/fat/ Fatty Fatty 2x4 General

I wanna buy a bunch of snacks to permanently tempt my willpower. Is this a retarded idea?

>>41231996
One of the most retarded things I've ever heard.

You'll just end up eating them, fatty.

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>>41231996
Yes. I've done that experiment many times. It only ended up with me binging. If you're gonna buy tempting snacks, buy a small enough amount that it wont sink your weekly progress. Like, when Im craving sweets, I buy two large bars of dark chocolate. Even if I binge, that 800 calories of damage max. As opposed to the 6000 that I usually put away.

Also post em
>tfw comfortably under yet full as fuck

Can I overdo it on beans and sweetcorn? I had a bunch with my leaf greens, I know it's not a lot of calories but I feel like I should avoid temptation because a whole tin of beans/sweetcorn is not like other vegetables.

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>>41232033
Had to have what I call QT dinner yesterday cuz I was on the go. Not terrible macros, but I could do better. Better than fast food.

>>41231996
I have a 3lb thing of peanuts from costco, about the most dangerous calorie-rich thing imaginable. No disasters yet, but I really regret buying it.

>>41231854
how do i drink only water?
seriously after a few sips im sick of it.

>just checked my weight
>202 lbs.
>5'9 manlet
Fucking kill me.

>>41232005
I have a bar of chocolate that's been in my fridge for months, and a cupboard full of cookies, peanuts and other snacks.
Those are for my scheduled cheat days and I don't touch them otherwise.

>>41231996
>buy snacks
>tell yourself you'll save them for tomorrow
>next day repeat step 2

procrastination does wonders

Kind of a dumb question but is it possible I'm going too far on my diet? My day is usually like this:

Lunch of protein and vegetables, around 200 calories of protein, 200-300 vegetables. Dinner around the same. 300 calorie snack. Thing is I don't track calories and there's a good chance the vegetables are more like 100-200, and I'm only eating about 1000 calories a day at 215lbs. I am dropping shit loads of weight but I'm starting to feel a bit weird, my hand went dead today at random and I keep getting dizzy.

>>41232057
You'll get used to it. Get a refillable water bottle. I used to despise water, now I drink at least 72oz, when before Id drink that in maybe a month's time.. Wean yourself off of juices and the like by watering them down. Start with a 3:1 ratio and work your way down to 1:3

>>41232068
>5'9 and 217lbs
>started at fucking 300lbs+
You're not even that fat.

>>41232077
it seems like your going under 1500 calories
your starving
eat more.

>>41232094
Can you go into more detail?

>>41232057
Nigga do you want loose skin?

I drink like 120+oz a day. Just man up.

>>41232111
basically, you eat 500-800 cal under your TDEE
you seem to be eating less than 1500 cal
You should never do that, your body thinks yours starving and is slowly loosing function
dont eat too low
>>41232124
>man up
ignore all the modern cool beverages that exist for one thats been around forever? man that sounds great.
also i pretty much never drink water besides at work.

>>41232111
Not that anon, but he's right.

1. Track your calories in more detail
2. Determine your TDEE
3. There is no such thing as starvation mode, but you can under-eat macro and micro nutrients
4. Start taking a multi-vitamin to shore up any nutrient deficiencies
5. I am 288 and eat around 1k calories a day, my hand has never just randomly gone numb
6. If that happens again, you need to see a doctor.

>>41232159
>>41232144
Thanks, it might just be my body reacting to the new diet though, as I eat plenty of shit just not the calories I used to. This diet is a lot more extreme with basically no carbs besides the snacks, but I'll make sure to be careful.

>>41232144
>your body thinks yours starving and is slowly loosing function

The number at which this happens is different for every person. I'm 288, I have tons of fat for my body to burn, and I eat 1000-1100 calories a day for 2.5 months, zero issues.

>all the modern cool calories in a can that will never satiate your appetite
Never gonna make it with that attitude.

>>41232177
How long have you been doing it?

Also, don't diet. You can go off diets. Work toward changing your lifestyle. This may seem like semantics, but 80% of this fight is going to be mental.

>>41232144
I mean it depends on what your doing.

Soda and alcohol is shit you should be avoiding for just normal health but even more so for losing weight.

If your a big tea person you can always do that, what I used to do is make like a gallon of crystal light and just drink from that and then after some time I got sick of it but still like having the water there drink on from time to time just as something to do so I stopped adding the packets of tea.

>>41232198
Oh I know, I've just been doing this current "diet" a week. By diet I basically mean new lifestyle. This is all I eat every day now. It was just creeping up before and I lost no weight for a month, so I hardened the diet up a lot.

>>41232182
just wish i could enjoy food again
i ate my chicken but all this brocoli and carrots are going in the trash probably. dont even want to eat it.
>>41232203
isnt there low/no calorie teas that taste good? i tried green tea and its ass.

>>41231996
what the point of this even is

>lost 2.6 lbs this week
>16 since mar 30th
feels good man

>>41232057
I was like you before. You get used to it

>>41232244
I understand why he's thinking about it. I've done it, its kind of like fully submerging yourself in a cold pool. Face the maximum amount of temptation, if you can resist, then you're cured of your binge eating problem(hypothetically). I don't know if it works because I always lose.

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>>41232236
Make iced tea. Sucralose is great. Unless you're one of those people that wants to give up sweet things even if they're legit 0 calories.

>>41232264
giving up sweet things is probably better long term

Also i meant like drinking a bunch of weird sounding tea names.im an amerifat and im only ever had green tea and sweet tea.

Was thinking about crawling by a mall tomorrow and looking for a scale

Any do's and don'ts for that purchase?

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>>41232236
I guess it's down to taste but personally this is what I used to use.

>>41232262
sounds fucking retarded

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How long does it take to acquire a taste for broccoli? Shit is so fucking gross.

>>41232314
I'm sorry man

It don't get no better

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How many calories you lads think this is? It weighs .83-lbs

>>41232314
i usually just pepper it or just shove it down my gullet
im starting to think i cant like food anymore.

>>41232293
Tea is tea. "Brewed beverages" are different. If you want to drink "lemongrass tea" just keep in mind it's not actually tea. There's really only black tea and green tea. Anything else is just a blend and mixture of different strains and different plants all together. For example, look up what Earl Grey tea is.

>>41232314
I'll let you know when I acquire a taste for eggs.

>>41232314
Try spinach. There are plenty of options for "volume greens" brocolli is just the meme.

>>41232057
I didn't understand how can someone only drink water either, now I don't understand how I could've been drinking anything else

You've been used to sweetened sugary shit forever, once your taste returns to normal you won't be able to touch that crap

>>41232314
are you eating it cooked or raw? i like it better raw personally, its crunchy and got a slight "zing" to it. its not that bad man. but maybe i'm used to healthier foods because even though my parents are fat and enabled me to overeat on snacks and junk food, i still had plenty of healthy home cooked meals growing up like chicken breast, turkey burgers, salmon, with vegetables, rice, etc.

give these a try if you can find them at your supermarket, they're a good size portion, barely any calories, and the sauce is pretty flavorful.

https://www.greengiant.com/products/detail/green-giant-steamers-broccoli-cheese-sauce-10-oz-box/

i also like the brussels sprouts in butter sauce from this same line

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>>41231854
going to the grocery store tomorrow
tell me what you guys normally eat
getting sick of my typical shit

>breakfast
usually cereal and milk
>lunch
Turkey sandwitches and some fruit maybe
>diner
grilled chicken and veggies with skim milk

>>41232346
Dude fuck eggs I hate that shit.

But not liking broccoli is something I never heard of, I can eat a huge fucking bowl of just broccoli and a lil salt. Fuck using butter or cheese just fucking straight up is 10/10.

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I started dieting and doing cardio on January 3rd and as of today I'm down to 205 pounds from somewhere near 275 pounds (6'0" btw). My original goal was to get down to 180 lbs although now I'm all paranoid over the loose skin meme. My skin definitely feels loose and there's a lot of stretch marks but other than some wrinkly areas on my lower abdomen it hasn't really manifested yet. Should I stick to my original goal and then do strength training?

>>41232357
I don't know how to cook spinach and with broccoli all you do is throw that shit in the oven

>>41232363
how long does that normally take?

Officially SIXTY FIVE lbs down, boys

Started in September @ 312, now 247, 5'11 eternal manlet btw. We're all gonna make it

>>41232378
Andrew is that you?

>>41232371
eggs and turkey bacon are good breakfast foods. you could try salmon or other fish to switch up your dinners

>>41232314
I used to dislike broccoli too, then I turned 13

>he's not on DNP

LOL

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>>41232378
here's a picture from the side

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>>41231854
What are some good veggies that no one talks about?

Ie how is eggplant? ive never had it and im curious.

>>41232380
That's probably why you hate it so much desu. Don't be afraid to try new things or sacrifice 200 calories by using olive oil. Google some simple broccoli recipes and tips. Same for spinach. Or try cabbage, throw half a head in a pot with two strips of bacon.

>>41232373
I know, man. I got lite salt for dat dere potassium and I'll just sit there and eat salted broccoli to fill up when I'm feeling hungry.

>>41232378
>>41232412
Did you get beat up at Berkeley?

>>41232407
My room mate just started that.

>>41232417
brussels sprouts are underappreciated

>>41232417
I have it in dishes at restaurants sometimes. I think it is pretty tasty. One place I go serves it with a veal meatball-like substance inside of it.

>>41232371
Alright, buy a pack of turkey bacon and a dozen and a half eggs, There's breakfast, buy an onion and some green bell peppers to use as filler, it goes in almost every meal you could think of making, it's nearly invisible and it helps with satiation. You can make an omelette with some cheese and sour cream, frittatas, with that deli ham you always buy. For dinner, make some slow cooker fajiates, you already buy the chicken and veg, just buy a can of tomatoes with chiles and some fajita mix if you can't make your on. Dont add any water, and train the tomatoes. Serve over rice or with spinach. Buy a big bag of rice and a bag of beans. Its cheap and it'll last you a long time. Idk about lunch, i don't eat that shit nigga lmao.

>>41232071
>get home
>all food is frozen
>i am tired after 10-12h of work
>say Ill eat in the morning
How to eat under 1000kcal 101

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>>41232293
>giving up sweet things is probably better long term

Yeah look at this shit, literal poison.

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>go to work
>keep track of my calories simply because I dont have time to eat much
...
>have a day off
>bored as fuck
>go out and buy a bunch of shit
>5000 calories
my life in a fucking nutshell, i eat cause im bored. i really need friends.

>>41232539
just do shit dude

i've managed to fight through hours of hunger just by playing videogames the whole time, matches after matches of csgo or league of legends, or getting really into some single player game, and i can forget about being hungry

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>>41232530
I know you think you're being cute, but fruit is almost entirely empty carbs. There are very few fruits that give you nutrition to match the amount of calories you get. Most modern fruits are bred to be as sweet and big as possible.
>fruits are good for you

You're soccer-mom as fuck, bruh.

>>41232384
I'd just grab two bottles instead of one, one of water and one of whichever crap I used to drink and place them next to eachother on my desk. Whenever I was thirsty I just picked one up to drink without thinking about it. Soon enough my bottle of sugary shit stayed there full and I just kept getting more bottles of water.

Could've been maybe a month, I wasn't even going to /fit/ yet or trying to do something about myself at that time, so if you're actually putting some effort in it'll probably take less than that.

5'10 295
I do cardio or lift 3-4 times a week but have a pretty sedentary job
Tdee calculates to 3700cal
That seems huge to me

>>41232552
that's the problem. i cant play video games, back when i was able to play 10 hours straight i wouldnt even think about food but now that i've lost interest in all my hobbies it's a fucking nightmare, i sit in front the pc all day and just wank and eat. working is like a blessing for me.

>>41232587
You're wrong and a retard, case dismissed.
Go read up on something other than your favorite keto blog.

>>41232590
i remember i have periods of quitting soda but i instead replaced it with sweet af tea, probably why i eventually went back to soda

Also its hard in my house since my fatass family likes to go through 5 2liters a day (no joke)

>>41232587
KeTURD spotted :)

>>41232595
Study imcreasingly hard shit senpai.
Same here.

>tfw started studying solidworks cobol and underwater coms because of hunger and because fuck uni

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>>41232601
>>41232615

Any advice for lunch when I work out of my car? I would love to have chicken breast and broccoli most days but I have no where to heat it up

>>41231996
I did that. Big bag of Costco chocolate almonds. Your mind doesn't forget, the temptation to eat them is ever present, nagging, CMON bro, just 2 SCOOPS, don't eat them all, we have self control. Just a few. It's OK.


No its not, I ate them all

>>41232663
So eat it cold, princess.

>>41232595
>i sit in front the pc all day and just wank and eat
I've been in that vicious cycle for so long

Go nofap, seriously. Try it for atleast a few days, you'll feel different. It's the thing that finally broke me and made me do something about myself.

Fug mates, I just had a slip up

Fucking let myself buy a donut from the bakery at the end of every week

I walked away with four

I don't know what the fuck happened

It's like being fucking possessed. The cravings took control.

so weak

>>41232751

That's like me except with alcohol. Who /stopdrinking/ here? Any tips?

>>41232594
Always put in sedentary.

>>41232407
This meme needs to stop.

>>41232388
Good work, dummy.

>>41232296
Food scale or human scale? Just hit up a wally world and grab a cheap one. The number is less important than whats in the mirror.

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>>41232765
Me. It's hard. I can't hang out with friends anymore since they're all drunks like me.

It's a struggle.

My name has Beer in it in like half the games I play online. Can't even play games to get my mind off it.

Just look at how much fun she's having.

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How effective is eating maintenance + cardio to lose weight?

I can squat 3pl8 but I got fat because I fell into the lmao """bulking""" meme. Mehdi recommends eating maintenance and adding cardio during lifting days. Has anyone of you any experience with this?

>>41232765
Drink licor to avoid calories.

When you're with friends have a beer with them (so you don't look like a tryhard-fedora-fag) but drink slowly. When they ask "are you still with the same beer?" you say "nah, this is my third one" or "I feel stuffed" or any other excuse. Easy.

For the guys cutting between 1200-1500 cal how much grams of chicken breast you usually eat? Just wondering what's a good serving size.

>>41232937
Fuck do you really have to justify your lack of beer consumption your bros? Fuck maybe I should be happy Im a lonely autismo

>>41232947

I eat ~1500/day which is supposedly 1000 under TDEE, dinners usually include anywhere from 8-12oz of chicken so 2-3 servings

>>41232947
Nigger go ahead and slam half a pound. Its like 120cals per 4oz serving, and you can flavour and moisten it up for less than 100 cals, easy. Go nuts.

>>41232937

Doesn't liquor have a ton of calories too? Also, the next day I'm hung over and binge on shitty food ;_;

>>41232765
The gamechanger for me was actually counting the calories I was taking in from alcohol. I was getting chubby but thought "Oh, I drink coke zero and rum, no beer, no sugary mixers, it can't be that much." Well I was actually drinking 16+ oz. of 80 proof rum nightly, or 1024+ calories. No fucking wonder I put on weight.

So I started tracking exactly how many ounces I was drinking, and drinking strategically to minimize the amount needed to achieve the desired effect. Empty stomach, drink quickly, and only have enough booze/mixer on hand for the amount of calories in my budget for the evening. A beer nursed over an hour is a waste of calories. Hard liquor drank quickly gets you hammered at the highest rate per calorie.

>>41232994
Stop drinking then, alkie

>>41232314

Broccoli is great but school/parents can do it wrong. Either steam it for a few minutes then add a little salt or soy sauce or stir-fry it in small pieces over a really hot heat with some chili for about the same time. Needs to still have a solid, crunchy texture.

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>>41232993
>>41232974
And this is being weighted before or after cooking

>tfw too retarded for calorie counting

I've been eating only canned tuna because I can't fuck up that way

>>41233004

o-okay

>>41232966
Not really, but social pressure is a dangerous thing. Is like being fat trying to lose weight in a family of fatties. In this case, drinking problems are compounded by a circle of friends built around drinking culture.

>>41232994
For all intents and purposes, alcohol calories don't count.

>>41233023
Before cooking, pro tip, the listed weight is always for the raw weight, EXCEPT FOR BACON. BACON CALORIES DO NOT INCLUDE THE FAT. IF YOU USE THE BACON FAT IN ANOTHER DISH, COUNT THE EXTRA CALORIES.
Don't fuck up. We're all gonna make it

>>41233023

Get a food scale for 5 dollars at walmart and install myfitnesspal on your phone, problem solved

>>41232993
>120cals per 4oz serving

ok is this actually how many calories are in around 100g of chicken breast? online tools claim 100g of chicken breast is 80-160 calories, depending on the one you use.

>>41233038

>alcohol calories don't count

Y?

>>41232314
broccoli is god tier though
>crunchy
>lotsa fiber so easy poops
>filling

I swear I could eat a bowl of salted broccoli every fucking day.

>>41233063
Boneless skinless is typically 120. Thighs are 160. Bone in is a bit more complex, but who tf is eating bone in chicken breast that isn't a apart of a whole chicken?

>>41233066
Your body can't store alcohol calories, but I read somewhere that it slows down fat burning

To be honest, I just have anecdotal evidence to back this up. When I switched from drinking beer to pure vodka keeping my calories in check was easier. I've heard other people say the same. If I recall correctly, Arnold only drank licor.

>>41233085

As a side note,

>2017
>eating chicken breast regularly and not owning a George Foreman grill

Perfectly cooked in 5-7 minutes, it's a game changer

>>41233130
Hell, if were listing essential cooking items, by a rice steamer and a crockpot. Both are affordable even for poorfags, both are essentials for some effortless low calorie meals. Fajita Soup with black beans and corn is a favorite of mine. 400 calories per serving, huge portion sizes.

>>41232055
just throw it away

5'4 girl here I have two questions /fat/ties

1. My BMR is just under 1600 and my TDEE is 1900 and a 300 deficit seems low as fuck so I have been eating like 1200 calories a day? Will I die?

2. I'm going to cross the obese-->overweight threshold probably this Saturday because I've been cutting pretty hard this week. Am I skinny enough to talk to the guy I have a crush on or am I still disgusting and will come off as the desperate fatty?

>>41233183
how are we supposed to know if you're a disgusting fatty without a picture?

>>41233183
No you wont die. Who's been telling you people that you'll die if you eat sub 1500? You're a 5'4 female, you realize that your healthy weight TDEE will be something like 1650, right? 1200 is fine.

>>41233204
Just be assured that I am.

>>41233183
1200 is what normies say a woman should never go below. Probably a lot of margin in that number.

>>41233214
I thought eating below BMR was bad?

>>41231996
I like walking down and looking at the sweets and ice cream at the shops . all the while thinking no to many carbs .

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I've eaten less than 1000 calories the last 4 days now. I know I should eat more but I can't bring myself to do it.

>>41233266
No, eating below BMR is fine. How would anybody ever lose weight on a 300 deficit?

>>41233305
You'll end up binging, stop that.

>>41232417
It's fucking delicious, but you have to prep it right.

Cut off the stem/bottom. Cut it into little pieces then throw it in a container full of salt. Cover in salt, then wait an hour. Individually squeeze out all the juice then store in a fridge container. That way you get out all the nasty juices.

What's left is a fleshy, delicious vegetable, probably the best tasting vegetable.

>>41233308
Then why is BMR talked about so often here? Everyone is always saying you should avoid going under it in these threads is that a meme?

>>41233341
If they are, they're full of shit.

>>41232334
You're an idiot

>be 75 kg 165 cm manlet 2300 maint, cut to 1500
>drop to 65 kg now 1800 maint
What the fuck am I supposed to be eating 1000 now to drop to 55 kg?, I don't think I can desu

>>41233341
From a CICO perspective, it doesn't matter. Where you get in trouble are short girls with very little lean body mass who eat very, very little food to stay under BMR in lieu of exercising and eating a little more. At that point they run the risk of not consuming enough fat to regulate hormones, enough protein to get essential amino acids, and enough vital vitamins and minerals needed for healthy function. If you're eating 1200+ calories but under BMR, that's fine. If you're eating 500 calories a day, you can run into trouble whether it's under your BMR or not, simply because that's not enough food to necessarily guarantee your body is getting what it needs.

>>41232378
why not both jpg

>>41233400
Lift and do cardio. The smaller you get, the less lazy you can afford to be.

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>>41232378
I also worry about loose skin. I know it's going to happen no matter what I do so you just gotta deal with it I guess.

>>41233449
I lift and do cardio 3 times a week for like 1 hr, so I can stay at 1500-1800?

>>41233461
I'm very wary of trying to figure out just how many calories a session of lifting/cardio burns. But what you can do is track and eat very consistently for two weeks, and see if you lose weight. If you do, great. If not, you have to either eat less or move more. Can you do cardio 5 days a week instead of 3? Can you walk on the other two days so you're getting cardio daily, even if some of it is light?

>>41233183
Why do women always fucking ask for dating advice when it's inappropriate and completely irrelevant? Is it because "hey guys gril here giv a10shun pls"? If you are fat, then yes you are too fucking fat to be considered """cute"""

>>41233341
You eat below your BMR to lose weight. You eat above it to gain.

>>41232947
I eat about 400g chicken tiddy on days I eat chicken

>>41233504
>I'm very wary of trying to figure out just how many calories a session of lifting/cardio burns
hope this helps

>http://www.changingshape.com/calculators/calories-burned/

>>41233124
>Your body can't store alcohol calories

But it can store all other calories you ingested while it runs on alcohol.

>>41233612
how do I know the difference between light, moderate, and heavy walking?

>>41233183
Body and face or we can't help you.

>>41233612
Touch much variation/subjective evaluation of light/medium/heavy. This is how you get fats who say "But I go so hard on the elliptical for an hour every day and I'm still fat, CICO doesn't work, set point, HAES!"

>>41233626
it's an extremely bad method of measurement. I would assume "heavy" would mean 3.5+ mph

Why aren't you man enough to take DNP, fatass? Extra pound loss every day guaranteed.

>>41233504
Do you have a Samsung phone? The health app tells you how many calories you burned walking/running.

>>41233673
I don't own a smartphone.

I don't worry about counting the calories from exercise in the same way that I don't worry about trying to figure out exactly how many calories are in a single jalapeno I put into a stir fry. It's probably small enough to even out in the wash. I worry if I counted my exercise calories, I might overcount, then overeat and stall my cut.

>>41233673
I'm an Applefag and my phone somehow counts my steps (I guess off vibration), I average about 8-9,000 steps per day. I think it over estimates though, because it gave me 111 calories extra. I doubt walking would do that.

>>41233673
>>41233809
Clarification:
*MyFitnessPal gave me 111 calories extra, based on the steps from iOS. Not sure how MFP figures how many calories per step.

>>41233660
I enjoy my eye sight

I just want to say that I really appreciate these threads.

I'm handicapped and it's really hard for me to exercise, so just having the motivation to eat better and lose weight is really appreciative. I started in late February and since then have gone from 250 to 215.

This board gets a bad rep, well I guess I don't know the whole of this board since I only go to these threads but all of you are good people. Sure you have the "never gonna make its" but for every one of those, there are at least three good guys.

Thanks, /fat/

>>41233726
How the fuck do you not have a smart phone in 2017?

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Fatty here.
>255lbs 5' 11"

Starting a new plan on Monday. Would start it sooner but I have a 4+ hr exam on Saturday.

Last time I lost a bunch of weight I ate about 1000 calories a day and slept a lot. Felt sick, then bumped it up to like 1200 for months. Got down to 150lbs, but I was weak as hell from like no exercise.

Any way I can go extreme but not waste all my muscles?
>500 calorie deficit lmao

>>41233833
I was in a time vortex around the time when they started being widely adopted by normies. When I got out of the vortex I was too poor to afford one. Now that I have a job and money again, I see what it does to people around me. No thanks. All organisms adapt to their environment. Not all adaptations are beneficial.

>>41233840
I'm sure someone makes good ones, but all the poppyseed cake I've had is always dry.

You've had a lot of swings in weight, huh? I'd say you should just do a pretty typical deficit. Eat 1800 calories for a while on a 16:8 intermittent fast and see how it goes. Keep it low on the carbs and high in fat.

>>41233840
What this >>41233939 anon said.

If your weight is swinging like that (+100 pound changes) those crash diets just don't work for you. Stick to what you'd eat at your ideal body weight and just work out like a maniac. It's better to lose it slowly over the course of a few years than to swing back and forth.

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>ate another pint of Ben and Jerry's again

>>41233840
These extreme swings in weight are likely wreaking hell on your body, my dude. You need to find something sustainable over... the rest of your life. That'd be a lifestyle change, my dude.

So nothing extreme. You need to be gradual, purposeful and intent on not being a rubberbanding fat sack of shit.

>>41233939
His diet advice is good. 1800 kcal is perfect and fasting is pretty wicked. You don't have to keto, but LCHF will make it quicker for you.

>>41234048
Halotop birthday cake, my dude.

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>>41234048
I can't take you seriously with that image anon xD

In news completely the opposite of that, today I have only eaten 1200 calories and I still have 400 to go and I'm not hungry.

This is after a grueling workout earlier. Someone earlier in the thread (maybe yesterday's) said something about feeling the hunger and enjoying the pain. I felt hungry today and thought "yes! this is the fat leaving my body!" and then I wasn't hungry anymore.

>>41234066
even better do what I do and just don't like ice cream.

>>41234085

current stats?

also what program is that..?

also you should not run a negative deficit every day, that is bad 4 u

>>41233939
>16:8 intermittent fast

what does that mean

if I'm skinny fat can I post in this thread?

161 lbs, 5'8, need to make it to 150 before I can clean bulk

>>41234114
16 hours not eating, 8 hours to eat.

You fit your 1800 kcal into that 8 hour window. So you can do a breakfast right away, eat 3.5h later then eat a final meal another 3.5h later.

Water during the 16h break, no sodas or teas. You can do black coffee.

Just google 'intermittent fasting.'

>>41234108
Also valid. I love ice cream, but I love oreos even more. I'd kill you to be able to hork down a sleeve with no consequence.

>>41234121
Keto.

>>41234111
5'10 king of the manlets, 270 pounds but who knows what I'll be tomorrow, keto is like that. Was 288 at my heaviest.

It's cronometer.

>also you should not run a negative deficit every day, that is bad 4 u
Do you know where you are, anon?

Man I don't trust that keto shit. I'm already fat as fuck and well on my way to heart problems slathering butter and cheese on everything doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

I hate keto because I hate vegetables.

would rather just eat the things I like and restrict calories, even if its slower.

>>41234185
Then don't eat vegetables? It's only for fiber and you can supplement your fiber in different ways if you want to occupy a divot of your calories with a fitness fiber or some shit.

>>41234185
The only thing you need from veggies is vitamin K. Everything else you can get from meat and animal products.
>>41234175
But anon, people who go keto usually have better cholesterol profiles than before they started. It's not even broscience, there's lots of documented proof of it.

>>41234185
>>41234273

true but if I'm making changes to my diet that are gonna be sustainable in the long term.. I just don't see keto as long term, I'll never be able to give up carbs.

carbs are love, carbs are life.

>>41233939
My mom makes the greatest poppyseed cake. No nuts and a couple more ounces of oil. I'll post the recipe in a sec.

>>41234300
Keto isnt meant for longterm weight loss, from what I've been told. it's nice to run for a few weeks (I've done it for 4 weeks and saw good results), but giving up sugar and carbs was extremely hard.

>>41234300
>I just don't see keto as long term,
Dubs of truth. I lost 50 lbs on keto. It's fine for what it is but 99% of people will never stick to it long term. It is way to restrictive in this day and age.

Now I just do clean eating and intermittent fasting (oats, rice, chicken, veggies mainly). See great results/constantly satisfied.

>>41231996
If you're fat, chances are you probably lack the kind of willpower it would take to resist those. It's a retarded idea.

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>>41234300
>carbs are love, carbs are life.
Until you're in ketosis for 2 weeks and things you used to eat become sickeningly sweet. I literally can't eat cake without getting sick to my stomach.

I'm not trying to push keto here, because idgaf what you guys eat, but saying it's not long-term is silly. Carbs are a drug, you're just addicted boys.

>>41232039
Just count those calories if you eat it, simple as that.

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Probably the worst place to post this Poppyseed cake recipe, but here it is.

>>41232077
Make sure you're not neglecting micronutrients (zinc, iron, magnesium, b-vitamins etc.). It's common for people to develop short-term deficiencies in one or more of these when on a diet, especially one as low as 1000 cal/day. Eat more vegetables, and a greater variety of them too.

>>41234300
>>41234323
Who the fuck says you have to be on keto long term? Get to your goal weight then start eating at maintenance on a regular diet.

>>41232314
It's delicious, stop overcooking it

Fatass here. 5'10, 250lbs. Started at 310lbs during December. Been mainly doing C25K and cycling when my knee is sore, and eating an average of 1800cals a day.

Anyways, I'm starting to look like a deflated balloon, so I want to start adding weight training to my routine. Got a copy of Starting Strength, and doing my 3rd without tonight. Under nutrition, it recommend eating over 3k, but I'm sure that's for skinny people. Can I stay at my 1800 average, should I eat to stay at my weight, or should I eat a surplus?

Anyone got any experience on this?

>>41232144
>modern cool beverages
nigga 95% of these are garbage. The only time you should be drinking something other than tea, coffee, water, or booze is maybe having a gatorade or some shit IMMEDIATELY after intense exercise.

>>41232236
You are a sugar addict. Green tea doesn't taste like ass if you don't expect everything you drink to be as sweet as candy.

>>41232262
>fully submerging yourself in a cold pool
I don't really see the comparison

>tomorrw will go out drinking for the social gains
>will have to eat 500 cal throughout
the day to keep with all the alcohol

JUST

>>41234492

just drink diet coke and rum or Michelob ultra

if I plan on working out tonight, specifically weight lifting, should I eat before or after?

I've had ~750 calories today and I plan on getting some bone in wings for dinner tonight, so I'll probably end up at 1400-1600 without exercise.

>>41234435
Starting Strength isn't for putting on mass, if you're thinking the muscle growth will offset the fat loss.

But yes, definitely keep your average.

>>41234492
Just ask for diet coke in a glass and act drunk. No one will know.

>>41234657
Eat, give it 30-45 minutes and then go lift.

>>41234671

alright thanks

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Rate me.
(Cals | Fats | Carbs | Protein)

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Progress so far

Officially under obese tier BMI now

>>41234699
Height, weight, age.

>>41234713
Hot damn, son. Good work.

>>41234699
That doesn't add up yo.
Fat 9*53
Carbs 4*100
Protein 73*4
That aint 1730

holy shit phentermine is so based

I literally have to set an alarm to remind myself to eat

>>41234733
Oh shit, our second /fat/ general shill!

Nice! We just need some sips in here and we're square.

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>>41234726
5'11", 181.8, 31.

>>41234730
512 calories' worth of booze :^)

I think I injured my knee while running. It hurts to walk, run and go up stairs, but it's not debilitating. Should I just do 30 minutes of biking every day for the next week and hope it heals?

how do i into keto

>>41234317
pls do

>>41234784
Does it hurt when you step, or just when you bend your knee? If it's when you step, it's an injury due to impact, and you can bike, but in moderation.

I would take a few days off, just in case. Knee injuries are really serious, because they just keep piling up.

>>41234772
Seeing how many calories worth of firewater you people wolf down makes me want to avoid that shite. What the hell is gonna be my vice?

>>41234809
See
>>41234360

>>41234826
It only hurts when I put weight on it and I definitely exacerbated it by doing 2.5 miles today. I don't want to lose my cardio gains so I figured medium-intensity cycling on a stationary bike wouldn't be too bad. I'm afraid of slipping back into bad habits if I take a break

>>41234857
I see. The best thing when recovering from knee injuries is swimming, because of the zero impact. However, not everyone has a swimming club near their house. So the exercise bike will have to do, because of its very low impact on your joints. It probably won't hurt when you're doing the exercise, so pay attention during the next 2 hours after the exercise.

>>41234856
Thanks

>>41234841
Yeah, I really need to take another tolerance break.

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*dies to starvation*

Experiment.
Two men, same height (king of manlets, underling).

One 150lbs (18% body fat) and the other 200lbs (27% body fat).

We only give them water.
Who dies first?

>>41234938
The thin one, I imagine. Has less reserve fuel.

>>41232314
The real mystery is asparagus. Typically I don't mind the taste of stuff but that stuff tricks me and I gag every time

>>41234964
That's what I think, but I saw a survival show where the heavy guy got really tired and couldn't hunt, while the skinny guy still had energy. Though in that case they were eating maybe 400 calories or so a day, so I guess the guy that needs 1800 calories to maintain weight vs 2700 has an advantage in a low food situation.

>tried cutting fat
got addicted to diet coke instead and pretty much turned into a "recomp"now

>>>/r9k/36607171

>>41234938
>150 pounds
>18% body fat

Jesus Christ... is "king of manlets" different in countries where "tall" is 5'8?

>>41235008
Diet and "zero" sodas aren't really that good for diets, because anything with sweeteners (not just refined sugar) will make you hungry as hell.
You should use them to stop drinking soda gradually.

>>41235061
King of manlets, is 5' 11", so their underling would be 5' 10".

Craving versus hunger.

The other day when I fasted, I was simply hungry. I had no specific thing that I wanted to eat. Now I'm hungry but I have a craving where it's something specific that I want to eat. I have to go to the store to get it so I most likely won't but am I overthinking this in that a craving feels more powerful than ordinary hunger?

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I really dont understand why you don't eat as much as you want but do intense workouts. no baby shit, but INTENSE workouts, that means pushing yourself to the max and then pushing yourself more and keep pushing yourself. do football training, boot camp workouts anything and eat as much as you want as long as it's not too bad. I used to eat a lot of food when I would finish working out and then work out after the food went down. I didnt really count calories but instead did intense workouts where I'd collapse from exhaustion. I'm saying eat as much as you want but then work out as much as you eat so you dont gain the weight.

>>41235164
eat as much greens as you want. whenever I get the craving for something sweet I eat an apple, or I eat a spinach salad, a protein bar and I drink a lot of water. water is the life force, act as if you dont drink a gallon of water a day, you'll die. remember a whole gallon a day and you won't get as many cravings

>>41235164
Yes, cravings are an addiction. Hunger is a physiological response.

>>41232314
I don't get this meme. Broccoli tastes fucking awesome. Celery is what tastes like shit.

>>41235164
Yeah, hunger is when your body tells you "You should eat something... anything". Craving is when you remember the taste of something you ate 2 years ago, and want to eat it again.

>>41235236
it tastes like shit dude just like all vegetables

>>41235266
vegetables do taste like shit. anyways I got used to eating small portions again. was hard as hell adjusting when all my siblings and parents eat nothing but junk. 4th week of my diet plan and the cravings are gone.

>>41235196
You try doing INTENSE WORKOUTS, right after consuming 2 large pizzas and a box of poptarts.

>>41235266
guess i replied to the wrong guy >>41235234

>>41235234
Broccoli tastes like leaves tbqh

>>41235289
actually I'll take your two pizzas and add hot fries, sweets. I would eat everything and still push my ass to do 200 pushups a day. it sucks at first but intense workouts are a drug, I stopped doing them after a while. intense workouts feel better than an orgasm for me, anybody else love that rush you get when you push your max to the limit? better than crack, the rush feels better than when you eat junk food afterwards and you'll crave more. just dont give up. little by little, baby steps if you want but it's important to at least try to push yourself.

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>>41235303
>he doesn't like a good pile of leaves every now and then

>>41235289
cont. I used to eat that stuff daily. you'll lose weight but it's better if you dont stuff yourself before an intense workout because you'll throw up. you can eat anything you want but burn it off.

>>41235327
I like them but broccoli just doesn't taste that good tbqh

t. Lettuce enthusiast

Will straight up fasting work if you have enough body fat to live off, will i lose muscle or will my body get with the program and realize that the fat reserves are the only way to feed itself?

ive heard of morbidly obese people lasting weeks with only water and vitamins but it sounds kinda bullshit.

>>41235371
this doesn't work. just eat small portions 6 times a day. limit yourself to 1500 calories. That 500 cal. deficiency should let you lose some weight after a few weeks. also exercise for 20 mins.

>>41235498
Are these bad for you if you're trying to lose weight?

>>41232831
glug glug glug

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>41232966
drinking often degenerates into a dickswinging contest. whoever drinks more than everybody else is the "alpha"

wowsers, down 18kg, like 7kg to go maybe more.
going to make it bois

>>41234997
Well if they're allowed to forage or something, sure

I thought you were talking about them locked in a cage and given only water

this keto shit is too fucking complicated

>>41235565
2 slices of good cheese at 100 a pop, 2 slices of white bread at 70 a piece, and probably a good 3tbsp of butter. 680 calories. And that'll full you up for a good thirty minutes. So no, I'd avoid em.

>>41235863
just work out a lot. eat normally. start working out and building resistance, push forward an hour, take a break, do another hour after. keep pushing until you're going 3 to 4 hours working out like it's nothing. eat lots of protein, drink lots of water. it's easy

>>41232314
desu I dunno what to say, I love that shit and did before I even started getting fitter. Everyone's tastes are different - I keep trying squid and crab because my family love it and no matter how many different ways I've tried both, I'm not a fan. Shit happens.

>>41233831
keep going dude, if you've realised that you, and only you can get yourself where you need to be despite your problems, then you're going to make it. Respect.

I am 6'0" 300 pounds and my birthday is in 6 months. I want to lose 100 pounds by then how do I do this?

>>41236073
work out and stop eating crap. not going to sugarcoat it or you'll eat that too.

>>41236073
You will not lose 100 lbs in 6 months without physically and permanently harming yourself. If you can accept this, I'll go ahead and give you advice. If not, fuck off.

forgive me /fat/ for I have sinned.

I have some health problems and am waiting test results to see if I have cancer. I got drunk and ate like 4k cals today. fml.

>>41236073
Eat 1800 calories and do some moderate cardio at least 4 times a week. At the halfway point uou dhould start eating 1600.Weigh everything and don't lie to yourself etc. You won't lose 100 pounds but 70 is doable. Read the gosh darn sticky if you want to get into the minutia.

>>41236115
Should I go low carb?

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>>41236103

you have failed us all

>>41236144
1000 calories per day, 20 mins exercise. prolly lose 7 lbs a month. 7x6 = 42 lbs in 6 months.

>>41236073
Look up your tdee and all that other shit and build a game plan on how many calories to eat and how many to burn

I've settled on a course of about 3 pounds a week, sometimes 4. Average of 13 pounds a month lost

Keep that up for six months and you could drop a good sixty or seventy

How the fuck am I supposed to do cardio with shin splints? I thought I just had to play through the pain but now that I look it up I'm seeing that I should stop completely. I've walked two miles the last two days after having no exercise for years and my shins are killing me.

>>41233400
im in same situation, currently cutting at 1200cal. i eat whey isolate with coffee as breakfast, lunch is 250g chicken breast with 2-4 cups of veggies, dinner is oats with whey isolate. lift 3 days a week and im looking to get swole since i can into 3 pl8s

Currently eating 600 kcal under my BMR and down 10 lbs in 12 days

All I needed was an appetite suppressor

>>41236466
apple my dude

>>41236327

stationary bikes and swimming are pretty good. If you're trying to run don't do it until you're a normal weight. if it's just walking that's causing it find another cardio method and slowly build up the walking. also try to find a softer ground to walk on.

>>41234348
I'm on a diet and whatever is in your picture looks amazing. Is that bacon wrapped jalapenos with cream cheese? I need a Calley count you son of a bitch!

>>41236521
No dude you don't understand
I'm taking a fatburner with dmaa and I legit haven't felt hunger in over a week despite being on such a caloric deficit

Is https://tdeecalculator.net/ really accurate?
According to it, male and female at the same weight, age and bodyweight have exactly the same BMR. Can this be true?

>>41234435
You won't put on mass while you're still losing weight, obviously. But becoming familiar with weightlifting is good. Lose the weight first, it will help your energy tons. No reason to carry around that useless fat a you begin your lifting journey.

>>41236601
>70% bodyfat
>1,227 calories per day
This is going to go slow, huh?

>>41235289
>eating before workout
i hate this, working out before eating is best imo.

>>41236683
>70% bodyfat

Wh..What...

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what did you guys eat today? pic related, it's what I ate today.

ignore the goals I don't know how to udpate that part

>>41236073
100 is pretty steep but I've dropped 60 in 4-5 months. Probably be around 70-75 at the 6 month mark. Don't aim for 100lbs, you are setting yourself up for failure. Instead aim to steadily lose weight. Being 230-240 will be much better than being 300, trust me. I am a lot more confident now even though I haven't reached my goal yet beause I know I am making the right progress, I'd bet you'll feel the same.

>tfw I'm stuck at 85kg for months
Someone help me.

>>41236681
I'm currently eating 1000 below matinence and whenever I start lifting weights I go instantly from losing weight to gaining 1-2 lbs, so this isn't entirely true. If you have a small enough amount of muscle you can still gain muscle at a deficit.

So here is my issue, I only eat around 1200 calories a day, mostly meat and vegetables, moderate fat content. I walk about 15000 steps a day. Have chronic lymphocytic thyroiditis,
Slowly dying. Weigh 240 5' 3" and maintaining no matter how little I eat im not losing weight. I have about 7-8 years left before my thyroid kills me. How can I get /fit/

>>41236713
A normal weight for my height according to BMI is 130lb and average bodyfat at a normal BMI is around 15%. I weight 290lb. which is 160lb. over my normal body weight. 160/290 = ~55%, 55% + 15% = 70%
I know I'm a huge fatty, but I can do simple math.

>>41236754
this is really sad, I don't know dude. With a thyroid issue like that, you might not be able to. You'd probably need to talk to your doctor.

I'm sorry for what you're going through.

>Aim for 1k deficit
>gf keeps making chocolate chip cookies straight from the oven
>ends up only being a 2-300 deficit

Well at least I'm on dnp which means I'm losing as much as you naturalcucks eating like shit

>>41236790
I swear to christ you aren't. I am desperately trying to find an image to show you what 70% bodyfat looks like but for the life of me google isn't returning anything valid.

I feel like 70% would have you infirm in a bed with no ability to move your legs, let alone function.

>>41233523
It wasn't about attention, I don't have any guy friends but I wanted a mans perspective. I wanted to know if being still pretty overweight was reason enough to stay away. Girls and other websites won't be honest with s person. 4chan is where I come for brutal honesty. Sorry if it came off any other way

>>41236816
>falling for the DNP meme
>eating like shit
>thinking you're gonna make it

not gonna make it

>>41236826
I can move my legs but they don't work too good. My arms don't work much anymore either. I can't even do a pushup anymore.

>>41236816
>Proud of eating like shit
>Proud of dnp
>'naturalcucks'

Oh boy, its all the flags of someone who's not going to make it OR die from ODing on DNP. This is exciting.

>>41236847
Give me your height and age so I can get you a better average. If you can function in the least you're not 70%.

>>41236856
5'9
29

>>41236866
Alright, the calculator I use for mine (that was accurate enough before calipers) pegs you at 41%

Here's the abstract:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16469982

Here's another for you to do personally, but 41-50% seems... more logical.

http://www.healthcentral.com/cholesterol/home-body-fat-test-2774-143.html

>>41236835
>>41236856
Face to facts nattycucks eating at maintenance with DNP will provide better results than all your dieting. Does it sting?

I'm getting sabotaged, i just wanted to do meal prep but i have no water for at least the next 4 hours. They are fixing the water heater in the basement or something.

>>41236922
Don't you have water cans you can fill? Go to a gas station or something, or the neighbour.

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>>41236918
Yeah man, chaps my ass that I can make it on my own merit without putting poison in my body.

It must be weird to know that all your fitness achievement will be summed up in one picture of a blackened calf and a thread calling you a retard.

>>41236882
>http://www.healthcentral.com/cholesterol/home-body-fat-test-2774-143.html
This one gives me 37% bodyfat. There's no way that is accurate. I just measured my calves and they are 18.5 inches around and they are real jiggly and soft.

>>41236946
story?

>>41236954
It makes a moderate amount of sense, bro. That's roughly 183 lbs of lean mass and 108 lbs of body fat.

>>41236956
Homeboy double-dipped on his DNP and that causes your body to internally overheat. Usually people just die but his legs turned necrotic.

I can't remember if he died or if he's wheelchair bound for the rest of his life.

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>>41236726

Fasted till 4pm.

Lower carb day.

>>41236956
>>41236965
Found the article. Enjoy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3381099/Father-nearly-died-overdosing-diet-pills-gain-beach-body.html

>>41236943
this is an apartment building, my neighbour also doesn't have water also it is not the end of the world, i'm a neet so i just cook whenever the water is back.

>>41236965
183lb of lean body mass seems inaccurate with jiggly fat where muscles would be. I was never muscular in any way and was always the weakest (had a weak grip since childhood, girls beat me in any sport) so this seems unlikely.

>>41236988
for the love of jesus stop posting retarded shit, it doesn't matter what you think, it is impossible to have 70% body fat without being 500 pounds+

>>41236995
Why would it be impossible? I have no visible muscles of any kind and anywhere where muscles would be is like squeezing my waist.

>>41237006
Okay, forget it. Who gives a fuck? Just cut at 1800, jump on keto or IF or both and lose weight. Do low impact cardio and start SS or SL.

Jesus fuck, quit fighting people who are trying to give you proper figures.

>>41237018
I've been eating at 1200 (6 level scoops + vitamins + water) for the past year. That's all I've been eating for the past six months with no change in weight.

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>drop plate on toe
>still kinda hurts 8 hours later
please don't be broken

>>41237032
Oh, you actually are retarded. Jesus. Nevermind, I don't want to go down this path with you.

>>41236103
Who knows what I would do if I thought I had cancer
I dont judge you too badly, just dont keep doing that

>>41237039
I don't understand your reasoning.

>>41237052
I don't care.

>>41236946
oh god, what the fuck

>>41237060
My breast size is EE cup.

>>41237072
And it always will be.

>>41237076
;_;

>>41236754
calories in calories out bro just eat less
nah i'm kidding you need to see a doctor we're not medical professionals, i hope you don't die

>>41235196
>implying people ITT's hearts could take it

>>41237083
you're fuckin stupid there's no way you are 70% bodyfat. when you weigh that much your body needs muscles just to move you. lifting your fucking arm up is an exercise at that point. the muscles are just hidden under your fat.

>>41237121
When I squeeze my arms or legs, I don't feel anything hard besides shin bones and forearm bones except for the chest where there are 3in round wide round things under where the nipples are. I don't think those are muscles.

>>41237135
does any of this really matter. You are fat as fuck the actual percentage doesn't matter. Just lose weight

>>41237147
I plan to. 1200 Calories seems to be too high so I'm going to go with 800 instead.

>>41237135
Go to the doctor and get checked for breast cancer, not joking

>>41237161
Those are milk glands you knob goblin

>>41236103
On the bright side, if you do have cancer it won't matter much.

>>41237154
1200 is fine. Why would you trust your own personal judgement over the multiple sources made by people who have devoted their lives to this kinda shit.

That's like asking a mathematician what 5+5 is and after they tell you 10 you just go "ehh that seems too high I'll go with 7"

800 is objectively less sustainable than 1200 and sustainability is everything since you will likely have to eat that every day for 2 years.

>>41237161
I'm going to the doctor to do a follow-up on some kind of TSH thing. I'll ask him then. Thanks, anon.
>>41237183
Well it's been six months of only 1200 (I stopped going to restaurants for people's birthdays and have not even celebrated any holiday dinners or anything like that.) Calories a day. My weight hasn't changed at all. Maybe the scale is broken?

>>41237154
god reading everything you post is so fucking annoying fuck off you stupid retard don't come here for advice if you're not going to follow any of it

>>41237192
Maybe you should try eating like an actual person instead of drinking nothing but something designed for people to gain weight?

>>41237199
I thought it was calories in vs calories out? I want to make sure I don't get weaker so I want to get enough protein. Is body fort lying that it's 200 calories a scoop? I level the scoop with the back side of a butter knife if that make any difference.

>>41237208
>I want to make sure I don't get weaker

You are RIGHT NOW the weakest you will ever be. Losing weight and doing even the most minor exercises will make you stronger. You don't need fucking 200 g of protein.

It IS calories in calories out and after 6 months of nothing I would think you would have figured out that you are fucking up somewhere and try changing something.

Just eat like a fucking person, this shit isn't hard.

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>>41237208
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>>41236790
>people like this exists

>>41237232
>fucking up somewhere and try changing something.
That's what I did. For the first half of the year I started, I figured that maybe the restaurant birthday dinners and holiday dinners were the problem so I stopped them. I've only eaten six scoops of protein powder, vitamins, and water a day for for the past six months with no change.
I guess that I have to go lower.

>>41237260
You are literally retarded and are actively choosing to make this harder/impossible so you can give yourself and excuse to give up later on.

>>41237282
It's a troll, dude. It has to be a troll.

>>41237282
I don't understand. If 1200 is too high, then I will go lower. I really don't eat anything else. It's easy since I don't have an appetite. The only reason I got so fat was because eating a lot of food helped me go to sleep.

>>41237294
You could try eating 1200 calories of actual food instead of a dietary supplement

>>41237287
I have autism

lol how are you guys falling for this b8 lmao

>>41237260
you should. I hope you get scurvy.

>>41237325
>You could try eating 1200 calories of actual food instead of a dietary supplement
I thought it was calories in vs calories out, but I'll give it a shot.
Supposedly there are 194 Calories in one can of tuna, so that's close to 200. I'll switch to six cans of tuna a day.
>>41237332
I take my vitamins.

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can't believe i fell for this troll

>>41232314
I started eating it because it was part of a takeout meal i ate a lot. Full of chemicals and artificial flavoring. Started to like it.
Now I eat it steamed with rice and just love the taste.
No sauce, no chemicals.

You probably shouldn't start eating take out food because of this though

>>41232363
This.

Used to drink 3l of Soda a day (~¾gallon) now its water only.

Every now and then I have a glass with dinner, but it feels impossible to even drink more than two

>>41237459
add a bit of soy sauce and sriracha and it's basically the same.

>>41232384
I went cold turkey and shit was tough.

The craving stopped after a few weeks but came back hard several times.
Sometimes I would buy and drink a bottle for 2-3 days in a row and almost relapsed. Not getting more after that was maybe the hardest part.
After about a year the cravings stopped and I stopped missing it completely. After about two years it seemed undesirable and even when I have some soda for whatever reasons it is no hassle at all to not have one the next day.

I wish I could do the same with junk food. I never shake it for more than a few weeks at a time

Post MFP usernames.

>>41233831
/Salute

>>41236726
It's literally under "Goals" on the website and you can put whatever you want.

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>>41236922
water is back finally

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>>41237592
Vertigeau

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That glorious cheat day hindered some progress but damn it was worth it.

>>41236402
Isn't this shit dangerous, like isn't this too low calories to be doing gym?)

>>41237795
I'm doing 1500 per day which is a 1000 deficit and running 5 times per week and I feel great, better than I've ever felt. I think this is fine. I wouldn't do 1200 though.

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>>41236565
Yes, friend. They're called jalapeno poppers.