>>922797 >>922793 There's a spot near where I live were someone keeps parking a trailer. There's been like 50 owners. All trailers have been flooded. It never ends.
Another house upriver was built 1 foot above the river bank and 15 feet from the river bank on the outside of a turn int he river bank. When it floods (2-3 times a year), half the 1st story is flooded. The bottom half of the house, the entire 1st floor, is all made of block. They were using it until it flooded like the 3rd time. Now they only use the 2nd story. They've lost 3 vehicles as well because the parking lot is ground level with the river bank and between the house and river. The house has been there for about 10 years or so now.
People are just fucking retarded and don't take time to think.
>>922793 Bongoland (North) resident 'ere - the definiton of an 'flood prone' area appears expanding faster than you could map it, nevermind banning existing (or new) building on such. If based on historical rainfall/river height measurements, etc. - the existing records are being demolished by the minute, and there is no valid basis whatsoever for judging whats gonna be underwater next, other than guesswork.
You cannot 'ban new building' in the centre of Leeds and Manchester, for example - but these, along with basically anything near a river, are the new 'flood prone' - end result, no-one will insure aginst the risk, so nobody will buy, so no-one will build, etc. End of the day, the market shall resolve, and this certainly fucking quicker than the Gub'ment will act in any manner, positive or otherwise.
>>922793 >flood prone areas i remember when the somerset levels flooded everyone was surprised that a floodplain suddenly became wet.
>>922806 i live near a few places that have been flooded recently. all the new homeowners and even some of the older adults are all surprised when the rivers burst banks, but you talk to any of the coffin dodgers and they will tell you its happened a few times in their lifetime and they were told stories of it happening before they were born. we are just idiots.
>>922786 We' fukin bri'ish ya cun' fuks i' goa do we you?
But yeah I agree anon, there are some fucking retards who live here in the UK I hate the people and their idiotic ways and moral lives, fucking stupid. But I love the country for it's land and most freedoms. Every time we move house we always think of "will it flood" fuck, we even lived in a bungalow that was on the riverside, i mean the river belonged to use, a 300 meter stretch of it, the house flood? no because we did our research.
Why buy a house that's going to flood and with shit surrounding flood defences and pay stupid insurance? Fucking cunts.
>>922836 No that's a bridge built centuries ago, you are retarded for bringing that up when most the thread is about houses and peoples homes being flooded, what the fuck has that got to do with a bridge?
>>922849 >Not know for flooding >Next to a river >down steam from a river >in a hollow >on flat ground >stopped dredging rivers >government cuts on flood defence >building on flood plain I cant see into the future and i'm no fucking expert with any numbers or plans at my disposal but these are the things I would look at before building or buying a house.
>>922786 >Am I missing something? Yes. 'Waterproof' is not anywhere as easy as you seem to think it is, considering the *entire building* would have to be built that way, too. You'd basically be building a boat.
>>922797 Flood plains are very fertile, its a conundrum for the ages. Best bet is build a mound and then live on that. The other option is build a levee, but when the levee breaks, have no place to go...dooo da looo do do,
We don't have any land left to build on in Britain that isn't flood plain. We put sand bags at our doors, I assume that means the water doesn't just go through the bricks... What would be so difficult about dual sealing windows and doors, or just a system where you screw down metal plates to a frame in front of the door.
- yeah, but houses are, by definition, for the most part, 'watertight' anyway - pic related (and no, idk why shes merrily cleaning windows in midst of a fucking deluge either)
The argument is maybe better phrased, how much more hassle would it be to make houses (at least, temporarily) 'more watertight' (blocking airbricks/vents, submarine doors, etc). The issue then, of course, being, you are merely relocating the problem elsewhere, but, if it was your property at risk? who GAF, can all be happily someone elses problem, pref. some distance downstream.
>>922917 holy shit there is no way those windows are happy. i would be nowhere near those windows like fair enough but that must be a lot of force on those windows from that water. yes glass is strong but i doubt the frame and mount were designed for that kind of thing.
>>922912 You fucking idiot there is loadsa room left in Britbong land, just because there is none where you live doesn't mean there isn't any anywhere else, they are building a 3 huge estates around my nearest town and and there's planning for another 5 estates with each estate having around 500 houses.
Luckily I live on a conservation area. and closer to the Peak District. Fuck you cunts who live in citys and towns
If you live anyplace long enough you'll eventually run into bad shit. The US and Canadian prairies were destroyed in the 1930's by dust storms- if people had just given up and GTFO at that point we wouldn't now have the most productive agricultural region in the world.
>>922917 >- yeah, but houses are, by definition, for the most part, 'watertight' anyway
First off, the definition of "house" has nothing to do with watertight. Most houses have elaborate systems of gutters specifically designed to direct water away from the house because it's not watertight.
Relatively new masonry construction with relatively modern windows might be pretty darn water resistant, but the majority of housing contains a significant amount of wood framing that's nowhere near watertight due to the expansion and contraction of wood over time. Throw in the fact that any foundation over 10 years old is likely to have a crack or two (or many more, depending on age) and what this means is that very few structures are capable of withstanding the kind of water load in your pic while staying totally dry.
As a matter of fact, your pic doesn't show the floor of that room or the basement of the structure, both of which are likely covered in water.
I did not say the new estates where being built on farm land, two are being build on fields that have not been used for the 20 years i've known them, one did have a football pitch on but no-one used it only to walk their dogs on. One is being build on a huge piece of waste land that's been untouched for at least 5 years. Three of the largest ones are being built on huge fields that have also not been farmed for as long as i've been alive and another new small estate being build on the site of an old hospital, which has only just been knocked down after laying derelict for 30 years.
I live on the boarder of the Peak District, i'de sooner see farms, animals, wild deer running around the land rather than new housing estates to house dole scum like yourself probably and fucking migrants.
>>923090 Also what part of >Luckily I live on a conservation area. and closer to the Peak District. Fuck you cunts who live in citys and towns made you think I like building on farm land? It clearly says I live in the countryside and I hate towns. Read and think before you type.
>>922786 black forest valley dweller here. Houses near the little river that turns into a maelstroem of dirt and wild water about every 12 years, owners will fill cellar and groundfloor with clean water before the flood hits, to counter the outside water pressure and keep out all that nasty sand, loam, twings, grass, gravel, oil, corpses, fishishes, snails, crap, oil, etc... Of course sandbags and floodwalls in front of doors and low windows. last time the newer concrete (1970ies) bridges swam away, only the medival massive stone arc bridges withstood, with water shooting over the bridges like a surfers dream wave. why not build somewhere else? well its a narrow valley with steep mountain sides, so...
>>922786 turns out foundations and walls are not hermetically sealed. would be cose to have a house that was like a vacuum glass thermos. water would just rise out of any small crack in the floor or wall.
>>922786 hydrostatic pressure. (hī'drə-stāt'ĭk) The pressure exerted by a fluid at equilibrium at a given point within the fluid, due to the force of gravity. Hydrostatic pressure increases in proportion to depth measured from the surface because of the increasing weight of fluid exerting downward force from above. Also I think it was noted water will come up the drains.
My goddamn home is built directly on rock and has two lines of concrete blocks as foundation covered in glassfiber to make it basically waterproof, I'm on a mountain, big storms do not even get over here... problems 'muricans?
All of the rich, smart homeowners in Calgary during the 2013 flood bought giant sump pumps to keep the water out of their basements. Unfortunately for them, the world watched on as their foundations imploded from the water pressure (as stated above). Those who moved their shit out of the basement on a moments notice are now back in their homes, and said shit has been restored in it's respective place.
BTW, I was hearing that this shitstorm was going to hit you britfags last week. Same storm caused tornados in Texas, winter storms up the eastern NA seaboard, Shitnami Hurricane in Sunnyvale Trailerpark, and now flooding in Limey McGooberland. No excuse for losing belongings to floodwater.
>>923235 >If watertight ships would be airtight they could not sink from tipping ovee. Unsinkable, self-righting ships are pretty expensive, coastal live savers use them.
Check out Finn-Baltic, a ship that turned around and didn't sink. Two crew members were rescued from the wreck by cutting a hole in the bottom. Of course ships do leak water, bilge pumps are also a thing.
Then get some wooden boards with a plastic lining to seal the bottom few feet of your doorways. Just low enough so that they can still be stepped over (or have a step on either side) Insulate them so they are waterproof as well.
Flood waters come in, the inside of your house is safe. Your shit is preserved.
If the flood waters rise up to the fucking windows though, you should be thinking evacuation rather than "how to I turn my house into a boat"
Unless of course, your evacuation plan IS to turn your house into a boat. Then I'd recommend preparing for it BEFORE the flood season.
>>922786 Why not do what us Florida folks do: build on short-stilts and disguise them as foundations? Or simply make the ground floor the car garage and then the first floor the home? that way you get 8 feet of water clearance?
>>924286 >i don't get it.. it's not rocket sience.. - no, buts its Britain. What you are suggesting requires plannning, foresight, a positive approach and co-operation by all involved for the greater good. Us natives of Bongonia, we'd rather drown than learn anything from damned furreigners who may or may not have been successfully coping with water management for x-hundred years, etc.
>>923160 I live in Detroit, in the last 10 years Tornadoes, 2 years ago an entire town was flattened by 1 We actually had out biggest earthquake ever not long ago, it wasn't bad, but skyscrapers were shaking. We had 3 major floods, a 4 mile stretch of freeway was full of abandoned vehicles for over a week We've been touched by the outer band of 2 tropical storms that made landfall.
And we're not even a bad spot for any of those things, just really hot summers and really cold winters. Our highest last summer was around 105, and our lowest the winter before was around -32. About 70 years ago we had an ice storm that was so powerful that it was laying enough ice on buildings that it toppled some small houses.
Bad weather is something that happens everywhere, maybe not as frequently in some places, but it only takes one bad instance to destroy your house
>>924365 American's don't believe in floor 0, or ground floor, we start counting things at 1. So a one story house has a first floor. in europe, a house that has a single story has... 2 floors? because it has floor 0 and floor 1? yeah, that works the way we count things. Also, common for old buildings in the states to skip 13 when numbering floors because muh bad luck.
Also, >>923856 is right, a sealed house is likely to be pushed over, whereas one filled with water will be more resistant to the pressure.
And >>923232 is probably more to keep the foundation walls from buckling.
>>922894 I've lived in Tulsa, OK my whole life. Tornado alley as its called. Damaging tornados are so rare its really a non-issue. All we do is go outside and drink a beer while we watch the skies.
It's actually really fucking cool. Everything gets calm, rain stops, the wind dies down (until you've got a tornado nearby), there's a yellow-green tint to everything, and a smell I can't really describe in the air.
Pic isn't mine but it shows the color pre-tornado.
>>924643 I can verify all of this. One thing further is that after the wind dies down, if you've got one nearby the wind will actually REVERSE direction. When that happens, your ass is toast. That freight train sound is everything airborne: your neighbors house, cars, everything. St. Louisan here, I've seen two in my life, and never ever want to see another.
>>925904 Their system has a strong focus on education as well. Sure could use that focus across the Atlantic. I'm interested in how they will deal with rising sea levels, should it be as bad or worse than predicted. Personally I believe they can pull it off and figure something out, but it will be interesting.
>>925628 Me too. Maybe some minor floodings every ten years because there's a bit strange climate because of territory formation that causes a year's rain in a single day every autumn but nothing destructive at all
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