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The Great X-Men Storytime - Vol. 5: Fall of the Mutants (Part 16)

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Finally, some time to storytime some comiX, Jesus H.

PREVIOUSLY ON X-MEN:
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So this comic's nice and all but can we talk about the best movie of 2017 so far for a second here?
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Is Gosamyr bona fide waifubait or what?
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there's like a lot of slavery in this era and in xmen space...
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This reminds me how rare relationships where the woman is older are in media in general, whether it's movies, comics or whatever.

And no, I'm not talking about /ss/ shit, ya filthy animals
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I really do wonder how they'll handle muh X-Babbies in the movies.
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Bobby going full /pol/ here.
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>>94836016
But X-Anon /ss/ is the best!

You are right though. I do wish there was more older woman/younger man stuff around. It isn't exactly a common relationship.

BTW what movie were you talking about?
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SPACE COCAINE
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>>94836086
Baby Driver!
Can I interest you in the work of our Lord and Savior, Edgar Wright?
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It's hilarious how people are pretty much used to crazy shit happening in a Lila Cheney concert.
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We're a few years off from it, I was just reading in Marvel Comics: The Untold Story about Wheezy Simonson getting fucked off this book by Liefeld.

Nicieza:
>Rob had a million ideas, and no filter, and no maturity to know how to best present those ideas. So he started to flood ideas to the point where, I guess it was starting to choke Louise's ability to create the book. He wanted it to be muscle and power-- and she wanted it to be about kids growing up. And those two things are hard to reconcile.

Louise, on Bob Harras:
>He would change plots, and blame it on the artist. He would change dialogue, and then say, 'I'm sorry, but I tried to call you and you weren't home' or 'I'll be sure and tell you the next time.' He would change some of the dialogue, but not other parts, so the things people said wouldn't make sense. It was his way of letting you know he was wishing you'd go away.

It's crazy how Liefeld and especially McFarlane would just draw whatever and leave it to the writers to make sense of it. McFarlane said something like "you could print an issue of my art with no dialogue and no story and the kids would love it". Guy was always talking about "the kids" like they were some mindless money producing hens.
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welcome back X-Anon.
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>>94836205
Ah, I actually watched that one. I have to say, I liked it.

Have you enjoyed the best FX series of this year so far?
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>>94836266
Man, I still gotta find some time to read that book.
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>>94836293
At this rate you guys are going to have to welcome me back in every storytime I do kek
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>>94836302
I like to binge watch series so I was waiting for the first season to be over, but I haven't found the time yet, to my everlasting shame
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>>94836266
Jesus fuck. It must have sucked complete ass having those guys on. Liefeld just sounds like an immature brat and McFarlane sounds like a egomaniac, which if his team on Spawn has told us anything, is probably true.
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>>94836427
I was referring to Legion. I am pretty sure it is over.
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>>94836479
McFarlane has scared so much talent away from Spawn it's impressive.
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>>94836542
Yeah, I know, they're making a second season tho.
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>>94836546
The biggest problem is that he refuses to let anyone else take credit for doing anything. He has to be the one who controls Spawn, but unfortunately, McFarlane is a bad writer. I am not trying to insult him, but it's true. He has no idea about what makes a story work. He's an artist, and if I am going to be honest, I think his art along with Liefeld's sums up everything wrong with the 90s

>>94836569
Yeah, that's true. I am quite sad actually there wasn't that many threads about it.
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'Berto thinking with his dick while the girls are having none of it.
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>>94836630
It's funny, because the only reason Spawn is still going is because he wants to outlast Cerebus.

>Yeah, that's true. I am quite sad actually there wasn't that many threads about it.
The best things rarely get the appreciation they deserve until it's too late.
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>>94836391
did S'ym have sex with Magik?
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>>94836723
Geez, I sure hope not, brrr.
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Gosamyr is an underrated waifu. Did she ever do anything outside of this story arc?
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>>94836763
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>>94836835
Yuck.
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>>94836800
She stuck around for a little while but eventually she went back to space and hasn't been seen since.
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>>94836930
Maybe Duggann could introduce her and her planet back with his Guardians. I mean he does seem to love the X-Lore quite a bit.
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You're sounding like some shitty anime MC right there, Bobby.
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>>94837091
Is his Guardians any good? I really don't like the movies and anything that tries too hard to emulate them and I'm not even a DnAfag
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>>94837184
His guardians is better than Bendis' and he certainly seems to be gearing up to something. As for emulating the movies, it seems to be straying away from them as much as editorial will allow. I think he has also managed to get the characters closer to their original interpretation which is nice.
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Kinda gay desu
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>>94837297
I think you summed up all of Claremont's era on X-Men and comics as a whole. Everything was kinda gay.

And I fucking loved it
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Pffftt, what is this, Prince Valiant?
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>>94837339
Damn straight
Or should I say, damn gay?
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>MUTANT ANGST
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>>94835881
>So this comic's nice and all but can we talk about the best movie of 2017 so far for a second here?
Alien: Covenant?
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>>94837464
Is it just me, or could you read New Mutants with the interpretation that Dani had a crush on Rahne?
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>>94837518
Senpai pls
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>>94837540
This arc is oddly ship-y, for some reason.
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>>94837602
I am just amazed how much shit they got away with to be quite honest.
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>>94837626
Marvel gave no fucks back then
Fuck nuMarvel
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Anyway, anything good in the Marvel solicitations? Haha, why do I bother asking
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>>94837656
I think the biggest problem with Marvel at the moment goes a bit beyond their politics, as they have always been quite liberal (Although I won't deny it is a bit of a tone off for some books). It's the fact that the books don't really have an identity of their own any more. Originally, every book had a theme and an idea both connected to the heroes and the villains.

While some like Alan Moore and Claremont reimagined certain heroes, there was always a limit on the stories as well as a connection, thematically between the old books and the re-imagined ones, beyond the cast of characters. Now it just seems that books are trying to tell all the stories without worrying how it fits in with the character's established history and themes.
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>AT-AT-AT-AT
>literally transforms into an AT-AT
Fucking Star Wars, man.
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>>94837818
The Ultimates were good and I am definitely buying the trades, same with USAvengers Along with Royals and Black Bolt. Duggan's work is proving to be good. Renew your vows proves to be the best Spidey book. Hulk and Gwenpool are fun books, for the most part. It's just the X and Bendis books which are shit. Gold is a retread of old stuff where Kitty proves that she is a shit teacher and ineffective leader. Gen X is just wasted potential. Blue is just Marvel desperately trying to get us liking the O5 and failing as we want our New Mutants Academy of X Kids and Gen X kids back. Astonishing is... well okay so far, but it is Soule. Weapon X I don't know about and I refuse to support Land.

Cable has been good so far though.
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>>94837834
Well, there's that, and the fact that they just plain don't hire the right people for the job, like self-professed "latinx" Gabby Rivera who can't even actually speak goddamn Spanish. Christ.
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>>94837983
>It's just the X and Bendis books which are shit
Yeah, but, y'know, I AM an X-fag. Really couldn't care less if, like, Iron Man is good or whatever if muh muties are still being treated like shit.

And of course, if I wanted to check out other characters I dig, I'm pretty screwed too (Daredevil is still under goddamn Soule, Novas got shitcanned, dunno about Iron Fist tho)
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What the fuck
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>>94836391
I miss the good old days when 15 year old girls and boys were allowed to change clothes in front of each other without it being weird.
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>>94838002
Amen. They need to do three things. Have a high standard of writing from people who care about the characters. Have an editorial which cares about continuity and will call out mistakes. Allow ideas which don't boom immediately to sell for a while. I mean, there was reason that the DnA cosmic era was allowed to be so great.

>>94838079
The funny part is that the books where Muties are being treated the best is Avengers books. Which is quite sad. Yeah, I will agree Daredevil is so shit at the moment. I mean Matt's an atheist now? Why?

Novas, well, it seems like Marvel is debating what to do with them, although Duggan looks like he is going to reintroduce Richard into his Guardians and we might some closure from the DnA era's plot points which Bendis abandoned.

>>94838143
I want back my Claremont days where an X-Men being kinda gay (Or full gay like Doug and Warlock) was just accepted and it wasn't made a big deal.
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brb
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>>94836391
>>94836723
>>94838143
I love how creepy it is that S'ym is starring at a bunch of children taking their clothes off. He was creepy as fuck in Magik's first solo comic also, dude is definitely a pedo.
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>>94838305
I would fucking kill to either write or read a Magik solo or a book like Legion's X-Men Legacy where she is the main focus. I mean, with Limbo there is so much shit you can do, in terms of a cast of characters, the stories you can tell and so on.

In fact, I think she is in my type 6 X-Characters who I'd kill to have a book revolving around.

If anyone is interested the others are Hellion, Elixir, Rightclops, Gaia, Surge and Dani
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Last issue for tonight, anons and anonettes!
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>>94838467
Nice having you back for a while X-Anon. Out of curiosity, how many more issues till the mega is updated?
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>>94838520
Only a couple of storytimes! Thanks for being patient with my lazy ass.
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>>94838557
Hey, you do better work then most. I don't see why we can't be patient with you.
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>>94838574
Aw shucks, thanks mang, means a lot.
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>>94838624
I have to say, I fucking love how Magneto goes back to being a villain. Rather than just it being instantaneous like in most comics today, you can see his morality slowly going back to the way it was before due to the attachment he has to the kids.
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Anything good/noteworthy coming out tomorrow?
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>>94838678
Supposedly a new Overwatch animated short.
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>>94838678
Last issue of Stokoe's Aliens comic
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>>94838671
It was kind of a mandate rather than an organic development, but yeah, it can be read that way. I think Weezie knew Mags' headmaster days were numbered.
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>>94838706
I could never get into Overwatch, I suck at shooting stuff.

>>94838711
Oh neat! Orc Stain when ffs
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>>94838745
He talked about Orc Stain briefly. Basically he can't afford to work on it full time. He needs a page rate, when Orc Stain started he was sharing a house with a bunch of indie guys. Now he just lives with his wife who is the artist on Shade the Changing Girl.
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Eww.
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>>94838804
Sucks, man.
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Well, shit.
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>>94835822
He lives
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Well, that's it for today, folks. Come back next time as we get back into X-Factor and edge closer and closer to INFERNO!
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>>94836266
>He wanted it to be muscle and power-- and she wanted it to be about kids growing up.

Rob was right though. The Claremont run was well written and fun. The Liefeld era was dumb but at least stuff was happening. The Simonson era was neither well written nor fun
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>>94836391
>rahne preserves her modesty by hiding inside Warlock


SLUT
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>>94839099
See I disagree dubs man. I honestly enjoy the Simonson era. Mainly because I enjoy the growing up aspects of the New Mutants more than I do the action.
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>>94837540
Absolutely. Personally I prefer to think that

>rahne wouldn't return Dani's affections
>illyana was too screwed up to from killing Cat to make a move on kitty
>therefore Illyana and Dani were experimenting on the side
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>>94839330
I like them growing up but I don't like the way she did it. Claremont did it and did it better. Simonson had to turn Dani and Illyana into boy crazy teens rather than picking up where Claremont left them. Maybe that's because she was writing from her own experiences as a teenager. Illyana should never be shown to be going gaga over some random boy unless you also show her doing it because she is struggling to fit in with the "normal" kids that aren't Hell Lords
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>>94839470
Oh I get that. Don't get me wrong Simonson's run has its flaws with characterization. I still like it though because the kids still felt like that. Kids who were trying to find their place in the world which was better than the black o's bulls hit of Liefeld
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>>94836205

X-Anon you truly are BANANAS.
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>>94840608
ILU anon
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>>94837818
Cable book with Blink Doop Armor Lonshot Shatterstar X23 has Selene as villain and a plot about she draining the life force of externals

Jean has in her solo book a 2 issues story arc of being trapped in Emma's mind

Monet fused with emplate Generation X villain. Husk returns

Perhaps greimalkin or ink or Darwin in gold. and an asian who may be armor or karma. They go to the negative zone.
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>>94842555
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>>94839796
That's what I like best about New Mutants, they aren't superheros just kids being kids and sneaking out of school getting into trouble.
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>>94835881
Baby Driver?
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>>94844041
Yep. I feel that is the best part of New Mutants when they are kids being kids.

See, I don't mind now that they've grown up that they are taking superhero roles as that is what New Mutants was all about. These kids becoming heroes.

It's why I loved New X-Men as well. Because they felt like kids. Like their predecessors they were trying to find their place in the world. However, there was more peril to their situation. Rater than being like the WATXM kids who just went 'meh' to that stuff, those kids were scared. They had no idea what to do and it seemed like the people they turned to once had gone away.

It felt like my bisexual experiences as a teenager. Those kids had no idea what to do and they seemed to in a world that hated the idea of them with no one they could really turn to.
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>>94844279
I just started reading Academy X a couple weeks ago, up to House of M now and really like it. Good throw back to the New Mutants days. Only thing that annoys me is Rahne is a completely different character and acts nothing like she used to.
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>>94844482
Get ready for suffering anon. Also, yeah Rahne really has a hard time in the 2000s and 2010s where she is reduced to canon fodder and a lackey for Emma, Sebastian Shaw and Xorn.
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>>94844643
I realized that when reading Kyle/Yost X-Force, she's not the cute shy little innocent girl she was back in New Mutants.
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>>94844482
That's a screwy book, they really messed up Emma Frost in it and her characterization never recovered.
But the dark turns with the tragic deaths during the attack on the school and Wither's turn to villainy really spice things up compared to the early lighthearted stuff you've read so far.
They really go through Hell in those later stories.
And watch out for Rockslide, he's responsible for Carol Danver's costume change. The bastard.
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>>94844809
Really? I liked Emma in that book. I mean, it was obvious she cared for the kids and that them dying really fucked her up. Oh yeah, the death gets pretty heavy.

> They really go through Hell in those later stories.
You cheeky bastard.
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>>94844801
Ever read that early '90s X-Factor?
The one where Havok is in charge?
There they tried giving Rahne a darker take after the whole Genoshia brainwashed slave thing.
That's where this started.

>>94844834
Emma just was never again as great as Morrison's super-perv "Auntie Emma".
Face it, she's been a faint imitation of herself ever since.
and yes, I am quite a cheeky person when I wish to be
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>>94845225
I liked the Scott/Emma dynamic and did enjoy her being a bit of a bitch. I will admit, her Gen X version is top tier though.
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>>94845309
That was my first taste of Emma Frost.
( other than that time she became Iceman, but she wasn't really herself in that story )
I didn't even know what a Hellion was when Gen X started up. Back then a lot of that subtext flew right over my head. I honestly thought Marvel was just ripping off that Gen 13 comic.
It's very weird that she wakes up from a coma and they hand her a class of mutants just because she helped save them from robot herpes.
Did everyone freakin' forget that she raped Storm? Twice!
It's even more weird that she got so much character development in a book where Jubilee was the main.
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>>94844482

Shaw may also be a lackey of Emma, he had all his memories erased within the last 5 years, and didnt know Emma is controlling Xorn. IIRC He had to learn back about himself from reading files and couldnt believe he was that evil.
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>>94835822
Bup
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Magneto and Emma attack Hydra Steve today, also, Rogue is there in the good guys group fighting Steve.
It looks like either non xmen writers dont know Emma is fully villain (no editors), or they will not make her fully a villain (this happens after XMen Blue)
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boop
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>>94849979
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>>94838606
>Magneto, Master of Magnetism
You mean Master of Magnet?
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>>94850669
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>>94854385
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>>94835822
nigga, please post some X-men Evolution Rogue goods
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>>94856768
What? Do you not know what a storytime is?
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>>94835881
Personal Shopper? Raw? Colossal?
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>>94835881
>>94844195
Seconding.
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