/hyw/ - How's Your Webcomic? #393

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>>94389970
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
calligraphr.com

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on:
https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5oIIPO62g

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

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>>94389970
We are also running our third challenge! Now fortnightly!

>THEME: post apocalyptic - cartoon - animals
>GENRE (options): FREE PICK (choose whatever genre you want on this occasion!)
>DEADLINE: August 13

Remember that you can play with the theme as you see fit, we want to see how creative you can get!

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How much did you draw today anon?

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>>94389398
I tried your Idea, didn't like how the diamonds/bipyramids looked. The circles it is then, thanks for the input.

>>94390538
dont fucking look at me like that i tried ok but i just got distracted, ill draw more tomorrow i swear

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Does anyone have experience doing commissions? I'm low on cash right now and am probably gonna go downtown Union Square in NYC and try to sell some sketches and panels there for $5-15.

>>94390657
>Don't ever talk to me or my daughter again

>>94390538
Inked 4 panels where 2 of them had cars which I have absolutely no experience drawing alright. Adding flat colors right now.

>>94390538
I drew half a panel. I'm so slow and get distracted easily.

>>94390538
I've only just started!

>>94390538
11 seconds of animation...

but now i get to work on my comic!

>>94390538
Narry a pixel.
But I feel more motivated than I have done in 2 years, so that's something.

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i guess i repost it again.

>>94393320
link to comic? i can't find a url on your page at all.

>>94394127
http://character-limit-blog.tumblr.com/

This is a early page. Also beware of the first chapter. I was a noobie.

>>94390657
have a tumblr? post everyday, draw fanart to gain followers, shill your art there, you'll make more than 5 - 15$.

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Hey guys, we managed to get out an early update this week for Boys Land.

http://boysland.thewebcomic.com/archive/#ch_100897

This is the finale to Farm Land. All that's left is the falling action the next two weeks.

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Still looking for someone to write something for me to draw for the weekly challenge. I'm here to disappoint but I'm pretty good with deadlines.

>>94395131
>When people draw little chibi versions of their stuff and it looks exactly like my stuff should look normally, with way better perspective and shapes and emotion and whatnot
Love this. Especially the tail snake eating.
Okay this chapter.. hot damn that's some dynamic movement. and a magic bat.
I appreciate for once a guy that's out of bullets doesn't try to huck his gun at the enemy.
BEING IN COLOR PUNCH! fucking cool. This guy just has the blood of every shounen hero running through his veins doesn't he

hmm, Marco's hair appears to be shorter than it used to be.

>>94395145
You mean like, come up with a script?

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Well I managed to finish the page I promised for today. Sure nobody will check it because it's 10 pm here and everybody who follows me on facebook is sleeping, but hey I kept my word!

I wrote this on Spanish first this time, but still I don't know a lot of police talk in English, any errors I got on these? The joke works?

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>>94395244
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
If you thought this was crazy, just you wait!

Since you mentioned it, show me your art dude. :)
(This is some old art from last year)

>>94395388
You should say "In a rush to get to the beach early, are you?" and "a speeding ticket"
As for the joke, I don't understand at all. Is it that they spend their vacations busting people closer to the beach?
>>94395564
oh you know me. hint: i proofread

>>94395388
I don't get it

>>94395564
His art is pedo trash. He's ColdFusion

>>94395698
>>94395736

I'm not sure how to translate the joke into English on this one, mostly because I don't see many cases of this on American TV in comparison to our local culture. The joke is that they are corrupt cops. They are excited for the vacation period because that means they can stop people for speeding and similar small violations to get bribes. That's why the "give us a little help to help you", that's pretty much what they tell you here.

>>94395757
Ah so it's like vacation for the citizens = hunting season open for the cops

Not sure how you would tweak it maybe I'm just dumb

>>94395757
Ohhh crooked cops. I should have thought of that right away, I know exactly how that is in tacoland and it comes up in several of the webcomics I read made by mexibros.
Well see, now, I could help you get that joke across better, but one aspect that is never quite going to work is the idea that -on their vacation- they can go get bribes, but can't the rest of the time.
unless in the prior panel he was like "you know what that means!" and maybe to hammer it home even more unsubtly the other say "we can stop.." etc.. playing it straight, whatever.
But the logic of it is never going to come across, I think. It doesn't really make sense that crooked cops wait until a designated vacation period to act crookedly.

>>94395756
ColdFusion is actually a pretty good guy who has done nothing wrong and you should stop bullying him, you monster. ColdFusion is a real man, not a beta manlet like you!

>>94395261
Yes

>>94395757
>>94395780
>>94395819
Oh wait, okay, so the joke is that during vacation time, more people commit traffic crimes, meaning more opportunities to pull people over (and thus get bribes) ?? because if that's the gag, then the major issue is the police dispatcher announcing 'our' vacation period.. that's just misleading if it isn't meant to be the actual cops' vacation time (which now that i think of it, would never be a thing)

>>94395780
Yeah exactly that. Is kind of a whole cop thing so that's why they are all "our anticipated vacation period! Have fun!", part of the joke is the misleading bit. They don't get vacations themselves but the citizens do, so anything goes.

>>94395819
Is not that they can't get bribes any other time of the year, but more like on vacation period people get even more careless with the driving rules so they have more prey to hunt.

>>94395862
Yeah that's one part of the joke. The major issue you mention was intentional. The reader thinks is just the cops getting vacations and then going "wait these guys don't get vacations" while they reach the last panel.

>>94395831
Might could try that. If'n I think of something, I'll let you know. This particular one, though, isn't really doing much for me. Only when someone was talking about animal mech pilots did I have any interest, and then only in doing drawings.

>>94395881
Ahhh so the ideal structure of the joke is one of misleading you into thinking it's cop vacation time, and then you realize it is actually everyone else's usual vacation time
The fact that neither of those is really a thing is getting in the way of me helping think of a good way to do that, I'm afraid. but if the third panel had 'ch-ching!' in it, that would help
also I forgot to say you misspelled period

>>94395920
>>94395819

Yeah I noticed the typo on period right after posting it, I fixed it for now.

Ah back to actually making the joke work (?) yeah I think I fucked up by saying "our vacation period" instead of "the vacation period", that would sound more ambiguous and work better I think. I may add some more straight reference to actually getting the bribe if I want this to work on English, again in Spanish it is kinda easier because it's pretty much daily life but seems cops are more regulated on the other side of the border.

>>94395986
What we typically say in (american) english is "Vacation season" if we do say it at all. In british english it'd be something about holiday time I think, that's what they tend to say. here that sounds like it refers to christmas.
But yeah while we may not nearly have your problem with cops and narcos, we do still have a concept of crooked cops, so it should be no problem. Just have them lay on the corruption even thicker, riiight from the start.

actually I thought of a fantastic pun you can use that works in english. to "kick back" is to relax, as you would on vacation, but "kickbacks" are also bribes given to officials (granted that's more of a mayor thing, but still). So you could end one panel with "kickback time!" and it would be misleading slightly

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some concept art for an antagonist for a webcomic I'm working on.

The webcomic in question was originally going to just be just 4-6 panel purely comedic strips, but I suck at writing those and I enjoy writing larger plots much more.

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>>94396053
Kek that pun is actually perfect! It fits really nice on the beginning for the misleading yet keep it kinda straight. Alright I will get to rework these dialogues, thanks for the help!

>>94396087
ooh, we need to get you and Dustin together in the same thread sometime to compare notes.

>>94395145
hey that's a cute mélusine!

>>94396087

You got that idea from spongebob.

>>94396196
Not that guy, but I've never watched spengberb and I know I've seen the idea of an anglerfish-like monster with a lure that works better for intelligent species by looking like something a little more complicated than a worm.. in at least a few different stories. Hell, Futurama had one, didn't it?

>>94396263
oh and then there was that weird cat in adventure time that had small invisible segments of its body and a tongue shaped like a smaller, cuter, more normal cat that he just used to ... well, just to be fucking weird, as I recall.

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>>94395897
I don't love it either, but I'm biased because I'm horrible at drawing anything action-related.

If someone wanted to write some kind of slice-of-life, love story type of thing I would be down. But with a lack of a deadline I'll say it again--I'm here to disappoint.

>>94396350
Something is occurring to me that people in the post-apocalypse might be using cartoons (including the older sense, as in comic strips) to educate themselves about animals that no longer exist.. something funny about a misconception, confusion as to how elephants could have lived on peanuts and how dogs only ate the bones of their prey

>>94396196
I knew the concept was inspired by something else I saw, just didn't remember where it was from.

>>94396167
>dustin

I don't go in these threads very often so I dunno who that is. care to explain?

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polished values, kinda

>>94396407
Guy that draws a comic called Urchin. Takes that kind of cartoon style to an even further extent, and has a lot of neato monsters.

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Alright fixed a bit, I think it is more straight on the whole bribe thing now. I hope using a hyphen doesn't break any rules if it is for a pun's sake.

>>94396440
TRAITOR!

Looking nice so far. I really like your work with the grayscale overall.

>>94396539
A hyphen is the perfect way to do that, actually. It creates the right amount of ambiguity. Some people probably still aren't going to get it, but the only way to make it clearer would be one last bubble at the bottom, the blue guy saying "sweet, sweet kickbacks" or something. and at that point you've kinda put a run in the joke's nylons, so it's probably best to leave it as is

plz be my artist gf

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>>94396400
Get it down to three pages and have it on my desk before the deadline. I can see where it's going... Maybe a grandfather telling his grandchildren about his favorites. Throw in a three-legged dog and I think we've got a tear-jerker.

>>94396588
Thanks! my monitor is screwed up, so I don't actually know if it looks good or not to other people

>>94396539
>VACATIOOOONS!!!

I laughed because it reminded me of my fobby mom. It would probably be better read without the 's'.

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Here's a wip.

Saudra explains what's been currently happening in her life, jack demands a backstory, saudra's about to start but then remembers that she's starved so celest suggests that she could make some- Angel suggests to go out to Burger-O's to eat.

They go, leaving Celest in the dust.

>>94396869
Fair point. This is one of those cases where I have trouble knowing which word can stay as plural in English, since we actually almost never use the singular version of the word. We always say "vacations", in fact I think I have never heard anybody say "vacation".

>>94396869
I don't think that would work quite right, the subtle change in meaning of vacation would no longer really apply to 'people on their way to the beach that we can bust'

>>94396971
I just realized another way you could sort of do it, that might be a hat on a hat at this point
If during the car-leap one was like "look out, vacationers, here we come" and at this point you still think they mean "here we come to join you" and then you realize oh

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>>94397001
>"look out, vacationers, here we come"
>tfw I actually imagined the scenario of them really going on a vacation
>it can only end awkwardly or on a disaster

My poor cops can't be this carefree.

That actually doesn't sound bad for a change instead of using the VACATIONS line I had. I will give it to some test audience (aka friends I can spam my comics to) and see how it all sticks. Thanks for all the help everyone!

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>>94397001
>a hat on a hat

Is this a TF2 reference?!

Joking aside this sounds like an expression that would work wonders there, but I guess it has been done already.

>>94397403
I heard it on mike tyson mysteries, but the analogy kind of speaks for itself. Something superfluous, doing a job that has already been done.

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>>94397001
>>94397266
Alrighty final fix for the night. Seems it really is a hat on a hat, people seemed to like it better with this than with the previous line it had.

Also a friend said I could make the "$" sign I added on "small fee" green just for more money jokes, so I went with it. Subtle though, I don't want to leave anyone bugged with a weird green in the middle of a word balloon.

>>94397607
Excellent. This is working now.
And the best part is, IF the joke were to fail, it would fall the other way, so to speak. Which is good, because it works in that direction. If the reader doesn't ever fall for the conceit that the cops were going to be on vacation themselves, the fact that they're THIS EXCITED to go get some bribes is still both inherently funny and ironically funny as it makes it a sort of vacation for them.
Basically your two-legged joke is now putting more weight on the stronger leg.

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doodling a character that will sometimes appear in the future, trying to get her looks right. I wanted to convey a sense of gentleness and benevolence.

>>94397999
Well her face already gives away that vibe of gentleness. The clothes are very sketchy but I can see it's some kind of robe, which are always good for this characters.

>>94397999
Hit that out of the park. She looks like she leapt right off of a coin.
I have never seen anyone wear that kind of aegis and not be benevolent. You know why? Can't fight in that thing. Even if it was really flexible cloth, it would get in the way of extending your arms forward to hit someone, and it SURE as hell wouldn't be fun or easy to draw the cloth folding. Plus, you'll never have an action figure with that outfit. Nowhere to put the arm joints. That means you have to be a pacifist.

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To anybody hosting their webcomic on tumblr, what is the deal with having pages divided in many pics instead of uploading the whole page as a single pic? Is it because of loading issues or just aesthetics?

>>94398211
because it doesn't show up right on your dash if its not multiple photos, so you have to break it up. you miss the opportunity to grab new readers attention through your readers reblogging. if its one giant image that is shrunken down because of tumblr's shitty image management then people will mostly ignore it.

tfw dewd is better than me at comics and if i make a comic people will probably think i'm a dumb tard on coldfusion's level

>>94398391
It is pretty easy to be better than dewd. Just keep on drawing and learn how to draw legs.

>>94398423
i'm worried about my writing and people disliking me as a person for the most part. my spaghetti is going to make me the most hated person in comics, i'm positive of this.

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>>94398391
You have to be pretty fucking dumb to be as low as CF, if you keep push yourself, practice, and take criticism to heart you're already above him

>>94398471
Just try your best, and have fun with your comic. Maybe someone will like your writing.

And remember to study on your art.

>>94398471
nigga u already know what NOT to be like, just dont be like him

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>>94398498

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corrected some issues, still playing around with it. focusing on the clothing now tho.

>>94399189
Wow, you are so good. I hope you start writing your comic.

>>94399256
already did. I was told to focus my art on a specific style more fit for a younger female audience. so i'm studying korean fashion

>>94399348
oh...

Then link me to your comic.

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>>94399387
its written! not made. I'm pretty close tho, sorry.

>>94399421
i thought you already made a ton of pages?

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>>94399421
There is no forgiveness.

>>94399502
Kinematic touches on a range of delicate subjects such as visually impairedness, unemployment, and Robotics and personal redemption.

I want the readers to feel like they can relate to the story in a personal level with out them feeling like they are being preached to about these issues.

For this reason making the right intro is not easy, specially when it could potentially alienate or loose credibility so easily. I feel this story requires a lot of personal insight and careful consideration.

This is why I'm taking my time. This is project is a reflection of my experiences with my loved ones being legally blind... So please be patient as I too want to make this project come true the right way.

>>94400369
Excuse the typos. Need sleep.

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some art for my comic, way behind on everything

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Yesterday's page. This is the best car I have ever draw in my entire life, how the fuck am I going to top this? What was I even thinking when decided to make a chase sequence? Luckily I have a couple of pages while they learn what's happening an get a car for themselves.

>>94400567
Dead cat trolling, is that you?

>>94390657
I draw sketch cards when exhibiting at comic conventions. A large stationers should have packets of blank A6 cards or postcards you can use to draw on (maybe even A5), though most people would probably prefer something A4/US letter sized. Use either single loose sheets of paper, or a sketchpad with easily detachable pages (as in your picture).

Get a multipack of sharpies or other markers.
Have some pre-drawn samples available.
Be prepared to do a lot of portraits and/or caricatures. See what setup other caricaturists have.
Be prepared to have people looking over your shoulder (and commenting) on what you're drawing.
Be prepared to adjust your prices on the fly.
Be fast. Good drawn quickly is better than excellent drawn slowly. At a convention you can tell people to come back later to pick up their sketch, but no-one will want to do that standing in the street.

For online, a tumblr full of fanart will get people to notice you. But you'll need to produce a colossal amount of pictures to get the all important follows. Reblogs are better than likes for publicity purposes.

>>94400574
The balloon for Dialogue 2b in Panel 1 needs to be larger to give the text more space, especially when compared to every other balloon on the page.

"She would make" or "She'd make".

That is a good car though. The next ones will be better; you can do it.

>>94400843
yea, hope my art has improved since then. it was kind of embarrassing

>>94398498
>you'd think it was sweet
dude
dude no

>>94400574
You're falling into a trap of "coloring" things while working in greyscale. It doesn't work. All it does is messing up values and making it hard to focus on things you should focus on. You're not good at coloring, are you?

There's no reason to actually fill the clothes with a tone, nor is there any need to do the same for the windows. Clothes should be recognizable by just patterns and some blacks (blonde cat's shirt) and there are other ways to make glass recognizable; with a see-through glass (windows) it's especially easy - just lightly draw what's on the other side.

>>94400986
Even with almost no text I manage to fuck the grammar. That's what I get for staying up till 4am I guess. The balloons are my Achilles' heel, I have to be more conscious of them, but I think I'll overcome them soon.

Thanks for the encouragement mate, I'll try my best.

>>94401622
Coloring takes me an obscene amount of time, and I'm still not very confident in my ability to make textures and make the page work with pure black, so that's why I'm using greys. I'm slowly working toward it thoug, so maybe when chapter two starts I'll drop the greys.

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Quick comic.

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What would be the best place to upload a light novel-ish kind of project?
Like a mix between an LN and Captain Underpants

>>94396887
>fuck panel borders, amirite

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>http://shi-tan-nime-comics.blogspot.com/2017/08/co-promotion.html
http://shi-tan-nime-comics.blogspot.com/2017/08/co-promotion.html

The case of the dokuza~ Despite these normie characters, something creepy will happened! And the dokuza is not a fucking drink. Its read right to left, because i dont want to be filthy gaijin forever....

I have returned with a company name! And holy fuck, im still really bad at drawing. One thing i have learned is, if you want to be comic artist, never practice shit that isnt comic making. This is the, OFFICAL. /co/. PROMOTION. PAGE. meaning once when i create another 5 pages of the comic, i will go back and edit to post on /co/ again. Why? Well, combining all the panels into one would be impractical, and my comic is unworthy to take up 5 posts in this thread. /co/ might be wondering
>you took this long for something this shit
yus. yus i have. i had to over come my dignity and depression; and come to the realization i might be spending the next 20 years of muh life posting shitty comics on /co/

enjoy. And, i know there are flaws. But i hope i can absorb all your criticism one day make "quality" content, and not become a meme here. Just by clicking the link, you give me the courage to go on, because i can view my site statistics!
>>94393320
wow, so this is the origin of taokaka
>>94400567
very cool. Counter terrorists win.
>>94400574
heh heh. Nice. This is just like these police one shots ive read but with furries.
>>94402449
im not sure if this is an inside joke, but as a pleb like me, i have no idea what the fuck i just read.

>im not sure if this is an inside joke, but as a pleb like me, i have no idea what the fuck i just read.

A giant frog wanted paper.

>>94398471
Just don't be dense and you will be ok

>>94395823
A real man who hits on underage girls on Deviantart.

>>94402555
Wordpress probably
Tapas novel section. Although idk how exactly it works on adding images in the middle and what not

>>94404506
>deviantart
well isn't that fitting, a deviant using DA

>>94402449
Kek nice gif

>>94400574
Nice car.
Seems we are summoning cars right away, that's good.

>>94401477
funny you should say that, because it looked perfect and nearly professional quality before, whereas >>94400567 looks a lot rougher and worse proportionally. I assume it's not done yet.

>>94401622
I can't disagree more. This is the reason I usually can't enjoy black-and-white comics, but I like this one a lot better.
That said, if you're going to put in this many different colors of gray, why not just color? It's not as if we're in the past when color cost too much to print.

>>94404506
Did he really or is it just rumors?

>>94406472
Do you really think I'd have the confidence to hit on anyone?
besides, women are supposed to hit on men. that's just nature, Gunther.

Remember to not give him any more (You)s!

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>>94402916
>http://shi-tan-nime-comics.blogspot.com/2017/08/co-promotion.html
W-What did I just read?

>captcha: southern shock

>>94398366
So it is mostly a tumblr problem then? One would think as long as the pages don't have a size too big it would be fine on the dashboard. I wondered because I see some comics that use either multiple pics (like owlturd) or a single pic (k009 and cult control) and not sure what is the consensus there.

>>94408550
if I'm understanding this right, it sounds like the further a picture is from 1:1 aspect ratio, the smaller it is as a thumbnail, and the harder it is to see what's on it

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>>94408763
>>94408550

Just found this, seems it is something like that indeed. The further in proportions it goes the quality may drop.

Overall this blog seems to have some useful tips on tumblr, may be worth checking out if anybody's interested on the platform.

https://unwrapping.tumblr.com/index

>>94401622
What is exactly wrong with it? I understand the windows bit but not the rest of the issues, unless you are trying to tell him to use screentones instead which could be just as hard to focus on.

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I took the advice you guys gave.
I just need to get to work on that custom font.

>>94400567
lol, I would read a catfishman comic

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I started a comic just for fun, but nowadays I kinda want to take it more seriously.

Work sucks and I kinda want to to make stuff to take some weight off of my shoulders.

On a good day, it takes me around 2-3 hours to make this.

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>>94386912

>>94411114
Cutebunnies are cute

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I think I have some kind of autism, I wasn't aware before.

I really hate to finish things. As soon as I feel I'm finishing a comic strip my motivation hits bottom, it takes me a couple days to draw the first 3 panels and then weeks to finish the fourth one.

>>94411711
>P24
So I assume there's more
2-3 hours is actually pretty time for comics.

But you'll get faster as you get more comfortable with your characters.

>>94411711
>2-3 hours
>Meanwhile I take from 6 to 8 hours to do one from sketch to flat colors

Everyone is too fast or I'm too slow. I know I'm too slow

>>94412325
It's some hype thing

>>94412592
I actually still have trouble getting used to the art style. When I usually draw I use something closer to anime. I had to learn to do something more cartoony to go for the effect I want.

And yeah, there's a couple more pages, 23 of course. I recently threw into Tumblr, but the art style changes drastically from the first pages to the most recent ones.

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So, since I was bored drawing huge tits, I decides to revisit my dracula girl concept for a short comic maybe? What can I add to her design that might be more vampireish?
I suck at clothe designing for women.

>>94411711
damn you're fast.
also is this one of those strange boxing fetish comic thingie about boxing?

>>94412806
pointier ears would be a good start, and maybe slightly longer nails.

>>94412806
Sadly when I landed on DA, I happened to stumble into a boxing fetish community, but I've never enjoyed that side of the things. Places money in my pockets but, not a fan.

I want to do a webcomic about a chubby girl who maybe or maybe not raises to the top. Just that.

>>94412806
What this anon said >>94412866 that should be enough to give away her vampirism no matter the clothes.

As for clothes though, since she has a lot of classic elements already keep it to dark tones and simple, so far you got them right.
Avoid straight goth fashion

>>94413385
yeah vampires probably laugh at goths

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>My comic got a like recently
>It was from my mother

T-thanks mom

Any of your parents know about your webcomic's existence, anons? Do they read them? like it?

>>94414050
My parents do this thing where they're more supportive the less they actually read it (or the more they just forget)

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When are you gonna get to draw your fucking comic, anon!

>>94414179
>Why would anyone do drugs when they can draw a comic?

>>94414050
my parents were more supportive when i was doing furry porn for money

>>94414050
My parents know I draw to get money, they don't know that I have a comic, or what I draw to get money.

>>94414050
My parents are dead lol

>>94414050
they know I have a comic but they are not curious enough to visit it. They can't read english anyway.

>>94414050
My mom likes to watch when im drawing a new page

but i get nervous

>>94414693
she likes to "watch" huh?

so i'm thinking of starting a feminist webcomic, does anyone have any advice?

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Rev up those webcomics, casue I'm sure ready to toss shit at them

>>94415148
I don't know what to make it about so you're going to wait.

>>94415199
make a comic about not knowing what to make a comic about, when you can't come up with an idea just do a daily about your day, at least then you're practicing and doing something

>>94415271
how many fan fictions will i get?

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>Story uses a cliche
>Characters mention the cliche is happening
>Cliche happens anyway or a forced anti-cliche is used in place

If you do this, kys

>>94415375
>forced anti-cliche
nigga that's called a subversion quit actin retarded

>>94414179
decided to play Fire Emblem instead

seriously its hard to continue writing/drawing after coming home from work

>>94414179
when are you going to make drawing a fun activity that i look forward to doing, please help

>>94415532
nigga English ain't my first language, stfu

>>94415632
well nigga break up with your first language and stop making English your side chick

damn

>>94415532
That doesn't make it any less cliche. It's like acting like an idiot, and then stating you're an idiot. Even if you aknowlege it, you're no less of an idiot

>>94416129
Lampshading is not everyone

>>94416383
Not for everyone*
Fuck I deleted more than what I should have

>>94415103
think again

>>94415532
i think a subversion is when you think of the cliche in a new way because you've undermined its source.

>tfw no qt editor-san to share snacks with

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>Should be working on the 12th page
>Is working on the 15th instead.

>>94416697
At least is working

>>94418026
Yes. I had a nice idea for the page 15th and I don't want to lose the inspiration.

>>94416472
>tfw no editor

why is making characters so hard
hell even stealing characters is hard.

(i know the answer: it's the lack of human contact, but shh.)

>>94419048
making characters is usually the part everyone loves and finds easiest.. most of the time people end up with a ton of unused characters because it's so fun to keep making more and more and more

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Okay so two weeks ago I finished and posted a comic strip to Tumblr hoping to make a weekly habit of it, but I got swamped with depression last week so that didn't happen.

But now here's what I'm working on for this Sunday's comic. You'll get to read the gag itself when I'm completely done, but it's not even funny anyway so I don't want to get anyone's hopes up.

I also think this is my first time ever drawing a human caricature in a comic strip besides myself. When I tried making weekly comics two years ago all the characters were just featureless white blob people. So it's nice to confirm that I have made at least some actual progress since then.

>>94419048
>>94419092
I actually have a hard time making characters too. Right now I'm trying to design the antagonist - how do you guys go about designing your characters for a certain purpose

>>94419256
looks like she's going to grab that balloon tail and walk off with it.

>>94419291
I just make so many, I have to 'cast' them. The few times I have to suddenly come up with a character last-minute, I do tend to draw a blank. Especially if they don't matter much and are just background.

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>>94419291
>how do you guys go about designing your characters for a certain purpose

If I may be honest I just let thing flow. I brainstorm really hard and from all the ideas I pick what works better, sometimes I even find exploring scenarios I didn't think about first. Then I just let my characters interact in my head and find out what just "works" with them. A lot of rework happens if I feel they aren't natural enough or if I feel I'm forcing something they shouldn't have.

An example. In the old days when I used to roleplay on those "only yaoi" forums I remember I had a character who I always felt weird about having to roleplay gay stuff yet with the rest I had no issues. I then realized "oh it must be because this guy is straight lol" and who knew it actually made sense. I even threw that inverse "coming out of the closet" thing in the rp and although I was warned hetero relationships were not possible it led to some interesting interactions with the characters of other users. And my character felt more happy too.

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QUICK

Post your most recent piece of work or something you're working on!

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>>94420051

>>94420116
oh ho ho

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>>94420051
A friend made a theme song for the main character of my canned comic and he asked me to write a good profile to present to his teachers, since it is a project for college.

It is in Spanish though and the old profile she had is really cringey prose-wise so I'm updating it. Meanwhile you can have a 2-year-old sketch of the character I guess.

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>>94420051
alright

>>94420219
The song is a project for college, and he needed you to provide a profile of the character to present... with his song?
Also this is cute. All she really needs is some outer edge face contours and a pupil wrangler

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>>94420051
And right now I'm drawing waifus in the weekend waifu thread

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>>94420051

https://clyp.it/cjvwbccz

>>94420249
The project is apparently a "made a theme song based on an external product" or something like that. Thing is he had to take a picture, a poem, a character or something and then compose the theme song. But he needs the actual thing he based the composition on so he can show that they are related and the song fits. So yeah that's why I have to update my stuff.

Also thanks! Yeah this sketch is from when my style was way more simplistic, I have tried to polish my style more but I haven't made a new drawing for her. I kinda want to do one but my friend says one of the old drawings is enough in that regard.

>>94420265
So cool. Watch that arm length, though. This is going to come up a lot, I imagine, so it's good to get it solid right now. The connector piece is supposed to be halfway up the forearm, right?
Also das some good music

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>>94420051

>>94420467

>This is going to come up a lot, I imagine, so it's good to get it solid right now. The connector piece is supposed to be halfway up the forearm, right?

Yeah it is, still getting that down; Also getting in some much needed hand practice.

>das some good music

Thanks!

bumparoo

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>>94420051
just doodling stuff.

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>>94390538
About this much.

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alright, I think I'm good to publish this page, I can't really make a better magic effect

>>94422044
Pretty cool effect. Probably as good as you can get in black and white, yeah, but some streaks of white in it wouldn't kill it. Like little sparkles or streaking sparkles. But if it's not that kind of magic (culty magic usually isn't pretty) then yeah it's fine.

>can't draw for beans without a reference
>tfw don't want to/feel to grind 100 hours of anatomy for maximum gains

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>>94420051
his hands are too big

>>94421734
Poor Mike

>>94422465
You could easily pass that off as perspective, but his arms are also too long. particularly the one whose elbow should probably be in between him and the staff, out of the view of the viewer

>>94422465
Hey, if you don't mind, I could tell you and point out where the problems are with his arms.

>>94422187
Look at some porn so it doesn't feel too boring

>>94422187
Just practice things you like anon.

Things are more likely to stick, and you will waste much less time, if you solve problems in work that you actually want to do instead of just studying for the sake of studying.

Practice should be secondary to doing actual art.

Just like if you were, say, learning to play basketball, you'd play a lot of games of basketball with your friends, and then practice whatever you're weak at like dribbling and shooting hoops by yourself on the side so you can do better the next game .

You might practice a LOT by yourself, at some point, but you'll be burned out as fuck and none of it will help you as much if you aren't playing actual games.

>>94423233
I wish my basketball coach thought like you

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>>94420051
Been going on/off this in between pages

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>>94420051
Just continue to work on new page of my comic. The base color step is surprisingly complicated on this piece. Otherwise, just some character design work >>94397999

>>94422957
go for it

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Color needs work but here it is.

>>94425270
I still don't quite understand why you can't just start making at least a vignette or a prototype of your story right away. Its good experience to have, I think.

>>94423492
why is your lineart so pixelated? is this an aesthetic choice?

>>94427895
No, probably some problem with anti-aliasing when it is exported at a lower resolution. Although my eyes are incapable of discerning the difference at this scale.

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Hey guys, just sharing this little project I'm starting on. Hoping to get some feedback. Thanks!

What do you guys like to do when you just want to write some random ideas or scenes down? Or just want to try out ideas? I'm currently stuck on my first chapter, but I figure once I set up my characters and the world, writing should become easier after that chapter. I want to write a story with lots of fights and monster battles, so not too much plot but just a lot of fun scenarios.

>>94429259
I go find some funny screenshots of conversations and then imagine which one of my characters is who or what they would do on that situation. From there more scenarios come and come until I have a better idea of my characters' interactions and what not.

>>94430202

That sounds like a fun way to build up there personalities, I'll give it a try, thanks anon.

Baump

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>>94420051
just drew a little update thing for my comic.

>>94429082
I don't really follow

>>94431999
>Cucky Hazard

i've heard people say that a good way to find a following is to post on tumblr
but how would you even?

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>>94411819

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>>94432627

>>94432818
Just post stuff that people like until you hit the jackpot

>tfw all my meme edits get way more notes than most of my fanarts

i-it's ok

>>94432818
if you are good at somet specifiq thing or have good art tips/hacks do a tutorial

seriously it amazes me how many reblogs/follows i got from those.

>>94433689
>>94433420
would those people even be interested in reading your webcomic though?
i don't know how many porn artists i've seen try to make non porn webcomics and i just had no interest.

What is the best site I can host my comic on? I've seen way too many great comics on tumblr get passed over just because the site is hell to use and the tags are always broken. I would much rather advertise myself on Instagram/FB and have my Instagram/FB page link out to the site my comic is on. I have a decent paying job so money isn't really an issue here. This would just be a side thing for me.

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>>94423492
Dear lord, mercy

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Well i finished up page 1. It looks a lot more filled up

>>94433789
It doesn't hurt to try, if anything tumblr is good for it's reblog system.

>>94433883
The best option is always to buy your own host. If you don't have that much money and tumblr is not for you then try on Comic Fury and similar sites. Or just go to Tapas/WebToons.

To be fair tumblr is kinda shit with the tags, but I find them to be more useful for your own content. For example if someone is searching for a page with a specific character they can just use the tag of the character in your comic. Stuff like that.

>>94423492
Damn that is a lot of work indeed

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Even I think my colors look eye-searing today. the hell. oh that's right, I reinstalled a graphics driver and it failed again. ugh. Is this what everyone sees?

Anyway, the triumphant return of Kaen's helmet. and a use of his turns-things-spiky ring that I can't believe it took me this long to use.
thanks to Maggles for the idea about wood armor. Sadly it was too resplendent to be allowed to last.

>>94435654
no eye searing, but maybe work with a limited pallet

>>94435654
While I like everything that is going on there, I'd prefer if you could use slightly different tones on the coloring.

>>94435722
>>94435768
Yeah there's definitely something wrong with the colors.. I've been trying to fix it as I go, but it's definitely wrong. For one thing not everyone is supposed to be THIS pale, only the redheads.

I'm gonna just keep it consistent for now, since the comic's almost over, but I'm definitely going to get it sorted out before the next one starts.

>>94435722
stick to a specific saturation
also, your characters lack shadows, think about where the light is coming from.
maybe you can get away without worrying about the lighting (i don't see a lot of webcomics worrying about that)
but stick to specific or close enough saturations

>>94435891
meant >>94435828

>>94435891
i mean of course as a rule of thumb. see what you can do when you limit yourself

well on the other hand, when I bring it up on my TV hooked up to my other computer, it looks about right. other than Kaen's hair which is still unforgivably neon red. but then I did change the settings on that TV..
>>94435891
I thought I was, see. Two or three monitors ago, it looked just right. Now I look back at those and holy shit.
>lack shadows
well yeah I'm not shading at all. It's been pretty much flat colors all the time, though I'm giving Autostrada some mild shading just because she's shiny (and hard to make out otherwise, with a lot of darkness and complex shapes). and in this cave, I've started using dropshadows for.. pretty much the first time. that way not everyone looks like they're floating all the time.
I'd give some kind of excuse about how old videogames didn't change lighting, but a lot of them did. I've just had a perception issue where I autocorrect it in my brain and never actually see that it's happened. I literally only realized night scenes were blue-tinted about 5-6 years ago. so in that regard I'm a newborn babbu beginner, and have a lot to learn how to even perceive.
thanks for that advice though, that's actually new. I've never even thought about keeping saturation uniform overall. if it was an audio file i'd hit it with "normalize" I suppose.
>>94435722
Also never thought about a limited palette, but might be fun! It's fun in pixel art, after all. god when I was 7 i had such bad art OCD i refused to use the same color twice on any picture, lest people think the black hair and black shirt are the same material

>>94435828
just study fucking color theory you lazy hack

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>>94435983
forgot to attach example. This is the most I've ever played with lighting and shading in this comic by far.
>>94436048
If only it were that simple. yes sir. Got a specific tutorial?

>>94436077
top panel looks good
you should follow the masters
Genndy didn't use shading in Samurai Jack, but changed colors depending where he was so he wouldn't clash with the environment
that's why he was sometimes yellow and sometimes peach, or even sometimes green

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>>94435768
>I like everything that is going on there

>>94436361
You know what? I should get some screencaps and start eyedropping. That'll force me to see that when I otherwise don't. Because I totally don't. And you're right, that's extra important in that one because of the no-outlines thing. Which they then intentionally defied in that episode (or was it several episodes? It's been a while) where the guys in black blend in perfectly against the black area and then Jack wraps up in white to do the same thing in a snowy area..

>>94436385
other stuff that doesn't really have shading are most cartoons do so (but they usually have shaded back grounds)
and sometimes victory gundam

>>94432608
second page has more exposition

does it look interesting to you?

>>94436617
Plus cartoons really have more of an excuse not to shade the characters since you'd have to do it on every frame.
I'm definitely going to shade the next iteration at least most of the time.

>>94434176
I see skelethon and pinkerton, is this comic /mu/?

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>>94419256
Here's where I'm at now. (This isn't a whole days worth of work since the last post, I'm just an unproductive bastard like I've said before). Just need to add grayscale colors and shading.

So I need to know, on a scale of 1 to 10, how cringe is this joke and the way I executed it paired with my drawing style?

>>94439777
hmmmm the legs look somewhat awkward I'd say you do them full adenvture time spaghetti style, the joke was 5/10 sorry, I think the appeal isn't the joke itself but the visual gag and that one is a 7/10

>>94439777
I wouldn't call it cringey. Kind of weird in proportion to how funny it is, but that's never something I'll complain about.
You're aware your art needs work, I'm sure. I don't think it interacts with the joke in any way really.
This would be funnier if the quote was actually something a person would likely say don't-quote-me-on-that about.

>>94437044
It doesn't really catch my attention but that's just me

>>94439923
>>94439960
Thanks. When I came up with the visual gag initially I was pretty excited to get it out of my head and into the comic, but as I kept drawing it out I realized I was creating a mediocre execution of a decent joke and that I wan't doing it justice. But I didn't want to go back and redraw everything, so I just pushed to finish this.

I need to work on nailing the composition in sketch form before I go about moving forward. This one also could've benefited from a couple more panels, with one panel showing the girl actually taking the speech bubble.

I'm just criticizing myself, but it's good motivation if it's constructive. Still though, I don't feel like I wanna rework it at this point. I'll color it up tomorrow and post it. I have better ideas than this in my arsenal but if a gag-a-week format doesn't work out I'll have no choice but to start planning a for real webcomic.

>>94440849
>I need to work on nailing the composition in sketch form before I go about moving forward
Bingo. I know that feeling of just wanting to get something out on paper, and not wanting to redo anything, intimately. Like we've fingered each others' butts, me and that feeling. But it's not a healthy relationship. "taking the time to plan carefully and sketch everything out in the composition" will snuggle you all night and have long important talks about your future together.
>This one also could've benefited from a couple more panels, with one panel showing the girl actually taking the speech bubble.
In most situations, I'd agree. A complex and strange action is best when gone through step by step. In this case, though.. this gag is a GAG, and could actually easily have been three panels instead (either removing the third panel or adding an off-panel wordbubble into the second)

redoing things is up to you, a lot of people have been saying lately that "just-doing" is better practice than endless planning. You really can't say which was the right decision until much later on when you've studied and gotten better.

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>Make drawing slowly, using references and drawing a sketch before hand
>Looks like shit

>Draw without references, energetically and with a bunch of errors
>Looks awesome

WHY?!

>>94441124
I can only imagine you're going too slowly and too carefully in the former instance. At a certain point it's like trying to carefully carry water in your hands to a fire, going so slowly and carefully that it just runs out between your fingers. Your flailing is at least causing some water to hit the fire. Now we just need to teach you how to use a bucket

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>>94441230
Bad metaphor. Thing is that since it's comic artwork I want the thing to look nice quickly. The other drawings also look nice but requiere much more time that I ain't willing to invest on a fucking page panel.

I can finish a page in 3 hours. It'll be. Readable and enjoyable but not anatomically correct. Or I can invest 8 hours and it'll serve the same purpose just a bit higher quality. Which pisses me off.

>>94441423
or you could, call me crazy, practice the basics before making a comic

>>94441124
pos t example

Would placing the dialogue below the pictures script-style rather than in bubbles inside the panels make things unreasonably hard to read?

I know that brevity is... wit, but I have to wonder if that might come in useful when WORDS WORDS WORDS is unavoidable.

>>94441423
Ah well if you're talking about "80% more effort provides 10% more quality" then I am right with you. Efficiency all the way.

>>94441763
I prefer them at the top, if you're going to do that, not at the bottom.

My art and writing is worse than every bad artist and writer you can think of, but combined into one giant fuckball of terrible. Should I still keep going? What if I am forced to become a cuck because of this? Should I kill myself?

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>Writing first draft of scene
>Entire first page highlighted to be changed

Kill me

>>94441872
Not until you have at least give it a try, don't be a coward

>>94441763
Depends on how you show the picture. Placing dialogue below the panel works better for single panel updates a la homestuck or when you are making it in a storyboard style like the comic that gets posted here from time to time.

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>>94422739
Nah, he's alright.

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>>94406344
surprising to hear, I understand forms a bit better so I assumed even the roughs would look better than my old finals. heres some more

>>94411362
>>94411362
thanks, it's comin

>>94447369
couldn't even find a good reaction image for how this page and your overall quality made me feel.

>>94441872
Make an attempt my dude. At the very least, you can't be CWC bad.

>>94441872
sounds like you're in a great position to go nowhere but up

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I have new one about to launch in a week or two. NSFW. Erotic romance, adventure. Very fun to script. Here is one character. She okay?

>>94449546
Everything looks really nice so far!

>>94449546
i wanna fucc that train

>>94449870
Thanks! I admit, I am a little worried about my choice of lineart backgrounds and only coloring the important parts, though I like how they go.

>>94449956
No you don't. It's so goddamn slow. Worse, when it should stay right in the groove and go steady, it stops and creaks and complains. Might as well get off, and get there on your own.

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>Fucking /cgl/ haves better comic/paneling discussion.

>>94451112
It is agreed that you have better discussions of anything that isn't related to the board you are currently on.

Also your pic is a general rule of scenery and setting, especially on photos, so I guess that's why /cgl/ had it. But yeah it is important for comic paneling as well.

>>94451112
>artist makes up rule
>doesn't show why it doesn't work
>examples of why it works is just own sketches
yeah what a load of shit
you get more from learning basic composition, not some short cut

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>>94451254
>Not already knowing about rule of thirds and golden mean
>Not knowing these are the most simple and basic rules in composition
>"you get more from learning basic composition"

>>94451254
>makes up rule
>the rule of thirds and the golden mean

A-anon, I...

>>94451687
fucking hell it's been a while

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>Trying to come up with a meaningful acronym for a special force unit
>Can't really make anything sound coherent

>>94447369
You really are amazing

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>have had two great webcomic ideas
>can't draw for shit
>try to commission artists but none can draw in the style I have in mind

>>94452349
then commission an artist who can?

>>94452372
That's the problem though.

I've commissioned four artists now and they weren't bad artists, but none of them could capture the art style I have in mind.

I pay them, of course, but I can't keep shelling out $20-$50 just to hire someone who might be able to draw what I want.

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>>94435227
>>94434041
I am officially in the quagmire of this process, because its part of the painting where hours of work that doesn't look like much progress.

>>94452455
>that last UNF panel

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Rate my anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOjrRf_u7N4

>>94451254
if you learnt the basics of composition, you'd have heard of the rule of thirds, dumbass.

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Pointy.

>>94452402
I'll go out on a limb and say it's all on you, basically. You are either asking the wrong artists, or you are not making the exact style you want clear enough. Probably the latter, unless the style you want to pull off is actually complex

>>94450295
i'm gonna fucc the train

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>tfw no webcomic podcasts to listen anymore
>tfw my favorite one died
>tfw I probably was the only one who listened their last episode

>>94454795
That looks extremely painful

>>94457438
He's a big guy

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>>94457815
For you

Bam

>>94449546
She's perfectly fine right now. Very generic, could be in an antidepressant commercial. Looking forward to the romance.
>>94451254
I'm with you. Everyone knows centered things are better.

>>94451929
In real life, the acronyms are rarely spot on and usually chosen for how they sound. Pick a good word and it doesnt matter if the acronym doesnt totally fit.

>>94452349
What style do you want?

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I'll get seven pages done and then upload the batch. Then work on the next part. I was going to wait until I finished the entire story, but it seems to have run a bit longer than I hoped.

>>94459749
>I'm with you. Everyone knows centered things are better.
i know you think you're funny, but please don't spread this kind of misinformation meme, everyone in this thread has some kind of developmental disorder and might take you seriously

>>94449546
Cool background but study up on folds, right now her clothes look like play doh.

>>94461223
How could centering NOT be right?
This is like all those reviews of Pokémon Snap where they criticize how it wants you to center a picture. Of fucking course it does. It's a picture of a subject. Why wouldn't it be centered? All forms of art center the subject, I can't think of a single one that doesn't. A single famous photograph or painting.

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Anyone here actually use Patreon?

What's up with this community thing? Does Patreon provide your patrons with a private forum or something?

>>94461656
B^U

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shi-tan-nime-comics.blogspot.com/2017/08/co-promotion.html

I got first 5 pages of ch 2 of Reiko's Love Story! Sorry if i didnt heed any criticism from my previous comments. im honestly a bit scared. But i sort of felt better writing this than the last one. Enhoy!
>>94454795
Reminds me of Berserk. nice
>>94461656
lmao. I wonder if i find it funnier because i actually looked into that /x/ shit for summoning a waifu.

>>94461550
shut the fuck up you autist, if you're going to center something then at least understand how headroom works in conjunction with the rule of thirds and stop pulling literal shit out of your ass.

>>94461656
so glad we're getting more of this. your update schedule a shit but at least you haven't disappeared on us.
The pacing, dear god the pacing. This needs to be a cartoon

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>>94389970
Read or don't, whatever. Just started so you'll notice the art style change over the first few strips

http://fasttimesatmiskatonicu.thecomicseries.com/

Been getting really into Dredd and I'd like to try my hand at a fan comic about a Judge taking the long walk. Any general tips for keeping the tone and specifics of the stories without it seeming like I'm simply ripping things off? Essentially I'm asking where is the line between inspiration and plagiarism?

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Well, it's not a webcomic, but it's a webstory and there's a couple of pictures.

https://confetti-curls-n-cork.tumblr.com/

If anybody's interested in a weekly updating story about a pair of rodent spies who are also a gay couple, then hit it up, I'd love to hear what you guys think.

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>>94461550
>tfw you can't tell anymore if people on /hyw/ are trolling or if they really are that dumb

>>94462508
I think I like the character more than the comic, but keep posting here. I wanna see where this goes.

>>94462771
I'm going to let you guess which part of that summary resulted in me not reading it.

>>94462824
>I can't believe anyone disagrees with a rule. It's the rule! That means everyone follows it without question!

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>>94463018
Please, share with us your art. Enlighten us to your image composition skill and knowledge.

>>94463080
>You want to prevent these things from happening
perfectly fine photos
>guys piled up painting
centered
>easel painting
looks awful. sorry rembrandt
>AT-ST art
almost centered. Makes me mentally cut off the far right of the picture so it becomes centered.
skipping down a bit
>phallic rock picture
looks way better centered. They butchered it.
I'm not seeing anything in this guide that convinces me I don't like seeing things centered.

>>94463302
>looks awful. sorry rembrandt
worst trolling i've ever read, now you're just being an insufferable cunt to sour the whole thread because you're a contrarian who doesn't want to admit he's wrong so OUT OF SPITE you're going to act like a bitch. you are a horrible person and i'm positive you have no friends.

but let me clarify something: you literally don't know what you're talking about. it's not about NOT centering, no one is saying you can't center something. you just need to center it within the rule of thirds. you won't listen to this though because you're a rebellious child

>>94463573
>No one is saying you can't center something. you just need to center it within the rule of thirds.
So I misunderstood? That explains that. So help me out, what do you mean? Centered is in the middle. Moved over so it's one-third from one side and two-thirds from the other isn't centered

>>94463624
read the image you idiot, including the captions below the thumbnails, it explains everything you just asked.

>>94463684
I did, all it says is stuff about how centering is "boring" or "static" and how putting things off-center gives the eye "time to wander"
I don't agree with any of those, and I don't want eyes wandering.
I do agree with parts of it, though. That stuff about counterpoints. I have been doing that but I didn't know why or what it was called. But that's for two subjects, not one.

>>94459784
Fair point. I actually choose a word but is the meaning of each letter what bothered me, since it doesn't make a 100% coherent sentence an I was worried it would affect something.

>>94464037
>I don't agree with any of those, and I don't want eyes wandering.

Why?

The point of having the eye wander is so that the piece itself is immersive, and it feels like your subject exists within larger scope or world.

>>94464196
When there's something in front of you that's the focus of your attention, do you turn your head slightly to the side? Or do you focus right in on it, so it's in the middle of your field of vision?
A lot of this guide was about "leading the eye". If something's in the middle, you don't really need a treasure map to get there, it's where you start.

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>falling for bait on a guy who doesn't really know about composition

come on guys I thought we already learned our lesson with ColdFusion

>>94464296

But with comics, you're not looking at one static thing. You're looking at a series of images, and its your job to keep your reader interested, and moving smoothly from one panel to the next.

Perfectly centering (or just poor flow in general) can leave the reader hanging up on a particular thing, and it can even take your reader out of the immersion if your paneling and overall flow of the page is choppy.

Let this be the last /hyw/

>>94464392
What kind of things would it leave them hanging up on? I was trained on the funny papes, if there's something they're doing wrong, help me unnastans.

>>94464400
not yet, I'm still not famous.

>>94464400
Where would we shitpost then?

for the dense motherfucker who just doesn't seem to get it: things don't just exist and work because you want them to, nothing has ever just regurgitated on instinct and "works" and if you go on believing that then you'll have never learned anything, and you'll join the millions of other ignorant idiots who insist that they are artists but never actually wanted to put in the work of actually being one. you won't even take a moment to TRY to understand what we're talking about, you just want to aggressively deny that there's anything objective about composition because you're probably one of those "art is subjective" morons who hates being criticized. and if you think you're being some kind of rebel genius visionary by breaking the rules, you're not. why? because you don't even know what the rules are, how could you possibly break them?

>>94465901
Do you hear yourself at all? Try reversing that. The rules aren't the rules just because you say they are. Nothing "just is" the rule. And if you can't explain why it works, then I'm sticking with instinct. If it really is good, I should feel it. I've got artistic sense.
I'm not even going to touch the alien logic in "you don't even know what the rules are, how could you possibly break them?"
If you don't know the rules, how can you possibly follow them?

>>94466104
>I've got artistic sense.
Post your work

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>>94466104
High IQ Objective Level anon is that you? What are you doing here on /hyw/?

>>94466142
Howbout you finish answering my questions about these rules instead of losing your shit that someone's questioning them. How can you possibly be upset when I'm literally asking you to explain it

>>94466196
I'm sure that guy would be on your side, given that he studied it in college, and you're trying to force some kind of rule that sounds like it came out of a textbook.
I mean, if he wasn't a troll.

>>94466244
He was just as dense, he would totally not agree with the composition rules that anyone should know from college

>>94466269
That doesn't make sense. Why would he tout his degree as making him superior, but then not agree with it