Can we talk about derbies/oxfords and dress shoes in general? There's always so many sneaker threads but I've never seen any dress shoe threads.
My pair of derbies are badly beaten and every site having a sale isn't selling anything nice, do you guys know any lowkey artisan brands?
Stick with a nice pair of Brogues, not too chunky and not too slim. They're the ultimate smart shoe because you can dress them up or down and get away with it. Just make sure you go with a full or semi brogue.
Brown or black /fa/ ?
My current dilemma is that my existing black oxfords are really shit.
But I'd also like to get brown for diversity, but then the other part of me says black quality ones is a better investment to start with.
Which ones should I buy? I'd rather not buy asos but I can't find a similar style for less than $200.
My choice, Church's Hong Kong.
I'd suggest a pair of Loake
you know what? im going to give you the tip of the day. theres a small shoe company in arkansas called "neil m" and they make high quality oxfords and business casual shoes. basically they are simple, well made oxfords and cap toe shoes (nothing flashy looking) made in the usa. they retail for around $250-300, but because they arent that popular and are realtively unknown, you can find them on ebay often times for 20-30 bucks a pair in near new condition. I have a few pair and the leather is really nice and they seem like they will last quite a long time.
I just picked up some brown cap toe oxfords, are they too formal or can I wear them with raw denim and trousers? Everything more or less says you need to wear with a suit
and I would definetely go for this:
Really really like the herrings, in terms of quality which would be better, those or the sanders? And I have been thinking of getting a more casual derby not for dress wear from SANDRO paris, any idea if their leather is good?
in terms of quality the sanders are better, just because they are using french calf. The Herrings are done in Spain, therefore a little bit cheaper, but the craftmanship is very good. And is calf leather anyway.
the diplomat line use french calf leather, it´s on the sander´s webpage. Sorry they are out of stock, I thought they had it.
Check these ones too: http://www.shoepassion.com/formal-shoes/no-599.html
and even though they are not black, they are so beautiful:
I didn´t know Kenzo did formal shoes. Can you link them?
No, they are brands on their own. Herring hires them, sometimes, to produce shoes for them under the Herring name, but those are produced in England. I don´t know which spanish maker does the ones in Spain.
Allen Edmond. Be warned though, the soles don't last that long. I stupidly wore mine like my Red Wings, being my only other Goodyear welted shoe, and within half a year the sole was down the welt compared to 1 1/2 years strong on the boots.
would love some raf chain or thom browne brogue derbies
Rate these sandro? Except mine are fully black retailed for €350 friend wants to sell them unworn to me for 110.
depends on how old are you. That might look like a formal shoe, but you should wear it very casual, with jeans and t-shirts.
The price is great, but you can still find some really nice shoes for 110 euros, if you are lucky.
Just say fuck it and buy these, live the dream i would be living if they hadn't sold out of my size.
Bought these Cheaney's a while back for an unbelievable price, and man does the leather impress after wearing nothing but docs my whole life.
I'm still looking for the perfect black pair that'll last until my dying breath but that's a fortune to spend on another day.
Church's shannon derby. Very similar to the raf derby.
I actually couldn't say much more than that they are made in England. I have a feeling they are some form of diffusion because of how much I payed. Good leather is good leather though.
The sole is just Vibram rubber which to me was actually a plus.
good thing GYW shoes can be resoled, eh?
are your red wings also leather-soled? it's always struck me as odd that RW will do that, despite their reputation as a "tougher" brand
if you do resole, consider getting dainite (or stud) soles for a sort of dressier but still durable sole
opinion on these?
or should i just save up for Church's Shannons
I really want some chunky derbies
I found the APC surplus store while i was in Paris yesterday and got these black derbies for 50% off
I know that that's technically true, but will most people really look closely enough at your shoes to see that you're wearing oxfords and not derbies? And if they do, who on earth would care?
they look very good, just copped some similar ones from common projects for £150. I love derbies, nice cop man
and is not just for someone who is into shoes, is because the close lacing make them look more compact and create a more strict style. Imo I don´t think they are too formal to be worn with jeans, but a t-shirt would be too much.
>buy a pair of allen edmonds that will last years due to being resole-able for $250
>buy lanvins that last for less than 50 wears because of shitty rubber heel and cost triple that
>not a big deal
the soles look pretty silly, they would be fine for a 200 dollar pair but at 500 dollar dress shoes I would be going for smooth leather soles(or all the texturing not visible from the side profile) with possible nails in it for icy weather
Finally a thread i can relate to.
Pic related is my churchs and crockett&jones. Looking to pick up more crocketts when i've got more dollar.
I like the black derbys because they're chunky, have some kind of attitude. I don't actually wear black often.
The oxfords are actually ox blood/ burgundy, they immediately appealed to me. Theyre versatile, and i wear a charcoal suit
Thinking of buying 1 of these 3 following pairs for interviews, work, dressing up.
1: want les essentials reduced from 500 > 250
2: lanvin retailed for 670, resold for 315.
CP derbies (used) worn once for 315
LOVE my Thoms. Although they make a fuckload of noise when walking on hard surfaces. The metals tips. No joke - you could kill a man with these shoes.
I have 2 pair of the APC Chic derbies and EVERYONE loves them. Just yesterday an italiano at the local pizza joint asked me where I got them. APC footwear definitely underrated.
$1000 flat i think?
definitely most durable shoes I own. Dad's got a ~1500 pair of john lobb's and those are less durable (comparing sole & leather toughness). Both shoes also have personalized cobblers to go to for repairs (city/continent dependent) and should last 10-20 years if not a lifetime
Seriously? It reduces formality, there is nothing wrong with it.
It's not like there is any other style for a more casual oxford.