Do anti depressants, including SSRI's affect your gains? Do they effect test levels at all?
What about ADHD medications?
Most anti-depressant medications and anti-anxiety medications will cause weight gain. But drugs and people are unpredictable, and rarely the opposite occurs and a person's appetite will decrease while on anti-depressant meds. But 90% of the time weight gain, and probably 100% of the time when it comes to anti-anxiety meds.
For people that use adderall, appetite is usually supressed. Depending on the user and dosage, many adderal users lose weight. However, for some people, as the adderal wears off later in the day, the user's appetite rebounds and they end up pigging out and even eating more calories than the initial fast, thus causing weight gain.
No idea about test.
I take antidepressants and I can tell the difference between my workouts before the depression and after.
Before I would be in pain for days because I worked so hard but now the depression makes me take it a lot easier, free weights usually bring on obsessive thoughts so I use machines when im not feeling great.
Overall I dont think the antidepressants affect your gains I think it is more the depression.
When you start investigating mental illness such as depression it becomes a much more complicated concept than "anon here is lacking serotonin" in reality nobody really has a fucking idea of what schizophrenia is.
>Overall I dont think the antidepressants affect your gains I think it is more the depression.
This. Depression kills your motivation, stops you sleeping, makes you sleep too much,etc, etc. But some anti-depressants do cause weight gain yes.
Pharmacy Fag here. This is a good answer.
As for test, I have never read anything significant on it affecting nor lowering testosterone.
Keep on lifting bro's
Most common side effects of SSRIs are weight gain and sexual difficulties. The sexual difficulties either clear up in a few months, or linger after you stop taking them. Luckily there's an NDRI called Wellbutrin that causes weight loss and increases sexual performance, and you can easily take both. SNRIs cause less weight gain and sexual problems but are sometimes harder to withdraw from. None of them affect gains or testosterone as far as anyone can tell, except to the extent that you'll be hungrier or less hungry, which could be good or bad depending on if you're cutting or bulking. That said, if you're depressed, the extra motivation and focus you get from taking them far outweighs whatever the other chemical effects are.
Most things that show mental illnesses as chemical imbalance are the result of lazy marketers not fully understanding what they're selling. SSRIs should increase the amount of serotonin in the brain, yet people with untreated depression have more serotonin than the general population. Science hasn't gotten much further than a suspicion that depression is connected to serotonin somehow, and that schizophrenia is connected to dopamine somehow. The drugs do work, it's just that no one is really sure how.
That's not very comforting to hear. Especially knowing that they do not know a whole lot about it, which means any chance of being normal without meds anymore will be a ways off. I don't even know if they're are any studies to try and cure schizophrenia, if you even would be able to.
they did nothing for me
uh , wrong one
>telling somebody with adhd to stay of meds for motivation
Sucks, my mom had scizophrenia, she was able to function and be productive as well as most other people on meds. Most of the current research suggest that schizophrenia isn't caused by one disorder but many disorders. Like all mental disorders its difficult to research. Everyone is made differently and has their own unique reactions to things. Nature is far from perfect, so don't worry about not being perfect yourself
My mate has just started taking sertraline, how do I help him deal with this? I tried convincing him to join a gym, saying how having a goal to work towards and a regular routine will help him feel better, but he said 'I'll pass'. He pisses me the fuck off most the time, he just seems like he's his own worst enemy. He's a snob sometimes and maybe likes to he think he's really clever - so he won't do things that would challenge this view of himself, like do quizzes in front of other people and that stuff.
I even told him to maybe consider getting tested for low test, since I've read how most people with depression tend to have low testosterone, and he was like 'my testosterone levels are fine, I don't have manboobs and I can fuck just great'.
I know he has anxiety, and idk... he's one of those people who are just their own worst enemy.
Welbutrin has helped me a lot in all aspects. I basically went from a suicidal alcoholic to a successful college student with a 3.5 after having to withdrawl from my previous semester. It keeps me level headed and combined with strattera i get similar effects of adderall without the desire to play video games all day lol.
Sexually i dont last as long but other than that ive had no problems. Havent really done much sexually since i started taking it though because a month after i broke up with my crazy cunt gf and have been focusing on myself sonce.
I havent tried any other ssris other than depokote but it has helped tremendously with bipolar and kept my mood stable. Havent had any weight gain.
Forgetting to take either one has shitty side effects, welbutrin makes your entire body sore as fuck and depokote will make you shake like you have parkinsons.
On Depokote it is also REALLY important to take it around the same time at night. You can get really sick if you dont. And if you dont take it for multiple days youll end up getting poisoned.
Thanks for the feedback.
A psych persribed me paroxitien after a 20 minute visit that should have taken an hour, he was being shitty. I'm getting a second opinion but I want other people experiences too, I'm very concerned about side effects. I don't want to be a zombie and I also don't want to have a limp dick. I'm also doubting I need it, I'm not suicidal, I think I may have mild dysthmia but I want to make sure theres not something physiologically wrong with me.
I haven't tried staterra, I just got back on ritilan after not taking it for 10 years. I don't feel like it helps very much. How does strattera and adderal differ in the way you felt over all and how it affected your focus?
Is therapy helpful at all? I don't mean for schizophrenia, but for general depression or whatever? Or is it just the memes everyone says they are.
Yeah but I'm a semi-adult so I'd have to pay for it. I'm just wondering if cognitive therapy and behavioral patterns are an actual science that'll help more or will I just confide in someone for like $150/hour?
Strattera isnt a controlled substance. It allows me to focus on my assignments but at the same time im not a zombie and feel like i am myself. Its just not focused to the point where i lock myself in a room and jerk it for 3 hours. Strattera also doesnt give you dry mouth, a shriveled dick from recirculation, or make you take a power shit within 30 minutes of taking it. (Only benefit of adderall) I took adderall for 15 years and all the other stimulants under the sun so i know my stuff haha.
Welbutrin has some add and anxiety benefits but in no way will put you in zombie mode even combined with something like strattera.
I honestly dont have any real side effects from any of my medication, the problem i feel a lot of people have with the stimulants like adderall and ritalin is they can focus, but they focus on the wrong things. I used to be able to play league for 20 hours straight and wouldnt sleep at all. Id sit and eat nothing and want to drink beer all day too.
This is all combined with seeing a councilor every 2-3 weeks and it all really has helped me overall.
Depression starts in the head.. kinda like thoughts that have gotten tied up together. Outside activities, cute animals sunlight exersize anything that majes you happy helps. But those are only treating the symptoms not the problem, only you can change your thoughts!
t: depressed but coping
I don't consider anything in psychology to be actual science. It's all social science, pseudo science, corrupt studies and corrupt people who want to make money off your suffering. I mean, think about it, it's an industry where no one would have a job if people weren't mentally unstable and miserable. They directly profit off their patient's unhappiness.
CBT has some okay concepts IMO but it only works well if you're depressed or anxious for a logical reason. If you can identify the event that caused you to feel distressed, then analyze the emotion, the idea is that you can consciously interpret the event in a different way and feel a different emotion. If you just *are* depressed or anxious and it has no "trigger event", CBT does fuck-all. It's all about analyzing your behavior, memories, and how you feel. It doesn't account for people just sometimes feeling shit for no "logical" reason.
DBT is retarded. Literally designed to play mindgames with stupid BPD-diagnosed females. It centers around endless irrelevant acronyms that you're supposed to use as a checklist of the sorts in certain situations. The main idea is that when you're distressed, you just stop paying attention to it, pretend it isn't a problem, tell yourself it isn't a problem, then focus on one object and block all other thoughts out. If you have half a brain and like to solve your problems, DBT fucking sucks.
Therapy is just talking to the therapist for a lot of money tbqh. I promise you they won't have anything constructive or helpful to say. Meds are shill imo too. The mental health care industry can't help you.
>I mean, think about it, it's an industry where no one would have a job if people weren't mentally unstable and miserable
>it's an industry where no one would have a job if people weren't physically sick and injured.
I'm not trying to argue that psychology is good, stuffing people with drugs but what you say is bullshit. We do not live in a perfect world.
I had an psychotic episode triggered by excessive weed consumption. Never went to hallucinations though, but had intense paranoia and a really strong mind fog.
I had taken LSD some days before aswell, which might have affected.
Talked to my doctor, he saw that i wasn't fully psychotic, but that weed usually pumps out dopamine, and smoking the right amount of quantities. He said to basically wait it out, and gave me Zyprexa if it was too much to handle.
Never took the antipsyches in reading what they do to people, and luckily it went away.
Basically; OP. Meds are shit. Let food be thy medicine. If you're not having any psychotic illness, pills are literally going to kill your human spirit and make your psyche rekt.
>pic related, bitch that takes SSRI and has a bf. "accidently" sent this pic to me yday.
This guy is out to take your money. Trust a psychologist, not meds. CBT has proven to be extremly succesfull in handling neuroses, whereas taking meds for handling neuroses will prolly just fuck you up more.
Also, developing on this.
Why would you trust pharms? They are literally the cancer of the earth, nutritionists fucking recommend drinking milk.
Milk, as we all know, is HITLER and AIDS combined when it comes to overall health. Drains your bone health, lowers your calcium in the body and just fucks you up. Mate, don't trust industry-funded educations.
So I ate pot brownies for the first time (in fact first time trying weed altogether) like 2 days ago and I got so fucking high I felt like my mind shattered. I still feel kinda numb and disconnected, is this normal? If so, when will it go away?
If you feel you need both an antidepressant and an adhd medication, try wellbutrin xl. I'm on it to fix mental fog and fatigue brought on by an illness and it has been a lifesaver. I focus and feel so much better now, and it's one of the few antidepressants that won't make you crave food and junk all day.