Can we talk about derbies/oxfords and dress shoes in general?

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>>10795375
Stick with a nice pair of Brogues, not too chunky and not too slim. They're the ultimate smart shoe because you can dress them up or down and get away with it. Just make sure you go with a full or semi brogue.

>>10795444
I find the pattern disgusting personally, looks like something the cartel would wear.

>>10796027
The cartel is effay though?

>>10795375

how 2 wear derbies casually, all i see is cuffed jeans i dont like that shit

Brown or black /fa/ ?
My current dilemma is that my existing black oxfords are really shit.
But I'd also like to get brown for diversity, but then the other part of me says black quality ones is a better investment to start with.

>>10798604
Black.

What are some budget derbies /Oxfords such as the red wing 101 postman's

>>10798604
you can wear black with pretty much anything, where has brown has to be coupled properly.

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Which ones should I buy? I'd rather not buy asos but I can't find a similar style for less than $200.

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norse projects x tricker's

>>10795375
wtf are talking? There are really nice shoes for sale now.
Where are you now?
What´s your size?
What colour?
How much?

I´ll give you some nice shoes to shop.

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My choice, Church's Hong Kong.

>>10798613
I'd suggest a pair of Loake

>>10799322
left. and wear them with socks, not like the model.

>>10799684
Not op but also looking:

in seattle, size 9, black, around $350.

>>10799729
derby? oxford? with or without broguing?

>>10795375
you know what? im going to give you the tip of the day. theres a small shoe company in arkansas called "neil m" and they make high quality oxfords and business casual shoes. basically they are simple, well made oxfords and cap toe shoes (nothing flashy looking) made in the usa. they retail for around $250-300, but because they arent that popular and are realtively unknown, you can find them on ebay often times for 20-30 bucks a pair in near new condition. I have a few pair and the leather is really nice and they seem like they will last quite a long time.

>>10799684
UK 7/41 Oxford or derby, no broguing. OP here.

>>10800311
$$?
colour?

>>10800319
Black, budget of $250

>>10800323
give me 10 minutes.
250 USD, delivery included in that, I assume.

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I just picked up some brown cap toe oxfords, are they too formal or can I wear them with raw denim and trousers? Everything more or less says you need to wear with a suit

>>10800323
check these:
http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/product-info.php?&brandid=6&shoeid=10728&x=1

http://www.arthurknightshoes.co.uk/arthur-knight-shoes/2196/black-wholecut-oxford-mens-shoes

and I would definetely go for this:
http://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/collections/sale-price-desc/products/sanders-tokyo-derby

>>10800373
if they are plain like that, yes, they are more formal. But they look great with light colour trousers and navy jackets.

>>10800379
Really really like the herrings, in terms of quality which would be better, those or the sanders? And I have been thinking of getting a more casual derby not for dress wear from SANDRO paris, any idea if their leather is good?

>>10800392
in terms of quality the sanders are better, just because they are using french calf. The Herrings are done in Spain, therefore a little bit cheaper, but the craftmanship is very good. And is calf leather anyway.

I ordered some black derbies from kenzo because I liked the look of em are they any good in terms of quality

>>10800413
Samders seem to be out of stock in my size anyway. Where did you learn that sanders use french calf?

>>10800413
Also, are all the other major English shoe makers listed under the herrings website (and have links to them) like loake and churchs subsidaries of herring?

>>10800442
the diplomat line use french calf leather, it´s on the sander´s webpage. Sorry they are out of stock, I thought they had it.
Check these ones too: http://www.shoepassion.com/formal-shoes/no-599.html
http://www.shoepassion.com/formal-shoes/no-555.html
and even though they are not black, they are so beautiful:
http://www.shoepassion.com/contemporary-shoes/no-300.html

>>10800426
I didn´t know Kenzo did formal shoes. Can you link them?

>>10800465
No, they are brands on their own. Herring hires them, sometimes, to produce shoes for them under the Herring name, but those are produced in England. I don´t know which spanish maker does the ones in Spain.

>>10796742
dark chinos nigga

c/n, Red Wing EU only, would be a bitch to get but they look so nice

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>>10800546
forgot pic

>>10800546
what are you talking about?

Allen Edmond. Be warned though, the soles don't last that long. I stupidly wore mine like my Red Wings, being my only other Goodyear welted shoe, and within half a year the sole was down the welt compared to 1 1/2 years strong on the boots.

>>10800500
http://www.menlook.com/us/derbies-1/thibaud-leather-abrasivato-cuir-derby-shoes-with-leather-sole-kenzo-213300.html?gclid=CjwKEAiA8K20BRDetNv3p6DNhXwSJADSwa3tY3Rs1ntgx4sbTZfBgzQdrD-EdknDEqac37gHT6xfFxoCTs7w_wcB&ef_id=VT32UQAABH-O0B7f%3A20160105221924%3As&ectrans=1

>>10800587
that´s a problem. They should have not worn off so fast.

>>10800598
quite a modern look, but imho polished leather is not a vey good inversion.

>>10800623
Yeah i dont expect to wear them too much but I thought it seemed good enough for what I wanted, all leather made in portugal etc

>>10799684

US size 13, black, under 100 USD.

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would love some raf chain or thom browne brogue derbies

>>10801785
sorry bro, 100 USD is not enough for a formal shoe, at least not european made.

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>>10802895
Rate these sandro? Except mine are fully black retailed for €350 friend wants to sell them unworn to me for 110.

>>10803111
depends on how old are you. That might look like a formal shoe, but you should wear it very casual, with jeans and t-shirts.
The price is great, but you can still find some really nice shoes for 110 euros, if you are lucky.

>>10799729
http://man.totokaelo.com/ann-demeulemeester/vitello-derby/black/N14B29/148-4202-290-099

Just say fuck it and buy these, live the dream i would be living if they hadn't sold out of my size.

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Bought these Cheaney's a while back for an unbelievable price, and man does the leather impress after wearing nothing but docs my whole life.

I'm still looking for the perfect black pair that'll last until my dying breath but that's a fortune to spend on another day.

>>10803154
and think he just should say fuck it.

>>10803170
uk cheaney? can you show us the sole?

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Church's shannon derby. Very similar to the raf derby.

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>>10803175
I actually couldn't say much more than that they are made in England. I have a feeling they are some form of diffusion because of how much I payed. Good leather is good leather though.

The sole is just Vibram rubber which to me was actually a plus.

>>10803242
they look very nice. And yes, Vibram soles are a plus.

>>10799504
wait shit did I miss these?
>>10799322
I'd tell you to get jack erwin, meermins, or wait for a sale from AE before dropping 200 on a shit produc

>>10800587
good thing GYW shoes can be resoled, eh?
are your red wings also leather-soled? it's always struck me as odd that RW will do that, despite their reputation as a "tougher" brand

if you do resole, consider getting dainite (or stud) soles for a sort of dressier but still durable sole

>>10803170
>>10803242
usually I find it weird to see thicker soles like vibrams on oxfords, but in this case it looks great
very nice cop

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bueno

opinion on these?
http://www.humanic.net/at/Herren/Schuhe/Schnuerschuhe/DHPollak-Glattleder-Schnuerschuh-schwarz-2121127880?related-search=%2FMensShoes-category%2FDHPollak-brand&index=11

or should i just save up for Church's Shannons
I really want some chunky derbies

>>10804515
the 3/4 view looks unflattering
would've liked to see a top-down photo
you sure you want a whole cut derby? not a cap toe or anything?

>>10804519
i'm not really a fan of cap toes, whole cut derbies are much more versatile in my opinion.

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I found the APC surplus store while i was in Paris yesterday and got these black derbies for 50% off

>>10804568

I'm not sure if these are the same ones, but they look much better irl

>>10800373

The closed style lacing is a little too formal to be worn with jeans.

>>10804659
I know that that's technically true, but will most people really look closely enough at your shoes to see that you're wearing oxfords and not derbies? And if they do, who on earth would care?

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>>10804576
they look very good, just copped some similar ones from common projects for £150. I love derbies, nice cop man

>>10804775
me.
and is not just for someone who is into shoes, is because the close lacing make them look more compact and create a more strict style. Imo I don´t think they are too formal to be worn with jeans, but a t-shirt would be too much.

>>10804849
where did you get those?

>>10804890
barneys, in store on the new years day sale. retail is £365 ($535), so I'm pretty happy haha

>>10804971
ffff
mad jelly

>>10800379
Fucking hell I don't believe it, I come home from work ready to buy the herring's and they are sold out.

>>10805219
That's how it goes. I'm pretty shocked at how even the most obscure-seeming thing sells out so quickly.

Why do I often find designer derbies for >$500 without good year welt?

>>10808136
a lot of designers cbf to go beyond a blake welt
isn't a really big deal imo

>>10808224
>buy a pair of allen edmonds that will last years due to being resole-able for $250

>buy lanvins that last for less than 50 wears because of shitty rubber heel and cost triple that

>not a big deal

>>10808247
but you can resole blake welts, can't you?

>>10796742
Decent trousers
Tucked longsleeve t-shirt

ITT: plebs

>>10809256
elaborate, my underage /fa/m

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C/n

>>10811382
$?

>>10811660
500

>>10811931
absolutely not. On that price range you can get something way better,

>>10811933
Define better, to me these are amazing

>>10811936
the texture added to the leather is quite damaging to it. If you want some texture try with scotch grain leather.

>>10811936
the soles look pretty silly, they would be fine for a 200 dollar pair but at 500 dollar dress shoes I would be going for smooth leather soles(or all the texturing not visible from the side profile) with possible nails in it for icy weather

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>>10795375
Finally a thread i can relate to.
Pic related is my churchs and crockett&jones. Looking to pick up more crocketts when i've got more dollar.

>>10804659
I wear oxfords with jeans all the time. As long as it's a sleek look with a button up, you're away.

>>10811963
quite a peculiar choice you made there: black brogues and brown oxfords. Good, that sets you apart.

>>10811963
>black
>brogues

you're a savage

>>10811988
if you have only two formal shoes is better to have a black plain oxford and a brown brogue.

>>10811978
I like the black derbys because they're chunky, have some kind of attitude. I don't actually wear black often.
The oxfords are actually ox blood/ burgundy, they immediately appealed to me. Theyre versatile, and i wear a charcoal suit

>>10811996
do you have any problem lacing those oxfords? I have a high instep, so I have to be careful with which last I choose for my oxfords.

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Thinking of buying 1 of these 3 following pairs for interviews, work, dressing up.

1: want les essentials reduced from 500 > 250

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>>10812007
2: lanvin retailed for 670, resold for 315.

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>>10812013
CP derbies (used) worn once for 315

>>10812000
None at all. I believe the term is 'like a glove'

>>10812007
>>10812013
>>10812017
These are all very casual. I wouldn't suggest you wear any to an interview

>>10812007
>>10812013
>>10812017
given those options, the first ones.

>>10811382
Holy fuck no

>>10801927
LOVE my Thoms. Although they make a fuckload of noise when walking on hard surfaces. The metals tips. No joke - you could kill a man with these shoes.
>>10804568
I have 2 pair of the APC Chic derbies and EVERYONE loves them. Just yesterday an italiano at the local pizza joint asked me where I got them. APC footwear definitely underrated.

>>10812139
How much were your thoms?
Theyre the sort of price where you could get shoes made for you

>>10811382
FUCK YES.

>>10798604
Brown.
It's a bit more difficult, but usually works better with outfits that show that little bit more personality.

>>10799322
A local artisan around here has a similar design at half price

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>>10795444

>brogueing

>>10798604

Always, always, always black

Looking to cop some Greson someday. Anybody have pair?

>>10813706
I share this opinion

>>10812296
$1000 flat i think?
definitely most durable shoes I own. Dad's got a ~1500 pair of john lobb's and those are less durable (comparing sole & leather toughness). Both shoes also have personalized cobblers to go to for repairs (city/continent dependent) and should last 10-20 years if not a lifetime

>>10799504
look like the low top doc martens desu

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>>10813706
>>10813817
Seriously? It reduces formality, there is nothing wrong with it.
It's not like there is any other style for a more casual oxford.

>>10814646
Yeah, it makes oxfords more casual. I just personally think they look gross.