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Cheating fraud general

Last one
>>35489325

>now with 79% more bait edition
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Yall nighas unfuck me
What are the benefits to blasting/cruising rather than PCT?
Does blasting/cruising completely rekt your body's natural hormone production capabilities?
Also for those of you who have actually gone on the JOOSE, does it really make you think clearer?
Complimentary hi-test
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Finished my first cycle. Tren + test for 3 months. Things I learned.
>Tren is insane. Shortened my fuse. Made me a sex maniac. Crazy dreams. Extreme sweating.
>estrogen is so important. A smidge too high or low may break your dick and/or make you miserable and/or bloat you like a corpse.
>accutane is essential. The acne will come. Doesn't matter how good your diet is, your water intake, your hygiene.

I really can't stress how important I've learned estrogen is. I was popping 100mg viagras and my boner wouldn't budge at all.

To all you anons considering this shit, be warned. It's no joke, especially with elevated bf%
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>tfw dnp farts

holy mother of fuck it smells like rotting assholes and hot, salty garbage

also fuck you insomnia
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>>35494042
No one has been permanently shut down from AAS. As far as I know. HCG + clomid + nolva should reboot anyone's natty test if given sufficient time.
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>>35494055
Dick. Not boner.*
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>>35493913
>>35493952
W-well roidbros?
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>>35494055
I'm about to start my first tren cycle but I'm not sure how to dose it yet i was going to do something like

Test E 250mg every 3 days
Test P 100mg EoD for about 2 weeks for the kicker
Tren A 75mg Everyday? for about 6 weeks

Are the doses good?

Also which tren is better enth or ace?
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holy fuck

>just pinned my left glute without a mirror for the first time
>blood, blood fucking everywhere

first time I've ever had blood flow after pulling out
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>>35494275

hit an artery dude.

Whenever injecting into muscle tissue take this precaution:

1) Disinfect area
2)Stab needle into area
3)PULL BACK SLIGHTly ON Syringe to see if there is blood return. If you see blood in the syringe--> artery. If no blood than you're golden
4)now push the fluid in syringe inside
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>>35494093
Cam if you can, what was fight about?
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>>35494055
>running tren first cycle

It's like you wanted to kill everyone you love
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>>35494158
Just front load a shit ton of test enth rather than having to buy a vial of test a and only using 1/2.

Doses seem fine.

Most people would say Ace is better because it keeps your levels way more stable, and the enth side effects hit like a fucking truck after each pin. I've personally never taken tren
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>>35494303
>Not injecting intravenously

The fuck? Do you even want to make gains?
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Home testing kit for hormone levels. Does it exist?
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>>35494009
>steroids
Enjoy your OSTEOPOROSIS, LOL
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so I was feeling around my nipple today and I think i might have some gyno

when I pull my arm straight up in the air you can't see a lump, but when you feel around theres this small gooey feeling ball that moves around

when I flex with my arm down, it turns more into a line instead of a ball.


I don't fuckin know if it's been there since puberty or if it developed since I've been on TRT, because I didn't have any symptoms recently to alert me to this shit. About 8 months ago I got slightly sensitive nipples (but it was chilly outside) and only sensitive as in they got hard really easy and not much else. I took nolva for a few days and it went away. That was it..

am I fuked?
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>>35494416
>Cam if you can, what was fight about?

Something literally retarded. Dad kept complaining about some shit so I just ignored it kind of because getting on nerves eventually he started asking me something, I answered saying something "was bullshit" lightly and he thought I was talking about what he said and started yelling like a retard. And it just escalated from there.

Fuck that bitch ass nigga

But about the G4P thing I've heard that some gays are so desperate they'll pay you like $70 to suck your dick, I'd be pretty interested in that desu. Seems like easy money
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>>35494073
What about just nolva? i'm 19, do I need to take HCG and clomid as a PCT for just 6-8 weeks of 1cc supertest + 1cc deca(first 3 weeks) then the remaining weeks of just 1cc testprop + 1cc deca
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>>35494506
Your (You)
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>>35494480
iirc should be some that allow you to collect your own blood sample. But you would still have to send that sample into the lab, so might as well have a professional prick you
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>>35494592
What strength where they?
X ml of Y chemicals means nothing without the concentration
Also think about PCT as the more you do the more likely you end up back at your natty levels
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>>35494668
Thanks for the response.

I don't have it on me rn but i recall it being like 150mg eth, 100 prop, and 150 test A.

I don't have access to HCGand clomid so I was just hoping that just Nolva would do the trick
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>>35494461
>enth sides hit like a truck
Nope
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>>35494565
I got offered $60 about 8 years ago for a guy to suck my dick.

I couldn't do it. I'm just very very not gay I guess.

>I say this as I have dozens of pictures of half naked dudes for "inspiration"
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>>35494770
I feel as though I might chicken out when I get there.

Just feels weird senpai.

Not even gonna lie senpai, I look at men's physiques and even nice cocks and boipussies and say "Wow nice", sometimes even masturbate to videos on ashemaletube but after a while I just feel disgusted and realize that is a man, even one with fake boobs and nice boipussy that's still a man's anus and it sounds like a man and has a weird penis.
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>>35494707
You should be fine on
40 mg ed for 2 weeks
Followed by 20 mg for 2 weeks
You can extend the last 2 weeks for longer if your sex drive isn't what it was before cycle (if you can remember what it was like
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>Tfw doing cardio after an allnighter

Who knows this feel here?
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Following the /fraud/ pastebin

This can't be right, how the fuck do you do 500+ grams of carbs and only 195g of protein?

Even mass gainer shakes loaded with carbs are about 50/50

>inb4 potato potato potato
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Just tore up the old V-card.
Still kinda in shock.
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>>35495198
Good for you duder
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>>35495180
White rice, sweet potatoes, soaked beans, and fruit in between meals. Ditch the pre-made mass gainer shakes...
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>>35495221
lol
Literally have to eat a kilo of sweet potato to get 14 grams of protein
No wonder vegans look like shit even on gear
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>>35494158
What kind of estrogen blockers etc do I take with this cycle and when
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>>35495198
[Doubt]
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>>35495303
you probably won't need any considering Tren doesn't aromatise
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>>35495350
Won't i need some for the test? I dont want to get gyno
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You shouldn't use tren first cycle but if you do I suggest starting with 75mgs EoD or 50mgs ED tops.
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>>35495354
500mg per week isn't really gunk territory. It's borderline for estro sides.

If you really want take 12.5 of aromasin ED
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god damn it ,you would think finding a new source in jersey would be easy. nothing but false hope and what im assuming is bunk var in my neck of the woods. so much suffering, i envy you blokes.
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>>35495198
Sweet!
I hope he was gentle
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I'm planning on doing IM injections soon, anybody have any idea on which needle lengths are best for which muscle sites?

The needles I have are

>3/4 inch
>1 inch
>1 1/2 inches

The areas I'd want to inject are.

>deltoids
>buttocks
>hamstrings
>back

I'm imagining 3/4 inches for all of them except the glutes where I'd use the biggest one.

I'm 6"2, 81kilograms, 13%bf to give an idea.
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Fuck everything. Tren has me fuming over the littlest goddamn shit. I hate how easily I flip.
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>>35495416
>TFW the one trustworthy online source in your country has gone silent
You all have it easy it less than a 50/50 chance anything gets through the border. I know another guy who has gear but he went to jail for possession so i dont think just walking up and asking him would work
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>>35495628
1 -1.5 inch is the best
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>>35495245
You don't eat potatoes for the protien though
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Assuming I cant be asses to replace needles between drawing and pinning, whats a good gauge needle to use for both? 23g?
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>>35495711
I would go for 25g
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>>35495711
Yep that should be fine for both
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>>35495715
>>35495717

Thanks guys, Ill just buy both the first week and see which works best
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I'm assuming I can but can I draw 2 oils into one syringe then inject it?

If I'm not being clear what I'm saying is I draw 1ml of Test then draw 1ml of tren into the same syringe then inject it
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>>35495781
Sure can
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>>35495781
Yeah people do it all the time. Just be careful to not let the oil spill out from the syringe into a vial of a different compound, this has happened to me before because for some reason the vials had pressure in them. Not that it would affect anything though.
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>>35495671
Even for a shoulder?
Looks pretty deep.

Any way of knowing if you've gone too far?
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>tfw constant diarrhoea
>tfw shitting out my gains
>down from 95kg to 93

Fuck you
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>>35495837

stop eating gluten fatty
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>>35495829
Pain. Push slowly your nerves will tell you when you are about to go too deep
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>>35495781
Its safe as to do it. Just do the same process as with one oil but with oil already in the syringe.

Try not to stare at the swirling oils mixing for too long
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>>35495855
>stop eating gluten

Do not fucking do this. This whole bullshit trend about gluten free diets being healthy is bullshit. You can actually develop gluten intolerance by eating gluten free
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>>35495867
Alright, cool.

For an IM injection is it normal for a drop of blood to come out after removing the needle?

I know you pull out and try again if when you put the needle in, blood enters the syringe.
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>>35495855
There are so many causes of diarrhoea and I'm 85% sure that isnt the cause of his
>>35495837
Are you ill? Have you changed something in your diet recently?
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>>35495887
Gluten is 100% crap.

Low in nutrients, inhibits mineral absorption, fucks with your gut health, causes inflammation and insulin resistance. Proven time and time again.

The vegans I see who avoid grains always look better.
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>>35496022
Gluten is an important part of your diet. It's not great in the sense that overloading it will make you a healthier person. But not eating gluten is completely fucking stupid

>My gf is celiac and thinks non-celiacs who don't eat gluten are fucking dumb for the reason it's fucking unhealthy not to
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>>35496022
>gluten free = $$$$$$$

Are you like the .04% afflicted with celiac ?
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>>35496059
Why is it an important part of a diet
So because your gf thinks gluten is great means it's great.

>>35496059
Potatoes, fruit, white rice, beans/legumes are cheap.

We're finding out more and more that gluten causes problems. It went from 1/3000 to 1/33.

Grains are so nutrient void that it's retarded. The foods I listed have way more of the nutrients your body needs.
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>>35496118
Because if you exclude gluten from your diet you're cutting out huge food groups from your own diet, and giving yourself gluten intolerance so you can never eat those foods again.

Grains are fucking important for health.
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>>35496125
>Grains are fucking important for health
Elaborate
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>>35496118
You are so stupid.
>Causes insulin insensitivity
Literally any carb source will do this.
>causes inflammation
You'd have to have so much to actually cause this to be a concern. You'd get bloated from the amount of food long before you'd get any serious inflammation
>low in nutrients
It's actually high in protein and iron
>fucks with your gut health
Almost anything will do this in a large enough quantity, but you don't even say how. It just "fucks" with it, yet any probiotic would easily replace any damaged/eaten bacteria.
>water can cause death
That's you right now.
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>>35496125
We all like to consume grains but it's obvious now grains and dairy cause auto immune disease aka Hashimoto's. They also create pathogenic gut bacteria making it harder to lose fat.

I will have to ask for the studies, I don't have them.
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>>35496145
N-no
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>>35496163
Most autoimmune diseases are genetic and are triggered by outside factors.

While diet is a factor in triggering these specific genes, it's not he sole cause. It's still silly to exclude everything with gluten.
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>cutting on 250mg test
>hungry as hell all the time
>breaking out
>up the test to 500 because yolo
>wanna be fuller
>no longer hungry/starving
>not breaking out

Explain this shit
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>>35496181
Your body is borked. No explanation for it.
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>>35496163
>grains and dairy cause autoimmune problems
Being a factor and possible INDIRECT cause does not mean it causes these problems. That's like saying food makes you obese, which is true but is not literally a danger as the chances of that happening are pretty much nonexistent when in moderation. Just like everything else anon, moderation. I don't doubt that a diet consisting solely of grain and dairy would cause problems but that's not balance, you're pretty much just trying to scare people off from eating grains and dairy when in fact they can have great nutritional value.
By the way the sun causes cancer, sex gives you aids, and existing leads to malignant tumors.
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>>35496161


Gluten has lectins, which causes insulin resistance. There are plenty of examples of vegans eating well over 500g carbs a day and they tend to get to lean out to a normal body fat. Lectins damage your gut lining causing leaky gut.

Non-grains tend to be anti inflammatory. Like sweet potatoes.

Look at the nutrients in potatoes, fruit, and other vegetables vs any grain.
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>>35496177
> It's still silly to exclude everything with gluten.
No it's not and it's really important to not spread bad information because you're attached to grains. We all love to consume grains but it's obvious what they do to us.

>>35496192
>Just like everything else anon, moderation.
Yes, everything. Also rape and genocide.

>By the way the sun causes cancer, sex gives you aids, and existing leads to malignant tumors.
Yep. But the chances are very low and you can't avoid them. With grains, the data is obvious that they are bad for you. And you can avoid them.
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>tfw i started a argument about gluten on the internet

brehs im sorry i have celiac & i get the shits big time with a mix of wheat belly shit is awful im just trying to help you brehs out.

Gluten causes alot of problems its not just a fad. not even talking about people with celiac it still causes, inflammation / leaky gut among other shit you can google if you want. i cut it out & i started making all kinds of gains due to better nutrition.
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>>35496189
Is this good or bad
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>>35496334
shit's fukked lad
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ITT: lazy fucks who don't want to work hard enough and just want easy results quick.

Do you guys really care that you're cheating yourselves? Sure you'll look beastly for as long as your on the juice but when you stop you're going to look like complete shit. Your aesthetics are fake, and your strength is fake and when you stop you'll realize how weak you actually are.
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>>35496334
You have the gays

I'm sorry
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>At the end of my cycle
>PCT still hasn't arrived.

Gyno reporting for duty.
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>>35496390
Yeah. Plus we've all got small nuts!
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>>35496390
Welcome to /fraud/

Enjoy your stay
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>>35496390
I lost my dick from roids. Still worth it
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>>35496397
>not ordering PCT before you begin

Why the fuck do so many people do this? It's fucking stupid.
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Gays, let's talk proviron. I hear it turns you into a horny aggressive beast of many boners. I am not even pinning right now, can I just take a proviron pill before a fight/funky ziet whatever to reap the mental effects without significant changes to my hairline?
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>>35496390
>but when you stop

>implying
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>>35496390
My penis fell off thanks to roids.
No ragrets
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>>35496397
>not having your pct on hand before you even start
Wot in the fuk are you doing m8
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>>35496390
>cheating

Who get's cheated, exactly.
Most users aren't athletes.

>muh, muh balls!

Whatever you say, kid.
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>>35496424
Go for your life.

It isn't a steroid, its mostly used to combat Tren side effects like becoming psychotic and limp dick
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>>35496428
>>35496427
>this autism
Have had tons lf relatives and friends roid and they looked amazing for a period of time but now they look fucking disgusting. I don't know about your dick falling off but your sperm count is definitely fucked.

On the real though, why don't you just train hard for a couple years?
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>>35496446
I jizz far more now than when I was not frauding.
>sperm count
Yeah because I totally wan't to have kids now
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>>35496446
>my uncles friends neighbours sons dogs best friends dogs owners regular customers autistic sons tard wrangler...
This doesn't mean shit.

>Why don't you just train hard for a couple of years
Because we don't want to and we are fully functioning adults (some are) who are cognitive enough to weight up the benefits and cons of steroid usage.

You're not saying anything new to us that we haven't heard 1 million times before, most of which is wrong but none of us really care to educate
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>>35496390
>when you stop you're going to look like complete shit.
No way am I ever coming off completely unless I really need to for health. Steroids are part of the fountain of youth.

>fake
The hormones and muscles in us are very real. Man-made doesn't mean fake.
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>>35496390
>Look like shit
Because Arnie these days looks like turd doesn't he?
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>>35496446
Not who you're talking to, I take peptides (thanks doc) for an injury, will later get some for mass gain.

They're nowhere near as strong as regular gear, I want to gain a few kilograms, taking them because I'm sick of being waylaid by injuries keeping me out of the gym and they help.

As for steroid users, it depends what they take and for how long, you will absolutely keep your muscles when you stop if it's around your natty limit already and you train correctly. Many users of gear have had exactly this.

"Steroids" is not 1 compound you get and you take 1 a day or something, usage varies widely.

If it's be called a cheater by dumbasses who don't understand how much injury sucks or gym, I choose gym. Sue me.
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>>35496479
Well..
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>>35496498
wrong pic

Dunno if you mistook arnie for stallone.
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>>35496508
>Using the intentionally worst picture

He's still got muscle, just got fatter and wrinkling, like all old people. This guy is expecting him to look like what he did during the Golden Age
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>>35496437
NICE

But I start taking it every day I will lose hair due to it being a derivative of DHT or some shit right?

Also what do you men by "Go for your life."

Found out they sell it here. 20 caps at 50mgs each for 17 euro. It's easy enough to get a prescription since it's C-class pharm
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>>35496520
The whole "using steroids will make you bald" is a myth.

Steroids may accelerate balding if you're already going to go bald in the future. And that's a big MAY, everyone reacts differently.

Go for your life, as in go for it.
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>>35496339
>>35496394
will an hero tonight t b h
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>>35496473
Just one question though, you say you're never coming off roids so obviously you plan on lifting for a long time, so if you're not in it for the short term quick results, why didn't you just go natty?

>>35496479
>Comparing yourself to Arnold
Lmao
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>>35496535
Live stream pls.

Make sure in your will to say
>All roids go to /fraud/
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>>35496539
roids make everything better
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>>35496520
My uncle lost his hair very quickly when he was on the juice.
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>>35496539
You're telling me Arnold is immune to the side effects of steroid usage?

And I'm not comparing myself. I'm telling you people just don't automatically turn to shit after stopping usage, Arnold is an example because he was one of the most rampant and well known users of steroids
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>>35496532
Well using steroids will make you bald by accelerating preexistent balding. Besides, we're talking about proviron and proviron like winstrol has a much higher probabily of making you go bald when compared to test or anavar.
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>>35496539
I hope you understand that at about 30 your test production goes does, by the time your 40 you can probably just get TRT.

So no matter what, you'd end up on roids anyway. May as well get huge in your prime when your joints still work and then just maintain it with TRT and regular training
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>>35494009
whats the best steroid to get if its my first time but i also want to lose a little weight? or will my increase in lifting cover it?

besides said roid what do i want to buy for when i come off? how much will a cycle most on average?
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>>35496520

Steroids will always increase shedding, whether people notice or admit it or not it does. The problem is genetic, are you able to recover the shredded hair or not? Only way to tell is to look at your family. Coming off will probably allow recovery if you are young enough but you will go bald in later life.
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>>35496564
Read this
http://pastebin.com/ys7xXYkL
Understand it

Then come back and ask questions
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>>35496548
Well no. You're giving the best possible example of a steroid user. I was talking about people who I know IRL that have done it, and stopped, and that's what I've seen first hand. I'd probably done the same if I hadn't seen them post-steroid use.
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>>35496575
>steroids will always increase shredding

Except that's bullshit. Some people get 0 side effects and some people get side effects so bad they die.

Working in absolutes like that when you're talking about a very diverse range of people with a fairly unpredictable substance is dumb
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>>35496576
no answer my question. not going to a random link.
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>>35496563
No. You lose about 1% every year. At 40 years old you will on average have lost 10% test, this can be more than compensated for by having a good diet and lifestyle with reduced stress, and by getting solid sleep. You guys dont know shit yet talk as if you do.
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>>35496577
Because your friends and relatives are fucking dumb and relied on steroids purely rather than actually diet and training

You will not lose your gains after you go off roids, provided they are within your natty limit. Prolonged steroid use actually increases your natty limit anyway.

All mass gained past your natty limit will be lost, you can maintain the rest by training and diet. So all of this shit about "fake muscles dissolving into nothing" is horeshit.
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>>35496591
Got a reference for that?

>>35496590
Shut up and read the fucking pastebin you idiot.
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>>35496577
Because they're most likely dumb faggots who didn't do a proper pct
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>>35496540
normies would think it was some kind of poetic take on my life kek

fraud? is this was sadguy called himself? all roids to fraud? omfg roids made him an hero... overdose... muh rage...
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>>35496616
That's literally how it would be twisted

Normies are fucking dumb and believe anything they hear
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>>35496591
But I want higher genetically elite test levels for life.
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>>35496591
Plus GH and low doses of T3 do wonders for anti aging.

We just want to be forever teenagers man.
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>burst stomach ulcer
>blood loss above 2 liters
>doctor told me if I wasn't donating blood regularily and didn't have "unusually high RBC" I'd be dead by now
>tfw roids literally saved my life
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>>35496629
T3 is good for anti aging?
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>>35496604
oh look a random 4channer acting hard. of course you couldnt answer me your a 300pound fatass troll.
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>>35496633
Damn brother.

2 litres. That's hypovolemic shock territory. Did it hurt? What happened?
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>>35496637
299lbs thank you
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>>35496637
>Wah Wah why won't people spoon feed me information like the autistic child I am
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>>35496633
Fuck yeah brah

That reminds me, I should donate blood this week. Gotta give those leukaemia patients some high test blood
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>>35496637
fuck off dickhead
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>>35496634
As you get older, thyroid isn't what it used to be. Some people are using as low as 12.5mcg EoD to have the same levels during their peak puberty years. I wouldn't bother with it until you're in your 40s or 50s. Younger than that and you should be fine naturally unless you're running boat loads of gear that's slowing your thyroid.

I use iodine and selenium. You will feel it speed up thyroid + other benefits like estrogen management and cancer risk reduction.
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>>35496655
just asking what a standard cycle runs. someone coulda answered that but instead i got 8 posts complaining like a girl on the rag.
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>>35496641
I didn't even notice it until I started getting into shock. Just thought I had random tummy ache.

If I wasn't doing medicine and wouldn't realize what's happening, I'd probably just lie down, take some aspirin and die, lol.

They stopped the bleeding like 3 hours ago and gave me a liter of saline and now I'm feeling like nothing happened except the tummy ache and little dizziness from anaesthesia. And well, I'm quite cold. Like having goosebumps and shaking mildly at something like 28 degrees in the room under 2 blankets with a heating pad.
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>>35496681
READ
THE
FUCKING
PASTEBIN
YOU
DUMB
CUNT
IT
HAS
EVERYTHING
YOU
WILL
EVER
POSSIBLY
NEED
FUCK
WIT

http://pastebin.com/ys7xXYkL
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>>35496683
Sounds fucking gnarly
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Not exactly /fraud/ related but have any of you had a cortisone shot? Did it work for you?

I'm thinking of getting one in my back.
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>>35496681
Do your own research you faggot fuck

Jesus christ
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>>35496703
Why are you taking corticosteroids?

They're catabolic?
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>>35496683
Glad you're ok m8, that's fucked.
What caused the ulcer?
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>>35496676
Just realised I don't even fully understand T3 and T4 except I know one is a derivative of the other.

Off to wikipedia
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>>35496711
For joints I'd imagine
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>>35496704
>>35496695


>roid rage isnt real they said


hahaha, oh wow. cant list a number becaue you dont know it seems.


just say 300$ or 600$ or whatever the number is. oh wait you dont know and dont want to get btfo it seems.
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>>35496726
You need to lay off the jimmy rustlin' new anon. Bp is up due to rons ITT as it is, no need to turn everyone salty
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>>35496726
Okay
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>>35496726
>autists in charge of damage control
cry more faggot
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>>35496701
shit's scary when I look back.

>>35496715
thank mate
every male in my family over 30 got issue with them, so some sort of genetic predisposition
along with stress and my habits during high stress periods - turk coffee all day everyday
eating once daily... I better get my life togheter real soon, but shit's hard during exams and with so much work
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>>35496734
>>35496735
>>35496738


>still no answer

how much does a basic cycle cost?

i see nothing about price in that shitty pastebin
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>>35496798
prices vary with location and market, retard <3
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>>35496798
Depends where you are you dumb nigger
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>>35496798
Nobody can tell you because it depends on
>What you're taking
>How much you want to take
>Where you are
>Who you can find
>What level of purity you're looking for (Peasant tier up to pharma grade)
>How long you're going to run it

It can range from $0 to in excess of $2000 given the factors.
You're just too fucking dumb to do your own research
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>>35495416
Nj is empty bae look into Marlton or voorhees if you live there lots o local at gyms.
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>Taking dbol
>Religious drinker of Pepsi max
>inb4 cancer, it helps curb sweet cravings
>Start randomly getting constipated or having dihorrea after I drink a can

What the fuck /fraud/?
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>>35496850
Cancer
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>>35495416
I live in aus, wanna trade places?
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>>35496857
Cancer is the least of my worries when injecting bathtub chemicals into my ass
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>>35496818
>It can range from $0
>You're just too fucking dumb


yeah let me get those 0$ steroids homie.... now who is the retard.

fine better question.

how much does everyone pay and for what and what country.
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>>35496984
If you find a guy who wants to give you a sample chcle because he believes you will be a big customer in the future, it's very fucking possible you fucking idiot.

Im not answering anymore of you're retard questions. Go back to snorting concrete you autist
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>>35496997
>>35496997
>. Go back to snorting concrete you autist


i think you mean go back to fucking your moms asshole.

in which case, sure thing. good luck with trolling on 4chan pretending you use steroids to seem cool.
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>>35497026
Basic cycle is pretty cheap. Especially if you order from a boss like me.
>arguing with people on 4chan
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>>35497139
what would be a estimate? just want a one steroid thing. not like a stack. plus what i need for when i come off so estrogen dont fuck me up.


want best price to effect ratio one. id also be interested in cheapest as long as it works and doesnt kill me.
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>>35497236
ín sweden 3 vial test e, nolva, hcg and aromasin is around 3500usd but you get quite a lot of nolva and aromasin though
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>>35497257


how long does that last? 3500$ is alot.
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>>35497276
3 months
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>>35497276
oh shit 350usd lol
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>>35497284
>>35497257
>Actually responding with a serious answer to this fucking child

He's just going to get scammed and end up injecting olive oil into his veins
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>>35497316
We should be so lucky
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>>35497236
>one steroid thing
>cheapest...but it doesn't kill me
>Want best price to effect ratio

Confirmed for going to die in less than 2 weeks into first cycle. At best you'll just end up injecting GSO and gain nothing, but walk away a few hundred dollars poorer but wiser
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>>35496254
I just woke up and the first thing I'm gonna do is eat a slice of white bread

I'm doing this for you bb
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>tfw new motorcycle is delayed by another day after being promised last Tuesday, then this Monday, then today and now I've been promised Wednesday
>I swear to god my roid rage is going to boil over if I call them up one more time and they say "Yes it'll be ready by x time today, come and pick it up." And then I drag my girlfriend down again to the dealership just to be told "We're so sorry...the bike isn't ready yet because x y reason"

Should I just start sticking my finger in their poopers to show them I'm done being fucked around? Only reason I haven't lashed out is because I don't want gf to see me lose it and scare her.
>/fraud/ is my personal blog
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>>35497294
thanks. that sounds about right from what people pay in chicago.
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>>35497416
go apeshit when your girl isn't there
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>>35497454
Go apeshit on your girl's vagina and leave and then go apeshit at the shop
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>>35497487
This is a good idea
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>>35497487
I just want my bike yo ;_; been so excited for it and it hurts getting disappointed over and over
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>>35496703
Anybody?
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>>35497595
someone replied to you and you ignored them

also pakis are repulsive, knock that shit off
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>>35497640
Because it wasn't related to what I asked and was a joke response anyway, there's no point.
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>>35497690
Mate I made the fucking post and was dead serious, why are you taking corticosteroids (which is what cortisone is)?
What benefit are you looking to gain? Because they are catabolic?
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>>35497718
to last longer in bed with ur mom
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>>35497745
They'll probably cause limpdick so that's not really going to work
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>>35497718
I see, fair enough.

I have a joint issue in my lower back, inflamed ligament(s) and it flares up whenever I do serious weight sessions so now I can't do back. Hurts a bit too whenever I do other stuff because of the tension going through it.

Probably a garden variety lower back strain, it's not healing and it's been a few months.

Got it a year and a half ago but it went away, now it's back with a vengeance.
>>
any1 here roiding while in the military?
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>>35497766
Well cortisone will definitely help.

If you're not keen on the catabolic effect and the idea of injecting woman hormones, you can try deca or NPP. Used by many elite athletes for muscle building as well as one of the best joint and tendon repairers

I'd dare say cortisone is "better" for joints and inflammation, but deca is the best anabolic compound
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>>35497797
doesn't cortisone just fix you up short term but fuck you long term?
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>>35497813
Couldn't say. I don't know a whole lot about it other than it's fantastic for joints and inflammation since every doctor prescribes it for joints and inflammation
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>>35497766
Get a massage and do mobility work and don't stop.
Lighten the weight if it's hurting, but keep lifting what you can.
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>>35497797
I wish this place had ID's, I'm who you're talking to.

I was looking at Deca at one point, though the doctor I asked about it flatly said "I could give it to you and it would work, but I'd lose my license in a week" thanks to ethics commissions and scared soccer moms, it's nearly impossible to get prescribed steroids.

However, I was able to find a doctor to prescribe me peptides, specifically Thymosin Beta 4 (TB500) which hasn't helped much I'm afraid, though it did make me stronger.

Why would cortisone negatively affect gains though?

It's going into a joint, not my entire body.
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>>35497766
yoga senpai. sounds gay but it really helps reduce and heal injuries with restorative blood flow. Just don't be the guy who gets caught staring at all the milf ass in yoga pants.
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>>35497880
Cortisone will be distributed through your entire body regardless of injection site. Your joints still receive oxygen via blood stream.
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>>35497925
Might look into it.

>>35497964
How big a loss are we talking?
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>>35497972
Depends on how fucked your back is which will determine how much of a dose you get.

I don't know anything about cortisone dosage or its catabolic rate. But gains will be made harder no matter what.
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>>35498005
I can deal with shit so long as it's temporary.

A week of missed gains beats keeping this injury, that's for sure.
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Hey Fraud -

It's the autist from last night that missed out on losing his vcard because mommy and daddy wanted him to come home. One of you replied and told me I'm a bitch, acting like a fat kid that wants to be fit but isn't willing to make the sacrifices. I needed to hear that, so thanks anon.
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>>35498157
Not the anon that said that. But saw the posts.

Tell us the story of what's gone down brah
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I'm having the most fucked up attempt at sleeping on tren

Every time I turn the lights off and close my eyes
>TECHNO MUSIC TECHNO MUSIC TECHNO MUSIC TECHNO MUSIC

Turn lights on again, it's gone. Think nothing of it, probably just my imagination, I'm very tired. Turn lights off.
>TECHNO MUSIC TECHNO MUSIC TECHNO MUSIC TECHNO MUSIC

It isn't even good techno music. What the fuck is going on inside my head /fit/? Anyone else get Tren Techno?
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>>35498183
Nothing really. I was up most of the night though reflecting, and that anon was right. I have a lot of opportunities to fix my situation and stand up for myself, etc, but I never do and always complain that I never do. Has really lit a fire under my ass -- haven't felt this way since I began lifting four years ago, so I'm hopeful that I'm going to stop being a bitch soon.

Did talk to my parents, and they kind of agreed -- told me that I can start contributing around the house, and they'll lax up. Basically "act like an adult and we'll start treating you like one."
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>Do quad injections
>Past couple of injections have hurt like a bitch, gone through veins, etc.
>Decide to spread skin, expose veins and guide needle away from them

10/10, recommend greatly. 0 pain when jabbing today.
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I wasnt able to see the thread from yesterday, what did tiny take or what do you think he took
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>>35498415
dead parents 500mg/week
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>>35498424
How did they die?
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>>35498439
Aids
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>>35494009
So I'm guessing that the needle itself must hold .1ml of test as I've only been getting 9 doses out of many different vials.

So to draw a true ml do you draw .9 ml to account for the space in the needle itself?

This is using 25 gauge 3 ml syringes.
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>>35494303
He didn't inject into an artery or he wouldn't be posting.

He probably did pass through one though.
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>>35498351
That's good to hear. The sooner the better. It gets complicated if you carry resentment into adulthood. But just remember you being treated as an adult is a given and unconditional. They can make their requirements clear but falling back on treating you like a kid is a no go. Your parents are human and mothers are tricky. Sometimes you need to push boundaries. There's no point being a good kid id you end up a middle aged fuck up later. Just follow your own code. Either way the short term goal is to live on your own. You'll end up with a better relationship with parents and you'll have space to appreciate what did to raise you. But don't ever let them cock block you. It's already a disgrace.
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>>35498583
>posting this shit
>child "models"

Fuck you, fuck off.
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>>35498583
pls nigger don't cuck this thread
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>>35498603
>child
pretty sure it is a teenager
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>>35498583
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>>35498234
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>>35498234
bro thats the sign of a brain anersym....
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19 years old 287 ng/dl testosterone 37 pg/ml or whatever of estradiol and 2.4 LH and 1.4 FSH

Do i have a brain tumor? Never used any drugs at all besides shit like dayquil when i get sick, not even weed, not roids
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>>35498731
what did your doc say?
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>>35498467
implying it matters abit, gear is overdosed,underdosed cooked in a bathtub, literally makes no difference if you take 0.9 or 1ml
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>>35498741
Got it done myself, no doc involved. Gp docs dont know shit about this kind of stuff anyway
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>>35497508
Shit down their necks, I would've been livid on the third delay, let alone them giving you a specific time of day and you going in with company to pick it up.

If you don't call those assholes and have every bolt-on accessory added to that shit for free, done by the end of the day, you're a bitch.
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>>35496517
He could look better.
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>>35496059

It's not hard to avoid gluten, it's just hard to have cookies and avoid gluten. Oats are generally lacking gluten and are good for your heart and your dick.

>>35496163
> grains and dairy cause autoimmune disease and pathogenic gut bacteria

That's ridiculous but I'm not feeling scientific atm. Grains (and soy) are shit, yes, although oats and rice are pretty good.

However, grass-fed milk is creamy as fuck, it's delicious. Perhaps dairy from grain-fed cows is the problem.
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Just received anastrozole tablets 30x1mg how do I take them as Ai? .25 of 1 eod?
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test
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>>35499060
superdrol
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>>35499124
creatine
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best way to hit rear delts?
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what's a good source of fats?
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>>35499189
Facepulls, bent over flies, reverse pec deck

>>35499195
Vials
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>>35499189
cable rear delt flies are my favorite

>>35499195
meat
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>>35499195
avacado, steak, fat bitches who suck good dick
>>35499189
rear delt machine or isolation movements for rear delt. I dont remember what they are called.
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future makes the most boss workout music
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>>35499481
cough syrup rap is the best type of rap
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>>35496390
you seem mad friend

have a funny gif to cheer you up buttercup
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>>35499481
Future is trash
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>>35498947
Maybe the self made millionaire who married into royalty and became famous and was elected governor of a state that he can't even pronounce doesn't give a fuck what some faggot on the internet thinks of his physique in his mid 60's.

Feel free to upload pics and shut Ahnuld down, kek. Faggot.
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>>35499182
tren
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>>35498583
No
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>>35499627
Rap is trash
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>>35499704
I'll trash ur mum
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>>35499189
Bent over rear delt flies with your head on an incline bench for mass. Facepulls the way omar isuf does them for shoulder health. Bonus points if you use a band instead of the rope.
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>>35499775
Good luck, her ashes a spread across the farm she grew up on
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>>35495829
5/8-3/4 is actually best for traps and delts imho
I use 1" for quads also.
1.5 is best for glutes from what I hear, and I use 5/8 for literally anything else.
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>>35499928
the farm i fucked her on b4 totally benching 400 lbs in hay and animals and shit fgt
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>>35499860
why band instead of rope?
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>>35500081
More resistance when you're externally rotated, less when you're internally rotated. Its just hard to get the right band and distance off the bat.
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Would a prohormone like epidrol do anything helpful while on a TRT (250mg) dose of test? I have a buddy looking To sell a few bottles of havoc.
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what's a good PCT? hcg, clomid, proviron and?
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>>35500221
It really depends on what you where running and for how long
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>>35500346
12 weeks of 250 deca and 500 test.
>>
Just took my BP

142
97

95bpm resting heart rate

Fuck
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>>35500221
does proviron actually do anything or is it just for sex drive?
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>>35500353
Proviron is not pct. I would try npp instead of deca because deca takes a whiile to kick in and a while to clear so it'll fuck with your pct. if you do that all you need is nolva.
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>>35494009
What If i roid to hit natty limit
then I stop it and hit the gym and keep my lifts up and follow a real fucking good diet
what could go wrong?
p-pls respond
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>>35500553
I mean,keep hitting
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>>35500553
Not much could go wrong except you don't know what your natty limit is. Make sense? But if you do a cycle or two to shortcut your lifting and then keep lifting hard and diet correctly you'll be okay. But that also probably won't happen for too long.
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>tfw everyone around you keeps buying junk food
I just want to get ripped
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>>35500584
Will I lose the gains even with upkept lifts and perfect-like diet?
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>>35500616
to give you an idea 1 cycle is not enough to get as big as you want.
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Mirin my first blast /fruad/?

All compounds are pharma grade, either from india or greece, 100 % legit ( I know there are many fakes yes)

500mg test e w1-20
400mg deca w1-18
30mg dbol ED w1-8

Aiming to make some crazy ass gains, diet and routine are on point, first pin next monday

Yehhh buuddyyy
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>>35494009
What dark webs do Aus people use?
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>>35500679
Niggerjuice.net
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>>35500794
>Niggerjuice.net
This is why reddit is officially better than 4chinks
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>>35500821
back to reddit then my friend.
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>>35500665
looks good. take your tudca
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>>35500905
will do amigo
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>>35500203
Any 1?
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yoh time
RIP heart

>>35500821
gb2gaia
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>>35500821
Well reddit does have a sub reddit where source talk is all they do. So yes there are some things reddit has going for it
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>>35501053
If you are on TRT (doctor prescribed) you shouldn't really need or want any extra stuff imo
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>>35501134
Self-administered TRT desu
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>>35501174
Then yolo
From what I remember reading about it, it has terrible sides. Read up on it and decide for yourself

Also you may as well say your on a cruise not TRT :^)
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>>35501174
Go to steroids.com/havoc.php
It sounds like you want to take a liver protecting supplement as well
I don't see any reason not to take it as if you are doing TRT your natty test must be pretty low so it can't do much harm that way
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>on a gram of tren
>get piercings
>can't sleep with my crystal triangle dangling earrings
>take it off
>next morning the wounds fucking regenerate near completely and I gotta repierce it
>never fucking gets better


FUCK FUCK FUCK WHEN WILL THIS DAILY IRRITATION END?!

it's bad enough pinning myself 3 times a week, now I gotta pierce both ears every single fucking day.
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>>35501387
the worst things is that you are not even trolling because there have been pictures posted of a guy with blue earrings
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>>35496703
Yes
Did not help shoulder joint pain for me
>>
That feel when tempted to take roids.

hook me up senpai.
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>>35501387

Whats tren?
>>
>tren
>night sweats
>out of breath
>no strength gains
>no sex rage
Mfw
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>>35501432
Take some midol and go back to the gym
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>>35501387
Why peirce your ears?
>>35501429
Google is your friend
>>35501408
There is sub Reddits for steroid source talk. Cant talk about it here
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>>35501387
you're suppose to leave in the damn earrings until your wound heals... that takes like 4-6 weeks bud and you took it out the first day. haha
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>>35501432
enth or ace?
I've noticed Enth I don't really feel anything other than night sweats, insomnia, and run out of breath easily.
Ace I get all the positives like short fuse, rapey sex cravings, and wicked strength gains
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>>35501542

its been 6 weeks genius, didn't start removing the trainee earring till 5.
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>>35501559
to be fair, you didn't specify that you waited five weeks. Pretty sure everyone here was thinking you were a dingus and took them out the very next day.
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>>35497766
>cortisone
tb500 + deca + equi imo would be better.
>>
Wew got some pharma nolva from a pharmacy in mexico. So fucking cheap.

This doesnt count as source talk does it?
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>>35501559
Leave a stud in overnight. You can pick up a pack of like 20 at Walmart for like $5.
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>>35501670
rite? they're like 4bucks for 2 weeks worth of 20mg
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>>35501670
I don't think so, but I got booped yesterday for saying 3 places that you can find a source if you look for one
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>>35501717
Does banned get filtered to booped or something
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>>35501674
What kind of fagit pierces their ears
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>>35501744
I wasn't banned (or it was a 1 sec ban) my post was just purged
IDK where I started saying booped for banned I think it came from the sound a ban hammer would make or something stupid
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>>35501748
Email me nah mean
Dildofaggins at safe
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>>35501748
I only have one pierced ;)
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Who got the plug on cialis?
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>>35502018
Send me some as well plox
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>>35502018
ur fat whore mom
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Anyone hear of dr emmanuel asare for gyno surgery in new york
? Going for a consult tomorrow
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>>35502060
me three and some accutane
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>>35502074
Who do you need cialis for?
She qt?
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>>35502060
Did you find out about my package? I swear to God, if they send it back I'll fuck your sister.
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>>35502088
yas hopefully
Engaged anon that's planning to leave his fiance from yesterday
gonna try and pick up gamer girl
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Cialis is cheap af niggas I buy that shit from evolution peptides
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>>35502137
looking into it now.
First I've heard of it lol
>inb4 turk gets me arrested
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>>35502115
sweeet man.
Best of luck to you
Not that you'd need it :3
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Best Oral? Bestest Oral? SuperDrol??

Also...10-20mg for 4 weeks tops?
>>
hey guys i'm ...writing a fiction story about someone who want to become a steroid dealer.

so it goes like this: there is a person in china who can get his hands on steroid powders from a legit pharmaceutical company. then he will put it inside one out of many food packages seal it to make it look like spices and ship it to the US
now how should this guy customers? host a website anonymously? can you even do that?
use westernunion's quesiton and answer option instead of ID? do they even offer that anymore?
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>>35502152
d'awwwww tanks desu :3
yer too kind
>>35502154
Personally, Superdrol is my favorite oral compound, but I'm trying Halo on my next blast. Hoping it lives up to the hype.

hey guys, what are the requirements to earn a trip 'round here. Don't wanna tripfag if I ain't earned it.
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>>35501547
Was ace. Maybe I was running 2 low a dose. 100mg eod.
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>>35502190
There is only one requirement
>not being a beta that asks if he can trip
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how do I eat this tuna best

im doing psmf so options limited
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>>35500614
If you can't get control of it, strict keto helps.
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JJ, any ETA on when business will be running again?
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>>35502190
I only namefag cause I want people to hate on me but it didn't work that well
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>>35502137
oh, and yo turk. Does that liquid accutane come with its own dropper?
>>35502192
same anon you're quoting. Could have been. I dunno. I've run 800mg/wk Tren-E and didn't feel shit. Ace I ran 50mg eod and felt all the perks. At 150mg eod I felt like a God. Next time I run Ace it'll be in the 700-800mg/wk range.

Everyone is different, so you might need a little more juice to feel the kick, or you might be the opposite of me and won't feel good on ace but feel like a beast on Tren-E
>>35502235
Nigga, I wasn't "asking" permission to trip. L2Comprehension
>>35502262
I'm same, and it makes it easier for people to realize they're still talking to the same person sooooo hurr I go.
>inb4shaton4name
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how do dealers recieve their money without getting caught? from what i know you need ID at westernunion to recieve money.
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>>35502262
IIRC people hated on your haircut when you posted it
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>>35502154
Depends what you mean by "best"
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>>35502298
Probably. All the liquid shit I've gotten from there does. But you'll want an oral syringe anyway for accuracy.
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>>35502155
In this fictatios story of yours the main character sends his favourite namefriend from a bukakka image board some powders, brcause his favourite namefriend told him to make a reddit ccount and go to the sub reddit
steroid
source
talk
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>>35502304
Its not illigal to collect money from WU tho
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>>35502304
I only accept bitching, personally
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>>35502465
That was supposed to say bitcoin lel.
Oh, autocorrect
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>>35502305
True but everyone who posts pics gets hate for something. I want to be hated on for no reason
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>>35494303

Don't pullback the plunger, it has been shown to be innefective and it also increases the chances of injury.
Also gluteal regions should be not used for intramuscular injections because there are nerves and you're likely to fucj yourself up. Try ventrogluteal regions, they are reccomended.

Source: I'm a nurse.
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someone bake a new bread plox
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>>35502508
You are too nice and tell good stories to be hated on for no reason
You need to be a full blown JM to get unsolicited hate
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>>35502536
That is simply not true.
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There was a guy curling in the seated shoulder press station. Like standing over the seat and curling the bar.
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>>35502536
Thinking about it..

>>35502546
U calling me rude, bro?
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>>35502561
>>35502561

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