>>35586974 I allow myself one "cheat day" per week. On that day I do 300 cals worth of cardio, substitute breakfast with a shake, skip lunch and eat my entire TDEE for dinner.
Feels fucking great to be able to stuff my face with burgers during a cut. Usually I don't even manage to eat the whole 2k Cals so I end up on a deficit still. And even if I do, I'm not hungry till afternoon the next day, so I end up with the same deficit no matter what.
>>35587086 How so? I am fine with not consuming junk food. No cravings anymore either. Not for sugar, not for fatty foods. Not for anything really anymore. Though I still have taste, I still use seasoning, sauces like marinade on my food. I still eat healthy and fine. But I no longer crave premade storefood/junkfood. I havent eating anything sugary for over half a year now and I dont really miss it.
>>35587064 My experience is the opposite. My sense of taste and smell improved and I now actually like the taste of healthy unprocessed food, while I almost gag from the sweetness when I take a bite out of a store-bought cake or candy.
you have no show, you have no deadline, you have no tangible goals.
nigga you could die of cancer in a month, for all you know you have a melanoma on your back right now that you won't notice until its already metastasised and they'll tell you the only options are palliative.
life isn't keeping that close an eye on the score.
sure eat healthy, avoid overly processed food, but let yourself have a little fun on the weekends.
> in b4 hurr durr goals hurr durr muh fitness.
don't be the guy that needs to bring his own chicken breast with him to dinner.
>>35587150 Well shit, my taste for candy and sugary things has decreased though. I find the smell less alluring, the taste more bland. Though I have to admit, my taste for normal things has improved in some ways. Just not for the sugary things and I dont know if I would like the taste, because I havent eating sugary things for half a year. But I feel no reason to try them out. Nihilism on food, ha.
>>35587117 >But I no longer crave premade storefood/junkfood. I havent eating anything sugary for over half a year now and I dont really miss it. about five years ago i switched from regular peanut butter to natural, and now i cant stand the taste of regular PB anymore. it tastes like peanut icing, in all the worst ways.
>>35586974 Zero. The only exceptions to my diet are due to unavoidable external factors, like Christmas' dinner with parents and relatives and... well, that's pretty much it.
Furthermore, I enjoy my diet. I can't grasp the concept of "cheat day", but again I'm not a merkin so I will never understand the joy of >>35587062 >being able to stuff my face with burger I blame the lack of food education in that bizarre country.
>>35586974 just eat it knowing what you eat. like if you eat pizza, eat like a slice or two, not a whole pizza, then count how many calories you eat in that pizza and substract that amount off your daily calorie intake. Is not a loop hole tho, just do it when you dont want look like an autist in a party or something. also programing cheat days is stupid.
ITT: A bunch of weirdos fixating on fitness for fitness' sake like a bunch of obsessive autists.
If you're living a lifestyle where you can't even occasionally go out for a night with your comrades or teammates from an outdoors crew or sports team or SOMETHING and share drinks and greasy food and debauchery, your fitness literally has no purpose. Half the fun of doing cool, fit things is getting drunk with your mates and boasting about your deeds like assholes. It's just part of being a Man.
You can draw certain lines, sure, like deciding that sweets are objectively shit and a burger is better anyway. Or deciding that an entire day of pizza and instagram pics dedicated to "cheating" without even necessarily making a real event of it is pretty corny and gay. But if you think being 100% clean 100% of the time is the only way to go because "muh goals", you're an absolute loser and achieving your goal is only going to intensify your body dysmorphia anyway.
>>35586974 >>35587048 >HURR IM SO FAT THAT I CAN EAT 5 CHEAT DAYS A MONTH AND STILL LOSE WEIGHT! >HURR IM SO FAT THAT I SEE MY FOOD AS SOMETHING TO DERIVE PLEASURE FROM SO I MAKE SURE TO EAT LOTS OF SHITTY HIGHLY REFINED SUGARY FOODS A MONTH SO I CAN FEEL GOOD CAUSE IM A FAT DISGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT AND EATING HEALTHY IS TORTURE!!!
>>35587167 >health and fitness isn't it's own reward bro live a little and eat a candy bar! >you might have cancer bro (however unlikely since youre really taking care of yourself) so live a little and eat a candy bar! dumbest shit i ever read
>>35587006 It can be a way to improve progress, too. Unless your diet is 100% perfect (which is impossible) you're missing out on some micros in your daily grind. Eating something completely different once in a while allows your body to re-stack those. It's also in line with our genetics to cycle periods of limited food with feasts. That's why traditionally the year is divided into fast periods and holidays (which the Christians copied, but are much older).
But feel free to ignore nature, society and friends while sticking to your time table. Chances are you won't be able to keep your perfect diet for, say, 20 years, while mine takes my social life into account so there's no reason to ever stop it.
It's not projecting when they're openly admitting, self-righteously asserting, even, that their "goal body" is the sole object of their intent. They stylize themselves as Shaolin monks of fitness, just replacing the martial arts with lifting stats and bf% measures and replacing the meditation and enlightenment with shitposting and some equally-elusive notion of "making it" that supposedly happens when the aforementioned stats get good enough.
But unlike the monks, they are never happy, because their entire approach to living life is all about deferring being truly alive until the day they "make it" and then letting body dysmorphia and endlessly-shifting goalposts do the rest.
You're not gonna make it either. If being fit, pushing your fit body in sports and adventures, and having fun with the people you do it with isn't enough for you to feel like you or anybody else "made it", you're fucked for life. You might as well be in a cubicle 60 hours a week, putting off life until you feel like you have "enough" money. It's just a hamster wheel of insecurity and you will be cocooned until you're entombed.
Its kind of stupid to schedule a cheat day, I don't understand it at all. Why would you want to set yourself back on purpose? Some days you go out for drinks and get drunk food and go way over your caloric limits. This is fine because it doesn't happen regularly.
Also, cheating regularly reinforces the habit of cheating, just making it harder to stay on the diet.
>>35588227 Cheat days are something people do if they have no social life IMO. So they "schedule" days where they still sit alone in front of their computer, but eat more. And then they take pics of their meal (with the keyboard visible in the frame) and post them on /fit/, along with: >how's your cut going? or something similar, so they can feel like they're sharing their meal with someone.
>>35586974 Once a a week I have pasta the night before my most intense workout. Sometimes I eat dirty but never more than my daily calorie goal. After cutting for 5 months I have developed the hungry skeleton stomach where I get sick if I eat over 1000 calories in one sitting.
>>35588227 I find it helps with motivation, since I really enjoy things like pizza and beer and knowing I can partake in them once a week makes a diet a lot easier to be on. I've tried and failed numerous times to lose weight by cutting out junk food completely, only to lose focus and binge - which essentially destroys my motivation because I feel that I've failed.
By having a single day where I'm allowed to have junk food, I can easily eat steamed veggies, lean chicken, yogurt, allbran, etc every single day without growing tired of it. It's like I only need to be on a diet for 6 days, then have a single day where I can indulge, then get back at it the next day. Having a treat once a week isn't going to undo all my progress, unless I manage to eat 6500 calories all at once, which I simply can't do. I've managed to drop 40lbs by doing this, and am continuing at a steady rate of 1.5lbs a week.
Everyone is different, and one diet won't work for everyone. If you can enjoy having nothing but healthy food 24/7 with no room for a bit of chocolate here and there, then good for you. If you need to have a little reward here and there in order to keep you on track, then good for you.
For me and I imagine many other former fatties, cheat days were a futile attempt to hold on to the past of that shitty high carb/cal "feel good" diet you craved when the other half of you wanted to get/feel better and lose weight, and every cheat day you allowed yourself made you want to go back to that shitty "feel good" diet high in energy spiking simple carbs and lots of sugar until eventually you surrendered and had your cheat day everyday.
To build a new lifestyle, sometimes you just have to kill off the old one entirely.
>>35586974 Eat whatever you fuckin want m8 as long as you stay on track. If you need it for motivation purposes or some shit then just subtract some cals during the non cheat day and slap them onto your cheat day so you can pig out fatty.
depends on how you define a cheat meal. if I eat a steak instead of chicken breast I don't really see that as a cheat meal because it's still good food. The same with pasta or so, sure there are better carbs out there but is it really a cheat meal ?
I basically have 1 cheat meal a day but like I said above some people might not even see that as a cheat meal. I like having a home made burger for example, if you get higher quality beef, go easy on the sauce and cheese and don't add tons of fat and bacon it is reasonably healthy I would argue.
>>35586974 I cheat every damn day and im still shredded.
Dat carb cycle
Dat watching meals
Dat daily training
I eat cheats on top of my planned meals. not gonna lie my bf isnt super low but im not competing. I just look in the mirror and if i dont like were im at I cut for a short time until I lean then back to growing.
>>35587003 What a fucking buzz kill. Unless your literally competing in a bodybuilding competition in the next 2 months it literally doesn't matter to adhere to a diet this strictly. There are so many other joys in life to take in along with getting strong, developing your body and all that. The amount that a single bowl of fruit loops will effect you or a slice of cake, bowl of ice cream or w.e once in awhile is nothing.
>>35587985 Yup, unless you're making money off of it there is no point in eating perfectly all the time.
What is the goal of "making it" if not to enjoy your life and experiences with others? If I cant hang back with my friends, eat some pizza, go out and drink with girls and feel worried if I eat a burger, where would I derive my real pleasure in life from?
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