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I found this very old, "K7" jointer type plane at an antique store for $20.

I bought it because even though it looked unsalvageable and rusty, I saw that the quality of the machining on it was significantly better than the vintage Stanley Bailey No. 4 and No. 5 planes that I have seen.

First job was to take it apart and get rid of the rust.
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The lever cap is broken. I have a spare No. 5 cap though. Even though it's 2" wide as opposed to 2 3/8" I think the smaller cap will work just fine.

The blade and chipbreaker are just too far gone man. I ordered a Veritas replacement set from Lee Valley, made from PM-V11 steel. The cost of the blade is 4x more than the rest of the plane.
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>>1139854
you didn't bother looking before you bought it?
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I started taking it apart and started chucking the pieces in the dishwasher to get rid of all the crud on the parts. When I uncscrewed the frog I was surprised to see that the frog and plane bases were machined flat, with grooves and a step machined into them so that the two pieces make a solid fit. Much much better than the Stanleys I have. I think this plane is an ancient ripoff of the Stanley Bedrock-series plane.
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>>1139856
I knew I wanted to replace the blade before I bought it.
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I put the small parts and frog into a container full of Evaporust.
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Frog and some screws n shit out of the Evaporust, sprayed down with some WD-40.
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I didn't have the right size container for the plane body, nor did I have enough to fully immerse the plane in the Evaporust anyways. I had the bright idea of stuffing the plane with paper towels and wrapping it in saran wrap.

This was a complete failure because the evaporust leaked out and made a mess. I'm going to go out and buy a gallon jug of Evaporust and try this again, but this time, immersing the plane body completely.
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>>1139873
Get some thick plastic sheeting and make a little container that is just bigger than the plane itself. You can use much less Evaporust that way. It's great for odd shaped items. Just make a basic frame out of boards or bricks or something, place the plastic inside the frame, and fill it up.
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>>1139873
>>1139914
I would fill the container with heavy beads to use less liquid. Like the fast food restaurants do with ice and fountain drinks.
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>>1139915
>>1139914
I just came back from Home Depot and they didn't have Evapo-rust but a different rust remover that I didn't quite trust. I'm tired of how expensive these products are.

Project has been put on hiatus until I find a suitable power source to run an electrolysis tank. I don't have an old car battery charger or a spare PC power supply. Does anyone have suggestions?
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>>1139936
Harbor Freight carries Evaporust. Find a 20% off coupon, they are super common.

You might also look into citric acid. It's very easy to get a hold of, pretty cheap, non-toxic and works moderately well. Not as well as Evaporust but your plane isn't that badly rusted.
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>>1139859
>started chucking the pieces in the dishwasher to get rid of all the crud on the parts

This statement reveals you're not qualified to restore this plane...
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>>1139941
Thanks fucko.
>>>/out/
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>>1139941
I didn't put the totes in the dishwasher.

There really isn't any metal part that would be harmed by a quick run through the dishwasher.
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>>1139852
Paul Sellers will tell you all you need to know.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RYyV6IUpsYk
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>>1139859
>>1139943
>>1139977

Never mind that your dishwasher has a filter on it, have you cleaned that out since you ran a batch of ancient assed, crudded up plane parts through it? When it breaks down and shits all the water from a cycle out onto your kitchen floor will you get the point then?

Now. Tubalcain, mrpete222, whatever you want to call him just did a three part series on rust removal. What I took from it is that all the methods he tried worked, some too well. He didn't try the dishwasher method though, can't speak to that.
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I wanna see it finished. Please provide pics.
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>>1139936
Do you have a spare laptop charger?
I'm sure the difference is just that it will take longer.
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>>1140021
>look him up
>taking videos of printed paper
Is this guy for real?
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>>1140232
Last night I sprayed the whole plane with stripper, which melted off the black paint.
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I also sprayed the underside with stripper, but even that didn't get rid of all the crap stuck in the corrugations. I had to use a wire wheel to clean them out and the pitting within the corrugations was tremendous. I think I will prime and spray the entire sole of the plane with enamel, then remove the paint from the flat surfaces with sandpaper, only to prevent more corrosion from appearing in the corrugations.

It seems like the corrugations mostly serve to get filled with sawdust and tree resin and get corroded. Paint won't interfere with the function (present less surface area and friction to the wood) but will prevent corrosion from screwing with the plane later.
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Minutes ago I sprinkled Bar Keepers Friend all over the plane, then used a wet sponge to make a rust killing paste over every surface of the plane.

I wanted to avoid using acids to minimize etching but 20 minutes or so won't harm it.

As soon as I am done scrubbing I will dry it off and prime the interior surfaces of the plane.
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Getting there...
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Rinsed, dried, and masked.
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Pretty catchy eh?
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>>1140403
>white

What the hell man
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>>1140403

Painted your plane... There's a special place in hell for people like you.
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>>1140421
lol

>>1140425
I'm repainting it. The old paint was in bad shape.
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>>1140448
They don't use paint on old Stanley planes. They were "Japanned". It was a lacquer or varnish, depending on the recipe.
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>>1140451
Yes, I'm aware they used a special asphalt-based paint called "japanning" that was well-suited to mass production.

I'm sure Rustoleum will take its place just fine, which is to prevent the interior of the plane from corrosion.
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>>1140451
Ah. This is one of these threads. Welp, I'm out. Hiding thread. Sage in every field, etc., etc.
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I also restored an old plane like 4 days ago. will post before and after.

This was how it was when I was given it
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and here's what it looks like now. Yes, I am aware that there are still marks on the lever cap.

I do feel bad that OP's plane was so fucked up, and that he payed that much for such a fucked up plane. Also why the fuck did he paint it white

If someone asked for more images of before or after I will deliver.
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>>1140549
>>1140551
You did a much better job mah man.
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>>1139852
me again, I only just realised you insulted the No 4 and 5 stanleys. Fuck you dude. K7 will never be remembered as much as Stanley for a reason.

And correct, this is a number 5.
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>>1140574
Nice job on that plane but no, sorry. Your waifu will never be as special as my bedrock K7. You can't even throw a rock without hitting some old Bailey.
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>>1140582
>You can't even throw a rock without hitting some old bailey

What did he mean by this?
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>>1140582
Btw here is my Bailey No. 5, before
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And today.

Btw guys, I'm not painting the plane white. That's just primer.
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>>1140583
They're ubiquitous and long lived.
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>>1140609
Yeah, the guys that thought this are retarded and didn't pay attention to the fact that you said you were PRIMING then painting.
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>>1140551
Bought a plane in about the same state as yours, admittedly for 50 yuroshekels. it works like a charm, althought i didn't get the cutting iron to be perfectly square
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>>1139852

>Not just buying the Festool™

Poorfag detected
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>>1140740
>his planer has under 15 HP

lmao git gud
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>>1140740
Absolutely disgusting. I bet the finish quality it leaves isn't worthy of the cost of the kreg screws used to put it together
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Why the fuck would you risk your life flying in a $20 plane?
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>>1140739
damn... I guess I am lucky then. My dad gave me the one in the photo >>1140549
along with a bunch of other really old tools as a sort of moving out farewell gift.
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First coat

Damn this stuff is black as FUG

I'll be back in 30 min for second coat, yes I know I missed some spots.
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It's sooo sooo vibrantly black.
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>>1140837
>>1140858
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>>1140801
>damn... I guess I am lucky then. My dad gave me the one in the photo >>1140549
>along with a bunch of other really old tools as a sort of moving out farewell gift.
you jeast earned yourself my eternal hatred
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>>1140609
>>1140551
what's better the made in USA or made in England baileys?

t. Seen lot of both
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Took off the masking tape and sanded the side a bit to give the cast iron a nice clean look.

I won't flatten because 1. it's already almost totally flat and 2. I haven't received my new blade and chipbreaker in the mail yet and 3. flattening is pointless.

Seriously. Flattening a plane is a waste of time.
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>>1141413

>Store-bought black and decker piece of shit """workbench"""

Kek what a loser
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>>1141413
Not half bad.
What are you using that granite block for?
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>>1141461
Sharpening stuff mostly.
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>>1141474
You glue sandpaper on it?
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>>1141477
google "scary sharp"
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Does anyone have any innovative solutions on how to fix this?

Here's the current plan.

Clean the mating surfaces with alcohol
Apply epoxy and clamp together
Drill two 1/4" holes from the bottom piece up through into the top piece, insert dowels and glue
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>>1141570

Theres a screw that will run down the shaft of the tote anyways, so I think your 'over thinking' your issue...

Simple PVA glue...white wood glue, clamp it together, leave it to cure...clean it up and it's done...
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>>1141239
UK. Every time.

>I am poster of english one
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>>1141575
Wood glue won't work. There is glue residue from failed previous repairs.
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>>1141570
>>1141827
You could make a new one, out of wood.
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>>1141570
uzr8i7föi
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>>1141570
There are a few dozen websites. Google "fixing Stanley tote"
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>>1142070
Jorgensen clamp works best BTW.
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>>1141828
I think I'll do that, and turn a new knob, just to give the plane a fresh new look.

What should I go with? I have bits and pieces of all sorts of domestic and exotic woods.

Purpleheart, walnut, hard maple, padauk?
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>>1140799
Your joke won't go unnoticed, I thought it was funny. I mean, I didn't laugh, but I'm glad I read it.
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>>1142550

Thanks, desu. I've been eagerly waiting for (you)s.
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I got my blade in the mail today.

Made by fucking leafs of outstanding quality, this makes the blade on any vintage plane look like toys. The only problem is that the thickness of the blade assembly forces me to move the frog back to the point where the blade makes contact with the bottom edge of the mouth. Unfortunately I think I have no choice but to take a file to the mouth. Not that big a deal.

I just need to make my new handles. I want to use purpleheart or padauk to give it some pizzaz nahmsayin?

Help me choose, guys.
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>>1142823
>blade
>blade
>blade
>blade

It's called an 'iron' in reference to hand planes. Why? Well, it's kind of like how they are called 'runs' in baseball instead of points. Because it has always been that way.

> The only problem is that the thickness of the blade assembly forces me to move the frog back to the point where the blade makes contact with the bottom edge of the mouth.

Then you either bought the wrong part or you installed it incorrectly.

>Unfortunately I think I have no choice but to take a file to the mouth

The old saying goes; if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
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Bump, just to keep this thread alive until I make the knob and tote.

I got bored of the black and I'm thinking I'm going to paint the plane forest green.
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>>1144233
OP you're a degenerate cuck. Go buy a fucking plane like any normal person who needs a plane would do.
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