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Hey /diy/, I usually go to the technology board but this has been a question for a few days. So my neighbor across the street decided to start welding shit and I'm worrying about my son's eyes. He likes to play on his bike during the day, which is also when my neighbor decides to weld. The dude has a welding mask, but doesn't take care to stop the bright light. How far can I be without damaging my eyes? I'm assuming it won't affect us too much, but it's annoying to tell my son to stop and turn around when he gets halfway around the cul-de-sac.
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>>931594
tell your neighbour to set up a barrior otherwise he is posing a health and safety issue on the fucking street and can be arrested

or you can just call the police really
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>>931594
Neighbor can afford a welding curtain, and you can tell son NOT to stare at arc lights. Merely being across street isn't much hazard.
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>>931601
Yeah, but when you tell a kid to not look at something they do the opposite
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>>931594
Are you gonna raise your kid to be a post baby boomer yuppie wimp who can't look at a small weld arc? Fuck me, man. I used to l eat metal shaving for breakfast and lunch when I was a little kid.

On second thought, I turned out a mess. Yeah convince him to get a curtain set up or call the cops for civic disturbance
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This chart has UV radiation exposure levels and distances. It takes special care to note that it doesn't include the "oh shit bright" effect, which apparently isn't a problem if it's just an accidental glance or two.

https://app.aws.org/safety/safety/FACTbundle_fabricators.pdf
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>>931594
I wouldn't worry too much about it as long as he stays a few dozen feet away and doesn't stare at the arc like an idiot, but I'd still ask the neighbor to put something to block vision. It's bad practice not to do it and he could get in serious shit if something happens.
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>>931603
That's when you hit them and tell them again, softy.
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>>932205
>>931601
>>931594
You will be fine you puss fags. Jesus christ. Unless your potato child walks up and stares into the arc with his eyes open the way you do watching trap porn he will be fine.

Jesus fucking christ fucking yuppie fags I swear to god. You're dumb ass kid has more health hazards from the garbage he eats and the fucking sun.
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>>931597
No. They won't arrest or do anything because what he's doing is not illegal.
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>>932534
Your*
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>>931594
Just tell him staring at the welder will burn out his eyes. Freaked me out enough as a kid not to stare at the welding flash.

Also across the street should be ok, I've known people to take much worse. One dipshit at work was talking about the time he didn't know how to turn on his autodarking helmet and he stared at welding flash for a solid 8 hours. Of course he burned his eyes and was down for a few days, still can't believe he told that story like he was proud of it.
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>>932535
Actually criminal negligence is criminal.

The standard of proof is beyond-a-reasonable-doubt that the facts happened, and that a reasonable person would forsee the harm.

You can't just do whatever you bloody-well please, even on your own property; see for instance "attractive nuisance" law.
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>>932615
>autodarking helmet
Does visible light even damage the eye? I always thought it was UV radiation that caused damage.
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>>932619
He didn't turn it on, it doesn't filter anything when it's not on.
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>>932620
The glass probably filters UV even when it's off though. Safety glasses do, and even my reading glasses filter UV.
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>>931594
From a distance and just occasional glances, it can still cause some eye damage. Nothing to really call the cops about. Ask your neighbor to put up a barrier and tell your kid not to stare it.
>But then again as a kid we had sun staring contests. So what the fuck do I know?
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>>931594
honestly about 15 feet, i grew up around welders and learned to weld at a yound age, i have had my eyes flash burnt exactly twice. im 40 now btw, and still have 20/20

keep your kid off the neighbors property and there wont be any worry about him getting flash burn
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>>932615

We were welding a schedule 80 8" pipe for a high pressure sprinkler system, I was assisting, when I feel this presence behind me.

I look around to see one of the cement mixers staring right at the arc with look of some anime character who just got told good news. I could see the arc twinkling in his eyes like disco strobes.

I say "dread you shouldn't look right at it." And he replies "nah man it only affects you when the arc is struck, just blink then and you can watch it all day.".

I start to disagree and he comes out with "listen brujin I have had arc eye 6 times I know what I and I talking about". I just raise my hands in a "alright" gesture and get back to work. He left a good 20 mins later when the foreman came over screaming about motar.

I don't know if he was fired or got injured but I hadn't seen him since.
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>>932635
I made that mistake once, I was tac welding and I just used my hand as a shield and looked away while I closed my eyes. Got it a bit in my left eye because I turned my head to the right. It was awful, never made that mistake again.
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>>932636

>arc twinkling in his eyes like disco strobes

He made a much bigger mistake than you.
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>>931594
Tell your neighbor to put up a shield if its constant, but if he's just touching up some lite metal work then just tell your son not to look at the flash.
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>>932615
The idea of exposing my eyes to that kind of abuse kind of frightens me.
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>>932534
>hurr I can't read
I know, dumbshit.
Just saying this because I'm actually a welder and welding in the open without curtains or blocks is just asking to get raped by the long hard dick of the law refardless.
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>>931594
Delete system32. Then post video of welder/neighbor kicking your ad when you recommend a welders curtain or screen.
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>>931603

You could try talking to him like a man and if he does it just to be a little shit, then it's only himself that he's hurting. Eventually he will learn and that's part of growing up
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your son is in absolutely no danger whatsoever from any kind of damage unless he's some autistic fuck who stands within 10 feet staring straight at the arc source.

i weld every day btw and i have other welders welding around the area. we hold conversations while passes are being put down all the time often within 5 feet of the source. the most i get is mild sunburn if i don't cover up or use sunscreen.
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>>932621
All autodarkening helmets I've checked out have passive UV and infrared protection equivalent to around shade 15 regardless of being on or off. But visual light can dazzle, bleach photoreceptor pigments, and make it hard to see for a while.
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>>932618
Except that it's not negligent because it won't cause health damage
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>>932486
Fuckin preach
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>>933116
Except to stupid children, the presence of which in a suburb a reasonable person could reasonably be expected to forsee.
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>>933153
No. You're a pussy alarmist who probably screams "think of chilluns" anytime anything bad happens ever.
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