>What you have
>What you want to have
>And advice cheerfully offered
Right, now that the shilling is out of the way, questions:
>What will you be leaving behind for the next generation besides a greasy stain where you shrugged off this mortal coil?
>Dial colors: what is effay? What isn't?
>Do different metal casings suit different skin tones?
...and a final spic to fulfill the diversity quota
>this sappy stupid shit marketing really gets to me
Yeah it it effective.
Didn't you used to wear (or at least own) some kind of AP, sieg?
Casing - depends on your profession. Gold/diamonds if you're a C title, doctor, lawyer. Steel for everyone else.
I prefer a minimalist look. I'm close to picking up an IWC portugieser annual calendar in steel with the white dial.
w2c a simplistic leather watch for 150-300£? Preferably casual. Should go with preppy fits.
Currently thinking about copping an orient bambino, but I know nothing about watches so I could be making a huge mistake
Never realised how easy changing a watch battery is until this morning.
>Implying I would ever give up an extremely expensive watch to my fucking future kids
I paid for it and it's MY watch! I ain't letting NO ONE have it, you hear me! When I die I'll have the motherfucker cremated along with me, make my whole family watch as it melts away before their eyes! Fuck no I'm not letting some asshat get MY watch when I die!
Saving up for a JLC Master Control, ref. 140 889.
I like how you don't see many people with JLC around here, and I like the simplicity. Kinda looks like a poor man's Calatrava.
I think its got more do do with not dressing outside your "class" more or less. A doctor would presumably hang around more well off people personally and especially professionaly, and thus the gold would not look all too flashy but blend more or less. If you're a goddamn long haul trucker gold just would look gaudy and try-hard.
You take a sheet of steel or white gold and then you stamp through it. Think of a cookie-cutter but for metal.
There are very few watch brands that still make hands by hand. Even Patek stamps their hands now.
Check this out: http://www.urbanjurgensen.com/legacy/craftsmanship/hands
UJ craftmanship is on another level.
You have to take into account how much the watch costs. A master control with no gimmicks goes for ~3000€, whereas that won't even get you a Calatrava that's fucked up beyond all recognition.
This movado styling gets a lot of hate because the company that makes them kinda overcharges for mediocrity, but I still kinda like this dial.
Maybe I'll try and hunt down a vintage model.
>You are definitely right. Still, I find JLC generally a bit lackluster.
The problem with JLC for ages what that they didn't really have any rugged sport watches/divers like rolex et.al.
Sure there was the reverso, but that's pretty much a dress watch and has been for decades, at least since its reintroduction in the 60's.
But their attempts at making sporty watches kinds fail IMO. Too messy, too busy. They're not chaotic shit like zenith, but there's just nothing special about them.
>so who cares?
Watch companies like JLC do since they want to gain more market share and "sporty" watches worn by the decidedly unsporty make other companies (omega, rolex) a lot of money.
Wear a sporty watch! Imply to onlookers and potential pussy that you're an ACTIVE MAN even though you just sit at an office all fucking day.
Cucks? There's a hell of a lot of them then, pushing up the prices of used steel, mens sports rolexes beyond any sanity annually.
>Watch companies like JLC do
And why should I or anyone else care about that? If you like a certain watch, buy it - regardless of whether or not you like other watches the brand produces.
And lmao at wearing a sporty watch so people will think you're active.
>And lmao at wearing a sporty watch so people will think you're active.
Literally every submariner or seamaster owner everywhere.
Tag shit? Who do you think even buys that?
They sell an image, and it fucking works well for them since enough pathetic, cashed up men fall for it.
>ITT poorfags that, whenever they recognize it or not, go through life being SUPER JELLY of real swiss watches they can't afford, so they end up jerking each other while trying to convince themselves that their shitty nig nog, hommage, replica, cheap japs or microbrands (lol) watches are worth more than crap they are.
How jelly are you, plebs?
Only met one person with a Seamaster, he played tennis. But I totally get what you mean with Tags though.
Still, when I see people with sporty watches, I don't assume they're active. At all. I mostly assume they're alcoholics or wife-beaters. Though I guess the latter implies some exercise.
Don't forget it has other nice details like the rodium-plated silver Arabic numeral hour markers, the blued seconds hand etc.
Not to mention the crazy 1000-hour test that debuted with that line and is now the benchmark for all their watches.
If you get it, get a navy croc strap. Trust me on this one.
Noice. Only thing I don't like is the size, but I have babby wrists.
It's also about mixing metals. Stick to either gold or silver; try not to mix both.
Gold also works on pale people, too. It's more about the style than the colour. Just look at all the "silver" shit at Claire's.
copped this a few weeks ago, very happy with it
Reposting this from the last thread would this watch or citizen eco drives in general be worth the 400AU/275US price tag for the level of quality?
>not my photo
This is the watch I wear the most: I got this when I was like 14 but I guess Interstellar kinda put Hamiltons on the hype train. Thoughts?
Yeah they're built well but ugly and the movement is unexciting its a solar panel a battery pack and a circuit board.
It's basically a glorified quartz movement.
A nicer version is a Seiko kinetic which is a quartz movement charged by a counterweight.
If you're willing to sacrifice built quality, fit and finish and resale value I would just get a tissot.
They're worthless second hand. But the use eta blank movements the same kind used in the nicer counterfeit Rolex watches. But they sign the counter weight and put a real fancy looking patek Phillipe knock off face on it
The bracelets that come on them are Nixon tier douche bag but you can find nicer ones
Also tissot is kind of known as a douche bag brand for club hoppers but they can look good
Citizen has never made very good quality watches; they're like low-tier, jewelry store watches at a price point that they don't deserve. What is your price range? And are you opposed to buying used?
>And are you opposed to buying used?
Currently Im not but thats only because i am quite ignorant about watches and am worried about getting fakes or sold a dodgy watch that looks nice but wont last more than a year. Currently working on sorting that issue out
Are there any sites you would recommend for second hand watches?
How important is water resistance?
Lastly I was looking on that chart and some of the brands appealed to me, however they seem a tad obscure, does that mean it will be very expensive and a long wait when it comes to having them serviced and fixed?
I don't know much at all about watches, but I need one $200 or less. I looked into Seiko 5s, and I found one I like a lot. Pic related. Problem is, it's apparently impossible to actually find one for sale. None on ebay, amazon, or any other Google results I sifted through.
Tips on actually getting my hands on this watch?
They've got a couple different ones in the 50th anniversary collection that have the compass styled dial to them, the SRP413 would be my 2nd choice. But all these other models are sold out everywhere as well. Was this just a super limited run or what? I see prices at like 160-200, just all sold out.
Not at all.
They make dependable shit for and affordable price but their offerings these days are pretty much all solar quartz if that's what you want.
I'll counter sieg's suggestion of tissot with mido instead. Low end swatch group's less talked about memeber is far less shitty than boring ass tissot or certina imo anyway. But you'll probs be paying more in oz if you can find them at all, go online for a better deal.
Why do you want this citizen?
Got this for getting into St. Johns Worts Uni. Don't really know if I like it, I think I would have rather gotten a hublot big bang in red.
Ok, I'll say Eco-Drive specifically. Chronomasters are nice, but Eco-Drives are just overall not that great of quality overall. The solar technology is decent I guess, but, like another poster said, there are better watches to buy in regard to any of their qualities in the same price range.
Id avoid Seiko 5 or any mainline Seiko not made in Japan which is most.
Seiko has been cutting costs and restructuring their brand so only the grand Seiko and credit lines are made in Japan in house.
Back in the day Seiko was good because the sheer amount of hand finishing and in house design and build you got for your dollar.
In an era where Rolex was producing shit like the quartz watches you had this Japanese company pumping out insane watches for a few hundred dollars.
It's a decade after seikos dominance ended. Now it's all Malaysian made divers or 7s26 movements in mainline watches and folded links when they previously would not ever make a watch with folded links.
Seikos mainline is sinking Seiko 5 sunk in the 80's
I mean I know most seiko 5's cost less than a Timex weekender and are automatic....but you're getting arcrylic crystals, arcrylic exhibition cases, plastic day/date wheels and pot metal stems
It's not a good watch.
Now if you knew more about watches I'd tell you to go find a Seiko from ~2004-2009 but chances are you'll fuck up and windup with like an orange mobster made in Malaysia for a premium thinking you found in house
Can anyone help me out here? I've literally never bought a watch before. What's the protocol when it's not immediately available on Amazon or Ebay?
I see very few watches these days that aren't waterproof, but that being said, you don't need a 100M waterproof watch unless I suppose you're using it for actual diving.
As far as the type of watch you like on the chart - I would say to just use it as a guide. Look at the examples and price ranges, and see what style you like, then do your own independent research from there.
As far as used watches go, just buy them from any reliable seller (local or otherwise) and make sure that there is some way that they can be checked to be reliable and in proper working order, such as by taking them to a shop.
Riiiight. Uh, I don't know how else to frame it, but I'm 20 and working a shit job in food service. So like, I just need a watch that is relatively cheap and looks alright. The compass dial is definitely my aesthetic, but if I can't get one, then whatever. But if Seiko isn't the way to go, what is for sub $200?
I mean I'd go for resellers only if its a luxury watch, there are some real pieces if shit out there marking up piece of shit seikos as if they're prospex/spring drive models and some unknowing kid is going to strap it to his wrist thinking he has the king shit.
Or some fuckface selling him something as a king Seiko and it turning out to be a Seiko 5 or somethibg with a dial swap.
I mean these dudes will see a non rotating bezel on a diver and not immediately see a red flag
Or see that a grand Seiko they're buying on craigslist has a brass base metal played case
Buy a knock off Daniel selling ton and put it on a really gaudy neon RAF style strap.
Will get more girls on social media
Also you don't have the type of lifestyle that seems to warrant a nicer watch than that.
Don't pay more than $10
I don't really care. It just sits at the bottom of my desk drawer on most days. I wore it a few times to a Goldman Sachs internship my pops arranged for me but it doesn't really fit my day-to-day wear. Honestly I think my dad is an asshole who knows nothing about his own son and he bought me something I would never wear.
My sister says I should just sell it and buy the watch that I really wanted. pic related.
I might I guess...depends on how I do this year. I'll demand I get the watch I want when I graduate or something.
As autistic as this is, I read that the watch they made for the movie "drive" is one of a kind. It was supposed to represent what the book said, and looked really minimal.
I think ryan gosling got to keep it too. Doubt he ever wears it though.
>or any mainline Seiko not made in Japan which is most.
Which is all under 3000.
Under 1k? None are really made in jap.
Not even the marine master is made in jap.
Just grands, anantas and credor.
This watch specifically because I am looking for a watch with a blue face and golden roman numerals as this is a contrast I enjoy quite a lot.
Citizens in general because I like their simplicity (Im not a fan of those watches that are clutered with various tertiary dials). In addition to that I also like the slimmer and less clunky design which is present in a lot of those diver style watches.
None of the people my age wear anything by Patek. We literally see it as either inheriting your dad's old shitty watch, or buying new because you want to look like you're from money and you inherited that shitty watch from you dad.
Literally look around at the wrist of any 20 year old guy the next time you're at Stadt or Aspen and you'll see that no one is wearing a Patek. I look fucking ridiculous if I wore this around my friends who typically wear AP, Hubs, or R. Milles.
A casio watch made in the 80s which allowed you to record a play back your voice
>Seiko has been cutting costs and restructuring their brand so only the grand Seiko and credit [Credor] lines are made in Japan in house.
It's absolutely true that Seiko is moving more production offshore. So is every brand including very nice high end Swiss brands and so is every single product in any industry ever, nothing is safe from globalization and third world production. In and of itself it doesn't mean much, you can hardly avoid it and it's disappointing but it certainly isn't an absolute indicator of whether something is good or not.
I'm not sure what you mean by "in house" though, Seiko continues to be Seiko and they design and build all their stuff with their own manufacturing facilities, whether those are in Japan or Malaysia or anywhere else. They're moving production elsewhere but there's no indication that they're actually outsourcing it to other companies or anything like that (in the same way that say, TAG is buying movements and parts from Seiko or Swiss companies have historically traded movements all the time for decades like Rolex Daytonas and Patek chronos both using Valjoux ebauches and Audemars providing movements to JLC for years until they ended up owned by the same conglomerate and now JLC makes the movements for AP).
>In an era where Rolex was producing shit like the quartz watches
You mean their one quartz watch, which was excellent and had among the best quartz movements ever?
>when they previously would not ever make a watch with folded links.
I have a Seiko watch made in Japan that my dad got as a gift in 1975 and it has a folded bracelet. I also have an Omega made around 1979 with a folded bracelet too. In fact pretty much every bracelet used to be folded until solid links became popular not that long ago and suddenly became a must-have feature.
I'll even continue a bit in the next post, but I don't know why I even bother because you're just talking out your ass like you always do.
>I mean I know most seiko 5's cost less than a Timex weekender and are automatic....but you're getting arcrylic crystals, arcrylic exhibition cases, plastic day/date wheels and pot metal stems
You keep repeating that shit about acrylic crystals on Seiko 5s. I have never seen one with acrylic and they certainly have not made any with acrylic this century. And by the way Seiko 5 was started as their cheap shitty entry level for poor third worlders. After quartz came around they were kept as some of the few mechanicals that Seiko kept in production because at the time quartz was still too expensive to put in the cheapest watches. They are cheap shit, nobody has ever not said that they are cheap shit. A lot of people just buy them anyway because they are one of the best options among cheap shit and one of the few reasonable decent options alongside shit like Vostok if you insist on having a mechanical movement for less than like $100.
Yeah I agree. I guess his fate, just like finding a deal in anything else, relies on his knowledge of the items he intends to purchase.
Also, I would say that in the ~$200 range, Seiko does have some decent options, but nothing close to their $1500+.
Personally, I'd really like to pick up an Omega Speedmaster Professional; have you ever owned one?
>They are cheap shit, nobody has ever not said that they are cheap shit.
sadly this is true. a seiko 5 is actually so bad that I prefer even quartz over it any day because I don't see why I should have a self-winding automatic that just stops every now and then and doesn't keep time as well as quartz which just runs.
Ha, that's fun. My father just acquired one of these. I thought nobody really knew about the brand outside of Denmark.
And, well of course, actual watch enthusiasts.
Opinions on strap choice?
Should I get another, if yes: please provide ideas, because I'm out of them.
idk i bought a fake Daniel Wellington watch that cost me less than 5$ and i have it for half a year already
my older brother has the same watch but legit one and the main differences are the mass of the watch and the sound of the mechanics if you put your ears on the back of it
>pic related, my watch
It's my watch, my pops, and my wrist. I'll do as I please. You don't see me telling you what to do with your fake Daniel Whateveritons.
Proves my point doesn't it? I'm not old man Allen. I'm old man Allen's son's best friend -and we don't wear Rolex or Pateks because they are OLD.
I imagine you're picking up Seiko 5s and thinking you have a mineral crystal when in fact you do not.
And simply flipping the watch over and seeing the printed information on the exhibition case back and you will see that it is 100% plastic.
And if you do the heat gun test you'd quickly find out that the same material is used as the watch crystal on the front side.
And looking through that plastic caseback...you will see made in Malaysia proudly displayed
Not true the watches Reddit likes are all outsources. Go to macys and you'll see a few in the $550 range made in japan still iirc most kinetics are still Japan made
Your probelm is you're on the low end of mainline 007, monsters, and other budget drivien divers/sarbs
The entry level folded link Malaysian made/7s26 equipped shit doesn't speak for the whole brand.
The marinemaster is made offshore for the people who want a decent Seiko but can't afford it and don't mind substantially poorer fit and finish to get some trickle down from credor/GS
Not him, but mainly technology. They make good watches and both think of and solve problems as efficiently they can.
They made inhouse movements in the 1990s and spend more time on finishing of their movements than the holy trinity. Of course a 3939 or 5270 is beautifully finished but at Lange you get the same finishing regardless if it's a time only or a grand complication - the best they can do.
That said, since Lange is now a part of Richemont I would personally absolutely not buy a new one unless I was hilariously rich and even then only to get a piece unique.
Not not true:
>".....due to the nature of customs and labor laws in Japan, products are generally allowed to be stamped with Made in Japan if they are produced outside the national boundaries as long as they are manufactured in a wholly owned Japanese firm where the work is overseen by Japanese nationals. Generally speaking, watches priced below about 90000 yen (currently $838 US dollars) do not contain enough profit margin to be made in Japan. This is not just for Seiko, but for all major Japanese manufacturers. Watches priced roughly from 90000 to 250000 yen (currently $838 to 2328 US dollars) are often finished or with final assembly done in Japan and higher end watches above this point are often fully assembled in Japan. ....."
No sub 1k seiko's are made on the islands that constitute japan.
just to confirm that white brits don't give their kids watches like this, even the wealthy ones
stingy to the last
trust a singaporean tho lmao
materialistic (and boring as fuck) to the last
i can see why you wanted the hublot now, like every other asian manlet that wants a dinner plate on their wrist kek
don't be a stereotype for you kind
you should know better
Oh and Lange has existed for much more than 20 years, though they were shut down during DDR times.
Laurent Ferrier is an actually young brand that charge ~30k for their steel pieces, what's your opinion on that?
How about a PAM337 that'd actually fit your wrist at least?
>That said, since Lange is now a part of Richemont
This puts me off them.
> I would personally absolutely not buy a new one unless I was hilariously rich and even then only to get a piece unique.
When's your cutoff point?/cutoff models?
I'm jelly, love that watch and really wanted to buy one.
Shame that they're way out of my price range.
I'd say the strap you have now matches the face. You could also try something simpler, maybe a plain darker brown leather.
AP, PP, VC
That was my point.
Glashutte Original worst day of my life
With the death of VEB Glashutte GUB died the last 100% German made in Germany watch, bought out by literal Swatch greedy capitalists.
Their calibres are quite literally the same designs as GDR era ones but decorated with some better materials and regulation for a 1000%++ markup. This is disgusting because Swatch got their fingers on it, and they're shamelessly milking their GDR inherited patents and design
Look for example at their 1960s line, they use movements that were found in the Spezimatic with the same aesthetic but cost a huge price. And their production has contracted.
Yes I am mad, people in the former GDR are rightfully pissed that all their neat domestic industries made with adverse conditions and limited resources were bought out and destroyed
And this is on top of the fact that "German" micro labels like Stowa use Chinese cases. Swatch is fucking poison and it ruined a great company because of the everything made under communism is bad meme
Would not buy/10 on principal if you want a Glashutte made watch at least get the honest, non Swatch owned Nomos or shop elsewhere Glashutte Original is haram
dang that's what i was afraid of. i like their designs and was considering copping one but have heard stories similar to what you outlined here.
and yeah already have a nomos >>10866004
, like the brand a lot but their newer models (lux/lambda) seem a bit lackluster
Hardlex is Seiko's proprietary hardened mineral glass. On the Mohs hardness scale, acrylic/plexiglass is around 3-4; regular mineral glass is about 5; Seiko makes at least two different grades of Hardlex, I think they claim about 7 for the cheaper stuff in Seiko 5s and more like 8 for the Hardlex used in divers; and sapphire is 9. Sieg is a retard, as always.
Just ordered. Got bored with my regular mall-tier gold casio.
Personally I don't really care if it's between hardlex and sapphire, they're both pretty damn hard and sapphire isn't strictly superior anyway since the increased hardness also means increased risk of shattering into a million sharp fragments. I have divers with sapphire and with hardlex and I've never scratched any of them. I also have no problem with acrylic, it's very easy to polish it until it looks almost brand new and I personally don't mind polishing my acrylic watches every couple of weeks to keep them fresh. The only type I really hate is regular mineral glass because it's still really easy to scratch, but unlike acrylic you can't polish it so those scratches are there forever.
Speaking of poor man's calatrava I've been eyeing this one for a while now. $165
swings and roundabouts really. If you do scratch a mineral glass you can buy a replacement for £2 or so and switch it in with a press without much technical ability. I've had mineral glass on my every day watch for about a year now and it's still scratch free.
Sapphire's at least £30 for a diver watch and that's at trade prices.
Sorry, I meant affordable
I love my damasko
Well at least you have a Nomos. Its a patrician choice at the minimum
Well if you wanna buy in the price range of Glashutte Original and buy a good dress watch get jlc. If you want sporty then Sinn, Damasko or Rolex.
Gold is gaudy no matter who you are. There's basically no excuse for a man to wear it. I'm from a pretty rich area so I see it from time to time but most men know better even if they can afford it.
>Right, now that the shilling is out of the way, questions:
>What will you be leaving behind for the next generation besides a greasy stain where you shrugged off this mortal coil?
Didn't you just say the shilling was gone? Why are you still spouting swatchgroup bollocks?
It's pretty hard not to look like a literal autist when you're wearing something that autists wear because they can have difficulty with analog. This is the best I got though
Exactly the problem. Think that smart watches are the only way around it
And by the way it dates back all the way to the very first clocks. IIII is more historically accurate to how actual Romans would've most commonly written 4, but in Rome there were really no standard rules. IV instead of IIII only came into common use a few hundred years ago.
can you tell me what is it?
You completely missed the joke. You're the closest I've ever seen to a literal Patrick Bateman. Also top kek knowing that you only got somewhere in life because your parents made something of themselves. Even topper kek when you probably will decrease your family's net worth.
i don't know what is, i'm wearing a $50 casio.
>-and we don't wear Rolex or Pateks because they are OLD.
too much b8 there, i'm sorry that i have already write you an answer, i wish i could have erased it.
How do you guys feel about Panerai, or in this case, Marina Militare homages? This one is made by Parnis with a Seagull 3600 swan neck movement, and it's pretty cheap (<$100), although I'd probably look for a slightly different one with an olive canvas strap. For reference to those of you who might say buying a "fake" is dumb: I'm not going to drop $7,000 on one. Only other watches I own currently are a Tag Heuer WK110-1, a Hamilton Khaki Pilot Day Date, and a shitty Luminox I got as a young kid.
Dad just gave me his GMT-Master II with coke bezel from the late 90's. What do? Pic not mine.
As for jewels and quality in the movement, it depends on the maker. Jewels doesn't mean as much as it used to though.
Quartz means that the watch is battery-operated. Quartz movements can be really good actually, but at that point, you might as well be wearing a casio.
I have only seen 2 of them in person and fuck they're sloppy. They're assembled in china. Talking hair and fingerprints on the inside of the case. Specks of dust or oil on the movement that could drip onto the exhibition caseback.
Most people don't care about that and just wants a watch that works....but why bother with a swan neck Chinese knock off movement with an exhibition caseback if all you get is sloppy work. ? Like what's the point?
Oh and the recessed indiglo is apperntly glow in the dark craft paint so it never actually works
Black / Red is called coke you mongoloid
thoughts on AP's?
i've grown to like these a lot
My family has been wealthy for 4 generations now. My grandfather didn't do shit, my father doesn't do shit, and neither will I. My great grandfather started a garment factory and started one of the early phone companies in Malaysia and Singapre.
But do you really think legacy wealth rests on the shoulders of one patriarch? We have a board that does all the heavy lifting in terms of our telecom businesses. And our venture fund is handled by people much smarter than anyone in my family.
Our wealth has continued to grow hand over fist in spite of itself.
Most of the white Brits you think of as rich are so poor they have problems keeping their manor maintained. Most of their wealth has no cashflow, and any money that is generated goes right back into maintaining their estate. Literally a grindstone around their neck, but no one wants to be the generation that sold their familial home.
Then I guess the world can't count on you or any of your lazy fuck ancestors except for your great-grandfather. How does it feel knowing your life is actually meaningless. You might enjoy it, yes, but the reality is that you, and your father before you, and his father before him, literally did nothing (according to you).
And the product of all of these years of nothingness? You. Your borderline psychotic attitude has been molded by seeing nothing but worthless beings.
Fair point. Are they all that bad or is this just the impression of Parnis? It's funny you mentioned about the exhibition case back with nothing great to look at, because I thought the same thing while looking at photos.
I'm fine with it. I've been given the ultimate ticket to be an observer to the human condition. I can watch casually unattached to the pains and pleasures of those around me. I can enjoy and critique at my own leisure.
No idea, the guys that showed them to me kept repeating that they couldn't afford a panerai and didn't want to get a fake.
So like their main motivation wasn't that they liked the parnis its that they couldn't afford panerai so they have it....they seemed happy but they repeated that like 10 times in 15 mins
but don't you like the bracelet?
since that model has drilled lug holes, changing straps is infinitely easier than on later models.
if you plan on changing straps alot, order a lug tool online. it will cost you maybe 15 bucks
everytime you take your watch to the acne riddled, minimum age worker at a watch shop or jeweler they'll probably charge yo 15 or more just to change the strap
do it yourself so you don't get jewed
you also have control over it and will be more careful
these incompetents scratch the the fuck out of things all the time
of course this is dependent on where you are
if you live in a shitty area, the service will be shitty
if not, then you don't have anything to worry about
i prefer to change the shit myself, if anything than on principle.
>Should i get a lesther strap?
No. I think it looks fugly dumb on rolex sports models.
really hideous; a nato is better if you don't like bracelet
nato's are comy and colorful
they allow for a greater range of individualization
they allow better allow you to swing the face around to the inner part of your wrist on the off chance you don't want to attract any attention from the people around you
good for traveling through dodgy regions
or for not inciting jealousy in "friends" and acquaintances
nato's make any watch more casual than what they may have been before
since you may actually be a wealthy singaporean rather than a troll, i repeat what i said before:
don't be the stereotype
don't be the asian manlet with bitch wrists wearing a gaudy as fuck clock
you'd best have been educated your whole life in the uk or elsewhere, because singaporeans tend to awkward (to everyone else) socially
nothing else stupid massive covered in diamonds
it's just too laughable otherwise
The knockoffs have had better finishing than the real deal in the past, until one incident blew up in panerai's face and they had to backtrack and offer replacements.
They never bothered to decorate their closed caseback model, not only that, the movement was entirely, and I mean entirely, stock unregulated stuff that costs 50 bucks. In a watch edging close to 10 grand?
Brand o' cucks.
What's even more hilarious is the owners of said watch, rather than be outraged, try to justify their patronage of a shitty brand by holding onto their junk model rather than have it replaced by the factory "because it's now valuable as a collector's item".
Kek topping fuck.
It's the most hilarious thing to happen in the watch world in years and just cements the fact that panerai, and all who buy it are steaming piles of shit.
I don't like the look, but I remember hearing that if you buy your knockoff homage from some of the reliable sellers, of which there's like one out there, you'll get something clean and generally reliable.
one is the apotheosis of its kind and made to the highest standards of quality by japanese keebler elves and the other retails to black people and wiggers at 300% more than what they really cost or are worth
and they look it too
this brand has literally one look and one model that gives them >50% of their total sales
it's fucking boring
i know from a friend that collects them that they are very, very well made
but he's thai so i generally disregard his opinions on principle.
the dopey cunt
>buying a watch just so you can give it your kid when you die
How many generations until someone in the family pawns it? One? Two? Two and a half?
No, just get a rep Patek and tell them it's fucking worthless, then they're stuck with your heirloom when the pawn shop tells them to fuck off.
Also, your "Paul Allen" joke didn't even ring a tone with me because I don't think of American Psycho as some religious text to scribe over. Paul Allen to me is the business genie that my family has had lunch with while on his boat named the Octopussy. Impress dingy that guy's got.
Some wankers are placing their bougie ideas of wealth on my wrist and telling me what wealthy people actually wear. They have no idea what wealthy people wear since they aren't even around them.
I'm not trying to be Kane. Sister hung out with him a few times years ago. Once when a mutual friend held a private party at Raffles, another time at their estate outside the city. Ok guy from she said.
If you're as rich as you claim you are, don't you have better things to do than shitpost on a mongolian kite-flying board like hanging out with other rich fuccbois blowing away their inherited money on clubs, cars and clothes
It's 930 in the morning, I'll probably hit the sack soon since I've been out all night with my friends.
That's the amazing thing about technology, you can shitpost from anywhere at anytime.
So.. what's the best dress dive watches you can get for around $300 that isn't skx007 or a submariner wannabe?
pic is nice but pricey
Strech your budget a little and get a maratac sr-1
The sr-3 is 40mm.
>>What will you be leaving behind for the next generation besides a greasy stain where you shrugged off this mortal coil?
My old shitty watch that they won't want because it's two or three decades out of style?
Ok /fa/gs which one do i get? the Daniel Wellington looks more stylish, but the casio has so many useful functions. They're cheap i know, but i can't decide.
F-91W or save for a Timex Weekender or a SNK809.
>le give watch to your kid meme
I love how dumb this marketing strategy is.
If i had money for a patek, i'd rather buy my kid some gold bars. So he can sell them and buy what he likes, instead of being a pretentious little bitch with daddys watch.
>I love how dumb this marketing strategy is.
Really, really well.
>If i had money for a patek
I see. Well that explains it.
This advert is for people that already have lots of gold bars.
Looks like a fairly boring novelty watch but check out this
feel free to call it a coke zero bezel I guess? It's dark brown-black stuff that comes out a red can good enough for me.
An islamic watch with a built in compass that points to Mecca.
I was initially surprised at how much these things go for.
Then I supposed that a lot of fancy engineering had to go into the movement to make it jump around random like that.
Then I saw a fake mechanical that was capable of the exact same thing.
I think the kids who argue a watch is too big...especially a divers watch which have traditionally large cases are probably too young or feminine looking to pull off a diver watch or any watch that isn't an apple watch
>a divers watch which have traditionally large cases
but that's blatantly wrong though, up until 2010s and Invicta-tier marketing most dive watches maxed around 42mm. except maybe Panerai who was aiming for Schwarzenegger crowd. Even Connery's James Bond Sub was 38mm while Goldeneye Seamasters were 36 and 41mm. The franchise that arguably launched dive watches to stardom in the first place.
Just got a GMT-Master II from my dad. It's from the late 90's and the papers/box are in a different country.
What is the first thing I should do? He hasn't serviced it since he got it, and it was an everday watch of his for a couple of years until he got a Seamaster. It's in awesome condition still.
Get it serviced, but don't get it polished or change out any parts. You have to tell the rolex service centre specifically not to. My uncle had a submariner he bought in the 60s and had serviced and they swapped out the original hands and lume markers because they had yellowed from age, decreasing the collector's value. He didn't seem to give a shit though, he was just happy it looked brand new.