My $400 citizen watch broke down on me, and local retailer tells me it's going to cost more to fix it than to buy a new watch. any suggestions for a versatile <$400 watch?
also just general watch thread
Just got a GMT-Master II from my dad. It's from the late 90's and the papers/box are in a different country.
What is the first thing I should do? He hasn't serviced it since he got it, and it was an everday watch of his for a couple of years until he got a Seamaster. It's in awesome condition still.
Could you define a truly versatile watch, then?
Personally I'm wearing steinhart ocean one on a daily basis and cant imagine I would need any other watch - matches me, my both work and personal outfits, lifestyle and it's robust, solid and it only costed my a little over £300 including shipping - if that's not versatile then i don't know what is. If you're looking for a maximum amount of features then go get one of them casio wrist calculators.
Forgot to post pic, did I fuck up on this meme watch or cop a affordable reliable piece?
About to buy this one. Can anybody tell me the differences between this one and the 21 ? Any experiences?
meme watch. all of these minimalist "luxury" watchs cost like $10 to make but marketed so it feels like you got a good deal spending $100 - 500 for it vs a 5k rolex/real watch even though they don't compare at all.
if you're gonna cop a piece like this or any of those other minimalist watches you might as well go on aliexpress. you will literally get the same watch for $10.
You fucked up.
Those watches cost 15 bucks on Aliexpress
They are the exact same shit
copped this a few months ago
fit and finish is top tier for its price range
loving it so far
Hey im looking to buy a Seiko watch with the following movement (7T12)
How do can I tell whether this is a decent quality movement as far as quartz watches go?
Gonna post my two latest cops for my Russian collection.
This is a Soviet Raketa with 24h movement and world time rotating bezel.
And this is a Slava with day-date complication, also from the Soviet era.
Sort of in the market for a more casual watch. Maybe an omega.
Invicta is garbage. Any brand that pretends it's selling stuff for 90 pct off should be raising red flags.
I've always wanted one of these omega chronostops, they're expensive and probably hard to find in good condition though.
Been offered a good deal on a JLC Master Control by a colleague, thinking of taking it.
I like JLC as you don't see many around, and the master control looks kinda like a Calatrava, which is probably my ideal dress watch. Also can't have anything larger than a 37mm as I have babby wrists.
I really don't get the appeal. You can buy a 2 benjamin China watch and probably get 90% of the functionality and design. At least with their tourbilons and moonphases you have something mechanically unique.
So I need an automatic dive watch with a timing bezel. Nothing too large so I'd say 41mm is max size. Would like to avoid SKX007, Orient and the Sub ripoffs if I can. What can you get for $300?
2300€, in good condition, box and all.
Yeah, but you can't sell the China watch for ~3000€ when you get bored, or if you ever need some extra cash. It's good to have a little something as a security, in case things start to go south.
I'm not arguing in favor of fake watches but calling a watch an investment and expecting to sell it for even close to what you paid for it is absolutely fucking retarded. There are actual investments you could make instead, and if you're worried about having to pawn off your watches later maybe you shouldn't be spending thousands of dollars on a useless piece of jewelry to begin with.
If you don't even understand the difference between an investment and a security, why am I 'arguing' with you?
The watch is currently being sold for ~3000€ on Chrono24, in good condition. Retail price was ~4500-5000€ last time I checked. I don't think it's going to drop that much further in price, unless it gets really worn. And I'm very much aware that it won't gain value either, as one would expect if they'd view it as an investment.
Always fun getting financial advise from random people on 4chan.
>end up putting it in a safe so it doesn't devalue with wear
>don't get to enjoy it
>still have to sell it for 50-90% of the original cost because of pawn shops and store resellers
>someone who apparently owns a Patek has to make his own posts on an autist forum to sell and ship it.
that's just sad and a sure sign of some poser who stretched his credit card. maybe that's why you're obsessed about "investment". also lol how would you know what I can afford? I have a couple four digit watches myself. they're beautiful, but I know they aren't good investments.
I tried on this mondain the other day, I really like design but my wrists are very thin.
This is a 35mm model, do you a smaller one would look better?
yea idk omega has been on the down lately, but problem is i have tiny wrists and all the rolexes i've tried on feel too big. also not a huge fan of the dive style desu, doesn't really work with how i dress a good portion of the time. been trying to figure out what a good way to go for a not super dress watch but haven't found a good solution yet
might just end up with a rolex anyways cause whatever :|
Some of them are quite nice, similar to this for example http://www.grand-seiko.com/collection/detail.php?pid=SBGA003
But I'm generally not a big fan of the date indicator on the Grand Seikos.
Got this from my asshole dad for getting into uni. Don't know...im 22 and I dont think it works with my fits. I wish I had gotten an hublot big bang instead. What do you guys think?
Picked up this Tag Heuer Aquaracer for a daily wearer. What do you think? This is the fort watch I've ever owned that has a pure white dial
just buy an apple watch
it will never break down on you because you have to buy a new one every year since the previous model gets a forced update to make sure the planned obsolescence scheme pans out
> more jewels = more accurate and more expensive
Maybe in like 1930. Synthetic jewels don't cost much and any modern movement should have more than enough jewels on all the bearings that require them. Actually the Seagull 1963s all have 21 jewels as far as I know. The original watch made for the air force in the 60s had 19 jewels but when Seagull updated the movement to re-release the modern version they upgraded it to have 21 jewels. For some reason they decided to print 19 anyway on some of the watches to be more true to the original and on other watches they print 21 jewels which is the actual number. There's also another variant of that movement Seagull makes with 23 jewels.
You can get em' for $13 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/UK-Brand-Watches-No-Name-MVMT-Minimal-Design-Face-Japan-Movement-Leather-Strap/32441669842.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.31.zaHuDj&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_4_10014_10001_10002_10005_10006_10003_10004_62,searchweb201560_5,searchweb1451318400_6151,searchweb1451318411_6449&btsid=caa6c3c5-18d6-4546-9c1c-7b8948d6b06e
that shade and lustre of gold does not go well with light skin tones at all
silver is almost always the right choice unless you're getting an omega constellation or you're wealthy enough to get a platinum watch
Like this kind of constellation
no way son, this kind
You mean the pie-pan dial or the angled lugs? I like both of those things a lot and they're really distinctive Constellation features, but yeah the one I have is more rounded all over. Also of course mine was pretty clearly used a whole lot but I guess what it lacks in cosmetic condition it makes up for in sentimental value.
New aliexpress cop. I kinda like it. Feels sturdier than the absolute trash £3 watches they sell.
Sinn 104. I want to get this watch sometime in the unforeseeable future.
Anyone know what the Amphibia that was actually military-issued looked like?
next dress watch? if I can get in stainless steel and not rose gold.
Some of the Burberry watches are nice, or a Victorianox night vision watch.
Pic related, mine's never failed me
Nice casios my man. Pic related in silver is mine.
w2c the far right?
One is a relic that I wear when I'm not working, the knock off is when I'm at work. 100 mechanical so no batteries ever as long as I keep moving, * years and counting
I was looking at pictures of this the other day from different angles. It's perfect. My wrists are ridiculously small though, it might just look clunky.
Pic on wrist?
almost perfect, ruined by the offset day window desu
but yeah get it
>>10881007 if you man up and get it, which you 100% fucking should
>>10887493 With new strap, also loosen it ffs
Only watches ITT worth having, not counting OP's citizen and the chink shit.
If he hasnt serviced it and wore it everyday, get it serviced. Then wear the shit out of it.
Divers are probably one of the most versatile, you can pull off a pilots watch in a few different ways too. Maybe even a dress watch with a metal band like a SARB033
kek, You fucked up bro, sell it for as much as you can and buy the aliexpress duplicate. Get a chink DW knockoff if you want to impress your friends
You dont need a watch to tell the time anymore, almost every other device does that for us. People either have $10 pretty looking chink watches because they like them as accessories, or they fork out big money for a piece of precision engineering and see the beauty in that. It's more about an appreciation of the build than anything for most people.
Dont mind that for a USSR piece, nice cop bro
Steinhart ocean-one if you dont call that a "sub ripoff", maybe some of their other stuff too. I hear Citizen does decent divers watches. I have the Orient Ray for a daily beater and its probably the best around its price point
I'd go smaller for that style, yes. How fucking small are your wrists?
I wouldnt regard watches respected for their engineering as in the same market as watches normies buy for case/strap design appeal
If the white face suits you then its a really decent score. Looks pretty sturdy, I like it.
I'll never understand the appeal of this style
Just save for it and don't waste your money on any watch that isn't your grail.
I dig the design, dont know much about the brand though. What movement does it use?
Don't like bracelet but rest is dope. Reminds me of that James bond/metal gear Seiko w2c?
Thanks. I almost bought that one
The jg is a citizen, its about twice that price too
>Pic on wrist?
the watch is actually fairly small, so I dont think it looks that clunky. Obviously that depends on just how skinny your wrists are. Should be fine though
Not nearly enough gook-watch in this thread.
I thought about buying one but I waited too long, too bad it's a limited edition. Does it look and feel nice in person? I saw that it's made in china shit which is disappointing for being a special edition and not all that cheap.
Seems like Amazon has a few for like $330 right now if you really want one. The caseback says "movement Japan cased in China" which is odd, I don't think I've seen a Seiko made in China before or at least not any admitting to it, so I hope it's not a sign that it's poorly made.
I have $150 to spend on a watch because niggers stole my previous watch. Looking for analog, nice looking, not a sundial on my wrist, and perhaps something darker in appearance but that isn't necessary. I'm watch illiterate so please help
You left it because you didn't love it, and then jamal took it and u r mad. Well guess what I'm him and I wear it whenever I fuck your mom and I definitely tell her what time it is
Just picked this up last week. I wanted something in blue. Usually I'm not a fan of MK since they are bulky and I hate the hype but it looks good IMO.
Ignore the bloody pants just got in a motorcycle crash this morning. Off to the mall in just a bit for new ones.
>it's ok but you still look really stupid buying what looks exactly like a rolex without the rolex name
If you're in the $300 range, you're not going to get a real Rolex.
It's better to have a nice homage than a fake.
Posted this in one of the earlier threads, I do now understand that Citizen dont make particualry good watches but are alright for the price range.
What do you guys think of this style wise? I find myself more attracted to watches which arent as chunky or full of a large variety of dials and sub faces.
>23, just got a job as a digital customer service guy
>mom offers a pretty dinged-up rolex for getting my BA in music appreciation, sure thanks
>mfw I realize it's a Submariner
Am I too young to make this my 'everyday'? My supervisor wears a Casio, I feel like there's a good chance this wouldn't be smart in the workplace.
I didn't even get a box or certificates or anything. The scratches are pretty deep, a few short ones on the bezel and some long ones on the bracelet. Every link shows wear, I'm guessing it's been worn for at least 5 years but the lumination is completely out, so it must be older than 15.
If people ask if it's real, I'm thinking of just saying 'no'.
420 NZD for this. What quality should I be expecting if i cop this?
A decent watch don't has to cost thousands and it also wont break by itself. You can inherit it over to Generations. It is a masterpiece of Engineering, a prestige and fashion Object with a practical function. It is a understatement.
The imeme is a overpriced bullshit toy.
Impractical and trying to solve Problems no one has while looking like a cheap toy out of a gumball machine.
Plebs buy it because of Marketing.
It probably wont even last 3 years before something breaks or it gets obsolet. And also lose all it's value.
Stay pleb and enjoy your overpriced cringe toy.
Hublot, skagen, Rolex, ulysse. Also, wearing a grand seiko
don't be seiko invented the quartz qatch (and the kinetic and spring drive) but they sure as hell didn't do it best
>seiko invented the quartz qatch (and the kinetic and spring drive) but they sure as hell didn't do it best
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
Nah, it's a high-quality fake. (https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=720&q=rado&oq=rado&gs_l=img.3..0l10.575.1134.0.1322.214.171.124.0.0.0.186.536.1j3.4.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..2.4.532.fgmJNNYP3Oo#tbm=isch&q=rado+ceramic)
Bought it in Beijing for about 20 USD.
>Buying a fake of a watch that's not even Swiss enough to be legally called "Swiss Made".
Made my fucking day anon.
Every man and their dog is part of the Swatch group.
Of course I have heard of it.
The question is, have you heard of the SWISS MADE trademark?
It can only legally be applied to watches that are more than 50% Swiss.
Look at the face of the watch, notice how it doesn't say "SWISS MADE"; it says "SWISS 3317".
The movement is a $50 (at best) generic Swiss Ronda/ETA Quartz - the watch probably isn't even cased in Switzerland.
You got cucked hard.
>owning a more expensive Swatch with some random brand name they happen to now own the rights to is worth bragging about
I hope you know that Rado and Tissot and Hamilton and Omega and Longines and whatever other brand all died in the 70s and 80s and anything you buy now with that name on it is shit.
Eyyyy Sinnbro. Nice 556i (if I'm not mistaken).
It's a fake. As such, don't care too much about "Swiss Made," but interesting; can you explain what the "Swiss" designation (like Swatches say "Swiss" on the dial) means?
Why so down on modern Rados? I like that they use ceramic; makes them look different.
I like Rado because they made the clock system for the HK subway, which is awesome.
>All fashion watch brands are unfashionable and overpriced.
lol this is an outdated meme. I can see Fossil, Michael Kors and Armani putting out better stuff than some watchmaking houses in the under $500 budget. Most mall brands are still shit though.
"SWISS MADE" as a legal trademark was a measure adopted by Switzerland to ensure that "Swiss" watches were at least majority made in Switzerland (Prior to the 1968 ruling and 1971 codifying, there were hundreds of "Swiss" brands that had a single Swiss part in them or merely passed through Switzerland.
A "SWISS MADE" item must be at least 50% Swiss in origin, and the most important part must be made in Switzerland.
In the case of a watch, this means that at least 50% of the value of the watch must originate in Switzerland and the movement must be Swiss.
Most companies barely scrape by with their designs (cases made in China and finished in Switzerland etc, Movements produced in China and assembled in Switzerland), but there are a few high end who do manage a near 100% Swiss supply chain (Rolex, PP, etc.), whilst on the other end of the spectrum, there are watches that can't even meet the bare standard and mark themselves as something similar (ie. "SWISS" then model number, in the case of RADO).
>I can see Fossil, Michael Kors and Armani putting out better stuff than some watchmaking houses in the under $500 budget.
I have not once seen a desirable watch from any of these brands, sure, they make some automatic watches, but that doesn't make the designs any more respectable than a DIESEL or Barbie play watch.
MK has some truly horrific designs.
My sister in law has this watch and wears it everywhere - I struggle not to laugh at her.
Armani Mecanico has some nice ones
Fossil cases and dials are miles prettier than anything in the price range
MK Jetmaster and auto lines
well of course their women's line is going to be shit anon. even seiko and citizens are just stiletto dogshit.
Yeah, but the "Swiss" designation is regulated too. As far as I can tell from here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Made) and here (https://www.admin.ch/cp/f/1995Mar30.firstname.lastname@example.org), it means the same thing as "Swiss Made.
It honest to god, looks like a chink rip off of the ugliest Breitling I have ever seen.
Gaudy chink shit, again.
>Fossil in picture.
That's a nice design, but not an original one.
Whilst it'd be fine for $200-300, there are a lot of much nicer watches in this price range.
Plus, Fossil cases are probably the worst finished I've seen in a long time.
>Yeah, but the "Swiss" designation is regulated too. As far as I can tell from here
Yes and no; it's easy to skirt by not using "SWISS MADE" and it's never enforced.
Using "SWISS" as a prefix to an object is restricted (ie. "Swiss Watch", "Swiss Chocolate", "Swiss Clothing"), but there is no restriction on what you can use it in.
The movement inside (I assume a customized Ronda/ETA that is marked as a "Rado 3317 movement") is likely what is being marked as Swiss.
If a company can use SWISS MADE, they will (exceptions generally being reissues of older watches, that were marked as "SWISS" before "SWISS MADE" was restricted..
>just saying for $200 bucks they're plenty attractive compared to some 70s looking shit from "legit" watch companies
And for $200, you can get a much nicer Japanese or Microbrand.
eh at least their designs aren't so dated
>And for $200, you can get a much nicer Japanese or Microbrand.
like what? an SKX007 or seiko 5? they're even more goofier lol
he also has a potato camera for someone who can afford a Rolex and Hublot
>like what? an SKX007 or seiko 5? they're even more goofier lol
>Choosing the two meme watches.
You really don't know anything about the brand, do you?
$300 gets you into the SARB/SARG territory.
If you prefer goofy shit like that Armani, you can get a Regulator from Perpetual for $170 (next batch is available in April).
Gotcha. 70s versions of the Jubile (this model) were marked in the same way ("Swiss," then serial number), so who knows.
In Chinese fake watch stores, there are the watches you see displayed on the counter, which are 20 USD (although they'll charge you as much as you'll pay), and then there are the "nice watches," which you have to ask for and are high quality fakes that go for around 100 USD. I always wondered where those fakes came from; maybe they come from Chinese factories that make "Swiss" luxury watches.
Links for good minimal watches from Aliexpress? Thought about getting this Rodina, but fuck having 'china made' on the face. Also thought about getting the Orient Bambino, but after looking it is too busy, even though I love the domed glass.
those are their mid-range lines but I'll bite. the designs are pretty much seiko 5s without the 5. SARG is not too bad I guess maybe a bit confused if they're dressy or casual.
>passing over italian chink shit for unavailable plain chink shit
>>those are their mid-range lines but I'll bite. the designs are pretty much seiko 5s without the 5.
And a shit load more finishing.
SARB/SARGs are also very available to anyone with an internet connection.
return it. their spokesperson is a coalburner.
>But i personally see no sense in a smartwatch.
Its cool because everytime your phone does something you will see it on the watch so you dont have to take out your phone all the time
I also have a lot of data that I want to check often
Just got an old Rolex Submariner, so I'm thinking of getting a NATO strap before I make it my everyday, to dress it down. Only problem is, where should I get one?
Dollar stores don't seem appropriate, somehow. Canada has a shit dollar right now, so I'd prefer somewhere without a retarded shipping cost. Any help would be /g/.
no, but i got one for 2000
>I have not once seen a desirable watch from any of these brands
I would have agreed in the past, but Fossil has been putting out some decent designs recently. Pic related is my daily beater for work and grocery shopping. It is thin, fairly elegant, and versatile. For the $100 I paid a year ago, I have certainly gotten my moneys' worth. No complaints.
The dial looks alright but the hands are not a good fit for it and the level of finishing overall is obviously not very good and the crown is awful. I bet it's really big, too. It's fine I guess, it works, but it certainly doesn't look particularly good or anything.
>I bet it's really big
Nah. It's only 44mm.
The fit and finish is much nicer in person. These photos don't really do any justice. I just wanted to show that not all fossil's are complete garbage.
for a cheap watch, is this one good?
I don't think the numbers on the bezel look good imo. However something to think about is buying a Rolex or Omega that will actually hold it's value, you buy that the money you spend is basically flushed down the toilet.
>why spend $26 on this watch anon just spend $8000 instead it'll be more worth your money
>it's a better idea financially because your watch will hold its value perfectly except for the fact that it loses 30-50% of its value the second you purchase it and continues to lose value as you wear it and bang it up and it also requires ongoing maintenance costs unless you want the movement to deteriorate and further lose value
He could buy that watch and throw it away and buy a brand new one every time the battery runs out and he would still spend much less than a Submariner would cost him over that period and instead of "investing" his money in a luxury toy he could've actually invested that money to get some sort of return.
You can like luxury watches but you must be absolutely retarded if you think they're actually a smart use of your money.
Don't hold back.
Just copped this one yesterday. Reckon it looks pretty dope
>it's a better idea financially because your watch will hold its value perfectly except for the fact that it loses 30-50% of its value the second you purchase it
How ironic that you list the Rolex Submariner as an example, when the Submariner is literally one of the few watches that retains its value extremely well over time.
>rolex submariner lose 50% of its retail Value the moment it is purchased.
$7000 is likely enough to wear a new apple watche or the beautiful huaweiwei stainless case smart watch at every release for a lifetime.
Also note that an apple watch will never need servicing since they tend to be obsolete in a year. Meaning yearly services on that Rolex = new Apple watch price>>10895261
The current Rolex Submariner costs $8,550 with date option, $7,500 without.
Resale prices for this latest ceramic model (with date) range from $8,000 to $9,500, based on the patina development on the dials and hands.
If you want to spend your money staying on latest smartwatch editions, that's fine. But only the ignorant would deny Rolex's greatest strengths - timelessness, consistency of design.
If you were talking about the highest-end products from Omega, Breitling, or Cartier, I would agree with you. But saying that a Patek-Philippe, Rolex, or Jaeger-Lecoultre loses half its value out of the box? That's not even absurd - it's factually wrong, as anybody even remotely familiar with the watch industry would readily know.
>but the hands are not a good fit
I think so too. roman numerals are more classic than anything. so elegant black hands would be more neat.
it's so typical for Fossil/Diesel/Police shit to be all about butt ugly weird ass industrial aesthetics.
ETA movement with Chinese parts, why? Nomos makes everything but the balance themselves in the Tangente, and the balance too in all the newer models. Everything is made by them. There is zero justification for Stowa's prices, every part of their watch is outsourced besides the engraving.
What part of Stowa do you like better?
Looks like a fake of this model. Probably in the 20-40 USD range, depending on the quality of the movement.
Just consider this question: Would I expect this person to give me a 50,000 USD gift?
I bought this one years ago, does it look okay? I stopped liking it and simply didn't wear any watch anymore for some years.
What do you think about this one? As a product designer, I am a big fan of Naoto Fukasawa, designer of this watch. Does it look a bit too gimmicky/cheap for the pricepoint?
Also, should I cop black or silver version?
Where the fuck do I find Orient and Timex in London? I've went to three different watch shops and they only have shitty mall tier brands such as Calvin Klein watches or alternatively really gaudy shit paki kids will buy like Rolex