Generally conversing frauds.
Natty grills edition
Anyone know of any good low stim pre workouts? I know about Dr Jekyll.
Hi welcome to fraud. If you've never been here before you're probably here to ask a really dumb question. Thats ok. Go ahead and google it. Now that you've ignored me and not gone ahead and googled your question, let me answer it for you.
1) No, an oral only cycle is not a good idea. Go ahead and google it and you'll find out why.
2) If you're looking for a steroid source, then you'll need to refer all your Steroid Source Talk to reddit. Go ahead and google that too.
3) Yes, sarms do shut you down. The only one worth using is LGD. You're gonna wanna google that.
4) Will you lose all your gains off cycle? Only if you don't google that question bud.
5) Yeah, you do need pct. Thats a google away.
At this point you're probably thinking well hey, I didn't google anything at all so I'll probably just ask it here because I wasn't spoon fed the information. Thats great. But before you do, go right over to google and punch in your question.
I figured the pic would kinda infer the topic too.
anyone prefer to date asians over other races? 80% of my dates/fugs last 6 months or so has been asian only, and im actually really into them, and i dont kknow why. my asian male friend called me racist the other day because of this. am a fuckin racist fraud?
Can you stop posting this shit disclaimer every thread?
Look at what happens!
>discussing dating of different races instead of steroids
What is the point of making a thread at all if all you say is "Google it."
EVERYTHING IS ON GOOGLE.
What's the point of starting a thread???
>implying that doesn't happen every thread anyway
>implying the disclaimer doesn't lead to less un answered questions which leads to less moaning and crying from the people who have un answered questions
Asians gross me out. I don't understand why everybody lives them so much.
>teeth worse than england.
>stinky Vagoo (this has to be true)
>Wierd obsession with cartoons
POST UR RATIOS BOYZZZ
this is an old one from my first cycle
>humans have evolved since the 1960s to accommodate for injections. Our veins have been re-mapped to avoid ever being hit by a needle. aspirating is outdated and obsolete.
No because I would put myself into retarded levels of debt
Of current nursing staff in developed countries that share in the same protocols as my country, yes from what I remember it is no longer done or taught. Old school nurses might still do it because it is hard set into their methods but they are not supposed to any more
Why the fuck are we discussing this?
Aspirating is harmless, and it may show you've injected wrong, which helps you.
Don't do it if you don't want to.
I asked a nurse and she does it.
>Take home: aspiration is NOT needed for IM injections if proper technique and location is used EXCEPT for the dorsogluteal site where it should be used.
>Take home: aspiration is NOT needed for IM injections if proper technique and location is used EXCEPT for the dorsogluteal site where it should be used.
>if proper technique and location is used
hate to break it to you, but none of us have received training in IM self-injections
>it should be here
>oh no blood, guess it's safe to inject this underground chemical I bought in an ally then
I think most people just hate having needles in them so they don't want to spend extra time aspirating.
I aspirate every time I pin quads but probably once i move to delts I won't just because it's a bit more of an awkward angle.
It's def underdosed, it's from an rc. My supplier that's in my state doesn't have pharma in stock. Having to suffer with this shit. It's more like eod. Doesn't hit me like it did last time. It used to make me feel all fuzzy and kind of light headed, lul me into a sleep almost but now this crap isn't doing anything. I think my digestion is fucked from the t3 tho also. Ugh fucking this cycle up.
600mg tren e, 50mcg-100mcg t3 ed, 250 test e, was also using mtren pwo but my digestion is fucking up so I stopped. Gonna switch to dbol which arrives today and add 300mg mast per week unless I can stomach adding more, I might do 450.
i'm sure your joints are loving you right now.
i'm on 400 tren e 200 test e. How are your tren sides from 600? I'm throwing in 50mg tren A (finaplix :) ) in the last 20 days. Not getting any gnarly sides unlike my first tren cycle and it's actually bumming me out a little bit.
I'm taking some Lgd 4033. Thing is I just got the raw powder, I have a milligramscale so measuring is fine but should I be putting in some kind of liquid/oil before ingesting or will capping do the trick just fine ?
joints were really killing me for a bit but then all of a sudden here comes bloat and here comes nips hurting... no more joint pain.
But I have animal flex i can load up on if I need to lol. My sides have been hit and miss with 600, not many sides at all.. insomnia like a mofo, went to sleep at like 5am last night, I take zzquil every night and it doesnt do shit.
It doesnt hit like ace thats for sure. I dont get sweats, instead ill just get heat flashes where im hot as fuck all of a sudden or ill be really cold. Weird cycle.
not him, unrelated, seeing as how you're probably one of the more knowledgeable people here
would it be advisable to run tren on my first cycle ever?
Something like 300mg/week test e 400mg/week tren 12.5mg ED aromasin?
holy fucking shit. i was just watching this video about body transformations
the first guy in the video. WHAT THE FUCK?
like who the FUCK would do that to themselves? Why would ANYONE get synthol? it is fucking disgusting
I know exactly what you mean man. My first tren cycle I had crazy night sweats every night and an absurd libido. I would jack off at least 5 times a day and it'd get to the point where i'd come but nothing comes out.
This time it's mainly just the insomnia as you mentioned. I go to bed at 2 and wake up at 5 to start my day. I don't really mind it as long as I can continue to progress in the gym. I partially enjoy it because it makes me feel a bit machine-like in the sense that I can function so well while not having the most healthy lifestyle apart from diet and exercise.
hope the mast works well, i think we already talked about that and a status report after a few days ago.
well, that reply doesn't exactly instill me with faith in it, but still wondering if this is something anyone has tried or would suggest to do. Unsure yet if I would need the full 12.5mg aromasin ED or not, but will adjust that accordingly.
Mind explaining the reasoning?
Is it just because the mental sides are so harsh for someone new to *any* compounds?
Or is it more of the physical aspect of too much strength gain too quickly is detrimental for joints / tendons?
If you want to run tren first cycle heres how I'd do it
Test p only first 4 weeks
Introduce tren a after 4 weeks of only test
Keep doses as follows 50mg ed test p 50mg ed tren ace
Keep asin caber and nolva/ralox on hand
Mostly the first and it just throws more for a noob to have to worry about.
You'll make plenty of gains off test alone and not have to worry about controlling both progesterone and estro.
I love tren but I would save it for later if I was you. It's kind of the end of the line since it's so strong. 500:500 vs test which is already strong 100:100
you can but you don't know how you react to your gear and if your source is even worth investing that much in. What if you're running tren for a bulk and realize a year later it would've been wiser to run EQ or deca? what if you realize 3 weeks in school/work is getting overwhelming and you won't have time to go to the gym for more than twice a week?
it's safer to just run test for 10 weeks. See how you work with it and how it works with you. After that you can look towards tren and decide if you want to do it. Tren is great and all but it's better for recomp and most people doing their first cycle don't have recomp in mind.
It's not hype or fear mongering. I'm glad it works for you. I'm a lucky person who can handle up to 700mg of ace a week myself.
I also have friends who have many cycles under the belts and still can't handle tren.
It's not for everyone.
The same can be said about any hormone. Singling out tren is fucking silly.
The double standard is real.
How many people here recommend dbol in a first cycle?
Yet some people can't touch dbol without getting gyno.
So in short yes it is fear mongering.
This too. I know my first cycle I just wanted to get as big as I possibly could. With 12 weeks of test e and 4 week kickstarter of dbol I put on 30lbs. After pct I kept 20.
A noobs body responds so well to less harsh compounds that it really isn't justified to run something as harsh as tren.
Best thing about being on gear is how easy progression is and how quickly everything changes.
Plus it helps being stronger than 90% of the gym most days.
Doing chest yesterday, couldn't get flat bench as high as I wanted, eventually went to incline Dumbbells.
Every mother fucker doing incline, all with less than 20Kgs
I grab the 30s and start going for reps.
The looks on their faces was the best motivation.
This is assuming a 15 week total cycle I assume? so
Test p - 15 weeks but ONLY this for first 4
tren a - final 11 weeks, or less time?
Also what's the reasoning behind test p rather than test e? Simply because i'll be pinning ED anyway running tren?
Thanks for the help, if I decide to go this route I'll stick to it.
Also one final thing, if running a test / dbol babby cycle, is aromasin alone as an AI enough or should I keep nolva on hand too, but only if I need it?
It can be however long you like
The whole reason for starting on short esters is being able to drop compounds immediately.
In those 4 weeks of test prop you'll know exactly what you're in for at the dose you're running. Prop won't give you any surprises. You can decide if you want to keep running test or add compounds if you're adventurous. If you have a good handle on test and decide to add tren ace in within a few days you'll feel it. Again you're using short esters so you have the ability to drop compounds immediately and start up pct immediately. Dont feel intimidated by any compound.
This route you get compound experience by introducing compounds one at a time and you don't have to waste your fucking time by breaking it up into multiple cycles.
You're playing with too many hypotheticals there and I strongly disagree with the whole idea of a recomp.
I also don't think cycles should ever include deca or u ester. Bnc is a different story.
they're hypotheticals that i think should be entertained when someone's suggesting running tren for their first cycle. Personally I feel if someone is going to ask that question with intentions of doing it, then it hints that they may have much more to read on compounds and their purposes.
Also how can you not like deca? are you a test/tren/mast only kind of person?
The length of the ester is what he's referring to, Decanoate, Undecylenate and Undecanoate esters aren't as suitable for cycling, as they take longer to clear your system and complicate PCT a bit, whereas that all isn't as much of a concern if you blast and cruise instead of PCT.
I'm the only person on gear
Very obviously the only one on gear
Nobody else was able to do over 20
So doing 30s with ease made them all stare
An incredibly casual one it turns out
I've so far counter 3 dudes who are as big or bigger than me, 1 of them is actually a friend.
We are the only ones who do deadlifts and high weights on any lifts without swinging wildly and fucking ourselves.
Fucking great ego boost though
There's qt3.14 squat bunnys everywhere and all the other dudes are so lanky the might snap in a light breeze
>you can but you don't know how you react to your gear and if your source is even worth investing that much in.
This can be said about any hormone and any source fortunately there are reviews and bloodworks
>What if you're running tren for a bulk and realize a year later it would've been wiser to run EQ or deca?
What if a year from now I realize I shouldn't have broken up with my ex? This is a silly hypothetical nobody knows how the future will turn out.
>what if you realize 3 weeks in school/work is getting overwhelming and you won't have time to go to the gym for more than twice a week?
What if tomorrow I get into a car accident? This is life. Nobody knows the future.
That makes sense. Thanks for all the info.
Would it be fine to switch from test p to test e mid cycle to reduce pinning if I find that it works fine?
Probably only if I decide to drop the tren, considering if I'm pinning ED anyway then pinning test p ED wouldn't be a big inconvenience.
If so what would the protocol be for that? Test P then next day load the first half of my weekly test e?
e.g. 50mg test p monday 250 test e tuesday then continue with normal E3D test e pins? Or would a longer wait time be required?
Actually this week I was supposed to do 27.5 and next week was 30
But I decided to be a bit of a prick yesterday.
I up the weight on ever single lift every week, even if it's by just 1Kg
So a bunch of stuff I'm lifting a lot lighter than I could.
Cable pull downs I'm doing like 15Kg and could easily do double that plus some
Trying to avoid them injuries
I'm doing 300mg test E3D for 16 weeks. What kind of gains can I expect? I train for 2.5 hours 6x a week and eat +300 above maintenance. I'm getting my bodyweight in protein plus a little more.
Please include lean body mass, total mass, and mass kept after PCT.
My PCT is 90/60/60/30 Torem. Followup question, should I stack that with some Nolva? i have it. fuck clomid.
I can handle tren while on cycle but when I come off (i bnc, so cruise 150mg test) I feel depressed, paranoid and down for a few weeks. Doesnt happen with test. I dont fuck with tren anymore due to that
I've got like a page and a half of retarded shit to rant about at least, thinking I'll start with that and then we can parse it into an actual proper format
check the last couple threads if you want some more quality keks at the cost of what little there is left of harvey's dignity
Met up with someone I've known since high school. He played football so he started lifting before me.
He's the definition of genetically gifted. About 7% year round and has some respectable size. He looks like he probably cycled now. I destroyed him in terms of strength. He was rack pulling just under 4 plates meanwhile I'm rack pulling 7 plates.
It felt amazing that I was able to out work him and close the gap that great genetics created. With that being said if he worked as hard as I have he'd make me look like shit.
Lol ikr. BTW I'm going to email you an idea I had.
>7% year round
Damn breh. I consider myself gifted but I stayed ~10% @170lbs all through HS (didn't lift tho kek)
It feels fucking good to pass people that used to be way stronger than you. It tastes like victory
that's true i actually neglected that since i'm so accustomed to blasting/cruising.
I just think he'll be more confident going about tren on a second cycle after having experienced his first cycle. He'll learn some do's and dont's that's best had at the expense of just test and dbol.
but of course they are purely hypotheticals and he could take tren and have nothing but great benefits from it.
harvey dent-head, duh
jesus dude try to keep up, I'm not exactly trying to be subtle here
>focusing on steady progression
You picked the wrong one anon
Most of them are fine
They lift, they watch other people do lifts, they keep to themselves.
But there's a few gymbro's who act like they're hot shit, walk around in singlets and curl 10s
Max bench is 120 right now
Can't go higher without risking my shoulder, it's basically my biggest fear.
It always fails under too much weight and I don't wanna break it what with the accutane and Tren dryness
Probably helps if I make it clear when I started at this gym I made all my weights bitch weight.
All that talk about trying to avoid injury and all. I've been slowly increasing each week. Trying to get keep steady progression, regardless of whether I can lift way more or not.
Shit like deadlift I never trained before, so I'm only 3 plate on that. But I'll get there eventually
>focusing on steady progression
>You picked the wrong one anon
Sure, I guess I'll just go down to 10kg db and add 1 kg every week.
What a fucking shit excuse
lol fucking retard
how long is a piece of string
what is the sound of one hand clapping
why do people ask such fucking retarded subjective questions with absolutely zero context, it's not like there's actually an answer but jesus
also torem solo is fine
Yeah if I didn't know him as long as I have I would've accused him of riding the juice caboose in high school. We see frauds all the time we sometimes forget people like this actually exist.
See >>35934898 >>35935309
Why do I feel insanely sleepy and lethargic after killing it in the gym for a few hours?
I literally dozed off in my chair for 20 mins and almost burnt my food.
Even after a clean meal afterwards I still feel so sleepy for the next 4 hours, almost dozing off while playing wow.
>talking shit about progression
Wanna know how I know you lift like shit
>how long is a piece of string
Yesssss my rhetorical is catching on
Jesus fuck. My client took a vacation. Came back to the gym and added 50 lbs on his cg bench. Not only that it was for 6 sets and 6 rep.
I'm staring at my spreadsheet in disbelief....
Gonna email you rn brick.
what the fuck, jesus
I'll check it after I get back from lifting
I am not a man of much subtlety
I know how you feel breh. Bunch of chill dudes at my gym but some think they must be king shit of fuck mountain
That shit's cracking me up kek
I'm on 100g or so carbs a day but eh, even after eating carbs post work out it doesn't change shit.
I'm not really sure if I'm cutting or not before when I was a bum, eating about 3k calories clean with 2grams of gear @ 5'8 187lbs.
Now that I work as a shelf stacker and do low intensity cardio 7.5 hrs a day I am probably at a good deficit now, looking leaner than before as long as water retention isn't an issue.
On 80mg ed now to end it once and for all.
Yeah I had him on a cut so workouts had a strength focus. I told him to enjoy himself on vacations. I knew he'd probably get stronger but 50 lbs is insane.
I suspect he doesn't train as hard as he should. But if you saw how shredded and large he was you'd probably be mad you weren't born with his genes.
the girls with stinkiest pussies i've encountered have been indian and white girls
japanese girls at least keep their hygiene in check. maybe half are shaved and half trim, and it's never really smelled all that bad.
>weird obsession with cartoons
more like weird obsession with anything cute but yeah
you learn to like it
this racism isn't even veiled kek
At the end of a cycle of test E. Was thinking of doing 500mg/w of dnp for 2 weeks as the test goes out of my system so i dont lose much muscle while using it. Anyone ever ended their cycle with a couple of weeks of dnp? If so how did it go?
fingered a girl at the bar last night while we were ordering a drink. the bitch came up to me and grabbed my arms as soon as she saw me. she couldn't stop running her hands on my body. bartender was a chick and totally knew. kept giving me the eyes.
that's how the doc prescribed it
Thing is, the most chill dudes are literally be biggest ones
There is a half Samoan dude who's pretty damn big and he spends heaps of time talking to the guys who are there almost every day trying to make progress. Always spotting them and helping out where he can.
Only asian girl I've ever slept with was Eurasian
Half Jap half Pom
She had the biggest bush I have ever seen in my life.
She kept herself clean though, was incredibly tight too, even for a virgin
Why not just extend the cycle by 8-10 weeks and add tren A and go for a recomp? You will gain muscle while losing fat; tren is some serious magical shit. And you don't have to deal with dangerous nasty DNP.
i have always been advised to limit a cycle to 12-14 weeks as it takes a lot longer to recover and risks shutting down natural test and so on? also i think my body fat is too high for tren, i dont wanna get tittys, dnp doesnt risk getting tittys
cancer. You can run 20 week blasts and still have a very high chance of recovering.
Just have a good PCT plan. Pick either nolva+clomid or nolva+torem or just torem.
Also lol you're fat. Tren won't give you titties just have caber on hand because 19-nors can increase your prolactin.
Crazy idea. Don't cycle and fuck your hormones all over the shop.
Just cruise and blast.
I mean, TRT is a medically sound thing that doctors prescribe to people.
Just do really low test injections, you'll be fine.
Also DNP really isn't scary.
Honestly the sides from tren are nastier than DNP most of the time.
Actually a bit better. Been munching 9g of fish oil a day, so everything stopped clicking and aching now.
However I still feel that pain on certain lifts or in particular positions that pretty much tells me I'm gonna break
Yeah, it's a cycle and you're doing a test blast. Blast doesn't always imply you cruise afterwards.
desu mate, do 50mg of tren A a day. You won't need that much if you're cutting. As for prop, do between 50-80.
if you blast and cruise how long do you have to wait between blasts? I am tempted, other than the fact I have to keep injecting myself every week for an indefinite period of time...what do you do if you go on holiday for a couple of weeks? I cant take vials of test to an airport they wouldnt let me through with it
for the other Tren E bro here, I just injected the mast p
Doing a slight frontload, 2.5ml so 250mg of mast p right now. WIll keep posted on how it helps with the tren lethargicness.
You're TEMPTED? You were just bitching about how you didn't want to shut down your natty test. Blasting and cruising significantly increases that since youll be shut down for a year, even longer. If you are sick of the pinning, imagine doing it for the rest of your life. Granted you'll have a doctor's prescription by then but if you really don't mind being on TRT for life then yeah go ahead and blast and cruise because it's a real possibility.
What's a good formula for caliper bodyfat percent readings? I keep using different ones but they are giving me values that are way too lean because i am a fag and store a shitload of fat on my ass and hips.
Just wait the same length of time you blasted for
Or be super smart and get blood tests done and wait for your body to return to normal
Seriously nigger, you think permanent shut down is a thing?
Have you ever read a single thing about steroids besides what some retarded dudebro posted on bodybuilding dot com
Or are you just trying to encourage someone to fuck up their homrone levels over and over again
Im not that smart, ok so its the same wait as cycling then, was hoping you would say a shorter amount of time!
Makes sense just do a massive inject beforehand, fair dos.
Well you could go ahead and make the time between blasts shorter, but that is just silly from a health perspective.
Part of why cycling is fucking absurd is because you're replacing your bodys testosterone with exogenous hormones, then eventually you stop injecting them, then you use other medication to try and stop your body from suddenly being flooded with a crazy hormonal roller coster.
Then FINALLY when everything is back to normal, you start fucking injecting exogenous hormones again!
Where is the sense in that?
If you're scared of messing with your balls just inject and incredibly low dose of test
>250mg or lower
And you'll be fine.
Keeps hormone levels stable as a rock and it does NOT do any of that scary bullshit the fear mongers try to tell you steroids do.
Permanent shut down is indeed a thing. It can happen and it's more likely when you blast and cruise.
Also have fun with that 4 month long PCT that you will need when you come off.
I was in that thread about shaving pubic hair for like 2 hours before I realized it wasn't /fraud/.
I started my dbol a week ago (30mg a day) (+500mg test-e/week 2 wks ago), I took 0.5mg of arimidex the first day I took dbol and since been taking 0.25mg EOD. I've already gained a bit strength from the dbol but I honestly look slightly leaner (face also) but maybe a few % bigger.
Should I lower my arimidex dosage for better gains and maybe actually see some water retention and wait until any worse signs of estrogen happen (oily skin acne itchy nips)? I've had absolutely zero high estrogen sides for now. Will I have the time to start the arimidex again if my nipples start getting itchy or should I keep going 0.25mg E3D or so with the arimidex just in case?
I feel like my sexdrive is slightly on the lower side since starting dbol which is kinda weird.
He's stupid but you're just as fucking bad. Don't try to coerce people just trying to dip their toes in the anabolic ocean to go full throttle and yolotard B&C till theyre a 120kg monster
there is precisely zero credible evidence from actual legitimate sources* that long term exogenous hormone use directly causes permanent suppression in men
literally all of the supposed evidence that points to permanent suppression is based on fucking horrifyingly bad statistical principles involving voluntary or convenience sampling and at WORST gives some tenuous correlative hints to that conclusion
*controlled double blind longitudinal studies done with populations selected by simple random sampling as opposed to random bullshit hearsay
I fucking double dog dare any of you cocksmugglers to find a study that would stand up to any kind of real scientific rigor
Work on bible. I got a draft in my drafts. I'm getting started on compound info.
At least you found an idea for FAQs
just because a study doesn't exist to support a statement, doesn't mean the statement is false. Or has every study that can possibly be performed already been done?
please, put more words in my mouth
let me use small words for you
NO STUDY DONE TO DATE PROVES PERMANENT SUPPRESSION EXISTS
Mates I'm addicted to oatmeal with ON! peanut butter choco whey.
300calories of oats and 2.5 scoops(300cal) of this shit turns the most amazing peanut buttery chocolatey bowl of gains I've ever tasted.
75g~ protein and 600 calories per serving and I just can't stop eating this shit.
at 3000+ calories recomp I sure hope I'm able to absorb all this brotein.
and let me use small words for you my retarded dyel friend
THAT THERE IS NO STUDY DONE TO DATE PROVING THAT PERMANENT SUPPRESSION EXISTS IS NOT SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO MAKE THE CLAIM THAT PERMANENT SUPPRESSION DOES NOT EXIST
do you know how little human clinical research has actually been done on anabolics you fucking mongoloid? oh but I see, you just finished your first year at uni, you are an expert
how do those faggots take only bloating drugs(test/dbol maybe nandrolone) and still remained tight and dry? I think AIs weren't that popular at the time.
Is it just good genetics and low carbs?
You can cut or bulk on any compound. Some just make more sense than others for goals. I don't think AIs were used either. I'm guessing they used mad diuretics before shoots though.
my quality of aesthetic life definitely improved a lot when I started taking aldactone.
Yeah I guess eating only clean really cuts down on the bloat, eating chinese food or carb+salty shit even on a deficit gives me the moonies.
I posted this in another thread earlier but didnt really get a response:
My buddy gave me a half cycle (about 4 weeks worth) of oral Anavar. He decided he would rather keep partying and drinking and didnt want to do damage to his liver, so he stopped taking it.
>Im starting a cut soon, is it even worth taking 4 weeks worth?
>do you think ill see any results?
>Is it ok to slowly ween myself off and not do any PCT since its such a short period of time?
Anavar doesn't really do much. Just save it for when you run an actual cycle and throw it in there because why the hell not. Anavar is really tame; doesn't do much damage to your liver either. It's not even worth the money, but you got it for free...
What is your opinion on self absorbed people?
I have 2 friends who are like this, all they ever talk about is themselves and they don't shed a thought on anyone else.
Normally I can handle it, ignore it.
I don't have a lot of friends so I keep the ones I can get. But fuck... every time I go on a cycle I have to call them out on their BS.
I just get so fed up with the constant self glorification and self obsession.
Do any of you have friends like this? What should I do about it?
Yes let me google it when I can just as easily ask it in a thread dedicated to frauds. Just to make it a little harder on myself
Yeah exactly. In all honesty, I dont know that I ever will run an actual cycle. Mainly because I dont know where to get it. The guy I got the var from had a guy but he moved away.
Considering I got it for free, I figured maybe it would do SOMETHING for me when I run a deficit and cut down...but you guys know more than me, maybe it wont really do anything?
Im 5'11 175lbs and probably around 18% bf
are you fucking retarded
I'm literally saying there is no evidence to substantiate any claim that permanent suppression exists, which you somehow spin into me stating that permanent suppression is a myth
here I'll actually fucking say it
!GIVEN ALL CURRENT DATA!
there is no evidence to support any hypothesis of aas causing permanent gonadal suppression
have I said it in enough fucking ways that one of them got past your extra chromosomes and actually got your two brain cells to start plodding along?
>I make them not friends anymore. ANYONE who waits to talk instead of listens needs to be phased out of your life. Its soul sucking and you'll never feel accepted by them.
Thanks, I feel like this is solid advice.
If I can be serious for a minute.
During some of my teenage years, like 13-16 I was incredibly scrawny. 6'3" 135 pounds was my lowest. Pretty unhealthy. The auschwitz was real.
I always had a bad ego, but it just wasn't able to manifest itself since I had nothing to sustain it. I'd look in the mirror and be disgusted, wear perma hoodie.
Anyway I started lifting and made some pretty sick gains as a natural. I was staring at myself in my mirror for ~10 minutes a day because I was finally happy with who I was.
Eventually I started using gear which is when my ego REALLY started to kick in.
Subconciously I am always trying to be le tough guy. At my height and current weight (210 8%) I get lots of people calling me the swole giant etc. It inflates my ego even more. I am not really afraid of anyone because I haven't met many people who are smaller than me.
Basically the point of this post is to just let you know that steroids really do affect you mentally, just not directly. I always had an ego, it just wasnt around until I had something to back it up.
meh, he did it with another one of our friends, the kid ran a full cycle of it and got shredded AF.
And he says he still drank on it, but he and I went to a big state uni and the amount of alcoholic intake is pretty absurd. I can see why he would be concerned.
What I gathered from this is that you had a very poor self-image and you rely on the confirmation from others that you are good enough.
And now you're fueling this detrimental and temporary well-being by acting tough and cool.
It doesn't seem like that is a recipe for success.
What happens when you lose your body? or if some bigger tougher guy comes along and makes you his bitch?
The irony of that reply is astonishing.
>me me me
Of course I had a poor self image. 6'3" 135 pounds, let that sink in.
I don't have dysmorphia or any of the other crap that typical roid users have. In fact I think I look really goooood. If I see some hot bitch in front of me at the gym doing stiff-legged deadlifts I'd rather look in the mirror.
So yeah, these days I DEFINITELY don't have a poor self-image. I don't rely on other peoples confirmation but it definitely feels good when people tell me how lean and muscular I look.
When I lose my body I will be old and not give a fuck. Y'know, hopefully married and with kids by then. And as for the bigger guy, fuck him.
>When I lose my body I will be old and not give a fuck. Y'know, hopefully married and with kids by then. And as for the bigger guy, fuck him.
>finds girl that's attracted to tough guys
>no more compliments
>people see through your shallow exterior attitude
>wife was attracted to a tough, respected guy
>cheats on you
>loss of child custody due to whore wife telling them all about your drug use
>turn to more drug use to feel good again
My first ever cycle was tren and test. I ran 350mg tren and 175mg test. Pretty much no sides except sleep and mood issues. Then I cruised on 300mg of test and had problems. Acne, bloat, etc.
Srsly wtf is going on
>hookup with grill
>seemed very into me/the sex
>text her few days after to hang out
>after not talking to her for ~2 weeks she sends me a nude
>send back a shirtless pic
>she wants to hang out again
>few days later just texted her to come over
>read but no response
Wtf is wrong with girls
<spoiler>or is it me?</spoiler>
girls do this thing where they use guys for sex too.
It's like when you're focused on one girl in particular but when she's not responding and you want to put you're wee-wee in someone you go to girl #2.
Fuckin hope not
She loved the sex and kept saying she wanted to come back, but now Im being played?
I mean I want nothing more from her than sex so idk what the issue is. She has a bangin body so she's the first priority
i'd say you need juice to look significantly big, my buddy is 6' 5", has a great natty physique, and slays bitches, you also have a loooooot of room left to grow being only at 170. You'll make it.
'Permanent suppression' is called damage, nigger.
There is sufficient evidence to claim that steroids most likely do not cause damage to HPTA when proper measures are taken. To say otherwise is like saying...
> you can't prove that caffeine doesn't cause genital warts!
> take nazi gf to Chinatown for birthday, spend all day there, then driving to IKEA
> "hey you wanna make out when we get to IKEA"
> get to IKEA, park where there's no people
> make out
> come back to reality
> literally surrounded by mexicans, women, children, and old people
> no fucks given, go in IKEA, come out, go at it again
Is sex in public still a crime? I bet ya'll uncultured fucks didn't celebrate Chinese New Year.
Probably went subq or just inflammation from virgin site.
I want to say it's from llewyns anabolic but I could be wrong, it's posted relatively often, I'm thinking of giving really high protein like 1.5-2g per lb a shot this cycle and seeing if there's really truth to the idea that I'll make more gains that way than with 1g
Just opened up a PO box. I shouldn't have to worry about domestic orders right? Should I ship some other stuff to it too as well? Or does that even really matter if I'm just getting very small domestic orders? Maybe 1 every couple of months.
This is why I stopped responding
It's literally the same argument saying there IS a god
>No evidence of god exists
>Oh so you're saying god DOES exist because you can't prove he doesn't
>No there is literally no evidence for it and it's likely to not exist given the total lack of data
>Knew it. God exists
It's just that misinformation that exists thanks to the constant fear mongering about roids.
He tried to say you have to PCT for longer after B&C as well. Because you know, there's so much evidence that, that is a thing.
Anyone have a protocol for switching from test e to test u? Or has anyone made the switch? The chief is tempting me.
I don't trust robots
just ordered my test e (more), tren e and mast for my summer cut.
looks like this
test e 250mg/wk
tren e 400mg/wk
mast e havent figure out what i want to do
Cardarine - 20mg/day
t3 - 150mcg/day
might throw in some superdrol to start off this glorious stack
yeah it can take it ;]
This is a picture i took two months ago. im a little bit bigger now. i was 250mg/week test e in this picture, about 1.5 months in. I know i look week for being on gear, but whatever, first time using steroids.
im going to get after pictures for the stack, see what has happened
Probably shedding your uterine lining, considering you're running an oral only cycle.
General anecdotal consensus is to do anywhere between 4-6 pins of test e while the u builds.
I love it. I get zero bloat even without watching sodium. Puts on size fast and cushions joints. My personal favorite hormone. Tren is good too though. Favorite stack I ever ran was high test high deca high mast.
nice, i tend to bloat pretty quick. constantly taking aromasin to fix it. shits expensive.
personally im fine with orals and test, however im excited to adventure into the world of mast and tren.
How does this look for a 12 week cycle?
Anavar 50mg ED 1-4
Test C 600mg Weekly 1-14
Deca Durabolin 400mg weekly 1-14
Arimidex .5mg ED 1-14
HCG 250iu E4D 1-14
TUDCA (Ursofalk) 500mg ED 1-4
PCT 4 weeks
Adex .5 EOD
Tamoxifen 20mg ED
I'm using var for the first 4 weeks, because I want to lose about 3-5% fat, and after that, I'm gonna bulk till the end of the PCT, once I finish PCT, I'll do some maintenance.
I'm planning on using Prami for the prolactin issues, I'll start with .125, and I hope to increase the dose upt to 1mg by week 3.
Prami will be used while on cycle, and after week 14 I'll start tapering it down to counteract the remaining Deca, and also avoid withdrawal issues.
TUDCA is obviously against liver damage by Anavar.
Also I wanna take dutasteride/avodart, because on my past cycle I'm almost certainly sure, that my hair thinned a little bit, and I'm worried about going bald, I know that eventually, If i have the genetic trait, I'll lose it anyways, but I'd rather lose it until I'm 40, and not at 23yo. But the thing with avodart is that idk exactly how much dosing should I take while on cycle.
What do you think guys?
i feel as if running deca and anavar together is a waste of anavar. Then again, iv never done deca.
second note: why not just cruise on some test e after this cycle? fuck stopping cold turkey, insta-gains loss.
Why would you think it's a prohormone because it made you lethargic? Man I hate people who give sarms bad names. Sarms can shut you down, they aren't perfected yet, you're getting shut down so you're feeling lethargic...
I'll answer since you've obviously done some research.
Switch adex for asin. Trust me on this, I was acne free all cycle but estro rebound from coming off adex gave me months of cystic acne.
Switch deca for NPP. Deca isn't worth it for a cycle under 20 weeks imo. NPP will give you same benefits faster and it won't linger.
Hcg isn't necessary for this cycle but won't hurt.
I'd also switch prami for caber if you have the money.
Last thing I'd say is switch out var for a better oral. Var recks lipids and sucks compared to every other oral. If I could go back in time my first cycle would be;
Adrol or dbol 40mg ed; wk 1-6
TUDCA 500mg ed; 1-6
Test c 600; 1-20
NPP 400: 3-20
Asin 12.5 e3d
Caber 0.25mg e3d
Pct: Nolva 40/40/20/20 wks 22-26
Fuck your you're welcome I never type that much ever
I'll see if I can get NPP, I'm reading about it and sounds really good.
Adex or asin, I still get horrible acne on chest, shoulders and back, not on my face luckily, I don't know what to do about it.
I'm too afraid about leaky heart valve, so I'm really avoiding caber.
I was thinking of var because of the small cut I wanted to do, but well, I guess I can drop some fat before I get everything to start the cycle, so maybe I'll take Drol.
lifting for three years, plateauing hard:
190, 6' 205 OHP, 315 bench, 355x5 Squat, 445 DL
catch is I'm 19. I've heard from practically everyone not to cycle until I'm 22. Is there anything I could do to give myself an edge without fucking myself over?
Currently only appeasing the powdered jew: creatine monohydrate and whey.