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By drug-free, I'm referring to not using:

- Alcohol
- Nicotine
- Steroids/performance enhancers
- Any legal or illegal substance used specifically for recreation

(I say this in order to ward off any tards who suggest coffee, sugar, artificial sweeteners and the like are also drugs.)
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I haven't drank in three months, feels good man.

And haven't been actual drunk in years, getting drunk to the point where you vomit is fucking stupid, also all drugs are bad no matter how people word it.

Oh but braaah weed is natural, yeah the natural fucking herbal jew that will rot your mind, same with mdma and all that shit, forcing your serotonin levels into overdrive for a few hours is a good idea?

No thanks nigga.

Pic related, me.
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>>35921721
Yes, drug free for a few years now. No sugar (meaning sucrose) and artificial sweeteners either.
I drink coffee though.
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>>35921721
straight edge hold your x's up proudly
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Hijacking dumb thread. How many times a week can I take caffeine pills without fucking up tolerance? I already feel like I want to take them everyday (lol caffeine addict!!!) but obviously that's a poor idea.
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>>35921772
FEELTHEBERN
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I drink cannabis tincture and do mushrooms.
Come at me weirdos.
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>>35921721
caffeine is a psychoactive drug you uneducated git
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>>35921851

Read the opening post, please
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>>35921808
Fuck yea, m8. XXX
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I consider myself edge, not into recreational drugs. I'll use ibuprofen and acetaminophen when lifting, though.
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>>35921953
I did, and it doesn't make sense.
>I'm drug free except for alcohol and weed because that's what I want drug free to mean
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use this to cut m8, wont have to worry bout gains
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>>35921721

I only smoke weed every day (vape, actually, for the health benefits). I'm in a masters' engineering program doing very well and my lifts are decent enough (lifting for 4 years for both some strength and aesthetics

weed makes my every day better and I will never, ever stop
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>>35921839
I take one as pre-workout on each training day, none on rest days and don't drink coffee or green/black tea
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>>35922115

You're not what I'm looking for
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>>35922137
That's what I was thinking but I do a 5 day split. Is taking caffeine PWO 5 days a week too much? Should I just have one or two days without caffeine?
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>>35922080
Technically caffeine is a drug, but it's kind of negligible, as it has basically no known damaging effects at all, you can't actually get addicted to it and human tolerance is very high.

I mean, I'm not staying drug free so that someone gives me a medal. I stay drug free because I believe it's healthy. I see no real benefits in not drinking my cup of coffee in the morning.
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>no wee
>no narcotics
>no hard drugs

Yes to caffeine
Yes to nicotine
A beer or two a month.

But I dont want to consider weed a drug. To me drug is like, Oxycontin.
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>>35921772
Have you ever fucked on MDMA? Or coke? ..no... Well... Let me tell you my virgin friend, it is one of the best experiences you will ever have.
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>>35922158
>- Any legal or illegal substance used specifically for recreation

sorry to invade your faggot thread, then
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>>35922215
>fucked on MDMA

I've never been able to fuck on MDMA. I take molly at festivals but by the time the music is over I'm completely fucking spent.
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All drug-using degenerates, keep out
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>>35922298
smoking a bowl right now, just for you. It's not drugs, though, because that's how I feel
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>>35922309

Nobody cares how you feel.
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>>35922253
>be me hanging out with girl I know planning a night out
>get hold of some MDMA, but we decide to give it a test run before the big night out just in case it's just brown sugar
>we start listening to music, all of a sudden she starts opening up and being super loving towards me, the cuddling feels amazing, she just lays on my chest.
>I can feel her rubbing herself on me, dontcare.JPEG cos it feels good.
>next thing I know she's in panties doing the same shit.
>I keep trying to get hard but MDMA doesn't let me
>end up putting my limp dick in her anyway
>we chatted for ages with my dick in her for the whole night having sporadic sex here and there but never actually taking my dick out.
This truly was the best time I have ever had with a girl.
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>>35922324
I care
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Why do druggies insist on posting in threads that are not meant for them?
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>>35921721
I drink a couple beers every now and then, I also ingest caffeine which is a legal performance enhancer.
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I could barley walk yesterday.Then I smoked a few joints last night for the first time in over 5 years. The pain from a bulging disk in my lower back is almost nonexistent now.
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>>35921721
Use to roll/trip often in college.
Smoked weed hourly.
Gave it all up after college with getting a job, living on my own and using my degree. Looking back with being /fit/ and healthy now, I'm thankful I'm still alive after those long largepupil-fast-talking-vague-embarrassing-filled nights.
........sometimes I still miss that feeling though.
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>>35922215
>Have you ever fucked on MDMA?
You bought bunk MDMA
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>>35921721
yeah, shits alright

>>35921808
please no
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>>35922409

You probably got that pain from bending over for your dealer.
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>>35921772
edgy
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>>35922620

No, I made up my own mind about drugs. I can think for myself.
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>>35921721
there's a few drugs that are "worth it"

- shrooms
- GHB
- LSD

sporadically is awesum skates.

tfw GHB increases HGH 50%.
tfw you gain if you do GHB.
mfw tfw
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I use coffee and pre workout while also taking NSAIDS and Paracetamol to reduce joint pain. I also use knee sleeves, oly shoes and a lifting belt.

I don't take juice, but I am definitely not "natural".
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>>35921721

I've smoked meth then fucked 2 sexy black Indian chicks.


Does that count?
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>>35922697
>thinking HGH makes you big
Lmao
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>>35922766

Hmm, tough call. @_@
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>>35922766
>not doing nocum
This is a straight edge thread
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>>35922697
>shrooms
>lsd
>worth it

hahahahahah man there are some tards on this board.

opiates or bust. dont gamble with your psyche. at least I know when Im gonna get high I am definitely gonna have a good time and not a shit time.
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>>35922456

Stimdick is a result of added stimulants, usually amphetamines. Straight up MDMA isn't strong enough on the amphetamine side to effect erectile performance unless you take too much or have a per-existing erectile disorder.
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>>35922800

I know, if it was 2 guys then it would be off topic.
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>>35922806

This.

Or maybe Benzos

>tfw I work at a hospital ward that doesn't catalouge its supply of valium

Could probably steal some if I wanted
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>>35922800

Most people here forgot that.
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>>35921721
>tfw roiding, on amphetamines, doing acid/shrooms/molly/coke every few months, and smoking weed daily
eat a dick opie
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>>35922800

>straight edge

underage b&
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>>35922881
I wish I had that kind of money and free time :(
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>>35922235
THANK YOU SUPREME GENTLEMAN
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>>35922881

No thanks
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>>35921808

>Skip the addiction
>Jump right into recovery hugbox\

Straight edge
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>>35922849
Benzos are trouble. I've been addicted to both opens and benzos and I'd take my heroin addiction over my xnax addiction every day of the week
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>Party Drug
MDMA
>by myself or chillin with my bro
DXM

also mdma > coke every single time
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>>35922946

But it's good for sleep gains. Friend of mine takes valium before bed and he gets 8hrs every night.
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>>35922894
i get the weed dirt cheap at a dispensary in the Valley, and get discounts from a dealer friend on the rest. doesnt take up much free time unless you gount the 2 or so saturdays a month i spend tripping
>tfw LSD Shrooms and DMT have ceased my cluster headaches
>>35922922
i wasnt offering
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>>35922365
>Nobody cares
>I care
thank you for confirming that you are nobody
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>>35922966

That's right, 'cause you don't have one.
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I am OP. Used to be a bit of a druggie in my late teens and early 20's. Straight edge now and don't even drink. Life is better now.
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>>35923158

>straight edge jokes
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>>35922714
What the fuck does that even mean
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>>35921721
I just roid because it's completely safe unless you're retarded
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>>35921721

I don't use anymore.

However, if I'm talking to someone and they disclose that they're straight edge without any provocation, then I tell them I use everything. Their reactions are comedy gold
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>>35923190

That's awesome.

>>35923200

Gotta work with what they give me.
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>>35923271
>this is what roidfags actually believe
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>>35923322

>I must respond to someone who chooses to live a different lifestyle than mine
>When I respond, I must with middle school level jokes because that was when my social development ended.

You guys are easily provoked and it's hilarious
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>>35921721
anyone use kratom who lifts?

I used to use it alot for pain relief.

i am now thinking about using it for my sore muscles after lifting, is this a good idea

i just quit alcohol and i dont smoke
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>>35923409

I've used it, but only to kick heroin.


It's got some effective pain relieving properties, but you don't want to rely on it too much. Also, the DOMS go away after a while.

Check out erowid, they've got more info on regular use and its effects
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I am de facto drug free because even though I have no problem drinking alcohol or smoking pot, for some reason I almost never do. Like, maybe once every two month, and I never buy any.

Other than that only coffee.
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Drug free here. Occasional drinking up to the point you feel light-headed doesn't count, right?
I do have a psychological addiction to technology (mindlessly browsing the net and playing vidya), though lifting kinda helps and I do believe that getting a decent gf will let me leave it back.
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>>35923466

>drug free
>still uses
>doesn't buy them


You are the absolute worst
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>>35923519
>do have a psychological addiction to technology

Get out of here with your meme diagnosis.

I bet you also think you have psycopathy and a wicked sense of humour too.
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>>35921808

XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD
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>>35921851

He said taking drugs for the purpose of recreation. I agree that it's silly to make the distinction, but that's what OP means.
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>>35923545
By psychological I mean non-chemical, tech addiction is psychological by definition. I did not imply it's a psychological disorder.
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>>35923537
If you call having a moderate amount a few times a year using, then yes.
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>>35923603

No, you're the worst because when you decide to use you mooch. Everyone hates that guy
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>>35922208

> I don't want to consider weed a drug

This is fucking ridiculous. I've used a lot of drugs (compared to the average person) and I've been more fucked up smoking weed than Oxy. It's about dose, setting, etc.

I agree weed isn't a "hard drug" but where do you draw the "hard drug" line, and why do you put it there?
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>>35923355

It's not about lifestyle. It's about a reflection of one's character, their ignorance, their carelessness, their egotism.
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>>35923644
I also steal lighters and piss on the walls in public bathrooms
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Drugs have their positive and negative qualities, no one can deny this. The problems arise when people start losing sight of the fact that they are actually using drugs and start trying to justify their use so as to hide the fact that they are no longer in control
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>>35923645
>where do you draw the "hard drug" line

Kill yourself; there is a definition for this. Hard drugs lead to physical addiction, this includes nicotine and alcohol, among other socially accepted things.
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>>35923680

Exactly, those who identify as straight edge frequently project their personal shortcomings on those who use.
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>>35923713

You didn't answer his question.

No need to be defensive, it is a valid question
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>>35923717

And vice versa.
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>coffee, sugar, artificial sweeteners and the like are also drugs
They stimulate a dopamine flood just like your standard illicit drugs, though.
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>>35923680

>reflection of one's character

Prejudice and stereotyping are poor character traits

>their ignorance

Like assuming users and addicts are all the same

>carelessness

Isn't it careless to make blind assumptions?

>egotism

Ironic, isn't it? You look down upon so many people and hold yourself in such high regard for doing something that most people can do without a second thought.


What you need to practice in empathy
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Same

I've had about 2 people get really defensive and awkward when I told them
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>>35923790

I'm aware of that, but I had outlined what drugs I was referring to in the OP. No need to nitpick.
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>>35923752
I'll indulge your sophomoric response.

How so?
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>>35923823
There is a reason to nitpick because the dopamine flood is the real reason why drugs are addictive since it's an easy, large reward. You can't be selective in that when they have similar mechanisms of action.
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>>35923752

>straight edge rebuttal

Next up:

>I know you are, but what am I

Followed by:

>I am rubber, you are glue
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Sober and clean since November 2012. I have lots of energy, my mood is usually good, my thinking is much clearer than before. My skin looks good and I look healthy.

I'm lonely though. Don't know how to socialize without substances. I've been to a few 12 step meetings but I find it too hard to speak up.
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Just the occasional LSD and DMT. So those aren't exactly "casual" use drugs. Used to do one or the other weekly, but now it's really once in a blue moon. So, drug-free except for occasional psychs in the jungle or whatever.
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>>35923836

Because druggies typically label anyone who doesn't do drugs as socially inferior and brainwashed by propaganda.
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>>35923713

Whoa bro.

I understand that there is a definition, but how many people do you know who would NEVER consider nicotine a hard drug, or would NEVER consider alcohol a hard drug? There is a cultural understanding of that term, and I believe most people wouldn't put alcohol in the hard drug camp.

I also believe that, while physical addiction is obviously worse, psychological addiction can be pretty crippling. I was, at one point, addicted to weed (smoked daily, at least 10 big bong bowls, did not stop until I fell asleep). The only time I wasn't smoking weed was when I was at work, because the job I had would have been too hard to do high.

When I stopped smoking for a time, it took about 5 days for the headaches to go away, about 10 days to be able to fall asleep soundly without it, and over month to stop thinking about weed constantly. I'd say this addiction was pretty real and had a pretty significant impact on my life, even though weed isn't a "hard drug."
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>>35923790

Food also does this; is food a drug?
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>>35923752


>implying a user/addict would acknowledge your existence, let alone care enough to engage in psychological projection.

You are not their drug. If you cannot provide them their drug, then you don't exist. This is what addiction is, kiddo. get your head out of your ass
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>>35923885

That's a rather ignorant and egotistical assumption to make. Can you back that up with any empirical evidence?
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Tried weed once back when I was in college, I couldn't get hit off of it so I didn't feel like trying it again.
I don't want to try any hard drugs though, scared of getting addicted.
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>>35923733
>>35923733
It's not a fucking valid question. You don't put a "hard drug" line. A hard drug is a drug that is physically addictive; it's not a subjective matter.
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>>35923871
>I'm lonely though. Don't know how to socialize without substances. I've been to a few 12 step meetings but I find it too hard to speak up.

I hear you bro. I've been clean since April 2014 and I'm struggling with the loneliness. My best friend died of a heroin overdose in November and I've been going to NA since, but I just can't bring myself to make any connections
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>>35923917

> That's a rather ignorant and egotistical assumption to make.

Probably, but that's my experience at least.
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>>35923871
>Hi, I'm Anon, and I am an Addict. I can relate to that topic of [whatever the chair topic gives out for suggestion]. It's because I [relate your story to topic]. E.g.

I can really appreciate gratitude. While in active addiction, I could not be grateful for anything. I always wanted more. Even when I got what I wanted, I couldn't get enough. That's the addiction in me talking. To it, nothing is enough. So, I stole, lie, cheat and manipulated to get more and more even though it resulted in me having more resentments for not having more. But, through the NA program, I learned about true gratitude. And with that I pass.

With sharing something like that, just watch the sponsees line up, especially the chicks who want to 13-step.
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>>35923337
You weak autismos believe otherwise
Have fun being forever below your potential
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>>35923946

>Lashing out in anger to justify your marijuana addiction

Sorry.


Get help, friend
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>>35923979


>my experience

Go on. Let's hear this anecdotal evidence that justifies your ignorance and egotism.
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>>35923979

So you can confirm that you are projecting your own shortcomings on anyone you consider a drug user?
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>>35924001

Well, the way this thread turned out speaks for itself.
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>>35921772
you're really missing out on mdma/acid, man. if done properly in the right setting the fun to be had is out of this world
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>>35924032


No, you speak for yourself, right?

Are you saying that you have no conviction for your straight edge lifestyle?

Are your beliefs personal? Are they based on some kind of specific experience or evidence? Or are you simply parroting the convictions of another individual or individuals?

Right or wrong, someone who truly believes in their beliefs shouldn't have any trouble speaking about them and where they come from.
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>>35921721
I am, and have always been. Mainly because I never understood why I would want to ingest any substance that basically does nothing but negative things to my body and has the potential of addiction, then actually PAY for that shit.
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>>35921721
Coffee (or rather caffeine) is a drug whether you like it or not. It's even brain altering. It fucks with your neurotransmitters in order to induce an adrenalin (or epinephrine) response. It's very effective and quite safe in moderation but it is no less of a drug than alcohol or pain killers. If you get to redefine a definition to give yourself a warm and fuzzy feeling about being drug free then you are no better than any other drug user.
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>tfw this thread inspired me to go get a twelve pack of hefeweizen from the faggy "straight edge" teen posters

You guys are such insufferable fags. Can't you do what you want without being obnoxious about it?
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>>35924081

> you're really missing out

Yes, put us on a guilt trip. That'll convince us.
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>>35922806

how is it 'gambling' with your psyche?
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>>35924131

Who's trying to convince who?
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>>35924100

Best post yet. I concur 100%
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>>35924168
He's probably referring to gambling whether you are gonna have a good trip or a bad one.
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>>35924185

I concur 100% that you concur
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>>35924115

I think you're just insecure in your drug addiction, so you have to label everyone as a drug user by bringing up substances like caffeine. Those are the worst kind of druggies. I've heard it all before. I know the types of arguments you like to make.
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>>35924032


>letting anyone or anything else speak for you


Straight edge confirmed for a cult


But that's nothing new.
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I didn't intend for this thread to be about what drugs you do or don't do. I was just trying to see who doesn't do drugs, and NOT who does them.
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>>35924314
People who don't do drugs as per your stupid definition:

>Underage b&
>Mormons
>Autists with nobody to do them with
>Sanctimonious tools who go "straight edge" to feel superior (lots of overlap with the autists and Mormons here)
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>>35922115
Good luck getting a job in your field after failing every drug test you take :) You're making us all very proud.
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>>35922179
You can absolutely get addicted to caffeine. Ask anyone who drank coffee every day for a long time and quit suddenly. I got horrible headaches every day for months when I did. Eventually they stopped, but I'm terrified to start drinking coffee regularly again. That shit fucking sucked.
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>>35924115
>but it is no less of a drug than alcohol or pain killers.
Yes, it is "less of a drug" than those two. You pretend like a substance can only either be a drug or not, like it's completely binary. But you can actually sort drugs by their addictive potential, their health effects etc. In that context, caffeine is hardly worth mentioning, whereas alcohol and pain killers have literally destroyed the lives and even killed millions and millions of people. So don't pretend like it's all relative and depends on random definitions. Caffeine is simply negligible when talking about drugs.
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>>35922954

>DXM

I tried this, got the brown liquid from a whole bottle of delsym.

Needless to say, I thought I was going to die and at one point felt like I was burning alive.
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>>35924216
Except by your definitions I'm not a drug addict. I don't drink, smoke, use edibles ect. The only drugs I consume are the occasional cup of coffee maybe once every couple of weeks if I need a pick-me-up for a workout and maybe a pain killer if I have a headache or something. oh I took a proton inhibitor for an ulcer a couple months ago too. The difference is I don't run around claiming I'm drug free because im clearly not. Caffeine is a recreational drug you nimrod. Why do you think cafes exist. They were literally created as a recreational setting where people get together to consume caffeine in a social environment. In many counties they still are.
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>>35924369
So antibiotics aren't drugs?
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>>35924416

Okay, I understand that, but I would think most people drink caffeinated beverages for the taste. I used to consume drinks like Full Throttle and Monster every day, because they tasted good. But I still was aware of their caffeine content, and willingly gave them up when I felt that they were starting to affect me negatively. I'm not denying that caffeine is a drug, but I don't view it as a "first-tier" drug the way illegal substances, alcohol, etc. are.
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>>35924453
That's just a weakness of the English language that it doesn't differentiate "drugs" in the sense of substances that are used for recreation with addictive potential and "drugs" in the sense of medicine/medicaments/remedies. You can discuss this with yourself if you like.
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I'm so hungover today. I'm never setting foot in a bar again. Absolutely nothing good comes from it. Fuck alcohol.
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>>35922095
It's also a fucking miraculous preworkout.
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>>35924470
If the opening post had simply made an exception for coffee on the bases of a lack of overdose potential (though that leaves caffeine pills on the hook) that's fine but he shouldn't make the retarded claim that only retards think coffee is a drug.
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>>35924511
Where does that leave opiates?
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i don't like smoking weed that much and don't like to drink because I am always driving, and also the party crowd where I live has a lot of asshole hipsters/bros, but I've recently figured out that smoking and partying helps me come in contact with so many hot grills. I am a hand holdless, kissless virgin, but look ok and am stronger than most dudes my age. I'm not even that awkward around girls, just scared to ask out girls in normal settings like school because I don't want my classes with them to be awkward if they say no. What do bros?
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>>35924511
That's because there is no difference.
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>>35921721


I only use coke at parties. Shit is fucking cash
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>>35924624
Just remind yourself that it's way more awkward for them. Assuming you're being truthful about your desirability which on this website isn't too likely.
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>>35923871
shit man me too. Clean and sober since 2011, stopped hanging out with all my druggie friends and went through a period of isolation where I started to sort my life out. I'm in the best shape of my life, my skin is glowing, I feel better than I ever have.. but I have no friends and struggle to let down my guard when I'm sober, which is all the time.

Got a gf for a while but she left a couple months ago. Feels bad man.
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>>35924612
>>35924627
>Let's talk about semantics instead of the thing itself.
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>>35924754

>having a discussion with someone who can't properly express themselves.
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>>35924822
>Having a discussion with someone who acts like a retard to evade the topic.
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>>35924643
As I said, I look OK. I have a potato nigger face, kind of rough with big nose. Because of cycling and ss, my legs are also kind of disproportionate to my upper body, and my bench is complete shit, but I guess by normie standards I have a somewhat strong upper body. Idk man. All I know is that I'm not that ugly because some girls I know for sure think I'm "cute" but I don't know what they mean by cute, whether like a cucked weakling teddybear "cute" or actually good cute. Fuck man maybe I should just go for wizardry and not worry about grills of drugs anymore, only gains and vidya.
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>>35924882
Ss + roids? Oh you didn't tell me you were an idiot too. Pack it up. No girl will ever agree to date you. Then they'd have to interact with you while they're sober.
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>>35924846

>throwing insults to evade the topic is perfectly acceptable

You're better than that, familia
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>not using steroids for maximum gainz
>not drinking reasonably in social contex
>not taking MDMA every 6 months or so at music shows
It's like you don't even know what moderation is. I don't smoke weed though, it makes me anxious
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>>35924923
Cycling as in biking. Kek, forgot about /fit/ lingo. I'm on a mountain bike team, not on roids.
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>>35924942
Thanks
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>>35921804
Wow! Good for you
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I've literally never consumed any drugs or alcohol.

I haven't read this thread yet but I'm sure someone thinks lowly of me because of it. Am I right? Have there been the same, stupid arguments?
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>>35924972

You're welcome. Too much negativity on this board. We need to hold each other to a higher standard.
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>>35924999

No, just the usual teasing of the straight edge twerps
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faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggots
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>>35921721
>not using meth as an occasional enhancing drug
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>>35923009

We 5th grade naow
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>>35925230

Welcome to straight edge
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>>35924960
Oh. Shit I've been on fit too long. Then you're not likely to be as I'll proportioned as you believe.
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- Alcohol
No.
- Nicotine
Nope. Not in any form. Don't want to ruin my taste buds.
- Steroids/performance enhancers
Cheating is for faggots (not exclusively gay people)
- Any legal or illegal substance used specifically for recreation
I am of disgust.

Coffee, sugar, artificial sweeteners
Rarely, Yes, Never.

My family is full of high functioning addicts (Alcohol, Nicotine, etc)
I have a pretty addictive personality myself.
It's messed up craving alcohol / tobacco / any thing to deal with 'stuff' even before you've ever tried them.. So I do my best to stay away. Not even underage.
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20 y/o in college and yah I use a fuck ton of drugs. Slowed down on weed but will smoke a couple times a week. Rolled 10 times in the last 6 months, currently taking a huge break. Get drunk 3-4 nights a week (usually take a xanax while drinking) and either do coke or amphetamine sulfate. Had a long talk with this girl who is basically my gf and I recognize I need to slow down and stop before I fail out of college. Also I trip occasionally, prefer shrooms over L but have done L twice in the last couple weeks. Basically I've been a shit head in college having too much fun and I need to moderate and focus on my classes. On a scholarship too, if I lose this idk if I could live with myself. Just hard because I'm in a fraternity and the environment of partying and socializing with girls goes hand in hand with drugs. Gonna try to stay sober (except for weed) for 6 weeks until Spring Break and prove I can do it. I don't think I've gone more than 5 days without getting fucked up since I was 18 and my family has addiction issues on both sides so I definitely need to get this in check. Any tips brahs? Maybe I need to start reading or some shit, used to read a lot. Also, my friends and room mate from last year are both dealers so they are always trying to get fucked up.
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>>35921721

I've used every drug outside of RC's. I've recently reigned it back in to just alcohol, weed, and the occasional coke
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>>35921721
Don't drink alcohol because it dosn't sit well in my stomach
Both parents smoked growing up so can't stand smoking anything (cigarettes, cigars, weed)
No steroids, just trying to get less fat now
No medications of any kind, I don't even like to take Tylenol when I get a headache.
Love me some coffee though
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>>35921804
>drug free
>I drink coffee though

so you're not drug free?
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>>35921804
caffeine is a drug, retard
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>>35922179
>you can't actually get addicted to it
stay addicted coffee slave
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>>35922806
These drugs that have actual benefit to your mental wellbeing are "gambling with your psyche"

These opiates that are highly addictive, horrible for your health, and offer no benefit other than short-term physical euphoria are clearly the way to go.

moron.
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>>35922208
>but I don't want to consider weed a drug
How's smoking weed for you going? I'm sure that you're not addicted to it at all, and you're just an underachiever, right?
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>>35926251

see

>>35923713
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>>35926264
NaCl
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>>35925809
Stop all drugs. Leave shithead friends for now, while you detox. Join a Christian Frat. Helpful environment, people who genuinely want to see you make it, minimal drugs/sex. Even if you aren't Christian, better than being loaded on drugs all the time with drug dealer friends.
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>>35922714
I heard NSAIDS affect your joints in the long run
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>>35926725
>Join a Christian Frat
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>>35926725
you are human pleated khakis
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>>35926725
My fraternity is huge (120+ guys) and most are actually pretty religious and just drink. The friends that are involved in more serious shit were neighbors in the dorms with me last year. I came to college knowing completely no one and have had great experiences with them but I do need to minimize hanging out with them. They actually aren't in fraternities at all. I'm an atheist, not hating on christianity but I just don't think that's my thing. I have a 3.00 GPA in mech engineering and plenty of normal friends, but I seem to be trying to sabotage myself. Going to take some time away from it all and focus on school (what I'm here for in the first place) and lifting. Meals are at the fraternity so I will still stop by, and I actually have brothers in my engineering classes. Just need to reassess my priorities and make better decisions.
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I turn up on coffee once in a while on a weekend. I give it extra care and use my french press. Used to be a junkie and do all sorts of drinking and drugging. Third year into sobriety. Still get a bit salty with potheads telling me about how weed addiction isn't real and they just smoke every day cause they're committed and not addicted.
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Just got an aggravated dui last night and ruined my car. Probably going to jail. It was never worth it.
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>>35926931
Rambling on, I've had several attractive GFs throughout my life, been blessed with above average intelligence, am tall and I recognize that I am so extremely fortunate to be in the position I am. Father was abusive and I had the worst self confidence for ever. The fraternity helped me open up to people but I also found myself constantly trying to get fucked up. Think my drug use, etc comes down to a lack of confidence or belief in myself really. Need to start looking towards other outlets to gain worth from and all. Not to sound like a dick but if I met a lot of channers irl they would think I was a Chad. Have hooked up with a lot of hot sorority girls, have girls constantly texting me, large following on social media (just deleted btw, felt like I was living my life for others and that the likes from pictures were giving me more satisfaction than the actual event I was at) but deep down I'm still as lost and depressed as yall. Guess I just need to chill out on the drugs and focus on whats important. Should all work out.
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>>35921721
drug
drəɡ/
noun
1.
a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.

better stop eating protein its a drug bro.

you straight edge people are dumb. you just wanna be a special little snowflake.

>you're not.
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>>35927052
proof that drugs fuck your brain up.
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>>35927074
hipster detected
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>>35927035
nah bro do drugs. it works out just fine. fuck society bro. using drugs makes you unique.
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Yeah I'm drug free.

Feelsgood to be honest.

I used to smoke weed everyday. Since I quit my life got so much easier.
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>>35921772
>drugs are bad no matter what
Another way of saying I'm too close minded, stupid, or lazy to actually investigate what effect a particular drug might have.
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>>35922215
It also ruins your sober sex life. You will never have sex as amazing as that ever again without it.
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>>35927102
Please tell me more on how being sober is not better then smoking crack. Fill me with your festival wisdom from your great DMT fueled journey.
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>>35927119
when you get an infection are you gonna take antibiotics? i hope not because its a drug.
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>>35927131
Bro I don't take drugs. Weed is medicine bruh and not drug. Do you even toke?
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>>35927131
Penicilin is pretty much heroin. Please feed me more knowledge. Any other great wisdom you gathered while stuck in a Special K hole?
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>>35927142
you're trying really hard. you must be mad XD
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>>35927119
>being sober
>or being a crack user
You might be sober but you clearly don't understand how your little strawman argument doesn't prove anything
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>>35927119
>>35927102
Exactly this. Please tell me how being sober is not better than being high, tipsy or whatever else you fucking degenerates do. Fact of the matter is that Sober > not sober. In every fucking situation. Honestly I feel no sympathy for you losers who waste time doing drugs. Thank you so much for holding yourself back only so it is that much easier for me to be better than you in every way. Fuck off
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>>35922215
My dick doesn't work at ALL on mdma. Especially the day after with a molly crash. I've literally been in bed with countless girls and my dick refuses to work
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>>35927153
figure out the argument before responding.
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>>35921721
I'm drug-free not because I find drugs morally apprehensible but because I'm a bitch. The thought of losing my mental clarity just creeps me right the fuck out. I don't even like taking NyQuil.
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>>35927185
>what is hypochondriac
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>>35927176
>>35927161
>>35927155
Degenerates and you guys will never make it. Lack of discipline and the fear of reality. You guys are so addicted that you are trying to convince strangers to use drugs while at the same time trying to say that they are harmless. lol
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>>35927166
I guarantee you're either a virgin or some ugly ass fuck nigga

Post pic of yourself if you're better than us
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>>35927166
Hmmm let's see
>take drugs
>drugs increase serotonin output in my brain
>feel happier/energetic
>become more sociable
>be nicer to people, and kindness returned
>enjoy myself when I'm out with friends
Oh man I can't imagine how any of these things could be considered beneficial

I will admit stupid people should stay sober because they're already playing life on hard mode and drugs will simply confuse them more thsn they already are.
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>>35927211
So you're a failure who can't cope with life unless you're doped up.

Wew fucking lad.
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>>35927206
Haha bro, I am not going to get pissed enough at some internet argument to the point I would post pictures of myself to win an argument. I guarantee you that I am stronger, taller, better looking, and have a much brighter future than yourself. Continue trying to bring everyone down to your low-life level anon.
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>>35927197
>never make it
Like how Steve Jobs never made it? Or the countless other successful people who experimented with drugs?
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>>35927197
I get drugs are bad, fully acknowledge that. But so is sitting around posting on 4chan. We all have bad habits. And if you use drugs responsibly (safe dosage, appropriate precautions, DD/etc) you can end up having a great time socializing, etc. You moral fags sit on your high horse criticizing people smoking weed or drinking but at least they are out making friends, socializing, and enjoying their life. Everything in moderation. Seriously though quit 4chan this shit sucks your soul and will make you apathetic and unsociable af.
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>>35927197
you still haven't figured out the argument? here i'll help you out since your mentally retarded. your definition of drug is too loose. drug applies to pretty much anything you put inside your stomach. you're taking the word drug when really you only mean extremely specific classes of drugs.

If you get an infection you better not take antibiotics because its a drug. if you take them thats definitely a sign you're weak bro. don't wanna be weak do you?

lemme guess you're like 5'5", and workout every day?

tl;dr: you have little man syndrome
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>>35927206

You know, actually I apologize for being so mean to you guys, honestly. I don't even dislike you guys for doing drugs. I just don't want that shit in my system, of for people in my family to feel the need to take drugs. By all means do what makes you happy but do not force it on to me. We are both entitled to our opinions no matter how much we disagree with eachother.
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>>35927227
>counter argument consists of throwing insults
Its really quite remarkable how these "sober" people still don't understand the basic principles of logic and how to prove and disprove a point.
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I feel bad now. I'm being accused if short man syndrom, dudes are hating left and right. Worst of all I'm pretty sure I'm just another excuse now for people to get high. My sincerest wish for all you reading is to never feel the need to get high. To be accepted by a community that genuinely cares for you as a person and is compassionate to your beliefs.
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>>35927291
you should worry more about having downs syndrome than not taking anything classified as a drug (which includes protein)
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ITT: Faggots who think people care about their cleanliness.
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What do i do? I live in a country with the worst drinking culture possible(Australia), and its near impossible to meet and socialize with girls outside of clubs and parties where heavy drinking is involved
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>>35927102
Some of these drugs are so new and the consumption is not a mainstream thing. We can't possibly tell what the long-term consequences of doing a certain drug might be.
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>>35928115
Drink an entire bag of Sunnyvale Fruity Lexia goon.
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>>35929385
you don't know what you're talking about.
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