>>41443650
Tell that to my 3 miscarriages and 2 abortions

>>41443655
Well, the melt your brain part is certainly confirmed.

>>41443634
Maybe one day he will succeed, but today is not that day.

>>41443662
Man I'm constantly studying I'm just a ho

>>41443674
How's your time management? You seem to complete a lot during a day.

>>41443714
2-3 hours of sleep. 4-6 lifting. 2-3 eating/cooking. 8-10 working/studying. 2-3 intermittent downtime.

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>>41443737
>2-3 hours of sleep

?????? How. I function on fairly low sleep, 4-5 hours but lower than that I become a brain dead retard.

>4-6 lifting
Wut. I take like 2.5 hours absolute max. Then again I'm an autist and speak to nobody.

>spends 4-6 hours a day at the gym
>still doesn't work abs

>>41443769
Insomnia or better things to do. I lift 2-3x daily depending on my level of anxiety. I spend 2-3 hours daily making calls, contacts setting appointments and then meeting 1-2 appointments daily. Spend 1-2 hours studying whatever I want a cert or license for. Then I watch cartoons or my stories. If I'm bored with star wars or dramas I call a fuckbuddy but I trying out #nopussy.

If im not consistently busy I'm dissecting myself and why my ex calls me twice a day.

>>41443783
Abs are fucking stupid and you know it

>>41443791
No sleep is bad.

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>>41443737
>>41443769
>sleeplets

>>41443814
I don't question it and look halfway ugh so whatever

>>41443818
It's amazing what you can accomplish when you sleep less. Your day is much longer and generally more productive. I used to sleep in excess of 10 hours. Wake up. Feel like I've wasted the day, then just do nothing because doing something would stress me out given I feel I didn't have the time.

>>41443833
Sleep and anxiety are linked creating a feedback loop.

>>41443842
I like to sleep a good 7-8 hours and then take a nap in the middle of the day when I can, but I'm a firefighter and am pretty much always exhausted. Can't imagine how I'd operate on less sleep.

When I was at university I used to pull all-nighters before exams and then immediately go to the gym afterwards, though. That was always fun. I'd feel so amped up until I got home and crashed.

>>41443862
Yeah absolutely but I also have night terrors.

I'd rather skip that step.

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>get drunk and confess feelings to a girl i like
>possible date tomorrow
>tell ex to fuck off and not come for tomorrow
> 3 gorls randomly message me on kik saying "you're so fucking hot"

Get drunk guys.

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>>41443882
Lord. You have some demons you need to conquer.

>>41443902
I should get my ex pregnant

>>41441608
>Roiding for this

>>41443902
>not responding with "you're*"

>>41443912
I'm cool.

>>41443915
Good old bimbsie

>>41443902
have you ever posted a pic in fraud?
whats your stats friend

>>41443972
He might be more of a Dorito than me

>>41443928
>Not roiding for this

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Sup nerds

This is a pretty good fucking start considering I'm natty and only been at it for a few months isn't it

I'm gonna be fucking massive some day.

6'2 190.

uh, I think I'm considering roiding and just moving across the country and changing my name and getting a job somewhere as a personal trainer. Tell them I've been lifting weights for 10 years and I'm natty. Would that work? I really want to be a PT.

I want a fresh start on my life. New town, new job, new girl. Maybe start a family. Idk.

Ily all you guys here that gave me advice.

But natty lifting is such a joke. I train for hours every single day and I eat 10 meals a day and I look like shit Lamo I'm Tiny as fuck.

Uh, I've stopped having sex with girls entirely to try to maximixe test ( not kidding). After a few days of no sex I get this warm fuzzy feeling and more confidence and I notice more girls looking at me in the gym and my veins buldge out of my skin. High test feels? Is that what being on steroids feels like?

If so I want as many steroids in me as possible, I would inject them in my eyes if I could. Or is just placebo?

As far as training, what works is doing reps as slowly as possible to failure. Like negative to failure.

I'm convinced that the more negatives to failure you do the more size you put on.

Load an aproatpiate weight, do 5 sets to failure, lower the weight.

Again and again until there are tears in your eyes and your vision is blurry.

the slower the negative is the better

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>>41444038
you killed the thread, good job asshole.

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>>41443947
At least I'm consistent

Does drinking make anyone else itchy? I just downed 2 beers and my face is tingling and itchy once in a while, and my ears, and scalp are kinda itchy

Been happening a bit lately wtf

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>>41444149
What are you on big boy?

>>41444145
Yes impregnate her, pay her child support. Literaly give her money. The mother of your kid while she fucks other men. Literaly fund her whoreishness.
Hardly see your kid too.

>>41444038
where u get that tank at my guy

>>41444212
Test, adex, ec stack, did some var about a month ago

>>41444222
Nice double trips!
Where do y'all buy your shit from?

>>41444222
Do you have sensitive or naturally reddish skin?

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>>41444236
NO
FUCKING
SOURCE
TALK

>>41444239
Sensitive skin, pale af and I usually just get a bit flushed. I've been drinking a bit more lately since I've been single and the past few times I woke up hungover and itchy as hell, and just now I had 3 beers and I'm all irritated. It's fucking weird.

Maybe my liver is kill

Why don't you pale bitches take melanotan

>>41444236
Nice try Coppo

>>41444248
What does Catholicism say about sex with tight lolis ? I know shotas are fine

>>41444292
You may be allergic to alcohol which has been triggered by steroid usage (somehow?) or there's something in it that you're allergic to, are you drinking something new? You could also be suffering from Alcohol rash or rosacea.

>>41444312
Sex with children is wrong. Hence why they keep trying to cover it up.

>>41444315
Been drinking while on test for a couple years now, it's the same old shitty beer lol. Idk what it is man, rn the hair on my arms are itchy and tingling. Maybe I've developed an allergy

>>41444341
>Maybe I've developed an allergy
This is my guess although alcohol rash is a good contender. If you're a old fuck your body might not be producing enough enzymes to break the alcohol down.

What's with DNP, I lost 19lbs from when I started (with practically 0 strength loss BTW), yet I look worse than when I started. I look fatter and more DYEL

I know water weight and depletion blah blah. But then how do you know when you are actually done cutting with this shit? Or even how much you have cut so far?

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>>41444362
>But then how do you know when you are actually done cutting with this shit?

You don't because of the glycogen depletion. If you kept going until you thought you looked decent, you'd die. This is why you run DNP no longer than 3 weeks no matter what.

>Or even how much you have cut so far?
You don't. See above.

>>41444377
How much body fat can one lose on half a week on dnp?

>>41444435
Depends on the dosage, your calories, your diet and how fat you are.

The general range is 1-3lbs per day so anywhere between 4-12lbs.

>>41444497
I want to read the Bible (am Catholic and have read "in the beginning etc etc" and idk where to start what do?

>>41444510
Also want to reclaim the Holy Land, pls advise

>>41444435
you don't want to run this shit for half a week trust me. at effective doses, it will take around ten days AFTER you stop, for you to feel and look normal

while on it, and before these 10 days are up, you are going to look and feel like complete SHIT. it's only worth using if you have to lose a lot of fat in a short period of time, running it no shorter than 2 weeks, 3 weeks preferable.

otherwise the come-off period + feeling and looking like complete shit is not worth it.

>>41444377
>You don't because of the glycogen depletion.
im talking mainly the fucking WATER.

it's like I pinch a skinfold, and it feels like there is no solid tissue inside. before I ran it, I clearly felt obviously solid fat, but now after running it, it feels like almost all the fat in my body (didn't really have much to begin with compared to most people using this) has been replaced by WATER, literally.

i feel more watery than when I take 50mg dbol and let my e2 get high, its way worse than that.

>>41444521
so what I am asking here is just, is there a way to tell how much progress you have made without coming off of it and waiting 10+ days?

I am trying to cut from probably 15% or a little lower (all 6 abs were easily visible but not a lot of definition at all) to as shredded as can be reasonable outside of a contest prep, so like 7-8%, so I don't want to waste too much time coming off and then going back on, just to have to come off again. I would rather only have to go through the come-off once.

I have a serious mind right now to keep cutting harsh as hell but stop the dnp. I mean, I had 6 abs visible, and I lost 19lbs. I can't have too much fat left on me. It certainly doesn't feel like it when I pinch myself, just feels like 90% water.

>>41444510>>41444519

Get a King James and read the Gospel according to John, then Mathew, Mark and Luke. That sets the tone for the entire book and is a good summary of Jesus' teachings. The King James is good because it has prose and poetry in it, it has the feel the Bible should but it's not great if you actually want to do in depth studies of Christianity. It makes you feel cosy.

>>41444546
The only real way to accurately determine your progress is by doing a submerged body fat test. You shouldn't fret about your progress. Just stick to your original plan, otherwise you may end up dead.

>>41444548
The bible shouldn't be taken literaly. Or all that seriously you god damned fanatics.

>>41442489
This chick is my ex girlfriend..

>>41444581
She looks nice dude give her a call

>>41444581
She's quite pretty. Tell us about her.

>>41444581
How does it feel knowing she's taking BBC everyday now?

>>41444607
This is fake and gay

>>41444497
About 13-14% by estimate caliper says less but i don't think it's right.

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>>41444579
Yeah okay.

>>41444598
>>41444589
my mum HATED her aye, she couldn't hold a conversation for shit but I was whipped because she was hot and sucked dick like it was her job

>>41444579
The fantastical stories about creating the world in 7 days, the apocalypse, turning water into wine, virgin birth, etc. should not actually be taken literally but the teachings, values, and morals found in the fantastical stories should most definitely be taken seriously.

>>41444623
ok what's her name phaget

>>41444623
That doesn't really tell us anything about her.

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>>41444624

>>41444623
she also rocked up to the pub about a year since last time I saw her with some twink,
I knew the guy, super good dude, had no idea we had dated.
He started talking about how big my arms were and asking if i hit the gym; then after a while the girl informs him.

She sits next to me all night, i didn't buy a drink all night even though she wasn't' drinking.

went and danced for a bit, felt like a cunt because the dude was a bro; so walked off, she followed me like a puppy.

Messaged me the next morning; just trina forget about the bird
>>41444630
Sarah

>>41441845

>tfw you get paid cash under the table to bust heads and look scary at a bar just cuz your stronk
>tfw when this welfare leach useless faggot doesn't take any money out of my pocket for his faggot supps that when on cycle he shouldn't even need anyway if he knew how to eat. Ebt works for steaks and chicken too I heard you fucking shitbag. Fuck the jew and Fuck you

>>41444149
Bruv you need to get your liver enzymes checked. ALT and AST at least. Itching skin is absolutely a sign of liver disease. When liver is unable to break down bilrubin (bile), it builds up and secretes through the skin. Are you jaundiced or showing signs? Could be the case even without visual jaundice. I'd give up the alcohol and start some liver support right away. NaC plus vit c, milk thistle, and calcium d glucarate will cover all the detox pathways of the liver. Don't freak out and give up the cycle yet but get bloods done asap. I hope it's just an allergy, it is spring time after all, good luck my friend

Does anybody here dirty bulk while blasting or do you stay strict and clean?

Lads... give me your opinion.

I am adding Tren(E/C[parabolan]) to my 350/week Trest base... should I go 350mg with Tren or 700mg?

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>NEW BIMBO VID
Get fucking hyped

>>41444803
Just kidding, fuck tren

>>41444833
Why do I want to see this? Has /fit/ finally turned me gay?

>>41444890
You don't want to see this.

>>41444833
That core and lower back is just embarrassing it looks like a mans shoulders on a woman's waist

Don't even pretend like you deadlift bimbsie

>>41444894
But bimbo senpai I do. I know I never will tho and that's okay, one can dream.

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>>41444833
I typed a massive rant about how less than a thousand years ago our ancestors were once on Crusade risking everything they had for preservation of what they held dear and true and this is the state of our evolvement since then, but I deleted it because it's just in vain.

This just makes me upset.

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>>41444940
Why though

>>41444944
LMAO NOLEGS NOCORE

ARMS AND CHEST EVERYDAY

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>>41444944
> less than a thousand years ago our ancestors were once on Crusade risking everything they had for preservation of what they held dear and true and this is the state of our evolvement since then

"help I've fallen and I can't get up because I have no legs" - bimbo pressing his life alert

>>41444955
This is s picture of a cartoon

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>>41444972
Your life is a cartoon.

>>41444970
My knee falls out of place a lot so yea.
>>41444997
Also yeah

>>41444742
Thanks for this m8, gonna get checked out. I have been drinking a lot lately, I think my liver is kill. No jaundice or other signs, other than lethargy

>doesn't squat (nolegs)
>doesn't deadlift (nocore)
>still hung up on his ex emotionally to the point of instability
>likes mommy/shota boy role play and breastfeeding
>does gay porn but thinks he's straight

any reason bimbo shouldn't kill himself right FUCKING now?

>>41445030
Yes because he is secure in his identity and loves himself m8

Why are you projecting your feelings onto him, he's happy doing what he's doing

Also he has a good physique

>>41445030
Why did you emphasise fucking instead of now?

>>41445041
Put your trip back on kiddo

>>41444955
This picture made me miss warhammer

>>41444624
I agree I love the morals and traditional view based on the nature of things. It makes sense. Even as a non religious person I'm still against degeneracy and have alot of the same Christian views and values except when it comes to retarded beliefs about life after death or supernatural bullshit. You've gotta be retarded to go that far. Straight up stupid.

>>41445030
That pic is like 6 months and 25 lbs ago.

I do leg work daily. I've explained before but I have essentially nonexistent patellar tendons.

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>>41445056
>The apostles just got voluntarily martyred for some random guy because they were retarded or some shit

>>41445066
>essentially nonexistent patellar tendons.

Do tell.

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>>41445066
if i could no longer squat i would become depressed. it's the only exercise that makes me happy.

>>41445078
Basicly. The natural order of things is seen In almost every society tho wether apostles live or die. Glad they died tho I'd say for my values too. Just not some imaginary frog god. I'll take their values and discard the frog god.
Man support stay st home wife.
Fags are unnatural.

>>41445078
I played high school football and got speared in the knee. Shattered my patella, sent part of it to the reverse of my knee, tore 90% of the cartilege. Other knee developed a lot of stress issues compensating for the 18 month recovery. They've just never been the same since my parents refused surgery for the damage.

I get patellar dislocations about once a month; more often if I attempt leg extensions.

Zerchers 3x a week with daily isometric leg press is at least therapeutic but the damage was fairly severe and there's some nerve damage preventing the neurological connections needed to maintain steady linear progression and tissue growth.

>>41445108
>since my parents refused surgery

what the actual fuck. i know health care can probably bankrupt you in america but i wouldn't hesitate for a second it it was my kid.

>>41445126
My father has had 12 back surgeries and is filled with plates, cages, disks, and screws. It's reasonable for him to not want to put me under that duress as a 16 yo.

He's half machine at this point and I don't dismiss his judgment.

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>>41445095
>Just not some imaginary frog god

Again, you think the apostles just got them voluntarily killed because they just wanted to keep this funny joke that this Jesus guy actually did rise from the dead to piss off the Romans.

I usually stay away from Biblical or Canonical arguments anyway tho unless I'm arguing another pseudo-Christian.

>"Judge not" Crusader teehee
>THE VERSE DOES NOT MEAN TO NOT JUDGE PEOPLE YOU DUMB FUCKING CUNT I'LL FUCKING STONE YOU, YOU FUCKING VAPID CUNTING WHORE.

Chicks like this
>>41442489
Who wear a crucifix and label themselves Christians to be trendy since atheism is the default now.

>>41445108
So, how can you walk now?

>>41445160
Like 2 years of physical therapy. They had to reset the patella itself and set it in place. The soft tissues are what took forever and still give me an issue. There's still crepedice and my patellar tendon is a wet noodle; you can shift it back and forth essentially out of the groove.

>>41445183
Sounds like a shitty thing to live with.

>>41445187
Nah football is amazing

>>41445190
Gross.

I was skelly and uncoordinated in highschool, still uncoordinated and skelly. Never played sport, ditched school on athletics day and sports carnivals to go play video games at a friends house.

Played chess as my chosen sport. Was actually fun.

Been running test-e and tren-e. I'm currently on for about 20 weeks. This morning after my workout I started to vomit. Is it possibly a side effect of the tren? I also sleep badly on the tren. Waking up a lot and sweating.

I feel like a pressure on the right side of my chest, and after that I started to feel sick.

>>41445232
vomiting is caused my low blood sugar, you probably pushed yourself too hard

>>41445232
My policy with tren is if I start to feel like shit I stop running tren. Keeps things simple, keeps me in good repair. I always start feeling like shit around the 8-10 week mark.

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>tfw hangover shits are killing me

Shits fucked brehs

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>>41445256
>tfw can count the amount of times drunk on one hand
>tfw haven't had an alcoholic beverage in over two years

Pathetic.

>>41445140
Plenty of people have died for stupid shit that doesn't even matter dude c'mon that's bot a point. A bet you some dumb ass right now has probably died over Allah or a,bag of chips.

>>41445183
How'd that happen? Growing to fast? HAHA LANKLETS.

>>41445397
Not addressing the point.

Jesus left behind no possessions and no power vacuum. There was no reason for The Apostles to spend the next precious decades of their life in persecution, poverty and being martyred for some random guy who is now dead. What was their reward? Nothing. The guy is dead and didn't have magical powers.

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Welp just vomited into the sink. Luckily nothing from yesterday came up just the apple i ate.

>>41445501
Why is your sink black desu?

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>>41445505
Because its a stylish pre made set

>>41445517
Those are some hideous tiles. Countertop is okay.

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>>41442489
>>41442489


can i inject in the same glute i may have had an abscess in? it's gone down (it never really swelled up, it was red for a few days) and isn't sore or anything


same poster as
>>41442489
>>41442489

>>41445778
You can. However I wouldn't recommend sticking needles and solutions into an already infected area.

>>41445820
I mean I'm not sure if it was even an abscess, could have been a pimple. Very tiny, almost like an insect bite. It's about 1cm across max, so if I inject a few cm away I should be good, right?

>>41445448
There was no reason some dumb nigger gets killed cause he owed another monkey a bag of chips. People die pointless deaths all the time. Cultist suicides to nibiru and jihadists are probably a better example.

>>41445830
Just rotate sites to let it completely heal. Don't risk it.

>>41445846
Okay, so explain why the apostles willingly martyred themselves for Christ when all they had to do was simply renounce him and go back to being normal?

>There was no reason some dumb nigger gets killed cause he owed another monkey a bag of chips
Yes there is. Niggers and gang culture promote and place violence on a pedestal. Respect and credibility is given to the attacker if he kills someone. That is their perceived reward.

> Cultist suicides
Cultist suicide is done through peer pressure and vulnerability. Take the Jonestown Massacre, the audio tape shows many people not wanting to actual die but they allow it to happen anyway, sort of a Bystander Effect. Also cultist suicide is usually done in group pacts and NRMs don't usually last past the original generation of members. The apostles were individually martyred, not suicidal.

> jihadists are probably a better example.
They believe they are dying for a greater reward, it's still not pointless. Although it's invalid compared to Christianity because Mohammad left behind the Caliphate. The most pious Muslims in his inner circle would inherit a very great earthly reward when he died. That is what perpetuated early Islam.

Ok guys, about to do my first cutting stack after 2 previous bulking stacks.

Week 1 - 1.5: 200mg DNP ED
Week 1 - 5.5: 30mcg Superdrol ED
Week 1.5 - 5.5: 80mcg Clen ED
Week 2 - 5.5: 25mg ED

(yes i know its oral only, yes i know about the liver shit, yes yes yes)

Followed by PCT with Nolvadex.

Already on keto diet, but going full carb deplete 3 days before starting DNP, then upping carbs to 33/33/33 card/prot/fat, then low carbs again after DNP up until end.

Stats:
85 kg
1.75m
Around 15% bf.

>>41446010
Sorry, week 2 - 5.5 is proviron 25mg ED

>>41445930
I think the jihadist explanation pretty much accurately describes the apostles.
They genuinely believed what they believed a d died for it. Many such cases. I mean it's nice and all its honorable. Doesn't make their beliefs true though. Thats where I lose you.. You can't prove a literal conscious life after death exists where it's just heaven and hell and that Jesus died so your soul may be saved. That just boils down to faith at the end of the day.
The universe is too big for such a tiny purpose.

>>41446010
>(yes i know its oral only, yes i know about the liver shit, yes yes yes)

If you know the liver shit why are you doing it?

>>41446138
>They genuinely believed what they believed a d died for it.

And why would the apostles believe that this random guy is genuinely God incarnate if he never completed any miracles, never claimed to be God and never rose from the dead?

>>41446142
Honestly its because my gym partner doesnt want to pin, and we are doing the stack together to compare.

Other than that, it seems to be pretty solid, or no?

>>41446149
Cause they're gullible and people need something greater than themselves to believe in. Happens everyday. Just like how Muslims fanatically believe Mohammed was the prophet of God and the quoran is the truth. Same shit.

You can't prove any of those fairy tales at the end of the day is was by word of mouth and tbere could be msny countless explanations for the "miracles" I would argue they were metaphors. Like making a "blind" person see. See the truth. Etc. Who knows. But taking it literaly is just crazy.

>>41446158
It'll give you the results you're after but at a very big cost that's not worth it. You're not running any test, sdrol will shut you down, running sdrol for 5.5 weeks is going to be extremely harsh on your liver.

Combine the sides of DNP, Sdrol and no test. You're going to feel like fucking death and hurt your body in the process.

Overall, would not recommend and would not do it myself. Tell your friend to stop being a massive fucking pussy.

>>41446158
Like perhaps they started off as metaphors or philosophical explanations then people who weren't actually there started taking them literaly.
For instance I could convince someone we are immortal. And that were all sons of God. Because life and energy comes from somewhere. This beautiful architecture of an existence surely has a code to it somewhere and being it's creations we're all sons of God, And that when we die we will live on forever for energy can't be destroyed nor created but change forms. The theory of multiple dimensions also serves as a hope of life after death. But to a nigger brain or non critical thinking mind I could see why theyd interpret it a little more literally. I believe Jesus came to tell us something along tbese lines. Basucky a very wuse man, but retards took it too far lol.

>>41446175
>Cause they're gullible and people need something greater than themselves to believe in.

That's not an explanation. They're gullible based on what? The Apostles themselves had livelihoods, friends and family. They weren't vulnerable retarded hippies looking for an easy way out. They already had strong faith before Jesus and knew they would achieve salvation.

They had everything to lose by following some ex-carpenter hippie who did nothing according to you.

>Just like how Muslims fanatically believe Mohammed was the prophet of God and the quoran is the truth.

Muslims believe the Qu'ran is truth because Mohammad built an empire and became extremely strict and paranoid later in life. Only those who displayed totally and utter devotion to him and his word as being the word of God could score a chance at inheriting massive power and wealth. The subsequent Caliphs also spread faith this way, through greed.

>you can't prove any of those fairy tales at the end of the day is was by word of mouth and tbere could be msny countless explanations for the "miracles" I would argue they were metaphors

My proof is the fact that they willingly martyred. You don't martyr yourself for a deadbeat carpenter hippie.

>>41446185
Appreciate the response, thanks.
Would it be better if we only ran Sdrol till around week 4?
Should we wait a few days after DNP before jumping straight onto Clen?

>>41446274
The biggest scrap I have with it is that you're not running any test.

Everything else is relatively fine as long as your supporting your liver.

>>41446249
People have martyred themselves for their faiths plenty of times though. Buhddist monks for example it happens. Thats a flimsy and very delicate thing to say that's all the proof you need imo its not enough, not even close to enough proof. But what ever man. I'd rather live in a Christian not degenerate society than what we currently hsbe. Fundamental Christianity is where it's at. And beautiful feminine motherly women in dresses are hot (and can be slutty too). I married a preacher's daughter.

T. Old black and white first Baptist fundamentalist.

>>41446281
Ill see what I can do to convince him, thanks.

Test P im assuming would be best?

>>41446286
>People have martyred themselves for their faiths plenty of times though

Yeah and? It's the specific circumstances surrounding the martyrdom that matter.

Explain how Buddhist martyrdom is an equal comparison to Apostle martyrdom. Because they're not the same and not equal. Buddha never displayed any divine traits.

>not even close to enough proof.
Why not. It's firm circumstantial evidence that Christ displayed divine traits.

>>41446307
For a cut, yes.

>>41446330
Its an urban legend bro a myth and at the end of the day faith is all that can get you to believe such wild tales Faith alone.

>>41446369
>Its an urban legend bro a myth
Then explain the Apostle's martyring themselves you retarded nigger.

>at the end of the day faith is all that can get you to believe such wild tales Faith alone.
Nice cop out and completely avoiding the evidence.

>>41446337
Thanks for the help!
Ive still got some 250mg/1ml Test C, so might add that.
250mg weekly.

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>>41446380
Thryre retarded thats why.
They believed what they did cause they're stupid goat herding cave men. And the cult they followed actually made a name for themselves and destabilise alot of shit in the region which made their movement all the more hyped up and believable. Those miracles weren't real tho or were ear by ear stretched out metaphors hyped up by fanaticism and a cult following.
It's that simple. Anything else is just hardcore arguing a defensive point to hold on to such a wild belief. And I understand that. You'd be left hopeless and without direction if not for your faith unable to exercise your own will. I grew up around first Baptist people until I basicky moved out and went to church every Sunday until I was 17. Unknown your kind. You're just scared and need direction.

its so annoying for my favourite trip to also be a religious fucktard

NEVERWIN

>>41446496
Sure buddy. That's a lot of assumptions.

>They believed what they did cause they're stupid goat herding cave men
So your entire argument hinges on the fact that you think the Apostles were stupid. Okay so give me the evidence that the Apostles were objectively stupid and that stupidity is directly what led to them just completely believing in some random guy was the Son of God.

>And the cult they followed actually made a name for themselves and destabilise alot of shit in the region which made their movement all the more hyped up and believable
Why would they form such a thing in the first place? What do they benefit out of it?

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>>41446527
>my favourite trip
AWWW!
>a religious fucktard
aww...

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>barely lost anything 2 days ago -> yesterday
>lost nothing today despite eating like nothing and 45 mins of cardio
>soon 2 weeks on dnp
Yeah no I'll probably just quit, stabilize then maybe try again in a few weeks. This is going nowhere fast.

>>41446576
post pics you fat tub of worthless shit

>>41446576
You're gonna fucking die.

>>41446587
Like 5 times I said I will (might) when I'm done. You meant to say quit?
>>41446597
Elaborate? Implying I won't make a second cycle?

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>>41446608
>Elaborate? Implying I won't make a second cycle?

>DNP
>Eat nothing
>Cardio
If you do that, you're going to die.

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>>41446650
>implying
Evidently not, lest I wouldn't be typing this.

>>41446676
You're creating bad habits desu. Starvation isn't the way to go neither is massive amounts of cardio on DNP.

>inb4 berating bad habits whilst taking steroids

>>41446686
There are bad habits and then there are retarded habits.

Fair enough steroid are a bad habit but preventative measures can be taken to lessen the 'bad' effects

Where as hes just making everything worse

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>>41446686
Well I spent jan-may this year doing a low-cal diet and cardio at the end of each workout, and it only led me to where I was at the start of this suicide cut (read still fucking fat, you will see soon), while sacrificing lots of potential gains for some small amounts of fat loss. What a fucking colossal waste of time. Which is why two weeks ago I said fuck it, got me some dnp and started losing weight for reals by all means combined.
I dont mind being musclefat but I wanted to try slimness at least once.

>>41446734
Run us through your diet and exercise from Jan-May

>dont worry I amnt going to bully you, yet, it seems we may actually have to help you before you tard yourself to death

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>>41446734
Take it easy dipshit otherwise you'll end up as thin as Zyzz

>My favourite webm of Anzu in my collection, just look at her. Oh my fuck.

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>>41446751
dunno what exactly you want to know
>exercise
pretty standard PPL on test and tren, about 4 times a week. every session ended with cardio because
>food
tried to stick with high protein low cal diet, including lots of yummie raw ground beef and cottage cheese out of the box for variance. who needs cooking?

I really believed I could lose fat and get gains from lifting+cardio+highprot,lowcal diet+frauds, and I probably did but only small gains and lost a small amounts of fat. In hindsight I should just have went all out on the bulk and either not cared about the fat or then do this suicide cut for much better results.

>>41446757
I just for once wanted to rid of that lower belly tire fat ;__;' yet even after all this lost weight it's still there and I realise I shouldn't care, unless I decide to make a follow-up cycle. hmm...

>>41446824
You'll get there. Just be patient.

>>41446824
>about 4 times a week
About?

and how many cal were your intake each day.

See this makes me believe you a) werent working hard enought and b) not paying any fucking attention to what you were eating

And these are the reasons you fail

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>>41446858
>About?
Yes, liftan isn't my highest prio. Sometimes there was papers to be done, labs and shit. Sometimes there were nothing else to do and I did more than 4 workouts a week. Kapish?
I only count proteins and not cals because I'm not an inefficient nerd. When I care about calorie intake I don't eat more than necessary while meeting the protein quota.
>bluhhhghh you aren't working out hard enough
rrrright which is why I was a fuckton bigger and stronger last year when I ate whatever. The problem obviously for the jan-may failure is obviously the diet and for not counting my food properly, I'm not stupid. But I'd rather go for bulk and cut periods than counting my food contents like an autist.
see I solved my own 'problem', anything you'd like to add?

>>41446831
thanks bre

>>41446472
250 will be more than enough for a cut, you can probably get away with 150-200mg ew

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>Always remember
>A fallen solider
>Always remember
>Fathers and sons at war

>Always remember
>A fallen solider
>Always remember
>Fathers and sons at war

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>tfw Mum is worried about me
>"You don't go out and see people very often since you left [ex-gf]. You have friends, go see them. I'm worried you're going to get sick again like last time."
>>"We've drifted too far apart, I don't have very much in common with them anymore."
>"Well how about join a club or find a hobby to meet new friends? There's got to be tons of things on at uni."
>>"That costs money and gives me too much anxiety."
>"Anon...please. I'll pay for you. You need something outside of Church and gym. What about language classes? You like languages."
>>"Yes but nope. I'm not happy with myself as a person yet so I think it would be too hard to have other people be happy with me."
>"Anon please, for me."
>>"Later, I promise."

Feels good to have a loving mother. Cosy feels. But I feel bad, she really wants me to be more social but I can't.

>>41447639
Tell her is she really cared about you she'd help you fuck her hot freinds.

>>41442443
> What about cardio health tho longterm?
Testosterone doesnt impair cardio. EQ improve it.

>>41447639
>tfw mr holy and not of this world Christian trip isn't even married yet and likes loli despite being a good Christian

Are you 19 lmao you sound young. You can't even support yourself but claim to understand the world and it's secrets granted to you by Jehovah himself.

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>>41447658
I don't like MILFs. Plus that's a sin.

>>41447685
but sin is so jolly good!

n who says you have to like what you fuck...

>>41447675
>You can't even support yourself

Are you one of those weird cunts that don't visit their mum on mother's day and thinks a phone call is good enough or something?

I live with a non-immediate family member (plus housemates), so word of my reclusiveness gets around.

>>41447685
Not listening to mummy is a sin

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>>41447694
That's just self-rape then.

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>>41447710
So is taking a dick in the ass but you still manage.
faggot

>>41447725
and rape is fun

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>>41447763
This is Crusader †™ not jerry

>>41442574
FUCKING THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>come home from gym
>check out pumped look in mirror
>looking fucking asthetic, thick, solid, tight
>"damn gotta take a picture with this sick pump"
>review pic
>WTF

i hate it.

>>41446757
fuark post more

>>41447660
> EQ improve it.

Pls explain.

>>41444038
is this anon b8ing? alex was 5'11" a few months ago

>>41447744
Why do you like talking about people taking dicks so much

>>41447979
Because I'm a repressed homosex obviously.

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been on psmf for 5 days now boys down from 262 to 255.

i thought that it was going to get bad like everyone says it does and be hungry all of the day and feel like total shit.

maybe the test i'm on keeps me energized and full of power/sexual energy

still unsure what i should eat for my refeed meals any tips would be good

>>41447970
Try Google

>>41448003
How fat are you?

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>>41448014
I want to be spoon fed.

>>41447999
>Trips of truth

Is that why you go to church?

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>>41448015

I started my weight loss at around 340 ish about 2 years ago and lost a majority of it doing straight keto and got down to 230 and never touched a barbell or did any cardio sans working as a dishwasher.

then i figured i'd lost enough and reintroduced carbs into my diet and started working out more. i reverted back to my fat as fatass ways and started to eat everything again and balooned back up to 270. did keto again the past few months and it didn't really work out.

decided on doing PSMF last wednesday so i can get back down to 230 and maybe surpassing my goal to get to 200lbs by the end of summer so i can finally start bulking and love (hate) myself again.

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>>41448044
Of course. Perfect cover up, I mean what gay man would ever go to a Catholic Church or even become a devout member?

>>41448053
How tall? It seems like you didn't cut enough the first time.

>>41448073
5'11 my mans

>>41448086
You didn't cut enough. I recommend prawns if you can afford them for psmf.

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How many IU hcg do I need for PCT at the end of a 24 week test/eq cutting cycle

>>41448106
i can afford them i just don't prefer them

my daily diet is as follows

2 tilapia filets & 1 cup broccoli for breakfast
1 cup of fat free cottage cheese preworkout
2 scoops of on whey post workout in water
3/4 cup of liquid egg whites & 1 cup broccoli for lunch
6 oz of chicken breast and 1 cup broccoli for dinner
maybe another chicken breast before bed if i'm really hungry

my macros end up being:

830 cals
152g protein (184g if i have another chicky breast)
30g carbs
12g fat

i could potentially cut the carbs down if i omitted the cottage cheese but i eat it preworkout and i'm fairly certain i burn through them doing my routine.

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>>41448176
> preworkout cheese

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>>41448176
Seems fine desu.

>>41448060
loads of them.

Like so so sooooooo many of them

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>>41448217
No way. Never would have guessed.

>>41448235
I know, never hear anything about it either

Are there any differences in low libido from low e2 vs high e2?

Its the only symptom I've had on test e so far. Low sensitivity and weak erection in the morning. Improves somewhat by nighttime.

>>41448268
Sounds like high E2.

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I am on a test-e and EQ cycle, so I plan ending my cycle by

1. taking the last pin of EQ as normal
2. transitioning from test-e to test-p
3. starting PCT when all EQ is out of my body

How should I go about switching from enanthate to prop, and how long after last dose of EQ should I begin PCT?

bonus question: should I bother with HCG on this 24 week cycle? It's 550 test 650 EQ. So nolva and clomid with or without HCG? Will it be worth it to add HCG?

>>41448314
low*

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>>41448268
Higher than average e2 alwayd gave me high libido but weak erections. If your e2 is low or crashed your dick wont work your joints will hurt and you'll feel as if you had a cold or some shit

>>41448337
Morning wood is a sign of low E2 dough.

>>41448337

Yeah libidos definitely still high. I was actually noticing some clicking in my joints but no pain. hard to tell though. It might have always been there and I'm just noting now that I'm looking for symptoms

>>41448907
>>41448907
>>41448907
>>41448907

>>41441942

>coalburners

disgusting