>>35511474 >implying Spartans weren't the original /fit/ Spend all day working out. Spend all day mirin. Spend all day worshiping the Greek God of fitness. Spend all day being forever along because working out to much. Spend all day with a bunch of sweaty muscular men. Spend all night getting that god tier semen protein.
>>35511389 Úlfhéðnar are sometimes described as Odin's special warriors: "[Odin's] men went without their mailcoats and were mad as hounds or wolves, bit their shields...they slew men, but neither fire nor iron had effect upon them. This is called 'going berserk'."
>>35511621 >Also forgetting that time the Spartan's and Persian's fucked up Athens during the Peloponnesian War. Leading to Alexander the Great rising to power and being the won who wrecked the Persian Empire.
The armor he sent back to greece specifically said "without sparta" on it.
>>35511642 Yep sounds like something that you would hear about in a /fit/ greentext story.
>be me sitting at home with my bros lifting and mirin each others gainz >suddenly this autistic manlet shows up we'll call him Alexander >H-hey Sparta w-wanna join my conquest of Persia >we all laugh at him and tell him to get the fuck out you skeleton >next thing we know he's conquered all of Persia >now we're the laughing stock of all of Greece hold me ancient/fit/ >wojack.carving on wall
If we're talking norsemen/spartans/knights/samurai whatever, it all comes down to what kind of diet they'd have because they all trained pretty rigourously.
Don't know what Spartans ate. Vikings ate a lot of fish. Enough so that they were a few centimeters taller than your average european at the time (based on archeological evidence). I think Japanese ate a lot of fish too but on the other hand, they often only ate a lot of plain rice with nothing else to it. Not exactly something you'd get buff on.
Look at him and laugh, lads. Vikings weren't great fighters. They were cowards who raided and then ran. They were more mobile and that's why they were ever successfull, and it was usually against untrained villagers in coastal cities.
But for real just because you watched that Viking show doesn't mean Vikings actually looked liked that, Scandinavian people are primarily endomorphs and have a lot of muscle and fat, (I and all of my family are Norwegian).
Spartans literally obsessed over war, they bred for it all there lives, and they were not fed too much, but not too little either, they had to learn to steal to get fed to make them stronger. Spartans are the OGs
The Jews Their routine was pretty based >trumpet blowing until city falls >1 x arc building >pyramid building 1xf >armed rebellion 1xf >1x10 rock chiseling >long distance running back to Israel And once back in the holy land, eventually: >1x "massada suicide drill" >1x nail your savour to a cross And even later: >6milion x Sauna
>>35511744 i have heard from somewhere that there are recorded feats of rowing those dudes accomplished that even olympic teams can't match today. Anyone else heard that?
>>35511741 I would say that yeah, some primitive groups are fucking unbelievably fit. They might not look like it because their skin weathers really badly and they end up looking baggy and untoned, but these motherfucks do endurance hunting. If that's not the most hardcore shit you've ever heard of, I want to know what deathworld you're from.
>>35512917 >I would say that yeah, some primitive groups are fucking unbelievably fit. They might not look like it because their skin weathers really badly and they end up looking baggy and untoned, but these motherfucks do endurance hunting. If that's not the most hardcore shit you've ever heard of, I want to know what deathworld you're from.
And the funny thing is that Spartans were probably weak by fit's standards When are you cucks going to admit that ottermode that combines strength and endurance, and can sustain the same average-biggish strength output for several hours straight, is the best mode?
>>35513135 >it's not that hard to invent. It is a very unpractical form of hunting in most areas of the world and in recorded history it has only been practiced where other forms of hunting, because of the environment or because of lack of access to technology, have been difficult or impossible to practice.
The most efficient human survival skill is adaption, and people adapt to their environment in ways to make their lives more efficient. Persistence hunting is not practical unless the hunters have no other choice because it takes a lot more work than any other hunting form.
>>35513204 Those are some great assertions. Really unfortunate about the lack of a single shred of evidence.
We are fucking bipeds with a sweat system, gait, endurance-focused musculature, and the wits to plan ahead, carry water with us, and work in groups. How you could possibly imagine we DIDN'T evolve to overcome the stresses of endurance/persistence hunting is beyond me.
I never said it was all primitives did, anyway. That's you, just trying to make my point look silly. The point is that many primitives were undoubtedly capable of doing it if more efficient methods of hunting failed them. It's our default, worst-case scenario solution.
Though it may take a lot of work, the one good benefit of persistence hunting is that you need almost nothing other than your own fitness to do it. You just fucking go out there and run down an antelope, then kill it with a rock. If you had to drop your spear because some other animal surprised you, and you were separated from your group, you could always, no matter what, run down your prey.
>>35513327 >Though it may take a lot of work, the one good benefit of persistence hunting is that you need almost nothing other than your own fitness to do it. You just fucking go out there and run down an antelope, then kill it with a rock. If you had to drop your spear because some other animal surprised you, and you were separated from your group, you could always, no matter what, run down your prey. You drop a link about persistence hunting and haven't even read it yourself. You don't know what persistence hunting is, do you desu
>>35513430 Persistence hunting - the practice of hunting wherein a predator chases a prey animal long enough that the prey animal becomes exhausted or otherwise unable to continue fleeing, at which point the predator can kill it at their leisure.
There, I even reformulated it in my own words. Eat a million dicks with that grin.
>>35513466 I'll give you another chance desu. Name a single case where the hunt has been performed by an individual and not by a group dividing the labour between each other as to prevent each other exhausting before the animal.
Here's one of the better examples from "Persistence Hunting by Modern Hunter-Gatherers" by Louis Liebenberg:
"The shortest hunt I witnessed lasted less than two hours (the exact time is not known, since I had to catch up with the hunter) (table 1). In this hunt !Nate ran the entire way, although he sometimes slowed down when he lost the spoor."
>>35513780 The concept of interpretation and presentation in anthropology if completely new to you, isn't it desu. Liebenbergs little storymode doesn't present anything other than his oversimplified presentation of the reality. He never went out with a single individual and no single individuals in the groups did all the job.
>>35513848 oh holy shit, I know this is baiting but I guess it's also my kryptonite.
it says right there he witnessed the fucking hunt, and witnessed one man run the whole way.
and, even if it were not true, what difference does it make whether a group does it or a single person does it? It's still persistence hunting, and you still have to be in ridiculously good shape to do it with any kind of reasonable success, and it is still the best explanation we have for the evolution of human physiology.
You have all the hallmarks of a student educated only in the liberal arts with no science training. leave it to a fucking postmodernist to give out all the critique, with none of the opposing theory to present a better alternative.
>>35511389 >Culture based around Spartans being descendants of Hercules >Babies left to die if they have shit genetics >Boys taken at age 7 >Trained to become death >Spend entire life fighting, training, and getting semen injections >Ignore grills because they're distracting Spartans for sure
Wow I cannot tell if you are retarded or this is just bate.
The greatest powers of the time were defeated by the Mongols:
Jin China Tangut China Kwaresmian empire (annihilated completely) The far less advanced (at the time) Europeans (Russians, Georgians)
They never built anything and they set humanity back by destroying these advanced civilisations, but the question was who is the most fit. The average Mongol warrior would have the skill and fitness of a professional athlete of today.
Not just riding a horse but regularly hunting and fighting on one, being able to shoot birds out of the sky with a bow and arrow by firing as the horse's hooves are all off the ground. Firing the equivalent of a longbow repeatedly while sitting with no stable base, being able to turn in the saddle and fire backwards, lassooing fuck out of roman soldiers who have proper weapons and armour. Pretty /fit/ and alpha
>>35514724 I'm not wrong because I have not presented a standing. All I have done is provided arguments against your standing. You have yet to present an argument that is valid, so you're just being ridiculous.
If you please, go back to your statement from >>35513918
<and it is still the best explanation we have for the evolution of human physiology.
This is the argument you failed to defend. Care to try?
saracens, persians, and mamluks were pretty fit, they often had medium to light armors but there were many warriors who had heavy ass fucking scale pieces and overall they had a pretty hearty diet and used axes and javelins
>>35513630 How would you divide it? Its not a fucking straight-line race where you can station dudes out beforehand. What if the prey takes a left-turn? And you cant have the other dudes running with you because you know what? They'll be as exhausted as you. You fucking retard
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