>the year of our queen, 2016
>Still eating this nutritionless calorie dense piece of shit
Explain yourself /fit/
>mfw my gf made a bunch of scrambled eggs for us to share
>mfw my gf insisted that I eat them with a tortilla.
Girls are definitely gains goblins.
In the end, I was gonna feed the tortilla to my dog, but i didn't wanna be a gains goblins to him so I just threw it away.
Just don't, there aren't alternatives.
If you're gonna eat a sandwich, eat the ingredients as a salad esque meal with a fork.
Or I suppose you can buy protein bread, but it tastes like shit and spoils fast.
desire to help people for the hell of it say what you want about lord scoob agree and disagree with him but hes a good guy at heart and one of the few gay people who behaves normal rather than pic related ALL THE TIME
>trying to lose fat
>see this thread
>look over at the tuna on bread I was going to have
>give the bread to the dogs
Any advice on getting enough calories in a day while trying to lose fat? Yes I read the sticky just wanted to hear your opinion.
If you're trying to cut, don't worry about getting enough, worry about getting too much.
Having a 750 defecit one day isn't going to kill your 500 defecit goal. Hell, it'll make it better. The human body can run on less than you imagine
>still eating grains
>b-b-but m-muh WHOLE GRAINZ!
>Mfw got a book on baking bread for Christmas
I'm so torn between that which I love and that which I also love
Picked this up from the store today.
Ingredients: whole kernel rye, water, whole meal rye flour, oat kernels, barley kernels, flax seed, salt, oat fiber, sesame, yeast.
It's not fluffy like a wheat bread, just flat and moist and probably tastes great toasted with some avocado on it.
Bread is cake. It might not have as much richness, be chocolate flavoured or be coated in coloured sugar but if you look at the ingredients you can see it's just a shitty excuse for a cake. Obviously some are a lot better than others but at the end of the day it's all cake and once that knowledge clicks you'll wonder how the fuck the rest of society convinces itself that having their daily bread is a good thing.
Look at this sub-human, not being able to handle gluten.
Look at him and laugh. He's below niggers with lactose intolerance.
Cake ingredients: white flour, eggs, sugar, butter, milk, vanilla extract. baking soda
Bread ingredients: whole grain flour, yeast, salt
The only similarity is that both include grain, but even the quality of the grain is different. You might as well be saying carrots are essentially cake because "it may not have as much richness or be coated in colored sugar but if you look at the ingredients it's just a shitty excuse for carrot cake"
>Want to cut
>Bit of a poorfag
>Everything requires cooking or too much prep
>Wholemeal bread is there and ready.
Fuck, man. I really want to drop this shit and pasta too, but it's so difficult. I gym 3 times a week and while I can't lift much and have the strength of a wet noodle, I WILL do all my squats, my deadlifts, bench presses, planks and all that. I don't care, I will do them and after that I hit the treadmill for 30-45 mins cardio so I should be burning it off right? Not like I don't cook and eat well neither but my pudge just won't budge.
Sounds like you have carbphobia. You need some whole grains in your diet some way and wholegrain bread and pasta are a really easy way to get them in your diet. The carbs aren't going to turn into fat and store permanently in your ass.
Maybe, man. I was a fatfuck and I tried keto for 3 months and shed so much. I'm "lean" now but I want the arm flab to go away, I don't want my thighs to jiggle. I want my fucking abs and I've been working hard for them.
I do eat that stuff, I just worry I dunno, maybe I'm intolerant of them? That as soon as I touch bread it DOES turn to fat? Or perhaps the bread that's available here is shit-tier?
I have rolled oats frequently, but they require preparation as you're not gonna scarf down tasteless cardboard flakes are ya?
You'd be a medical marvel if whenever you ate bread it all just turned to unsheddable fat, regardless of caloric intake. Just eat it, bro. It's hardly different from oats anyway.
Also, you ever try overnight oats? Just bowl up some oats, milk em, mix in some raisins, and leave it in the fridge overnight. By the morning they're ready to eat.
>eating too much dairy destroys my gut
you're right anon
Also how much bread is "too much" then?
The way I have it is generally 2 sandwiches, spread with butter, a slice of ham and cheese, some raw onion and a dash of hot sauce. I put them both in a closed toaster and the butter fries the whole thing from the inside out. It's fucking delicious.
I have this twice a day tops. Today I had it twice but fuck I'm feeling hungry and it's still 25 past midnight and I can't sleep till 4 usually. CAN'T WAKE UP
Yeah, it's real good. The oats soften up from being soaked, and the raisins infuse the bowl with sweetness. I prefer them that way, and there's also the perk of not having to clean a pot.
>Also how much bread is "too much" then?
Depends on what macros you're going for. Some days I bake and eat an 800 calorie loaf by itself just to get some extra calories and fiber in.
>The way I have it is generally 2 sandwiches, spread with butter, a slice of ham and cheese, some raw onion and a dash of hot sauce
Bruh I'd be more concerned about the ham, butter, and cheese than some slices of whole grain bread.
What's wrong with Ezekiel bread, friend? :)
I love my recipe.
>mfw Scooby going on about putting "chemicals" back in the bread
Fair enough then, I'll give it a shot what the hey.
Why? I use good butter, the ham is thin and I don't have it other than those and the cheese is just some fat and protein right? Just basicass sliced cheddar.
I saw the OP scooby video and I dunno what the fuck to make of my local "wholemeal" bread honestly. It's like in the middle between good and bad I think.
Wheat Flour, water, wheat bran, wheat groats, wheat semolina bran, wheat gluten, sugar, sunflower oil, salt, yeast, wheat malt flour, (and this is where the icky chemicals come in) preservative (E282), flour treatment agent (E300), emulsifiers (E471, E472e, E481), acidity regulators (E170, E341).
I wish I had a fucking bakery about. This factory-made bread designed to keep for a week or so is the only thing I can get around here.
>I use good butter
>cheese is just some fat and protein right?
Anyway, your bread doesn't sound whole grain, it sounds like white flour as the base with wheat bran and whole wheat kernels mixed in. Normally whole grain bread lists "whole wheat flour" explicitly, not just wheat flour. Could be wrong though.
Check the fiber ratio
Eh, I use Kerrygold. Organic, grass-fed butter. It's what I used for keto and it treated me well so I figured eh, fuck it.. So butter's out of the question? Can I use Laughing cow cheeselets? Fucking love those.
And I'm wrong about the cheese? Sorry man I'm not trying to be difficult or annoying. I appreciate your help and patience. Lemme check that link..
Yeah, no. My bread is 37g of carbs and 5g fiber per 100g. Fuck sake.. My best choice is to simply ditch bread altogether I think. This is considered the healthiest we can get around her probably.
I just checked my usual "integral barilla wholewheat pasta". It's whole durum semolina with a ratio of 1:10.
I know, I believe you. I just cleaned up a lot of things in my life, cut down, work hard but the final leg just seems to elude me. No matter how far I think I should get, it's like I'm stuck at this bodyfat%, Gotta be the diet, right? Or the sleep? The water? Both of those aren't as good as I want them to, admittedly.
>Eh, I use Kerrygold. Organic, grass-fed butter. It's what I used for keto and it treated me well so I figured eh, fuck it.. So butter's out of the question? Can I use Laughing cow cheeselets? Fucking love those.
The problem is the things that are bad about butter and cheese are in all butter and nearly all cheese. It's not a healthy kind of fat to eat.
You may want to skip the bread then if you can't get good bread in your area. Check the frozen section and see if you can find Ezekiel bread in your store, otherwise make those overnight oats.
I doubt I'll find this magicjewbread as I'm in southern europe, but I'll have a gander at the big out of the way supermarket next time I'm about. Not sustainable to go there just for bread but I hear you about the butter and cheese. Fuck, I barely have them in comparison to everything else I eat. Would they really fuck me over that hard? I want to clean up my act enough to regain progress but I don't wanna hate myself.
>live in southern europe
>can't find thick, solid, no-bullshit whole grain bread
W-What's the disbelief? We have bakeries but unless its some out of the way specialty store that I currently don't know about, everybody just makes bread by importing giant bags of processed flours from factories and bakes those. Malta's tiny, man. We don't even have room for growing wheat to the scale for making bread and selling it, too busy using it for potatoes..
Believe you me, I'd love to find this shit. After this thread I'm fucking paranoid now. At least I have milk.
Right? I fucking have milk, yeah?
>At least I have milk.
>Right? I fucking have milk, yeah?
Sure, buddy. Have your milk....
So I can't have milk, cheese, ham or butter and I can't find good-quality bread and pasta. And I probs need to up my cardio and do it more frequently.
I want my abs, man. Help.
Alright, fuck it. I'm going to enjoy the stuff I have on hand and then I ain't buying any more. I'm going to replace my love for toast with a love of fruit. Thankfully we get big juicy strawberries here even in winter. Apples, oranges, bananas, kiwis.. That good? Or am I going to get told off about fruit sugar?
Fruits are cool. You a fan of sweet potatoes? Not too much prep with those, just slice them in half and roast them until they're soft on the inside and leaking syrup. I'm making a tray of them right now.
I figured you're just yanking my chain hard and I'm jokingly exaggerating, but you're right still. If it's unhealthy, ideally you curb that craving or cut it out completely. s'why I'm gonna try to steer it towards fruit. Just sucks being a poorfag, can't afford to just scarf down chicken titties every day even if I wanted to.
I don't count macros or calories though, but I got a good idea of what everything is from doing it plenty in the past. Still, guess it won't hurt to refresh my numbers. Fuck jumprope though, I ain't got the coordination for that, jogging's more my thing, swimming in the summer.
I actually never tried them. My local grocery always had them but I never made the jump to try them, I think they were more on the expensive side so couldn't justify the whimsy but I'll give 'em a look! Thanks a lot man.
Well I do love me some eggplant and zucchini. Why can't lettuce n shit be more like them? They're fucking boring veg (I know calling a vegetable boring is wtf but bear with me).
Are spices in small containers you find on the rack good? Got a convection cooker to slap these bitches in.
well normally I just mix all the veg together (yams/eggplant/zucchini/red onion/parsnips) with some olive oil, put on some salt and pepper, as well as chilli flakes and sometimes rosemary and thyme. So yeah I'd say adding spices like that are good.
Not sure what a convection cooker is but I normally just roast em for about half an hour at 450 F
It's this thing. Like a hot-air grill. Makes fat just drip the fuck off in rivers I tell ya. Don't put dry meat in it thought or it turns into boot leather.
So you eat the veg raw or you roast it too after you mix it? Or roast the sweet potatoes and then mix them in?
>So you eat the veg raw or you roast it too after you mix it?
sorry, what I meant was that I mix it all up together to make sure the oil and seasoning coats everything evenly, then I spread that mix of veg over a baking tray and roast everything together. Shit's good. And really cheap. Good for cutting because eating so much veg in one go fills you up for very few calories. Also the fibre means god tier shits
That's a fucking nice idea bruh, I'll try it tomorrow in fact! How do you feel about basmati rice? I sometimes have a nice helping in a stew (just it simmered with veg and spices in stock) or with some chicken. Maybe it's more of a bulking food?
>eating anything that isn't meat, veg, fruit or powder
What's your favorite kind of bread, /fit/?
I personally prefer sourdough.
>bulk anyway on Irish-tier food
>friends work at Starbucks
>give me a bag of banana bread and pumpkin bread that expires that day
>eat nothing but processed bread desserts for half a week
>skip two rest days, break all my PRs
Check your cutting privilege, shitelairds.
Why not make your own delicious oat bread?
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You can try reducing the flour input and substitute it with protein powder if you dare, but I'd just leave the recipe alone