>>926448 >writing a novel >no character stats >not rolling for success Anywhere from 30 seconds to fuck it, I quit. Typically a locksmith will make a magic show out of it, errecting a curtain and everything. A nigger will just kick the door in. And anywhere requiring a door that a single nigger can't kick in will use locks that can't be simple picked in 15 minutes.
>>926455 Well maybe I will stick to /pol/ But at least I won't be dealing wit ha thumbr twilight ripoff. Also raking locks will get you past shitty low end door/pad locks the quickest. Pin dislocation for more high end stuff but this takes more time depending on how practiced you are. Bolt cutters for pad locks. Cutting power will ether lock electronic locks in place or open them depending on the design. Hotel lock doors open during a power outage. Magnetic card locks are easy to clone on the go with a decent reader/writer and a laptop. I hope you get Robert Pattinson to play your gay vampire character.
>>926453 Come on if op was a proper nigger he wouldn't be asking how to do it discreetly, he would do the usual and just chimp out, ripping the bike from the lock and breaking it in the process. But never mind because you can still sell the wheels and the frame as scrap.
>>926455 Stick to /b/ if you want to ask about stealing bikes kiddo.
>>926462 Forgot to mention. old school ward locks used on some older offices. These can be opened with a skeleton key. easy to make out of a sheet of aluminium. Still present in most hospitals and pharmacies for offices that don't hold drugs and stuff. These are in place really just so patients don't wonder in when doctors have their brakes.
>>926448 It takes time. The only real advantage to lock picking is it isn't as conspicuous as breaking a window, and even then there's a balance between how fast you want to do it and how much evidence of your break in you want to leave. Raking the pins is relatively fast and easy to do but it scratches the pins leaving a ton of forensic evidence, while single pin picking is a lot slower and skill intensive but doesn't leave as much obvious scarring.
If you're stealing shit you probably value your time more than how much of a mess you make, lock picking is more for when you have a legit reason for preserving the lock.
Really if you want to break into something, find the weakest link. >>926458 is a good example, classic foot in door tactics can get you places.
>>926462 >Hotel lock doors open during a power outage This is not true.
They're battery-powered, with the batteries on the outside so you can't get locked out. If they were mains powered, there'd be a mains cable running to them, and there isn't.
The keycards are signed with a private key corresponding to a public key burned into the lock, and contain the number of the lock they open, and a sequence number.
The lock will only open for a key that: - has the right signature - has the right lock number - has a sequence number equal or greater to the highest the lock has seen
Modern locks, taking the battery out doesn't reset the sequence, because it's stored in flash. Older locks go into a panic mode and need to see a key marked with "I know your battery went out, this is the sequence number".
Because of the sequence numbers, the guy that had your room yesterday can't get in your room today. Because of the public-key encryption, no-one can use their card to make other cards.
You want to make a shimproof padlock, all you do is use ball bearings instead of a springloaded catch, and a rotating cylinder with cutouts instead of catch-retractors.
You cannot shim this design. Period.
You can't shim it because whilst the lock is locked, there's nowhere for the shim to push the balls into. It's not a matter of using the right shim: simple physics prevents any shim from ever working.
So why don't all locks do this? Because with this design, you need the key to shut it as well as to open it. You can't just click it onto things. The lock has to be either key-retaining or have a cutout in the bolt so you can lock it open.
>>926484 I have literally cloned magnetic cards for my building main door. The land lord gave me 1 and wanted an insane amount of money for more of them. So much so that I got a reader/writer and a stack of cards and made my own copies. and it still cost me less than what the greedy faggot wanted Yeah super high security lock have asymmetric encryption, but most of these locks are placed on shitty main doors that get a lot of use and ware like bathrooms and hall doors. Since people don't want to replace the mechanism every time someone forces a wrong key in. The hotel thing happened to me in a cheap ass hotel, better ones have better systems I'm sure.
>>926448 You can get a lock pick kit very cheap nowadays so I would reconnection you try it a few thousand times. At first is hard just like anything else but at Hackathons they have speed races at lockpicking so it can be done very fast. Knowing the type of lock makes it easier to know what to do.
>>926448 Pretty easy on used locks. If a lock is used every day for a month or more, its stupid easy to rake it open. Also, deadbolts are easier, they usually turn the same way, and you don't have to worry about turning the handle with the cylinder.
I was showing my boss at work how easy it was. The first time, I walked him through it slow, it took about a minute. When I did it for real after that, it took 7 seconds.
I can usually get in a used dead bolt well under 30 seconds.
Granted, these probably aren't high security locks, but one was at the factory I worked at, the others have been at my university.
>>926448 A while i bought a lockpicking set. I have been messing around with some padlocks, but desu i have not been able to open a single one. This is of course because i am terrible at it, but unless you are either really lucky or really skilled then no, you cant open a lock in 3 seconds. And if you are able to do it then we are talking about raking, rocking or bumbing. Not single pin picking.
>>926633 What You have in mind is "raking" lever lockpick - these things work well if You want to pick up a lock from the wood shed or some shitty home, but they wouldn't work against better locks. Also - they way they open the locks is somewhat risky because of the raking motion they perform which may cause lockpick to break and stay inside a lock.
Can confirm that shit works. I've entered several buildings for differing reasons by any number of test-the-idiot methods.
1) Pretending you can't find your badge/keycard, Wait for someone to walk to the door as your rummaging through your bag/pockets/wallet, let them open the door then say "ah, thanks!" or similar. Got into a residential flat through three different locked doors by this method. 2) Just walk in with a group and pretend your going somewhere. This actually works, if nobody pays you any attention. Gained access to some meetings this way. 3) High-visibility. Wear a hard-hat, high-vis jacket and you can walk into just about anywhere. Bonus points for carrying a clipboard, toolkit, being on your phone, or having a bogus ID for a company. Entered a few industrial locations dressed in work gear and never got challenged. If you encounter a locked door you need to get through, talk into your phone until someone comes through and then just walk through like you've been waiting or something.
Seriously, most people don't give shit one or are just too busy to notice. If you get challenged on it, hand over a fake business card proporting to be a security expert testing their security, tell them to give you a call and you'll talk them through how they did. Then walk away. Fast. Luckily I never got challenged doing these things though, always kept an eye on the people around me to make sure nobody was looking keen and bushy eyed when i went through a door.
Well they're kinda hard to conceal due to how distinct they are, but they're pretty damn fast. They smack the pins and bounce the underlying springs to free the lock using the same fundamental principle behind key bumping.
>>927060 Yeah there's that, but I think that's fiction being fiction.
This being SC, a franchise where the NSA has secret agents armed with gadgets that'd probably be at home in Daniel Craig era James Bond. The explosive lockpick straddles the line between making sense and being questionably bullshit as to whether or not it really works.
Besides if you have access to the materials needed to try and make an exploding pick, you could probably just make a breaching charge instead and blow a hole through the door.
Locks from 200 years ago, follow similar methods, but won't be as difficult. I.e le retro cuck skeleton key necklace le fashion.
Whatever diy tells you, adjust for the age and level of sofistication. Hands on experience helps, but if youre writing in the past, you can call an old locksmith. Just call a business with a decent history, ask for any old timers and explain what your doing and that you need to understand how it was done × years ago. Worked wonders when I needed to write about blowing a 60 year old pioneer furnace. Also, pay the guy for his time. Don't be a dick.
>>926448 got a lock picking set a little while ago and have been trying to pick locks around the house Managed to pick one of those small padlocks in a matter of seconds just by raking couldnt unlock the door in reasonable time so I just quit Ill try again another time, but I think it just depends on the lock itself
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