Has anyone else noticed a sharp decline of "normies"

>>10879108
>normal everyday men
No, they weren't. People you see on the web are typically a small portion of the population. An echo chamber at that.

>>10879116
I mean that "internet culture" impacted average how i met your mother watching fucks to the point were ray ban aviators and clarks desert boots with some form/shape of dark washed/raw denim were a common sight among the majority of young men

usually some for of 514 in a dark wash or an off store-brand

>>10879108

You stop "caring" so much when you figure out what to do and figure out your thing. My interest level went from active interest in 2010 to habitual interest now. I've figured out my look, I've copped the pieces I wanna cop, and overall nothing is whipping me into a frenzy of excitement anymore.

>>10879672

what is your look?

so seig its 2016 now how tall do you weigh

>why do people not wear the same clothes as 5 years ago

isnt that called fashion

>>10879672
Pretty much this. You don't need anyone else's input anymore, you don't need inspo. When you've been at it for long enough you just know what's good and what's not.

>>10879108

finally
But true only for those in the know tho, tryhards are still trying to outdress "normies"

>>10879962
Not at all what he said

I haven't noticed it out in the ol' real world, but I wondered if the sharp decline in men's fashion blogs was indicative of a sharp decline in "normie" interest. My guess is that "dressing well" was in fact a fad, but I doubt I'll be totally convinced until Put This On dies.

like others have said, I think people have just found out what they want to wear and have left the fashion boards. They've got everything they need now so why keep coming back

>>10879108
yeah like everyone else has said. Once I found something I like. I stick with it, unless I find something that catches my eye at a thrift store or online. I'll slowly start changing. but I'm no longer interested in just copping shit to keep up with trends
fuck that shit.

>>10879108
What would you rather - men not caring about how they dress, yet dressing different. Or women caring about dressing the same as other women? 2016 blows.

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>>10880524
Pic related, womens normiewear 2016

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>>10880533
Take two!

>>10879108
The men who tried to take an active interest in how they dress, clumsy though their efforts may have been, were mocked by the new "ironic" culture for being euphoric fedoras. As a result, they gave up trying, because it's less stigmatic to just sport a tee and jeans in your 20s, than to be called "dadcore" or "fedoric" by people who don't want to make the effort.

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>>10880535
Take three/?

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>>10880544
And again!

Attention spans just shortened from discussion forums to gratuitous instagram posts.

>>10880551
>>10880544
>>10880535
>>10880533
Women really aren't people. They are closer to animals than we like to think.

>>10880560
This. There are a few free thinking women out there, but I'm pretty sure they're cut down and slaughtered by other women at some point in their lives.

>>10880533
These are all middle aged women right? And all American?
Why do American women love their shitty brown boots so much?

>>10880573
There's at least one brit in there. Normie Americans don't wear Barbour, male or female.

>>10879108
Yep. Total fad.

I know a handful of guys who got all weirdly style-obsessed for about a year or two around the same period. I suspect it was because they thought it would get them laid. They mostly ended up just buying lots of cheap-ass suiting from Belk and places like that. It didn't work, they eventually quit.

The trend seems to still have had some effect, at least at the high school level. When I started getting into fashion I was a sophomore in HS, now as a senior I think the average person, even the underclassmen, dress better. I live in an upper middle class white area, so almost everyone goes for a prep style, which though it can often look tryhard or gaudy if poorly executed, (which it often is) still looks better than the standard of a few years, which seemed to be basketball shorts, light wash untapered jeans, and hoodies

Maybe it's just my area because kids have enough money to spend on relatively nice clothes, but I think there has been a noticeable change.

>>10880560

yea your mom was a dumb cunt i bet

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>>10879108
people started dressing too well so they invented goth ninja and techwear and spammed it

everyone dresses like internet wiggers now

where else is good on the internet, sieg?

>>10879108
I don't know about the US but everyone I know is already dressing very well. I think back when the average person didn't have a strong fashion sense, they tended to 'research' the topic online. That time is gone

>>10880560
Wacky

>>10880539
mediocrity shall be enforced.

>>10880533
>>10880535
>>10880544
>>10880551
What is the female meme look during the summer?

>>10879129
I went this far, nice skinny jeans and bought the classy aviators and brown and black shoes.

The major problem was actually trying to cop all the stuff /fa/ would talk about and its where all the frustration spurred from. So I got my basics and decided to try being /fa/.

Went to Goodwill, saw very little there.
Went to Buffalo Exchange, biggest joke ever, hipsters get up early at 6am to find pieces to cop of course a busy medical student like me will never make it.
Tried Nordstrom rack and while I did find a couple cute tight shirts it wasn't the best.
Go to H&M and Banana Republic and didn't really understand it.
Can't afford 5000 dollar shoes.
Once it got to EBAY I just said "this hard work is just getting retarded I am just going to wear jeans and coats and name brand aviators until i go dadcore or wear smocks".

/fa/ is a amazing thought until you realize the reality and high cost of what it means to be fashion conscious then you realize how fucking hard it is to be avant garde and give up.

As for women I actually don't understand that herd mentality because as hard as it was seeing decent male clothes it seemed pretty easy to have that Zooey Deschanel look, no reason to wear brown boots and yoga pants/jeans like everyone else. Didn't get it.

>>10880560
underrated post

>>10880560
Does anyone have the "women are a meme" screenshot?
I think it's from /mu/

huh interesting

>>10879108
Yeah, in my school females are slutty or look like they given up, while males gave up except the Asians, they're sudo into fashion. Before they were okay.

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>>10879108
Honestly Sieg #dadcore needed to die. Dads don't shape the future also Yohji > anything dadcore and you know this well.

The thing is that fashion is no longer for "MEN" it's for "boys" now. For us. Let dadcore die and be forgotten, the death of dadcore killed Chad thus making a better world for everyone else.

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>>10881307
>Implying Gothninja / Techwear / Cyberpunk in general =/= Wigger

It's just another dark urban style nothing wigger about it. Actually it looks avant garde, futuristic, comfy and casual.

>>10886571
it looks dumb to anybody who doesnt go here and half the people that do t.b.h.

>>10886585
Neat.

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>>10886554
autism: the post

>>10886571
it looks the opposite of casual, if you're decked out in goof ninja, you're obviously trying very hard.

>>10886588
ok family just my 2 cents

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>>10886585
In your opinion it looks dumb, for me it looks very clean and futuristic. I have got lots of compliments from girls my age (22 years olds). Besides you never dress for girls, don't dress up to get pussy since that's not the way to do it.

If that's what really matters to you don't focus on fashion focus on your face and attitude.

Just like: >>10880621
Patrick said, the problem is that the people who did #menswear-core (for the sake of cores) did it with the "I'm going to get laid!" mentality, that's the wrong mentality to hold into fashion with, that's why the #menswear-ers are dying and are pretty much a thing of the past. They aren't in the fashion scene anymore simply because they didn't deserve it, they were just a passing trend, not a look that transcended to a style and stuck.

like any other fashion trend op. dressing "nicely" was just the popular thing to do at the time.

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>>10883484
>google

>>10879108
>in the summer of 2010, normal everyday men in their 20's were really into #menswear

Which was honestly ridiculous because they were still too young and baby faced to pull the look off. I say this because I was one of those idiots.

The only useful thing my past self learned from that was how to dress for job interviews. Thats it.

I regret not being more into alternative styles back then because I bought a lot of un-comfy clothing that can't be used for anything else than for job interviews. I'm glad I dropped my love for prep and #menswear in general since I'm still young, my hairline isn't receding and I finally became 100% sexually secure of myself.

>>10886571
it looks objectively shit

>>10886732
No it doesn't. It looks pretty.

>>10879108
cuz their nigger idols like kan ye were into #menswear in 09

majority of society are brain dead trend hoppers

>>10886663
>100% sexually secure of myself
I don't know what this means...

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>>10886829
found the fedorable autist

>>10887093
>implying I care about menswear

lol nice projection nigger lover

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>>10887124
dude what
you must have a few extra chromosomes to arrive at a conclusion like that

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>>10879108
I've seen no such thing, because no one gives a flying fuck here. They were dusty as shit 5 years ago, and they're still dusty now.
> tfw no /fa/riends in st louis
> truly missouri is a shit hole
the shoe of my people

>>10887158
at least you can go to NFL games with them

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>>10880560
>mfw I am unsure if my girlfriend possesses sentience

>>10879983
spoken like a true fifteen year old

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how to keep improving on being /fa/, guys?

>>10886829
>>10886829
this

Fashion depends on your lifestile
I doubt that the majority of this board will dress the same when they are starting to get a real job. most of the people here are kids, no offense,
Menswear still looks good, especially if you have the lifestyle to wear it. Usually around 30.

>>10888526
forgot one thing: if you roll up your pants when its 0 degrees outside to show bare ankle, you are not an exeptional good dresser, you are just a moron.

>>10888526
>doubt that the majority of this board will dress the same when they are starting to get a real job
Never understood this
Why would I change everything from my wardrobe because I have to dress certain way to a job? Every job I've had so fa, I have worn either something practical for it or something required for it but none of it has changed the way I dress.
Your style of course evolves and changes constantly but people keep throwing "job" as some magic hour where you go full menswear and never look back. And that is not even taking the fact that "real job" can mean fucking anything to account.

>>10888535
Because you are not a kid anymore, and usually your social circle are grown ups as well. I didn't say you magically change. But you are a product of your environment. if your friends grow up, make more money and dress more like adults you will maybe feel a little bit out of place and change your direction in fashion towards more mature stuff. you will still experiment and wear outfits that stand out, but without looking like a teenager.

>>10888557
Why do you assume people "dress like teenagers" or that their social circles are full of menswear adults? You are making so many fucking assumptions here, I get what you are saying but the generalization that your dressing changes when you get a 'real job' is the most retarded shit I keep hearing all the time.

>>10886615
>"I'm going to get laid!" mentality
That's 90 percent of /fa/. Honestly, the only reason men's fashion is dying off is because #menswear fell out of fashion, so a few people jumped to other aesthetics and many more gave it all up. Men giving a shit about clothing was basically a meme.

>>10888581
It's simpler than the other anon is making it. 99.9 percent of people get boring about a year after graduating from college. Most people on /fa/ will give up fashion then and just wear whatever normies do.

>>10888526
I have worked on a lot of jobs I still dress casually avant garde or rock chic on weekends.

>>10879938
D R K
S H D W

Honestly, it depends a lot on where you live. All of my friends are in their mid 20's, have good jobs and are reasonably well dressed. Here - in Milan - dressing well is not an option, it is rather a necessity. The average person here has reasonably priced clothes and knows how to match colors, patterns etc. properly. Even older people, dress well, most of the old men here wear nice coats and suits.

Milan, being a very international city, has its fashion ruined by Americans, Londoners, Filipinos, South Koreans and the Japanese. Those come here and wear their fucking techwear, streetstyle ugly looking clothes. Those people's interests in fashion fade away quickly. No sane person would hire a person who wears Rick Owens when they're not working. At least not here. Therefore, naturally they'll stop being into "fashion", while the Milanese maintain their classicist style.

Clothes never got me pussy desu

>>10889573
that's because women can't appreciate fashion

Everyone is a hypebeast around me these days. Dadcore is dead

>>10889464
>Milan, being a very international city, has its fashion ruined by Americans, Londoners, Filipinos, South Koreans and the Japanese.
Multiculturalism not even once

>>10880560
>men don't also dress like robots

>>10886663
>too young and baby faced
Just let this meme die

i fell for menswear hard. dark days.

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>>10880560
>muh echo chamber of angry virgins

lmao leave your bedroom once in a while

>>10888526
>mfw I wear comfy scrubs to work and I don't have to spend money on uncomfortable dress clothes that I hate wearing

Anyway if you're at a job where the uniform is dress clothes, it's usually a useless job micromanaging people or kissing ass so I wouldn't be proud of that

>>10889770
You can fuck women and appreciate the few genuinely intelligent ladies out there without compromising on the fact that most women really are social media drones good for maybe hairdressing and being nurses, but that's as far as their usefulness towards society goes.

IMO, intelligence is a must for a long term relationship. A relationship based on just fuckability dies out in a year or two. There are really few genuinely smart women out there. The upside is that there is not that much competition. Many men in fact actively avoid them. Those women are much more frequently single than the 'instagram whores'.

>>10890663
>implying you're not of normie intelligence

>>10880466
It could easily have been a collective realization that not every moron with a magazine could or should write a fashion blog.

>>10891265
that's not really true because every dumb bitch out there has a tumblr blog still

>>10879108
lrn2trends

Back then, everyone was a hipster, thus internet-savvy, thus they knew /fa/, reddit, etc.

Nowadays, people are yuccies, so they have other problems than conforming to the autistic expectations of internet virgins.

Not to mention that many trends from the hipster era, like beards and skinny jeans, objectively sucked.

>>10879108
You say that like it's a bad thing. Let the normies do their normie shit and we can continue to look dope.

>>10890663
I agree and doff my hat to you, m'good sir
*tips fedora*

>>10879945
5'7" 210

>>10880555
This. Forums are dying but instagram has blown up and normies are more trend driven than ever.
Seig is just out of touch and delusional (as usual).

>>10890247
Says the 'barista'.

:^)

>>10892290
instagram is full of children

they're all just into comfy/minimalist streetwear instead of business casual, menswear, or workwear now.

>>10880539
partially this, and partially that the very normie very mainstream status qup target tier default is now mostly black, grey, navy, and olive basics in a relaxed, street style. Essentially m-muh raw denims normies from 2011 are cuckcore, slp cucks, or kanyefags now

>>10891265
This is a fair point, but many of the better ones died too.

>>10886571
>getting defensive about the 2015/16 equivalent of #menswear

>>10892324
kek

>>10890247
Obviously you've only tried cheap, made-in-Bangladesh suits, working class hero there.

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I don't get it. Is menswear dead?

Seems like it's still going on as strong as ever.

cuz MUH ASAP ROCKY

>>10889752
Me too. Holy shit for my age...That looked awkward as fuck. "classicist", dandy, "high class", ivy league fashion really is for older people.

>>10892324
>barista
>wearing scrubs
Wow nice reading comprehension boss :^)

>>10892354
so is /fa/, 99% of the user base is 16-20 (aka literally children)

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>>10879108
there is no decline. its actually vice versa. while you fags try to dress "sharp", we actually dress good, and pull off the "effortlessly sharp" look. i can wear a pair of khakis under a crew neck sweater, and i would look better than any of you. because i invest on my body, instead of retarded clothing pieces.

simple example; if you wear more than 4 layers you are a fashion disaster. and 4 layer is the extreme case; 3 piece suit and an overcoat.

>>10892709
this is actually a good look, except he has to be over 30 and with no bracelet thing.

pic related; actual "sharp" dressing.

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>>10893462
here another example of dressing good. if you don't dress like this, and putting visible effort, you probably look like a clown. and if you think these guys don't look really good, you are disoriented.

want to look good in clothes? lift. you'll never look good if you are fat. never. and if you look like a spooky skeleton without clothes, you'll look like a twig with some clothes wrapped around. you need to lift and eat well.

if you happen to dress to impress, never come to /fa/. if you are a male, never wear super-skinny tighty pants(unless you are gay or whatever). never wear polo shirts if you are younger than 45. never wear turtlenecks. never ever wear black tops, black trousers and white sneakers. this is the ultimate "i am dumb, yet i think i'm exceptionally intelligent and special" look. NEVER wear tees with prints. never wear anything with prints actually. NEVER wear button-up shirts unbuttoned. you will look like a manchild. if you are a man, don't experiment too much with colours, especially on your trousers. even if you are gay.


i really hope some of you will see what i'm trying to say. i hope you find the right way.

>>10893507
He dresses like my dad. He looks bad.

I'm glad I realize this and I'm in your opinion "disoriented". Because those are actually the clothes my dad wears.

Now you expect a 22 years old to wear the same clothing? Pitiful.

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>>10893507
I really hate those coloured pants.

Other pic jacket is too formal.

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>>10893507
Also there's nothing wrong with turtlenecks, it's just that people don't know how to wear them so you get all the artsy faggots wearing nothing but a tight, black turtleneck on top.

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>>10893770
I'm telling you, it's the trousers.

I don't understand how they're so common with people who like to try and dress a bit nicer. They're so disgusting.

sieg how's your weight loss going

>>10893462

This is what happens when /fa/ gets overrun by boring white racists. You get boring white racist fashion advice that makes no fucking sense and has no connection to "fashion" whatsoever.

This look is a relic from the past. It doesn't convey wealth, or culture, or manners, or sophistication. It simply looks boring. Especially if you're young. Boring. Typical. Mindless. Uncreative. Uncool.

But whatever. Keep lifting (which is a waste of consuming and burning energy which ages you quicker, congrats) and keep wearing your dad's outfits.

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>>10893904
back to tumblr sempai :^)

>>10893462
>Jeans with blazer
Nice try, faggot.

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>>10893825
I really like cashmere rollnecks, but it's kind of hard to find them with a slim fit.

This one costs $940 on Mr Porter. If there were options for like $300-$400 I'd definitely buy one.

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>>10893770
>he looks bad

he really doesn't, i mean i like fashion forward stuff as much as the next guy but by the time im 25 im not going to be wearing this stuff anymore, it looks silly on actual adults

guy in that pic would have like 95% of girls drooling over that fit and from a pure aesthetic standpoint I don't see anything to critique, except the watch straps contrast with the pants i fuckn hate tan with black/dark brown

>>10893462
Where do I get casual suit jackets like this?

Other people have more interesting hobbies/more important things to think about than looking like a /fa/ggot.

Big shock.

>>10880560
>>10880571
>>10883244

lol

>>10894190
>would have like 95% of girls drooling over that fit
lmao what the fuck

95% of 50+ year old women, maybe

>>10893967
He is right you know. You are way too submissive to the rules and standards your parents put for you.

Yet you're still not what YOU would want to be and will never be, you probably don't even know what you want to be. You just adopted the standards of the people around you, never made your own.

Just like the üntermensch. In the original Nietzschean meaning of the word.

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>>10894190
Dad please I'm 22 I hang out with girls my age and lower.

They all like One Direction and Harry Styles wears Saint Laurent Paris. So fuck you, you don't know shit about fashion. You're a long dead trend, it's sad you can't accept it.

>>10893462
>jeans with blazer
PLEASE

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>>10894319
>pedophiles dress like manchildren
good to know

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>>10894303
dude I watch futanari, unironically listen to skrillex, and dress like a manchild, I don't think I'm living up to anyone's standards here by being the autist that I am, and I still don't think that his attack on dadcore is valid

>>10894341
Successful ones dress like 1D.

Unsuccessful ones dress in #menswear trench coats and fedoras. As far as I know.

>>10894353
There is no point attacking dadcore because it's already dead as fuck on anyone under 30.

And everyone who still dresses dadcore under 30 is a shame and it's probably one of the few uncomfortable faggots still doing it. DON'T Invest. On. That. Shit. You're going to use it for job interviews and thats it, get good looking comfy casual clothes instead.

>>10894384
I kind of like dadcore, maybe not the weirdly old-fashioned fedoracore variant, but sometimes I just like more classic/normal styles rather than streetwear or strange-looking tumblrcore

>>10894363
>22
>can only afford midmarket trash
>can only get 14 year olds who still listen to 1d
>successful

lmfao

>>10893904
Uh...except most of the boring white racists are also Rick fans here.

so true

>>10894384
Look, disliking dadcore, #menswear, or whatever is fine, but there's a reason wool trousers got picked up by the street wear crowd: they're fucking comfy. Say what you will about the aesthetic of a suit, but a well tailored one is comfortable.

>>10894488
think what he meant is successful at being a pedophile

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>>10894151
Cashmere is nice, but then I'd want a chunky one. I prefer merino wool for rollnecks as I think they go better with suits/jackets.

In that price-range I'd check out Berg&Berg, they usually have cashmere sweaters during the colder season from Johnston of Elgin. Really worth having a look at, especially during their sales.

Drumohr is something else that you can find in that range at Yoox. Have two of their sweaters from there, one in merino, other a merino/cashmere blend. Waiting for a dark grey round neck in cashmere to arrive, got it for just 160€ during their sale.

>>10894320
If you wear a less formal blazer it's fine. Like flannels, cashmere, cotton, tweed, certain wools (no supers) etc. are good, but people usually make the mistake of wearing a formal blazer (like a black pinstripe...) with light blue jeans (to "dress it down"), which looks stupid.

>>10894384
Flannels are extremely comfortable, and you just haven't tried a well fitting suit with high armholes and soft shoulders because security tends to pick you up as you approach any nicer store.

:^)

If you're 25+ or have a decent job, shouldn't this be the norm?

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>>10887162
SICK BURNS ON A NEW FUCKING LEVEL BRO THAT WAS FUCKING SAVAGE

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>>10893904
>This is what happens when /fa/ gets overrun by boring white racists.

>>10895506
You fucking faggot lol

>>10880560
this guy gets it, all women are sluts one way or another

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>>10898026
A U T I S M

>>10894535
yeah i just wanna say i really like incorporating traditional pieces into streetwear fits. wool and suit trousers are comfy as fuck & with a cuff they fall right before your shoes. with a hoodie or a bomber it's pretty good desu senpai

>>10898034
stop wearing your ugly sneakers

>>10890663
You seem really intelligent.

>>10899660
what's an ugly sneaker to you

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post fly shit that goofnigger kids can't afford

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I still do the #menswear thing, I guess. I'm a writer, so I don't NEED to wear a jacket and tie every day, so paradoxically I love to wear it. It suits me a lot better nowadays, too, since I'm in my late 20s.

But I still scour eBay for discount Isaia.

op is right

>>10889770
When will you people come up with proper arguments instead of always assuming that a person who dislikes women couldnt possibly have had sex before? I was in almost a dozen 'relationships' and I can honestly say that I despise women and the way they act. I mean, I dislike most people but women are way worse than males could ever be.

However, are women inferior? Thats up for debate. From a physical standpoint they sure as hell are. They also seems to be inferior from an intellectual standpoint. There is plenty of evidence that supports the claim that women are generally inferior to males. That doesnt mean, that there cant be exceptional specimen who outshine the vast majority of males in various fields. They are exceptions though, not the rule.

So if we establish that males are physically (sports, Olympic records, way the male body creates muscle mass, the fact that we can piss while standing) and intellectually superior (positions in companies, history, chess ELO rating, scientific fields, philosophy, any form of art etc.) then what is left for women? Emotional superiority? After all they are caring, warm individuals. So caring, that they would sacrifice their own people and let emotions overrule pragmatism, borders and laws. So they arent even superior from an emotional standpoint because apparently they are unable to fucking control them.

>>10902895
that's the argument that pisses off most feminists......if women are the "superior" species in their minds then why do they feel the need to segregate competition?

men have an unfair genetic advantage over women....oh okay...but that has nothing to do with men being more suited at competition women are still automatically "better?"

>>10902909
lose weight, fat fuck

>>10902895
I love women, I think they're amazing, but they're often the most illogical, backwards thinking people ever. Even my own girlfriend, who is doing very well scholastically has nearly no logic and possesses the most rampant emotions I've ever seen.

I often feel as if I am better on my own. Less distracted, more money, but I'll sometimes still long for the feeling of having a significant other.

>>10893904

Boring. Typical. Mindless. Uncreative. Uncool.

You're delusional if you think full-rick/all-black outfits are more creative than menswear