/fraud/ Steroids general

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First for scoob is not natty

Gay source

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Ready to filter the nectar of the gods and get some sick tren gains come on

mods goin ape

>>40937490
previous autismo OP got banned for posting a penis so all his posts got deleted, including our OP

>>40937503
including our thread*

>>40937453
why is he holding 2 guns though? 1 gun is enough for personal protection.

>>40937503
>got banned for posting a penis
wat

>>40937476
I kinda want to spread this on my toast.

>>40937503
oh

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I shoa'd the last thread so we could have steroid discussion. You guys obviously could not handle talking about women in a serious manner like gentlemen.

*tips bandana*

>>40937503
U mad cuz girls luv me

>>40937580
>all that facetuning
smH

>>40937596
At least she voted Trump and was thin. She was a bitch, yeah, but she was my favorite bitch yet.

>>40937580
>>40937640
You smashed?

>>40937679
nah

>>40937739
So then wahts teh point? You just talked a bunch or what? Why even screen cap and post her?

What are the main things to look out for when it comes to both high estrogen and low estrogen before changing AI dosages?

Just finished 10th Anabolics by Llewellyn...

Can somebody explain to me why does he keep recommending Nolva instead of AI on cycle?

>>40937882
It's been a while since I read it but I think he explains it either on the dbol compound page or his dbol only cycle explanation. maybe the estrogen section.

basically it's that estrogen is useful for muscle development also. using nolva stops the worst high e2 side (gyno) but leaves the e2 in your body. there's broscience also that dbol doesn't work if you lower the estrogen levels.

what you should take out of this though isn't that you shouldn't use AI, it's that you should use it carefully and not crash your e2, without even going into joints issues and wrecked lipids

>>40937882
Haven't read the book, but >>40938052
said what I would have guessed.

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How does lenny afford GH? Does he even work?

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should I hope back on or make some more gains natty?
>inb4 what gains

>>40938647
get back on before you loo kworse

>>40938676
I mean it's been like over 2 years since I've roided.

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>>40938647
what gains?

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>>40938691

>>40938647
Looking better than the last cbt pic already. lol

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>>40938647
What gains?

>>40938719
no u
>>40938712
thx bb I've been trying

>>40938730
Still doing the vegan thing?

>>40938052
AI does not completely crash your Estrogen tho, no?

>>40938874
not sure what makes you think that but no, you can very much crash your e2 by just using too much asin/letro

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>>40938647
>vegan strength

>>40938874
Depends on your dose.

>>40938313
Lenny works as chef in a hospital. I bet his food tastes like shit and he probably steals all the insulin, growth hormone shots

>>40937803
Bloodwork

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>>40938858
dinner last night

Getting my GED and my school counselor (i dropped out) is tryna get me a high school degree thru online classes.. fuck that. High school is such a fucking joke. Im not a computer nerd I cant do that shit. Fuck these tests but be damned Im not doing anything for free again.

>>40939039
lmao

>>40939061
Nice.

>TFW spent 2 hours eating hotpot last night
>Delicious and high protein
I've been shitting fire for hours now

>>40939039

honestly i think his job is more of boiling potatoes and peeling carrots type of stuff.

>>40939091
Hs diploma looks better though.

>>40939061
Is this what skellies considered a big meal?

>>40939130
I weigh 190 you manlet.

also no, I only needed about 900 calories more for the day so I had this plate and 16oz milk.

>>40939130
I was 125 lbs. 5'11" in high school, and honestly yes. This meal would fill me up.

I cannot eat a lot in one sitting, but I get hungry again after 1 hour.

>>40939096
>hotpot
elaborate

I know I need to keep my sodium levels low to minimize bloat but with weather getting and the nature of my work (I do refactory work in a steel plant) im going to be sweating like a pig for a solid 6 hours a day, like I usually finish a shift with a few salt stain rings on my undershirt so should I worry about keeping sodium low or should I up it?

>>40939223
I just realized how awkward I made my question but is there any negative effects of being low on sodium?

>>40939248
electrolyte imbalance

>>40938313
I think it's visceral fat from insulin, not an HGH gut. He had insulin, peptides etc in his fridge in the cleaning series.

And he doesn't have overgrown hands/head/limbs from HGH etc like rich piana

>>40938647
You think you can reach natty limit aka natty gains just as easily after having roided?

>>40939278
So would it be better to drink something that will restore my electrolytes or just up my sodium intake or is there even a difference?

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>>40937453

Hey /fit/


I am doing TRT, just 125mg of test per week. It's been going great but two weeks ago I took a bit too much letro and I've been super depressed ever since, how long does it take to get back to normal?

My memory is completely garbage, it's like I am completely spaced out.

>>40939107
I dont give a fuck im joining a union also im smart

>>40939393
Get electrolyte drink

>>40939407
why only 125mg?

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Anyone know if Minoxidil really lower testosterone/fucks with your DHT? I figure it's just scaremongering by jelly beardlets.

So for 20mg of sdrol should I split dose or take it pwo and if taken pwo how long before my workout should I take it?

>>40939311
yea, it's been "proven" that past roiding permanently affects your muscle cells and other science things.

>>40939491
>Anyone know if Minoxidil really lower testosterone/fucks with your DHT?
it doesn't, but the collagen inhibition and subsequent "aging sides" are very real

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>>40937516
>being this democrat
Never gonna make it brah

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>>40939590
>collagen inhibition

What does this mean, practically.

> "aging sides"

Well I already have a baby face.. I'm going to use it for my beard.

>>40939484

It gets my test on the 1100+ng/dL range. So I didn't see any reason to go higher.

>>40939532
It increases mucle nuclei yes. But it permanently decreases insulin sensitivity and mayble messes with your androgen receptors.

>>40939658
My doc put me on 200mg

>>40939407
Your estrogen is probably too high. When you get your next bloods have him check e2.

>>40937453
I think the only solution to not get acne with the MDHT / Anadrol I bought is low dose accutane - has anyone done this? Looking at 10mg ED or EoD; I already use Retin A on my face, so at least my acne is not visible with clothes on.

People overreact on forums, but that can't be adding that much more damage to the liver right?

>>40938647
What gear are you on and how long been on gear+lifting total time.

Your making me want to stay natty.

>>40939678

What's your total T?

>>40939704

I will, maybe that's the issue because my joints don't hurt. I am not bloating either, weird.

>>40939659
>permanently decreases insulin sensitivity
no

>>40939775
haven't been on gear in over 2 years.
was on test.
stay natty

>>40939808
How come you trip on /roid/ if you are natty?

How were your gains on test?

>>40939794
Yes. https://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-09-anabolic-steroid-abuse-impaired-insulin.html

>>40939872
>100 person study
>using the term AAS to imply the body responds identically to every AAS.
wow that study sounds like something off bodybuilding.com where they claim all injectable steroids cause liver damage.

>infection at injection site

OFF TO THE HOSPITAL WE GO

Whats the difference in gains if I add 250mg Tren E e3d to my current 250mg Test E e3d?

Also, is that the optimal amount? I don't want too much Tren as I've never used it before and I want to test out the waters.

>>40939963
How hard is it to use sterile needles you fucking idiot

>>40939977

>I didnt take every precaution and use a fresh needle

>>40939963
False flag.

How did you know it was infected, if you're telling the truth?

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>>40940006
It's impossible for it to be infected if you had a clean needle and sterilized the injection site every time. Also it's best to wipe the top of your test vial because the needle touches the cap and that makes it not sterile.

>>40939965
Bro I'm on my first tren cycle on I'm shooting 150 e3d tren e with 150 e3d test e and its amazing, I'm 4 weeks in and there is a serious visible change in the mirror daily, I'm eating everything and leaning out while putting on weight, seriously with tren less is more untill you figure out where you are comfortable

Steroids are weird. I just did my first dose of my 4th week (testosterone enanthate) and I'm finally starting to feel the strength. It's like my normal max weights are less heavy than normal. It's a slight difference right now, but I'm hoping it becomes more noticeable.

I literally have no appetite while on an EC stack. How do fatties still exist

>>40939925
Wow, I really like how you refuted the mechanism they suggested that caused it.
And how you imply that your AAS (test) might not be relevant even though it the 1 AAS that every common stack has in common.

>>40940110
Normally takes 4-6 weeks to start to feel it. People saying they feel it first week or two is placebo.

>It's like my normal max weights are less heavy than normal

Also known as "increased strength".

>>40940044

Could just be irritation or blood poisoning though I did nick a vein last week.

Doc already has me being sent antibiotics. I'll be more thorough, this was the one time I didnt use sterilizing wipes for my hands.

>>40940136
>Also known as "increased strength".
Lol, what I mean is that it feels like gravity is less forceful. I realize that's the same thing as weights feeling less heavy, but that phrase doesn't evoke the feeling I have. Basically I feel like I haven't changed much but everything is magically lighter. Steroids are cool mang

>>40940174
kys

>>40940201
Don't bully

>>40939778
1300ng/dl

>>40940077
How much caber are you on at the moment, if any? I'm not sure how much I should use.

>>40940215
Lol what the fuck, your doctor is fine with you being at 1300? You lucky faggot. You on an AI?

>>40940206

>>40940258
>anon was found dead in suana days later

>>40940258

>1g tren

I wanna believe

That you Boston?

>>40940246
yes as long as my values are good. 12.5 mg asin e4d keeps estro in range

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>>40939193
Basically you get a giant bowl full of soup on a propane grill, and order stuff to cook in it.
There's a place by me that does amazing all you can eat hot pot.

Would it be a waste of time to run Tren E at like 50mg e3d when I finish my blast and start cruising?

>>40937453
What's it like to use cialis as prework out? Just bought 30 caps 10mg for cheap. Should I jerk off a couple times before lifting?

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>>40940397
>take Cialis as a preworkout
>changing in the locker room
>have a diamond hard-on while surrounded by ripped dudes

Is the pastebin gonna be updated anytime soon? It's been the same since 2015, so I think it's due an update.

>>40940429
this thread is dead just go to reddit if you want real info

>>40940201
Does your mom know you are being rude online?

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>>40940426
didn't happen

but you should really get your fantasies under control before it's too late

Ran 500-750mg dnp for 14 days last month. results were great and i have 17 caps left looking to use them up before its too hot out

Should I do an all out fuck it 4 day blast doing 1250-1000-1000-1000 or just run 500mg for 8 days?

>>40940426
I'm gonna wear extra tight underwear then

>>40940594
4 day blast while fasted

>>40940520
Cialis gives you a hardon my friend.

>>40940348
oh shit that sounds delicious.

>>40940725
cialis gives you a hardon if you're aroused, it doesn't create boners out of thin air

>>40940736
er to be perfectly correct it doesn't even give you a hardon, it makes them harder and easier to get

>>40940736
False

>>40940765
cialis lasts for 48 hours. do you really think you walk around with a boner for 48 hours?

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>>40940736
correct

>>40940725
your story is fake
or you're actually gay. Sorry

Cialis/viagra dont do shit if your e2 or prolactin levels are fucked up, take it from me

was running test/deca no ai or prami. Hot as fuck girl was coming over so I get a fuck load of cialis and viagra from the pharmacy (i have a prescription)

Took almost 50mg PHARM grade cialis and 100mg viagra and my dick didnt work at all

Fixed my e2 and prolactin and weeks later it finally worked

>>40940781
>>40940799
Sucking dick isn't even gay if you're dressed as a girl

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How does my diet look? I'm going to be eating this while bulking on 500mg test e. On arm day and leg day I'll be adding an extra 1,000 calories of cheese bread.

Breakfast:
2 strawberry toaster strudels
2 scoops whey
1 packet oatmeal
2 tablespoons powdered peanut butter

Lunch:
1 pound 96/4 ground beef
1.5 cups pasta sauce
2 cups angel hair noodles

Preworkout:
2 grape uncrustables

Intraworkout:
BCAAs and 1 scoop karbolyn

Postworkout:
1 scoop whey
1 choclate poptart
(both of these consumed on the drive home form the gym)
Shake consisting of 2 scoops whey, 2 scoops rich piana real food, 1 banana, 1 cup blueberries.

Dinner:
500 calories worth of some sort of fast food

Like I said on arm and leg day, ill be eating an additional order of cheese bread for an extra 100 calories.

Total macros for the day are 3849 calories, at least 394g carbs, at least 79g fat, at least 268g protein.

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>>40940820
trip on jerry

>>40940830
what the fuck is this

>>40940830
Begone Blaha

>>40940386

Bumping his question for an answer.

My guess is no and save it for blast after cruising for a month or so.

>>40940861
>>40940865
It's 300 calories above my maintenance cause I'm a tallfag and I get all my macros. What's wrong with it?

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>>40940830
>2 grape uncrustables

>>40940876
the point of a cruise is to recover, no you should not add tren while you're trying to get your lipids back in order, even at 100mg/week (why)

keep it, recover, add it to your next blast

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>>40940884
Uncrustables are GOAT middle school lunch item.

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>>40940830

Is this a joke

>>40940242
So I heard all kinds of shit like take it right away, don't take it without sides etc but gyno and dick problems scare me so I'm on .25 e3d, haven't had any neg sides from the caber yet so I'll keep at that for now.

>>40940915
No, tell me what the issue is. I'm not a diet expert. I've just done IIFYM my whole life and it hasn't impacted my aesthetics at all.

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>>40940945

>1k cals of cheese bread
>grape uncrustables
>2 post workout shakes

Not only do I doubt you have any existing aesthetics but your diet is very high in sugar and processed food. Make your own PB&J sandwiches and switch out orders of cheesey bread for pitas and hummus or a high cal nacho dip as an example.

Those are just suggestions but too much sugar and carbs for any real outcome IMO.

Also, nigga.

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Is dis accurate

>>40941166
>700mg tren eod
WHATEVER IT TAKES

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>>40941223
A little high yeah tho it doesn't actually say the concentration

I don't think there's a single type of person who pisses me off more than retard conspiracy theorists.

>>40940804
how did you get a Rx for both?

>>40940861
my thoughts exactly.

the fuck is all this processed shit? fuckin poptarts? this must be bait.

>cum in 20 seconds from penetration
>couldn't cum after 20 minutes of a girl giving me an amazing blowjob

my penis is a meme

>>40943707
I've got pretty much the same problem my man. I don't know how to not cum while thrusting the vagina. It feels too good.

sex is actually so overrated
with a 10/10 woman life partner or a trap...
its so shit
so is wanking desu

Didn't want to kill a thread for this: anyone here use kratom?
I recently pulled a muscle in my leg in a tragic retardation accident, and most of the painkillers my doctor ha prescribed in the past just make me puke a lot.
Just wanting to know if it's an ebin maymay or if it actually helps.

>>40943983
if you have pain just put up with it
you brain produces neurochemicals to gradually subdue the pain... painkillers are bad, desu.

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Hey, I'm a desperately lonely twink who's obsessed with big muscles, hit me up if you're huge and also desperately lonely.

>>40943777
put a condom on

>>40941233
700MG is 700mg m8, i think you're thinking about mls.

>>40937453
Just got my first gear in the mail. Says to store at 70F but I live in florida. Should I keep my gear in the fridge?

>>40945342
>Says to store at 70F but I live in florida.
Do you not have ac?

>>40945385
Can't say I like the idea of leaving it on when I'm not home but I'll do it if that's the best option.

>>40945543
Consider purchasing some sort of mini fridge

reminder that glands has killed himself

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>>40947342
Hahhahahah awesome

Guys, it's been less than a week after my first injection on my first cycle of test-e, and I'm doing 250kg for 7x5 this week on deadlift, I've added 20kg to my training max because of how unbelievably stupidly well my deadlifts felt on Saturday (first injection was Thursday)

I've added 15kg to my bench and adding 15kg felt easier than previous weight? , 10kg to OHP, and 20kg to my squat, and can curl 5kg more in the span of 5 days or so

This surely cant be all placebo right?
Will I get otherworldly strength gains once the test is supposed to kick in?

Am I going to have the best first cycle ever? I'm legit the happiest I've been in training I've ever been

>>40947512
You vastly underestimate the power of placebo.

>>40947637
Can I placebo my way to a 500kg deadlift senpai

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>>40947682
just use this magic "juice" all the athletes are using

>>40947690
Topkek
Serious though, just how strong is placebo, and once test kicks in, will my gains continue like they did at the rate of my recent placebo gains

>>40947746
> how strong is placebo
Honestly, not that strong.

>>40947770
:(

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Is losing 16% of my weight possible without loose skin?

Top guys seem to be able to go from 300 to 250 so I should be able to go from 250 to 210 yeah?

pic unrelated

Guys rate my cycle (cutting cycle, looking to inc. strength while not losing mass and making significant. fat loss)

Test E 600mg (300mg Monday, 300mg Wed evening) Wk 1-12
Tren E 250mg (125mg Mon, 125mg Wed evening)

Also thinking of putting some HCG in there to prevent testicular atrophy but don't know a lot about it. Also looking for something for lipid protection but again this isn't something I know a lot about.

>>40947846
Looks good, strong enough for a good cut.

I would also like somebodies advice on HCG. Should it be used during cycle or PCT?

I heard people say you don't need it for a 16 week cycle but I feel like my testicles are... pretty important to have large and well... idk.

>>40947875
You use it throughout if you want your balls to be big the whole time, possibly, maybe, if you want to remain fertile throughout in case you're trying to conceive

you use it in the last 2 weeks of your cycle before pct if you just want to help your balls get back to normal size faster. Completely unnecessary for a 16 weeks cycle but you do you, it's not like it'll harm you

>>40948117
aight. not worried about fertility in the short term right now. thanks for info

is cycling a waste of time?

>>40948986
not really, it's just suboptimal

I'm scared of left ventricle hypertrophy. Someone tell me it's not a big deal if you're responsible with your cycling

>>40948996
compared to blasting?

It might be suboptimal but worth it when you're starting out so you have time to figure shit out.

>>40949006
I never even heard about this. Dont give a fuck now either. Who cares if I die at age 50? age 40? I dont.

can someone hook me up with a little insight

>have money to invest in gear
>been consistently dieting and working out for the past 6 months
>at an average weight for my height
>210 at 6'3 w/ a small amount of muscle
>want to go from skinnybuilt/fat to fuckingbuilt/fat

But, I work the typical 9-5 m-f and wouldn't mind having some of that roid energy for when I'm at work, what would you guys suggest to put on big muscle, but overall increase energy for the day?

>>40949037
See I'm not trying to die at 40 or 50

>>40949127
think of it this way, if fat fucking lenny isnt dead you're fine

>>40949116
210 isn't 'average' for 6'3" it's literally overweight. For ideal results AND health cut down to 10% bf or close before cycling. Spend that time doing intense research.

>>40949147
I do plan to get under 20%, but I don't know if I can hit that 'huge fucking built fat' goal at 10%

>>40949170
please be b8

>>40949147
Lmao he should be 225+ at 6'3

R8 my blast
1-24
Test e 400mg

1-22
Eq 800 mg

1-8
Npp 300mg

1-6
Adrol 50mg ed

Week9-24
Tren e 400mg

Maybe Winny last 5-6 well see

All appropriate ai ofc, looking to bulk fairly lean, not sure if primo is worth the $ when eq works well with test/tren, all good gear so don't feel like I need to up dose, 6' 97kg scales say 7% but I say 10 because they're never right.
What would you add? I don't like DECA and tren at same time and mast seems a waste for adding size

>>40949187
legit, I want to be one of those oversized anime guys.

Not the ones with the six packs and katanas, but the ones that use anvil hammers on chains and have a beer gut.

>>40949006
don't use npp

>>40949135
he's not exactly old though. he'll be dead soon enough

>>40949147
manlet spotted

>>40949434
Why NPP? Deca, Tren same deal?

>>40949434
lenny is nearly 50

>>40937453
what do u cunts think of my current lifting mesocycle? been going at it for 3 weeks and I need advil daily, but it's ok. I'm eating 2000 calories at 235lbs 6'2" and dropping fat like crazy.

In terms of drug cycle, 300mg Test Base with 100mg Anadrol and 30mg Dbol PWO. Also, I added the Dbol yesterday for the first time and I had the best workout of my life. Was this a placebo or does it really work that quickly? Pumps were even crazier than before with just the Drol and I had so much energy.

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>>40949509
I was distracted by thicc j-girls with dem big titties in an another thread - forgot pic like a moron.

>>40949487
nandrolone with any ester

oh and anecdotally do liss cardio, not hiit

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/5kmur7/nandrolone_and_the_risk_of_left_ventricular/

there's no 100% way to avoid lvh though. it's a risk you kind of have to accept going in, or if you believe you will actually just do. one cycle. or. something

>>40949552
I'm thinking this tren cycle in May will be my last real cycle, then maybe one or two 500mg test only (or add var or tbol) cycles afterwards... Only done one cycle so far of test and Var... I hope I don't fuck my shit up F A M

>>40949509
Forgot to mention that it's 7 days a week and I'm trying to strengthen my triceps for my Push Press; also trying to become even more thicc. I already waste about an hour checking my ass out after showers.

>>40949195
He's been lifting for six months as a natty .. he has nowhere near enough muscle to be anything but a fatty at that weight

Test Prop + Stanozolol or Trenbolone Acetate for lean muscle gain? Keep in mind that I've no idea what I'm doing but I want dat dere lean muscle mass without regards to my overall health.

>>40949868
fuck off

>>40949868
Why not all three? That's legit my next cycle

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So when you get a few spurts of blood after injection, do you think its mostly just blood or is it likely carrying a significant amount of oil with it?

I mean, I've never been gushing blood or anything but once I move to cruise doses I'd rather be losing as little as possible.

>>40947320
so test is ok to keep in the fridge then?

>>40950508
Really? Gay. Don't worry about it fag

Might be time to reasses my life when I start miring the puppers hamstring vascularity.

In other news, back up 10lbs and looking thicker. Incline bench is up as are rows. Girlie is kinda awkward, but pretty girls pull it off as quirky; said she intimidated by eye contact with me because I'm too handsome.

How much experience of roiding does it generally take for most people to actually look like they're roiding?

>>40940397
If you time it right
You literally feel like a walking erection

>>40950761
The answer is totally variable, depending on how you train and eat.................................................

>>40950786
And genetics, ironically.

>>40950530
Maybe. If it gets to cold it can fall out of suspension.
I'd probably getting a mini fridge like the other dude suggested, and leave it on the warmest setting.

>>40950611
Lol I know the feel. I've known some shredded dogs.
Wyatt's your weight at now?
>TFW no autismo spaghetti spilling girl

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rate my ppl routine? starting my second cycle and upping volume

compounds are x5, accessories x8-12

>>40950972
Looks pretty good to me. I'd probably try supersetting some of those exercises.

>>40950972
I did more volume than this as a natty......

Three weeks into my Test Prop cut cycle taking 100mg EOD & I'm actually looking worse than before. I also feel fatter. My mood hasn't changed much. My endurance has gone up, my strength too.

I still have a hard time recovering from my sets. I feel BTFO after a heavy set, and most of the time, I just can't recover at all during that workout, so I end up having to progressively decrease the weight I'm lifting.

Started at 86kg three weeks ago, currently 90kg.

Might kms.

I'm not taking any AI cause I haven't felt any sides, and the last time I had 0.5mg, I struggled to get hard.

Getting bloods this week. Sure fucking hope my gear isn't bunk.

>>40937538
> Eating tren
WHATEVER IT TAKES!!!! kek

>>40950972
> military press

>>40951214
shhhh let him fail miserably

>>40951223
>cut cycle
>Started at 86kg three weeks ago, currently 90kg.
That's not how cuts work

>>40951214
should I add sets? reps? exercises?

>>40950909
It's back up to 250. I took time off in the process of moving.

>>40951256
>That's not how cuts work
Yeah, no shit. I was pointing out that it's odd that I've actually gained weight despite being well way below my TDEE.

>>40939433
Nah.

>>40951214
Same.

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>>40951297
Enjoy your high school or college degrees faggot

>>40951276
bimbo post a pic I havent seen one in 5 months

If I have S I P S and clen will my heart explode?

Only ever used clen on one cycle and my heart was racing and my hands were shaking all day

>>40951387
That's a nice meme, saved

>>40951387
I will, and I'll enjoy actually joining a union, because my application won't be at the bottom of the pile with GED only applicants, nevermind having the work ethic to actually pass initial evaluations. Some journeymen may stand around and loaf it in general, but that's not union life, you show up unresearched, underprepared with no experience and no qualifications, no brotherhood is going to want you watching their back.

Will steroids stop Russia from HACKING OUR COUNTRY ?? thanks

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>>40951471
Haha fag

>>40951387
>Sam Louis Industries on BC
I kek'd harder than I should have.

>>40951582
Oh damn

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>>40951427
250 two days ago

Should I buy Persona 5?

>>40951276
Fug. I'm so at a duel 190.
What's your routine look like? I'm thinking about mixing mine up.

>>40951289
I seriously don't know what's going on. Test will cause a little bloat but not that much.

I'd definitely take a look at your diet.

>>40951673
If you can spare the money, looks rather promising, and it should probably be after such a long wait.

... eh, I mean GET OUT WITH THAT WEEBSHIT

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>>40937476
Boy oh boy, it looks like it's time to jump on the tren train

Just gotta get mah caber

>>40951706
http://www.shreddednation.com/john-otis-hollywood-interview/

This w/ variations on synomous lifts (tbar vs barbell), added drops and rest pause when I feel.

>>40951635
post front you pussy

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>>40952108
Cute anon

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>>40951932
> One of John's clients

>>40952122
going for that david laid mode I see.... no core

>>40952177
And?

>>40952122
you have great muscles dude but you're way out of proportion...honestly i'm incredibly jelly of your shoulders but if given the choice i would not look like you

>>40952255
That's alright. No offense taken. I need to bring up upper chest and traps. They both shrank a bunch over the month I didn't lift; not pinning for 12 days didn't help (weird circumstance).

I generally enjoy my build, focusing on more horizontal to pulls and rowing to increase thickness, but overall I'm very pleased. Not a day goes by I don't get validated on it in some capacity.

>>40952122
>>40952387
>Not a day goes by I don't get validated on it in some capacity.

Well that's pretty much the "look as big as possible in a v-neck" look. Miring the lat insertions

Any idea what your BF% is at?

>>40951932
>http://www.shreddednation.com/john-otis-hollywood-interview/
Thanks m8.
I'm always vacillating between 3day split 2x a week, or 4day PHUL splits that don't fit in a week.

>>40952168
Lol if it works for speds kids, it should work for you.

>>40952122
how do people get this fucking wide backs wtf

>>40952387
>Not a day goes by I don't get validated on it in some capacity.
yeah i can imagine! keep it up, you certainly don't need my approval. with well defined upper chest and big lats you're gonna look full alien mode, like captain america in the comics

I'm gonna incorporate Tren E into my blast when my caber arrives, I'm currently on 250mg Test E e3d. I'm going to pin 150mg Tren E e3d, so should I leave the Test as it is, or drop it as well?

I want to minimize the sides, which is why I am having such a low dose of Tren, since I've never had it before, I want to see how my body reacts to it.

>>40952203
and Im mirin desu I was jokin

>>40952665
Everyone reacts differently.
I'd probably leave test where it is for now, and lower it if you feel the need.

>>40952692
How will I know if I need to?

>>40952439
Rn probably 12-14% given abs. I have arm, bi, calf, delt and pec vascularity though.
>>40952685
Thanks man

>>40952714
Everyone's different. It depends on how well you handle the side effects.
My personal experience with tren was it was a lot milder than I was lead to believe. A bit of irritability and the occasional trensomnia. Tren sweat was pretty mild, but I was running it in winter.

Anecdotally, I've heard that runing low test helps minimize tren sides.

>>40952877
Basically it's that estrogen greatly amplifies prolactin sides

If you're using AI semi-regularly on your dose of test, you should probably lower it, unless you have bloods backing up the fact that you're dosing your e2 perfectly.

hell you might think you don't need AI but your estradiol is still high, so I guess what you should take out of this is: run low test mid/high tren unless you have bloods proving that your e2 is within range

>>40952986
>Basically it's that estrogen greatly amplifies prolactin sides
That makes sense. I think that might be the first time I've heard an answer with an actual reason given.

>>40952986
>don't need ai but e2 still high
Me, thanks.

I get virtually no e2 sides aside from mental imbalances. The tren/prolactin synergy with toxic e2 levels is quite real. On test alone I can keep e2 fairly high with no true sides mentally.

This is my 6 day on dbol and i dont see any results is this normal?
Im using 20mg on not training day and 30mg on training day
Whats wrong?

Do you folks put the needle in quickly, or slowly?

Psychologically, I can only do it slowly (20 seconds). Maybe I should teach myself to push it in fast and get it over with

Will add tren to my cycle together with the 500mg test e I'm already on. Is there anything I should change in my diet? Cutting at 2000-2500kcal 200g protein and I only really eat carbs at lunch (IF also so no breakfast). Should I continue like this or eat more carbs? 188lbs 5.9 if that matters.

>>40952665
you probably wont need caber for 300mg of Tren ew

If you don't want to risk gyno can you cut off your nipples?

>>40953466
I lold, then I considered it, they don't do me much good and this fucking caber is expensive

>read the reddit wiki
This board is so fucking horrible now

>>40953105
bump

>>40953667
>waahhh a popular website made a decent info source, and because I think it's for fags the fact that my secret club recommends it infuriates me!

Kys

>>40953667
It's only there for newfags to learn so we don't get the same beginner questions 50 times per thread

>>40953667
unironical reddit hate is for /b/tards mostly you newfag. I mean I agree it's a cancerous place and most of the userbase should be culled like cattle, but it does provide solid info on quite a few topics, you just need what to look for, so as long as you stay away from the popular bacon narwhal imgur sjw hillary voting faggotry there's no shame.

>>40953700
Could be fake. Try upping the dose to 30mg per day + 10 pre workout

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>>40953749
>>40953707
Agreed desu

>>40953159
hold your breath, stab it in quickly, release breath

>>40953466
that's probably a joke but you can cut out the gyno gland and never be prone to it ever again

>>40953762
how does it affect pec inserts nipple / versus gland. can a surgeon remove the gland but not nipple?

also Ive unironically thought about cutting off my nipple as a sort of religious offering

>>40953756
mild kek

>>40953762
that one screencap of the guy on some steroid forum DIYing gyno removal comes to mind. fucking shame I don't have it on this PC.

>>40953788
yes, the gland is behind the nipple, it's basically the hard part you feel behind the nipple if you actually have gyno and not just chest fat. has nothing to do with the actual nipple, in fact cutting off your nipple would do absolutely nothing

>>40953818
maybe DIY if you want disgusting scars and fucked up nipples forever with internal bleeding

Looking for reports and/or before and after pics from frauds who were still DYEL when they hopped on. I'm coming off a huge hiatus and have lost virtually all of my natty gains due to surgery, opioid-induced hypogonadism, and alcoholism. All good now, so planning to blast off next month and wondering what kind of outrageous gains to expect since I'm starting at square zero.

>>40949552
Found this thread a few months ago. Nice info, especially because the assumption used to be that ANY steroids could contribute to LVH. One thing he doesn't mention, though, is an IV CoQ10 regimen has been shown to possibly mitigate and reverse cardiac remodeling. Worth considering for anyone that regularly uses nandrolone. Actually, pretty sure a couple of the trips here a few years back (the pastebin authors, DHB and the Arnold Classic guy) were using CoQ10.

>>40955044
>IV CoQ10 regimen has been shown to possibly mitigate and reverse cardiac remodeling

Forgot to include a source: https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/cardioprotection-with-intravenous-injection-of-coenzyme-q-is-limited-by-time-of-administration-after-onset-of-myocardial-infarction-in-rats-2155-9880-5-1000299.php?aid=25519

>>40954224
my point exactly lol. I just like the dedication.

>>40955044
this guy, but half the thread is just shaming him because roids before natty limit is the devil lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/3p18hl/harsh_uroidaway_1_year_update/

>>40939091
Degenerate scum. Do something with your life and stop stealing my taxes

>>40955116
>shaming him because roids before natty limit is the devil lol
but in other threads they pat themselves on the back for blasting tons of stuff at 25% and looking literally worse than before afterwards. what is this place.

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>>40955167
They're a cesspool of shit. Like you said they're really touchy. They hail that jcaesar guy as some sort of all knowing person who should be respected but he looks like absolute shit see pic.

>>40955751
wow I didn't know that's what he looked like

why is it always the broscientists who look the best and the people who actually know the science behind things always look like shit? is it just that the people who understand things are just pussies and don't want to run yoloblasts?

>>40955751
i honestly find it entertaining. like watching fat people falling down stairs on youtube, but with roids and pretentious walls of text.

>>40955751
uhh that dyel faggot is their herald of knowledge? are you fucking kidding me? his arms look 14 fucking inches at 15% bf???????

Tell me about laxogenin

if you have low e2 are you constantly dehydrated even if you are drinking enough to be pissing every hour?

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>>40956107
He is a pharmacist or whatever but still, they don't teach about anabolics so whatever he's touting is on par with most of us except on ancilliary pharmaceuticals.

>>40956176
That's him.

>>40956218
Not worth it
If you're going to be a pussy and not use regular injectable anabolics stick to sarms,mk677 and gw1516

>>40952724
Tfw also 12% ish
Have fantastic forearm,delt,chest,serratus and calf vascularity,but a four pack and stubborn fat over lower abs

is test + adrol the best for two stack for muscle growth? is superdrol better?

>>40956474
>the best

Try test tren superdrol hgh and insulin

>>40956582
we're hitting new levels of b8 here

at least I hope this is

>>40956562
>test tren superdrol hgh and insulin
>2 stack cycle

nice try bozo

>tested test and it was low 19yo
>was lifting pre hard already anyway
>mid high 20s bf
>did research and bought test e
>everyone online saying its a bad idea at high bf
>300mg pw
>making good gains
>nothing mental benefits really
>get bloods done and blood pressures normal, cholesterols normal, e2 is controlled, all bloods normal, no real side effects apart form gains
>trying to figure out why there is so much scaremongering and controversy about roids

>>40957063
hahaha high 20s bf, kill yourself

the fact that you are even calling yourself high 20s means more like high 30s

>>40956474
test tren
no oral comes close to tren

>>40957063
You're 19 years old, of course your cholesterol and blood pressure are fucking normal. That's not an accomplishment. When people talk about the potential side effects of shit like roiding they are talking about LIFELONG trends amongst entire populations. Yeah some people can get lucky and get away with doing crazy shit - others will not suffer any consequences until maybe later in life, if they're unlucky or not careful. Jesus how stupid are you that you think a sample of (you) is representative of everybody?

ps you're a fat fuck

>>40957282
haha you really think 300mg pw would be that bad for the average guy anyway? fucking delusional, 200 and 250 is often prescribed as a trt dose, and if monitored running low dose cycles or crusing on a trt dose is perfectly safe, kys you dumb fuck

How much muscle can a girl gain from 5 mg of anavar in 8 weeks?

>>40957339
My ex gained about 15lbs.

>>40937453
Is there anyway to increase height using HGH? I'm 22 and 5'6" i wanna be at least 5'8"

inb4
>grow grow grow

>>40957405
Can you cut on anavar?

>>40957443
no niggers will break into your house and force feed you at gun point

>>40957443
Sure.

>>40957483
You're a loser.
>>40957487
Thanks.

>>40957504
what kind of answer did you expect retard? do you think anavar should be given to starving niggers in africa so they dont lose any more weight?

>>40957537
kys

>>40956391
But odds are someone with a biochem degree and a career in the field is better equipped to understand and work with the information than your average gym bro.

He does look like shyt, though. I probably would not let those pictures of me get out if I was hanging out on a steroids forum.

Kinda reminds me of Lyle McDonald

>>40957649
thats why doctors know so much about steroids right

>>40957703
Yes, a doctor or really anybody with a formal education in biology and chemistry is more likely than the average person to accurately evaluate the available information. Whether or not the average doctor has taken the time to do the research is another story but that's not really the point

Will I be fine running a nova/aromasin only PCT? Or is clomid a must have

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>go to pin before bed
>remember I need to brew
>small batch why not
>nalgene breaks on me

>>40957797
Nope they are going to be biased as shit from paying hundreds of thousands to be indoctrinated by kikes

>>40957703
he said better equipped to understand. and yeah, 4 years of chem and 4 years of post-grad school directly involving biochemistry and human medicine does count for something.

that guy clearly does not look good but that doesn't automatically disqualify everything he says. conversely, just because he is a pharmacist doesn't mean he should be exempt from scrutiny

>>40957800
Yeah, unless you've been on for a long fucking time (20+ weeks). Even at 20 weeks you could probably get away with just Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20, but I wouldn't unless you're really scared of dem Clomid sides.

>>40957797
>>40957845
nigga is obviously trolling

I will lower the dose to 750mg test-e. Will i get rid of the paranoia it's driving me insane

ALL I WANTED IS BEING BIG< FUCKINNG FUCKING PARANOIA I HATE YOU YOU YOU

>tfw too small to cut
>tfw too fat to bulk

S M H

wat do lads? tempted to blast dnp then pump myself with a gram of test and yolo

>>40952474
Do steron, do pullup

>>40952665
If you're so cautious about hoe tren will affect you, why not go with ace? Kicks in faster, sides decrease faster when dose is adjusted, daily changes with ace....


If you worry about tren cough, know that it happens when you inject too fast, or forget to aspirate and accidentally into vein. Tren E has more sides, and the sides take weeks sometimes to disappear after you lower the dose

>>40957063
What the fuck are your lifts like anyway

If you did any research at all you would've realized your test would've skyrocketed had you just lost the fat before you started injecting test like a retard

>>40958821
>MasT
>King of anything

BTW look behind you

Fantastic feeling right now brehs, starting week 3 of the tren ace and test. Doing 75-100mg ace daily, alternating between high and low, and 250 test e weekly, with aromasin 12.5mg every 3rd day and caber at hand.
I can say i finally feel the tren. Been more irritable lately, but nowhere near the manic rage that i was led to believe I'd develop. Haven't gotten tren cough yet. Sweats are starting to be more noticable, and I'm looking most lean when waking up. Bp is up, 149/84 the other day. I'm used to being around 118/74 but shit man, i feel the cardiovascular endurance go down. My diet could be cleaner, but eating 200 cals less of maintenance. I've gained 8 lbs over the last 2 weeks.

Changing from blast to cruise in 3-4 weeks. First time cruising.

I need to cut. Went to hard on the bulk. How should I approach it? Maintenance for a while, drop kcals slow?

Under the impression i'll be able to cut a bit quicker than natty without throwing my gains/strength into the dumpster

>>40958821
You're just days away from commiting murder aren't ya masT?

>>40959188

4 week cruise, add in DNP.

I'm going to run it during my 'cruise'.

Tfw first cycle and im actually acting more and more dominant and it feels amazing desu, even though I'm acting more dominant to people, people are actually seemingly respecting me more


Thank you underground bathtub chemicals, I owe ya one

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>tfw work nightshifts
>breakfast starts at midnight, then snack at 5am
>1300-1500 cals
>when I get home at 8am I just binge eat 1000 calories more
>now at 2500ish calories vs my 3000 maintenance while cutting

Oh thanks, I... wanted to do IF anyway and just do jack shit till midnight.

EVERY FUCKING DAY THIS SHIT HAPPENS

does anyones eye twitch while they're on cycle?

>>40937453
never done it before

is dbol cycle alone worth it? i dont want to inject

same question with anavar?

if i were to cycle anavar would i need any other things to cycle with

>>40960052
>is dbol cycle alone worth it? i dont want to inject
>same question with anavar?

anavar has minimum suppression if you dose reasonably in the AM.

Do 8 - 12 weeks anavar low dose as its your first time with gear.

You won't need PCT after stopping either. Its one of the most fucking safest steroids in teh world. Given to recovering alcoholics.

T suppression will be low at 30-50mg all dosed in the AM.

>>40960146
how good is anavar?

i know its a stupid question but is it worth the money

I am 160 lbs 6ft1...

whats the fastest way to arrive to thicc A E S T H E T I C S station?

No GH use tho

>>40951857

That is piss bottles oh my god please font inject that

>>40960203
>how good is anavar?
>i know its a stupid question but is it worth the money

I'm riding the b&c train for the past 4 years ( 6 years natty total 10 year training).

It adds up. 'Bodybuilding' + gear is an expense.

Anavar is expensive for the amount of 'mass' that it will add on to you but

its is way more anabolic than even test.

The problem is that it gives drier, clean gains that is actual muscle.

Compare this to one week on dbol where you start puffing up like a balloon

so people dismiss anavar as a 'strong' steroid.

It probably stronger than dbol as it is used in cutting to help preserver muscle. In a deficit you would always use the strongest gear to help preserve muscle not the weakest.

Anavar is misunderstood. It shouldn't be too expensive even at a low dose or running it solo.

I'm guestimating say $6-10 a day at 30mg or 50mg.

Its about $42 - $70 , purely guessing here.

But you are running the safest cycle imaginable and once you have a good run with it and are ready. Go for injectable test plus anavar.

Slowly build up buddy and milk the most gains from the lowest effective dose.

>>40960279
thanks alot man, will take all on board

i was just looking to anavar for the cutting part as i want to get to lower bf% by july time, about 13 weeks away

i'll probably run a 10week cycle

thanks again

>>40960319
Here brother.

Watch this. MEdical doc who bodybuilds and knows his shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5z_Niqt8S0

:))) all the best!

Had an RN pin my glutes yesterday and it was amazing how smooth it went. Barely felt it and it was quick.

How do I self-pin that smoothly?

>>40960241
I brewed it myself from the Tren raw

>>40960689
>>40960689
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