>>35597939 I'm a grad student in this field. We're starting to find evidence that gut bacteria can actually affect behavior. So that's why it might work. Scientist think there's a good chance it can help with things like anxiety and depression too.
The early results of these studies are pretty exciting from a scientific standpoint. In one trial they did a fecal transplant from an obese subject to a healthy fit person. After 3 months the fit person had statistically significant fat gain, primarily deposited around the midsection. I still think it comes down to cal in cal out, but the role gut bacteria plays in this is largely unknown and should be studied further.
>>35598083 But doesn't dry-freezing and putting it in a pill kind of fucks up all that? I heard a lot of actually removing poop from one person and sticking it inside someone else, but even then you had to do it very fast.
>>35598712 Strict cal in cal out only works for people who count calories.
99.95% of all people don't, so those who do don't show up in these studies. If it's true that gut bacteria can change your behavior (which is very likely), then it can affect the weight of anyone who doesn't closely monitor diet with a food scale.
This won't work unless fat people change their diet to go with it as well. We can give them probiotic bacteria as much as they want, but if they're still eating greasy, processed shit, nothing's gonna happen
>>35598650 No. That's not why people have different gut bacteria. "Bad" gut bacteria -> cravings, bad eating behavior, and poor metabolism -> fatass. It's not the other way around. That said, willpower still trumps gut bacteria. But a transfer of healthy gut bacteria to obese patients has lead to very quick weight loss results. Also, hanging around fat people could cause your gut bacteria population to more closely resemble theirs. So be careful.
>>35598919 That's yet to be evidenced.. The point is that bacteria affecting behavior is logical. Hormones, chemicals -- if shitters can find an excuse to switch up their personality on alcohol and other drugs, being affected by bacteria seems plausible. Furthermore, the product of things is often the average of those things. The bacteria could be acting like a neural system -- in a place that already is.
>/fit/ retarded as usual It's called a fecal transplant.(or rather, was called before they invented shit pills).
To explain it would really overload your little brains, but it kinda goes like this: >fat people eat too much >thin people don't >why do fat people eat so much? >let's find out! >seems there's a big correlation-going-into-causation with the gut flora thin and fat people have >let's test it! >give thin people fat people flora >give fat people thin people flora >if hypothesis is correct, thin people will get fat and fat people will get thin
And that's exactly what happened. They also checked for calories in/calories out, but no correlationw as found. As it turns out, it doesn't matter how much calories you eat, what matters is if you body shits all those calories out again or makes fat from them.
As it turned out "thin people gut flora" is really good at ignoring whatever you eat - you will shit everything out basically untouched. Meanwhile, fat people flora even makes sugar (4 kcal/g) out of iceberg lettuce.
>>35600723 Do you seriously not understand how logical propositions work? >P -> Q <=> ~Q ->~P >shitty gut -> fatass <=> non-fatass = fit -> non-shitty gut = healthy gut Being healthy does give you healthy intestinal flora you moron.
For prolonged shitty diets, the good bacteria are long dead and can't recover. So eating better won't help. However that's not the case with everyone. So to get better we can implant gut bacteria and the diet needs to remain good for those bacteria to do good
>>35600795 >As it turned out "thin people gut flora" is really good at ignoring whatever you eat - you will shit everything out basically untouched. >Meanwhile, fat people flora even makes sugar (4 kcal/g) out of iceberg lettuce.
>>35600795 Ive had my gut vacterial oblitered with antibiotics and chemo. Guess what? Im still thin as fuck. Had fat friend same thing happened, except he started eating right and exercising. Guess what? He's thin as fuck. He didnt become thin until he started eating right and exercising. Even chemo treatments and antibioyics touched it.
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