$500,000 net worth required to post
kay anon,whatever floats your banana
I actually think it's a decent fit. He's skinny so that's nice. I'm surprised to see Stans work.
>/fa/ - where people will hate you for having money
I don't have money, but I think that's pretty weak.
>tucking your disheveled dress shirt into your low rise skinny jeans that you still pin roll because FASHION and topping it off with a bright orange belt
good example of what not to do if you want to look like a man and not a fuccboi supreme
I don't find this to be true at all. Ok, I have no idea about Gates, Zuckerberg and people like that of whom there are only a handful in the world.
But I know wealthy, like really wealthy (8-9 figures nw) people, and they don't have a set 'style'. They just have a bunch of quality stuff. They have nice suits, nice casual wear, younger people have street wear, they have quality basic pieces like rollnecks, sweaters, jeans and shoes.
I don't think you can pin down 'wealthy' people as one huge mass of people, since that group includes all sorts of people from murderous drug families to industrialists, old money dynasties and startup entrepreneurs. They're just human beings, some with good taste and some with poor.
I think the one unifying characteristic is the fact they prefer quality. You might not see any outward logos or indicators of brand, but you can instantly tell from the cuts and materials the piece of clothing is expensive.
That has become a hallmark of wealth to me.
I can spot a genuinely wealthy person man or woman that way. Their clothes are not loud or attention seeking, you can just tell they are expensive.
Dress conservatively, keeping the flair in te accessories, and buy nice stuff. Start with Brooks Brothers for most pieces, Filson or Barbour for outerwear, and try to get accessories from less mainstream places like custom leather shops, less memey sunglasses brands (Persol instead of Ray Ban). Wear socks that stand out just a touch. People are gonna say this is MFA-tier, but avoiding that is all about the specific pieces.
You buy stuff like Loro Piana, Brunello Cucinelli, Brioni, Bottega Veneta, Tomas Meier, Saint Laurent and so forth.
Google these brands and check the materials, price tags and cuts of their products and you will understand.
Even a novice can tell the clothes are ultra-high quality despite having no visible branding. The materials alone look very appealing and soft. It's a look that can't be replicated with cheap chinese knockoffs, it's something that can only be achieved with money.
you are kidding right? if youve ever seen fit threads you would know this place is crawling with trust fund kids who have no purpose in life except shopping for 4-5 digit clothes on mrporter / netaporter / matchesfashion
thats not to say they achieved this wealth on their own, but wealth gained for free from parents still counts
Two very different, but equally valid takes on the same question. I think the key lies in the similarities between these two answers. All these brands are something Joe Average isn't going to recognize without seeing the label, and they've all been around for at least a few decades.
>posting when you aren't qualified for the thread
There's a $500k minimum bud, get out.
I can appreciate the fact a Loro Piana cashmere sweater looks better than anything else I've tried during my life. I've seen them at Bergdorf and Saks, and they are truly out of this world. They also feel exquisite, I'm guessing they are using the finest cashmere yarns available on the planet.
But then there is also the issue that some of them cost more than my 6 year old car.
These are not just some everyday impulse purchases for average people like me. These items are geared towards very high net worth individuals.
Let alone their Vicuña items, in poorer countries you could buy a house for those prices. That's borderline tasteless conspicuous consumption, a spit in the face of poor people.
I'm "qualified" to post in this thread and drive a 16 year old Ford, so I understand feeling that way about prices and ostentation for sure.
I really think the Brooks Bros/Filson/Persol/Red Wing approach works just as well and is a lot less expensive. That's how I dress and I get lots of unsolicited compliments and questions about my clothes.
I've had girls I was hooking up with check the labels on my jeans (Naked and Famous) and jackets (Barbour) out of curiosity. People really don't ID that stuff right away, but they know it's good.
Brooks Brothers is such a household name that people sleep on it, but they've rarely let me down.
>500k net worth "fashion interests me" memelord
Their Inca (or whatever) sandals are really nice, though.
It's a Nautilus.
>The materials alone look very appealing and soft
This is very true. Merino, cashmere, vicuña etc. aren't as stale and lifeless as your average made-in-Bangladesh clothing made from 90% plastic.
Personally I love Drumohr for luxury sweaters/jumpers, always get a lot of compliments when wearing them and girls love to snuggle against some good quality cashmere.
I don't even care what you cucks are wearing, just posting here because I qualify for the thread.
like what the fuck is this shit
bag is lame and would take attention away from a decent fit, have some fuckin taste
500k total net worth is pretty good but definitely not super rich.
If you look at the statistics for net worth and then remember that the majority of most peoples' net worth is tied up in a house, $500k in liquid assets looks really fucking strong.
Huh, I guess this fits in a bit.
I'm on the upswing of becoming relatively well-known, and also getting a pretty big boost in income. I'm getting interviews and photos and shit, and my "style" is coming from basic-ass lower-middle-class college kid. I'm in a weird territory of not being famous enough for "style and image" people to throw themselves at me, but famous enough to where it's going to matter. Are there stylists that specialize in iconic? Wealthy? All searches lead to "how to dress like a rich person on a small budget," not "this is what to do when you are rich".
The government uses your assets to determine net worth, so for 99% of people that means the vast majority comes from your house.
If you mean people who have 500k to just blow on skiing holidays to Aspen, cashmere sweaters from Loro piana and brand new Teslas or Audi RS7:s, those make up like 0,01% of the planet.
Very few people have that sort of liquid wealth available. And of the few that have (less than 1% in the US), most have it in bonds or other non-liquid forms rather than stocks or cash. 500k in cash is a huge amount. Most sovereigns and cabinet ministers in the world can't get anywhere near that amount for personal spending.
Most of the time, you couldn't tell rich people are rich just by their clothes.
Most of the time, they just couldn't give a shit what plebs thought of them and would only dress up when they're rubbing elbows with fellow rich folk.
Does anyone have any loro piana cashmere sweaters? are there different types that are better or worse? there were a few during the mr porter sale going for around 300 or 400, most likely 400 but they looked really plain.
meh, in my experience you can tell. Actual wealth doesn't mean flashy, but when if you're close to them you will see the quality difference. Plus the watch is an easy way to tell if they are actually wealthy (unless it's a fake).
My dad gave me a 'baby cashmere' cable knit LP for birthday 2014. It feels absolutely stunning. It's the softest clothing I have ever felt in my life.
As far as buying them myself goes, I couldn't afford them. Loro Piana does also sell plain crew neck cashmere sweaters for about $800, and a few pieces in odd sizes might go as low as 400-500 on sale on luxury sites like mrporter during winter. Those might be more accessible.
Most of their stuff costs 4 digits though, so I'm not going to be able to build a wardrobe out of it. But one can always dream.
That being said, their cuts are slim and every garment is hand made in Italy. It's pretty much the pinnacle as far as I know, only Brunello Cucinelli comes remotely near (and is equally expensive).
the cheapest you can get nice cashmere sweater/cardigan will be around the $300/400 range.
Now there places that sell it cheaper, because it's a different brand.
I know J Crew did at least used to use Loro Piana cashmere in their 100% stuff.
>Actual wealth doesn't mean flashy, but when if you're close to them you will see the quality difference.
this, you just notice it's not that acrylic zara crap worn by basic bitches, real quality looks like quality, it cant be faked, plus expensive clothes have really nice cuts
As a female I absolutely adore Loro Piana, I would probably donate eggs or kidneys for some of their stuff. The menswear is really great, too.
By the way, when J. Crew says their 100% cashmere products come from a "world renown mill in Italy", it means they are bound by contractual agreement to say it comes from Loro Piana (because it's a very exclusive high end brand).
There is an article detailing their mutually beneficial arrangement. They do source the finest cashmere available, it comes from Loro Piana, but they are not allowed to use that fact in advertising, that info is only for "people in the know" (i.e. people who care enough to look into this stuff).
believe me i've tried, loro piana baby cashmere or the heavier cashmere sweaters and zip ups never go on sale, the only thing you'll ever get in sale from them is the basic crew necks in s or xs sizes at the end of a season
there is an ebay aftermarket for the finer knits and sweaters, but people are bidding up to 80-90% of their original retail value even if they are used, so it's difficult to find a bargain, unless you find a really clueless seller that doesn't recognize the value of their item & puts it on sale for a 'buy now' price and you quickly snatch it
Check their official site. They are obscenely expensive. As in you will probably be depressed unless you belong to the 1%. But I had some success buying them up on styleforum.
People apparently get these from relatives and some don't realize what they have in possession, and you can get pretty nice deals. I've bought some pieces used only 1-2 times for 60% of retail.
i tend to avoid buying things made in china but ill have a look at j crew for now. i'll look around online for loro piana knits too, maybe ill suck it up and buy a couple of knits that i really like in the future directly from them. wouldn't they be a bit cheaper in eu?
i've looked around online and instore a little bit before but now that i've checked again i see there's quite a big range of prices for knits. i'll look around styleforum thanks
>Brooks Bros/Filson/Persol/Red Wing approach works just as well
>jeans (Naked and Famous) and jackets (Barbour)
>Brooks Brothers is such a household name that people sleep on it, but they've rarely let me down.
wow you literally are "Reddit.com/r/mfa: the person."
Now that you mentioned it, the euro prices are actually a bit more favorable than the usd prices For example the same sweater could cost €1095 or $1495 (even after currency conversion, big disadvantage for the dollar buyer).
It seems there is a slight markup for US customers.
But not significant enough to make them affordable if you can't drop 4 figures on a sweater in the first place (I unfortunately cannot).
That's actually interesting....usually it's the other way round and pound sterling/euro is going to be more expensive than USD
The best time was when the pound was 2:1 with USD. Everything was like half off lol
I know plenty of people with 8 digit net worths who consider those brands a splurge. They've never owned a pair of jeans that cost more than $60, never mind $160, and I know you're thinking that real high quality raw denim costs $600 but that would blow their minds. That mindset has a lot to do with how they got so wealthy.
The largest landholder in my state wears a lot of Joseph A. Bank stuff. A former director of a major bank wears Nike track suits day in and day out and Brooks Brothers suits when he absolutely has to wear a suit. If we're going to have a wealth core thread, let's have one, but don't tell me about what I know first hand.
Maybe people worth 9 digits and up don't give a shit anymore, but I think 8 digits is enough to at least be marginally rich.
The biggest factor comes from the material itself though, even though construction certainly helps. A nice merino or cashmere wool will always 'drape/fall' (or whatever, how it follows your body) better than lower quality wools and synthetics which are generally quite stale and dead.
I'm currently trying to build a wardrobe with just good quality stuff and the difference to my old clothes is huge. Drumohr makes quite affordable clothes in really good quality, currently wearing a grey jumper in cashmere from them - feels great!
Not to mention Fedeli, Doriani, Drumohr, Johnston of Elgin etc.
They all make sweaters in the $300-800 range, which is still quite a lot, but not quite the kick in the nuts that LP is. Any cheaper and it's either not very good quality material or the construction is shit and will fall apart instantly.
Just placed an order for an overcoat to be used during spring/fall, should take about 5-6 weeks before it's time for the first fitting...
Anyone else hate the wait? Some say it's an enjoyable process, but I just want my shit now.
can we try posting some good brands for a change?
check licensed vendors like Saks and Neiman's and Bergdorf's, they usually put the LP on sale at the end of the season. Very reasonable
for what it's worth I think the OP looks like a complete tosser
that much brandwhoring is asking to be punched in the dick
500k net worth isn't that much if you're not living in hicksville. I live in vancouver and everyone has a million dollar house. even if they're teachers or policemen.
well the loonie is basically monopoly money at this point so that's not very impressive
>being mad about not living in a country run by quota elected idiots
you can keep your weed and feminism. I'll keep my constitutional rights and capitalism
People in financial industries basically get to use their monopoly money created from thin air in the real economy to buy their superyachts and £200m London apartments.
But the rest of us still have to work for every dime, and for the rest of us even a thousand bucks is a tough sell for a piece of clothing. We basically get the breadcrumbs of the modern economy, the peanuts.
My dad is somewhere between 7-8 digits and he would kill me, or at least assault me if I bought anything from the Loro Piana store.
Me and my sister have parallel mastercards and he pays for our expenses, but if I'm gonna order those cashmere sweaters, my card is gonna be deactivated in less than a week.
I already have to justify restaurant bills and $150 jeans. It's not like I just get free reign to do whatever I want with his money. Those items are obscenely pricey.
your dad sounds like a cocksucker tbqh pham
if not spoiled kids like you, then who the fuck actually affords this stuff or makes a wardrobe out of them?
drug dealers? families of corrupt 3rd world dictators? russian state embezzlers living abroad? mafia guys?
Those too, but also the Wall Street types to whom money is really just a bunch of numbers, since they have a ridiculous amount of it and they just keep piling on massive bonuses and more numbers. They can order 20 at a time like they were ordering coffee.
what does >ayyyy stands for.? i´m new fag
>tfw business made over half a million euro last yearbut the government jewed me almost all of it
I can waste money on expensive stuff but for some reason I can't let myself buy some 1k belt or a rolex for example, it's just too much for something without any value at all
I also want to get a mustang but dropping over 80k for a car is just too much
barely middle class scum checking in
I saw that Loro Piana was mentioned
just chimed in to say I have this Supreme x Loro Piana Wool Overcoat and its probably the finest piece of clothing I have ever owned
Bemberg lining, button front closure with velvet collar..... hnnnng
I agree with you it being a meme brand but they have a few top tier pieces. This being one of them
I think you guys aren't taking into account income.
There are plenty of millionaires that don't spent much, just because they have assets worth over $5M, it doesn't mean their income matches.
If I had $5M in the bank, but no income, I wouldn't be spending it the same as someone who had $5M, but $2M in annual net income.
This is why investing is such a large part of wealth, because it secures your wealth based on percentage margins of your investments.
>Not knowing that Issey Miyake did Jobs' wardrobe for him
Brin wants to be seen as the everyday, Silicon Valley upper-middle-class programmer, and his dress reflects that. Zuckerberg's literally autistic, so fuck him.
ITT: Poor people being angry at people with money
Calm your asses down, the only people that flaunt their shit with LV bags and fucking Gucci buckles (that fucking H belt is starting to go the same way) are newrich people that don't know how to handle money and will be broke in a few.
Family is pretty well off financially and I can spend money if I want but once you get to the point where you don't REALLY have to worry about money you don't really feel the need to buy shit.
The easiest way to say it is like when you want to watch a movie, you get on Netflix start browsing then you don't find shit you want and do something else. That's basically how it is once you get "wealthcore," money.
I'm not posting shit since I don't gloat or brag since it's tacky but just relax damn at the end of the day it's only money.
it's people calling the outfit shit just because it's "wealthcore," labeled, then people shitting on other peoples opinions on what brands are considered wealthcore
It's just a clusterfuck of shit slinging
I see so many LV bags at airports. I just can't comprehend the purpose in buying something that is ridiculously more expensive than something else of equal or greater quality that will serve the exact same purpose and which you don't have to worry about getting lost/stolen/damaged
Here is putin in a loro piana tracksuit.
what a worthless pleb thing to say... Wuhey i live near him:^)
Im special, my neighbor also lives by him, and sergey brin lives inside of sergey brin's body!!
I dont know where you live, but i live near where sergey brin lives :)
Cool eh? I bet you live further away from sergey brin than i do.
My close friends group are wealthy. All went to Upper Canada College (most prestigious private school in Canada) and now go to Ivey Business at Western University or Queen's Commerce. Kids who were super smart went to American Ivy leagues.
The friends who stayed in Canada dress very laid back:
The trendier ones wear Reigning Champ, John Elliot + Co, APC, Acne, Moncler, Canada Goose, Lulu lemon, Red Wings, Common Projects, New Balance are a few of the mainstays with occasional more showy items like designer hi tops from Margiela or a bomber from Paul Smith or something like that. Very comfortable but expensive clothes. Generally avoid flashiness and visible labels
New money/basic bros wear boring ass expensive stuff. Burberry, Prada, Gucci, Louis Vuitton, Hermes, Salvadore Ferregamo, Armani, Hugo Boss, you get the idea. Tacky, gaudy outfits that basically function to advertise their wealth. They also don't coordinate and will wear Hugo Boss sweatpants with Versace sneakers and a university sweater.
I imagine when we're older we'll all transition to wearing suits, but the style and branding totally depends on occupation. Investment, law, and consulting all have different styles. For example, going into consulting, I'm just going to wear Indochino and other mid-tier suits because dressing better than your boss is a big no no; I've been told that even bringing a designer briefcase to work would be a faux pas until I've become more established.
It really depends on office environment as well. Generally consultants don't try to out dress their clients, for example, and may be more casual or allow for more fashion-forward options. In general, I've found ties just aren't required anymore. Nobody cares if you're wearing a tie as long as you have a suit.
A friend and I got a job at one of the top consulting firms and he's wearing suits from JC Penny and Zara. People don't really give a shit as long as you look clean and presentable. Nobody cares about where suits come as long as they're tailored.
It doesn't matter. Most assets are at least somewhat liquid. What matters is that holding and managing capital begets more capital, and spending capital on belts does not. Of you understood what money can accomplish over time if you hold on to it, you'd understand being tight with it despite a high net worth and income.
I know a doctor who earns $3 million per year and drives a ford 12 passenger van every day. He loves it because he can put his large family and their friends in it all at once. He could buy an Aventador every year, but he doesn't because he's not retarded and had plans for that money.
I think it depends on the lifestyle. That doctor sounds like a "family" guy and would rather spend/save on his kids futures/vacations.
But there are some that value certain materialistic things more than others, no point in buying a lambo if it doesn't make you feel better about yourself.
Thing is we need people to keep spending/investing their wealth, instead of saving it. Saving it is pointless at a certain point.
Doesn't school cost quite a lot in the states?
Having ~$500k in your bank doesn't seem like that much when most will go to your kids college funds if they have any plans on attending higher studies...
Yes, but it depends.
There is In-state tuition, which is A LOT cheaper than out of state. It can range from $2k to $10k a semester.
Then you have grants/scholarships.
Most kids that have the opportunity want to go out of state, that will cost at least $20-$25k per semester, not including housing. But federal/school loans, and scholarships should help.
Its only about $23,000 a quarter. 3 quarters to a year. Winter is for double majors, failed courses or advance track/ PhD and masters lever students.
It's a tad bit more for a graduate degree, like $27,000 a quarter but you're working at that point.
The vast majority of students who come from lower income families get a subsidy or multiple.
And to apply for gov subsidies they only need to fill one form to receive multiple grants, scholarships and loans called a fafsa, free application for student aid or something. I didn't qualify since my parents had quite a bit over the net worth cap to qualify for anything.
Despite not seeing a dime of that.
Women, I'd say 95% or so have so many grants that if they qualify for all of them can make a profit from attending college perpetually.
There are less grants for men, I think a white man from a modest middle income lifestyle will not qualify for any grants
His only hope would be to excel at something to gain third party scholarship attention
>a white man from a modest middle income lifestyle will not qualify for any grants
Thank God I don't live there or I'd be doomed to poverty...
University studies were free over here (or you could apply for ~$450/month if you wanted to), but we also have the lowest gap between skilled and unskilled workers. Still, could always move to a different country like England or Germany where the pay is good when I'm done with school here.
I just feel sorry for people who have to pay to further educate themselves and, you know, become a more productive member to society...
Like say you want to get a masters degree. That's 4 x ~$25k = $100k/year x 5 years = $500k. Which is the cut-off for this thread. That's just a ridiculous system, even with all the grants.
It's about 6-7 years for a masters here due to wait lists for courses and course availability.
I used to have a file of my total spending for 7 years in college, gas food, books, computers, phone, phone bill, mortgage, power water clothing etc and it was near ~1.9 mil? So not that much
But the house I lived in sold for more than I bought it for and I got rid of a lot of stuff
For that kind of money, you could just bought a really nice house in like Asia or Europe and used the rest of the money to live a good life. Maybe work in a boutique or some shit on the weekend and use what little money you get from there to splurge on good clothes.
Or make a nice investment portfolio or something.
>tfw didn't jump in the fingerprint bandwagon
So you spent 270k a year while in college? Just how full of shit are you? Not even Harvard kids spend that much, or people living in £10k/month London flats during their studies.
I live in southern California and my parents helped me a lot near the end. Most of that was the house and upkeep and money invested into like putting walls and flooring into it. But the house going up in value over the years had helped cover living expenses.
I can't live in a London flat, I own guns, I can't get a visa to England and I can't understand half of what English people say
So finding a job in Europe is nearly impossible for an American.
I didn't have all of the money I spent in college upfront. My parents gave me money to live on, helped cover expenses. I bought 2 new cars while in college.
If you go back and figure out what you spent to exist for 7 years you would be amazed yourself.
Hugo Boss makes alright stuff
Liking my new coat so far, I'd recommend it.
My house is literally worth three times this and it's not even something I mentally include in my net worth because it doesn't make me anything and I plan on never selling it. 500k net worth is like my-pretty-lame-house-is-mortgage-free-core.
My parents are average, middle class Britons and have a net worth of 500k. My grandparents are just boomers and have a net worth of around $1mil (they own a few houses)
A few people in my family have become 'property millionaires' my great uncle purchased a house in Islington in the 80's for around £25k, it's now worth over £1million.