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Suffering Thread

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Taking Suggestions
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>>92389414
Deserves: 65
Suffered: 5
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>>92389414
Honestly Dream should just be 100/100.
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Deserves: 75
Suffered: 0
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Pasqualo from "It Hurts!!"
Deserves: 35
Suffering: 100
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>>92389414
Deserves: 15
Suffered: 100
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Where would he go?
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>>92389414
>Benson has suffered more than Aang and as much as Bojack and Rick
accurate
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>>92389414
>Sandman that high on suffering
>That high on deserved

He's a literal god. He basically has an entirely different understanding of the universe. Not to mention almost all of his suffering is self-inflicted outside of the first story arc.
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>>92391340
If his immense suffering is self-inflicted, then he deserves it.
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>>92389414
The housekeeper at the bottom should be 10 on deserving.
She wasn't malicious
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>>92391242

>Last one was supposed to be 20 for the Deserves, not 15.

Deserves: 20
Suffered: 70
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>>92391242
Taylor deserved a lot more than that and her suffering wasn't 100 in scale I'd say, it was impactful, losing all that you are and trying to take the chance to die just get a new life in a new Earth without all your friends sure is a lot, but it all happened in a very short amount of time and she still has a lot of life to go through now that she has a second chance. Lets not forget that while yes, she has done a lot of things for the best, she has also done some shit. Terrorizing people, control the minds of millions at the same time, shoot a baby.
"I could maybe learn to be okay"
Suffering: 85
Deserved it: 25
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>>92389414
Deserves:5
Suffering:100
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>>92391369
I'm saying his suffering isn't that immense because it's all emo brooding. Like Death, in the first arc and the last arc, basically tells him, "Dude, just fucking relax it's fucking fine."
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>>92389414
Movie Rocket.

Deserves: 25
Suffered: 90-100
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>>92389414
Deserved:70
Suffered:30
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>>92389414
Who's top left corner?
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>>92391340

What about this Spider-Man?
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>>92389414

Punisher and Daredevil should be on this, with 90 of suffered for both.
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deserves - 60
suffered - 90
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>>92391477
what happened to him?
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>>92389414
Deserved: 70
Suffered: 35
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>>92389414
Replace Jaune's imagine with attached.
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>>92391492
Became a joke
Nobody took him seriously
Only D-list villains hang out with him
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65 Suffering and 85 Deserved It
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>>92389414
Deserves:90
Suffered:20
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deserves - 100
suffered - 30
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>>92391492
buried alive
tied up in trunk of car and driven into a river
beaten up constantly

all he's ever done is steal things
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>>92391413
deserves 100 for ruining Jack's show
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>>92391464
When the Wind Blows, an animation movie of a cute old couple living their merry lifes together and lovingly on the outskirts of a small town on the united states during the cold war, when a nuke hits nearby. They manage to survive only to find themselves stranded in the middle of buttfuck nowhere, with no one to rescue them. They are running low on food while they wait for the goverment that they trust to come and help them, just to be left to die of radiation poisoning as they hold hands, each in their own black trash bags as to not be of trouble to however comes pick their bodies up if they ever do.
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>>92391468
That'd be good. Japanese Spider-man had to deal with some real fucked up shit.
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>>92389414
Suffered:60
Deserves:60
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>>92391464
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they're the perfect 0 deserved 100 suffering
indirect radiation poisoning is a slow painful death
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>>92389414
I have a feeling this thread was inspired by my threads on /v/ which was inspired by these threads on /co/ which are a knock-off of threads from /a/.
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Doctor Venture

Suffered: 50
Deserved: 50
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>>92389414
suffered:90
deserves:80
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>>92391646
>>92391638
>implying the Monarch suffered at all
>implying Rusty didn't suffer way more than 50
>implying Rusty doesn't deserve it more
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>>92391638
>>92391646
HA
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Can't really say yet because she's hardly a character but she'll be up on there soon
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>>92389414
Needs Nox from Wakfu.

Also needs Qilby from Wakfu
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>>92389414
so does anybody have a blank version of this?
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>>92389414
well he got crucified that one time. but he also got to be a king. but the love of his life went crazy and got herself murdered by a flying gorilla. but he did get to fuck a lot of women
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Jasper needs to be bumped to the right, she wasn't nearly that innocent. Like, she should be a 6. Don't know how she's behind Jeremie, Mr. Incredible, Fred Flintstone, and such. I think she should be replaced laterally with Jaune Arc, no clue how he's that far right.
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>>92391675
Dr. Venture is scummy but he most of his suffering came in childhood. He's been coasting off of a legacy he hates and all the mayhem that meant until the newest season. And, despite being kinda a jaded asshole, he does care about his family. He's pretty balanced in deserved and suffering.

But I agree about Monarch. He's fucking happy just fucking up Venture's life.
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>>92391762
thank you very much
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>>92391399
Looking in that same suffering range spiderman is rather ironically a pretty good measuring stick to compare her with.

If spiderman gets to be honored with a 90 for suffering then tay-tay should get a hundred. Both go through similar dramas but hebert's is on the next level compared to what peter goes through.
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>>92389414
Who would be (0,0)?
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>>92391823
I'm thinking someone like Tommy Pickles
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>>92391755
Did you watch Earthlings and you still feel that way? Jasper was only trying to avenge Pink Diamond and the CG's DID kill members of her colony and betray her race.
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(0,100) and (100,0) are perfect
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I wonder if we will ever fill it
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>>92389414
Pyrrha deserved to suffer.
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>>92391919
dude take out the /a/ dragonball z character
this is a /co/ chart. "honorary" /co/ still isn't /co/
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>>92391844
Tommy suffered the Jungle Movie
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>>92391550
We know fuck all about her.

Deserves: 95
Suffering: ?? Pretty low all things considered

How do we judge exactly how much this fellow actually suffered? Lived most of his life being an asshole uninterpreted only to get whirlwinded in the last seconds.
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>>92391869
>>92391823
Thinking of filling in those gaps.

>>92391820
That Spiderman is misplaced IMO

>>92391823
>>92391844
Has to be someone with a specifically good care-free life and that deserved it. Pretty hard to do since a character like that would probably be boring. Maybe someone that goes on a lot of adventures and doesn't have problems with it?
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>>92391919
Any explanation for the removal of several characters?
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>>92389414
I filled in 80% of this chart last time after OP ditched. I'll save this thread and fill it up tomorrow with this thread's suggestions then post it again if no one has done it yet.
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>>92391989
i made it with a past one i had.
i now realize maybe i should have used this one.
im a retard i know.changing it right now.
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>>92391603
did he died?
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>>92392015
If you can, try to fit them in the boxes better. It'll be hard to fill in the adjacent squares after otherwise.
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>>92392015
but in my defense,this chart up ahead has missing characters from the one i had.
so its pretty fucked.
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>>92391919
You placed stuff wrong you dunk nuts

>>92392005
>>92391134
Here's a close-up of Pasqualo
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>>92391919
you suck no offense
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What about DC's infamous atomic blue men of suffering? Captain Atom, Captain Adam, Dr. Manhattan, etc. Suffering is a multiversal constant for them. Where do they list? Or should they just go into one entry as a whole?
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x 50, y 5-10
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>>92391242
Katia much better fits that spot imo. Taylor has a higher deserves score.
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ok i found a way to mix both charts
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>>92392166
>still hasn't fixed Taylor from >>92391242
Its Suffering 95
Deserves 25
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>>92392166
When I copy this I end up with a black background. I was going to slot a character in but obviously I couldn't. What goes on?
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Suffering: 90
Deserving: Something between 80-90
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>>92392241
it works fine for me
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>>92392241
Its transparent, use a photo/drawing/editing software that can read transparent pictures instead of paint.
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>>92392166
Move Amelia to 10
They were all accidents and misinterpretations
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>>92392311
Sai and Photoshop Elements both give me the black background and that's about all I have. Oh well.
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>>92389414
Deserves 85-90
Suffered 15-20
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>>92392166
South Park pube kid is on there twice now.
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How about a candidate for the 0-0 spot?

Deserves: 0
Suffered: 0
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>>92389414
Deserves 55-60
Suffered 25-30
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>>92389414

0-0.
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Okay, OP here. Had to do some stuff but I'm actually gonna deliver. Just give me a couple of minutes
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Suffering: 90
Deserving: 10-15 maybe?
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>>92392166
Deserves 10-15
Suffered 50-55
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Considering that he straight up went to Hell in a short, I'd say 100-100.

>>92392621
>Deserves 10-15
>Suffered 50-55

Cartoon Pooh maybe. If it's Comic Pooh, those should be flipped.
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>>92392166
Suffered 55-60
Deserved 30-35
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>>92389414
Riddle me this O chart OP, what did characters like Star Butterfly, Amelia Bedelia, Morty Smith, Spongebob, Patrick, Fred Flintstone, and especially Mr. Incredible do to deserve their suffering. I mean, Mr. Incredible was a literal superhero who kept illegally helping people after superheroes were outlawed. He's a pretty good person.

Though I could be wrong on Spongebob/Patrick, I haven't watched past the first movie.
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>>92389720
>>92390300
>>92391450
>>92391459

Done

>>92391134
Couldn't really find any good images of pasqualo, but I tried

>>92391321
Deserves: 25
Suffering: 75 (more if we're counting the fact that he was retconned out of existence)

>>92391413
Spot was taken, so I did closely enough

>>92389825
Who?

Posting what I have so far because "save early , save often" is a mantra that should be followed more

>>92392858
Can't speak for everyone, but here's my best guess:
>Morty
Regularly emotionally abused. Almost sexually assaulted.
>Star
May not see marco ever again. Mother got shit beat out of by Toffee, Lost her wand.
>Patrick
Fucking dumb asshole in later seasons
>Mr Incredible
Fall from grace in the first parts of the movie. Was a genuinely good person, but his few flaws during his prime (arrogance) put his family in mortal danger
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About a seventy and seventy split I'd say.
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>>92389414
Probably should change later when people think of more well known one, but Jack Slash is a pretty good 100.100
>grows up in rural area with over-protective parents that still have the cold war fear, now boosted up with the appearances of super powered people in the mid 80's
>Lock their kid up in the bunker with food and water for a couple years, they teach him school stuff while daily feeding him fake, overdramatic news of the horror outside and how bad the world is
>Eventually food runs out and they let their kid outside, he gets his powers from the trauma of realizing the world is just as bland, boring and normal as it ever was
>Following years has him bunching up and interchanging 9 super-powered serial killers and going around the continent doing strategic social and psychological damage through mass murders
>Fastforward 20 years, he uses other villain's powers to revive everyone who has ever been on his group and clone each of them 9 times
>Except one called Greyboy, who he figured he wouldn't be able to fully manipulate and control like he has been doing
>Gets cornered by the good guys at the last second, showing weakness for the first time in years, making Greyboy get bored and use his power on him
>Forever locked in a time loop where he's brain is not affected, essentially being forced to relive those 2 second moment of pain again and again and again, with no chance of it ever being turned off, as Greyboy himself declares his power's effect will only run out probably way after the sun dies out.

Tl;dr: Guy kills thousands directly, including many heroes, plus millions indirectly. Gets locked in a time loop while realizing he's in a time loop just as he's getting hurt by something
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suffered 30-40 (he fucking DIED)
deserved it - 0
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>>92392959
Thanks but characters are still missing from that chart.like charlie brown
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>>92393003
Wait,nevermind,i catched him.
Do we use this as the official one?
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>>92392858
One can deserve suffering for doing bad deeds, but also for general incompetence - not understanding what the consequences of their actions might be either by choice or stupidity. I think this should at least explain Spongebob, Morty, Mr. Incredible, and Star.
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>>92389414
Why does Patrick Star deserve to suffer exactly?
Also, Clarissa's rapist dad seems to suffer quite a bit. He's constantly losing his cool and getting angry over things suggesting he is quite unhappy with his life himself. Probably thinks raping his daughter will help him. He is certainly not completely sattisfied with his life.
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>>92392799
it was intended to be cartoon pooh. I can't speak for comic pooh
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>>92393073

cuz he's a sociopathic asshole, anon
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>>92393123
I don't see that.
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>>92392959
(85, 30)
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>>92389414
Aang should be higher on both suffering and how much he deserved it

Remember it's cause he didn't want to face his destiny why he was encased in ice for a century
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>>92392959
Suffering: 85.
Deserved: 65.

Quick Rundown:
>had an abusive father that ultimately ended up killing his mom when he was a kid
>denunciated his father on the spot to the police, breaking up the whole family
>one of the mains makes fun of him constantly (not pictured)
>no one really likes him

>has anger issues, much like his father
>choked the main that made fun of him once out of jealousness and anger
>generally a assholish white knight kind of guy
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>>92393497
Did a reverse google search for a good image... Is this guy (Augustus) him?

>>92393490
Aang moved from (10,50) to (35, 60)
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>>92392992
Furie said he's coming back in a puff of Marijuana smoke
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>>92393497
>>92393577
Nevermind, I'm a dumbass.
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>>92393577
It's Abbey. Though Augustus is easily a Suffering: 90; Deserved: 40.
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>>92393640
See >>92392380
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>>92393431
rate this guy
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>>92393640
You got Scaramouche mixed up
Also suffered 15, deserved 100
Bastard left his family to freeze and starve to death during a blizzard only because nobody taught him how to tie his shoes
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>>92393672
20, 50
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>>92393431
someone remind me what did phoney bone do to deserve that much, no way he is worse than the comedian
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>>92393672
If I had to, probably about 50/50... Comic Scott was kind of a sleazy asshole, but he got his comeuppance and ended up relatively okay...

>You got Scaramouche mixed up
Sorry, babe
(moved to (70, 30) instead of (30, 70) )
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>>92392982
>web serial
not /co/
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>>92391554
joker has suffered alot
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This chart is pretty cool, OP. Know if other charts with a similar theme have been made?

>>92393763
Looks like you got that gigantic little shit, Manny, mixed up.
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>>92393760

Besides being a crook, while running for mayor, he served expired prunes to save a few bucks. Gave everybody in town, if I recall Smiley correctly, the Fast Track Sallies.
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>>92393895
>This chart is pretty cool, OP. Know if other charts with a similar theme have been made?
I know either /tv/ or /v/ did something similar... Not entirely sure

>Fixed
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>>92393879
Its capeshit, /tv/ and movies get discussed here all the time and they are also not /co/
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>>92394008
If that's the case than My Hero Academia characters get on the chart simply because they're /a/ capeshit
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>>92393431

hey man, bubble buddy is more like a 1
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>>92392959
I have no idea who that is at (0, 0) but A CHALLENGER APPEARS
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>>92389414
Deserved: 0
Suffered: 60
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Suffer 65
Deserve 5
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Suffered 7-8
Deserved it 8-9
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Suffer: 15-20
Deserve: 0
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>>92394140
He deserved a little bit though for being a mildly annoying and mildly spoiled mary sue..

Alternatively, he suffered a bunch because his show got cancelled even though everyone wanted Disney to reconsider. McCracken didn't deserve that.
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>>92394115
except for the fact that anime and oriental story telling in general is pretty garbage
But in all seriousness, its more about the fact that Worm has been brought up on /co/ sometimes and its bound to get a "visual" adaptation in the future. Nothing personal, but if you have a better idea, please, bring it to the table, like I said, and I quote "Probably should change later when people think of more well known one". There are literal tumblr OC characters already in the chart and no one is complaining. Besides, this web serial is arguably a better cape story than a lot that comes around here
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>>92394229
>He deserved a little bit though
alright, fair enough. Put Wander in for deserving 5 and getting 0
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Deserved: 70
Suffered: 60
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Deserved: 100
Suffered: 60
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Suffered: 100
Deserved it: 60
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>>92394125
He's responsible for someone's death. He's a murderer.
>>92394140
>>92394229
Putting him at (10,20) for the cancellation and having his hopes and dreams crushed by The Bad Guy

>>92394157
Is this the heffelump?
>>92394173
>>92394150
>>92394314
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>>92393988
Suffered: 65
Deserved: 10

>disliked by everyone you know since your birth and for 10 whole years
>only trying to do your job
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>>92394508
It's an elephant/vacuum cleaner from Mark Russel's The Flintstones
poor bastard died from a movie theater floor
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>>92394551
HA!
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>>92394551
Oh fuck. That's bad.

>>92394543
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Suffering 0
Deserved 95
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>>92394508
Suffered 50-55
Deserved 75-80
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Suffered: 80
Deserved: 15
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>>92394551
Hold the fucking phone, they killed Vacuum?
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>>92394719
Yep, two issues ago
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>>92394508
Suffered 60-65
Deserved 15-20
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>>92394715
I meant 85
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>>92394715
Now that's a good entry!
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>>92394729
Fuck me. I need to catch up.
Poor basted. Rip in piece.
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>singular most iconic WB character of all time
>not on the chart
I dont dare rate him myself. Where does /co/ think he belongs?
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>>92394508
Now, for that giant gap.

Suffered: 40
Deserved: 60

>cursed to only feel hate
>bad luck

>abuses best emotion
>almost singlehandledly drove Riley to running from home
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>>92394767
Probably a 75, 25
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>>92394767
Suffers 55-60
Deserves 50-55
Buggs is actually balanced af, if you ask me.
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>>92391585
Anon was obviously talking about Aku
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>>92394715
Good one. But now that remembers me of someone pretty damn bad.

Suffering: 15
Deserved: 95

>>92394767
He's pretty balanced, only a bit on the nasty side. The proportions of his faults aren't too big either.
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>>92394598
I think Gil Marverde is a good one for that 10 80 spot up there, the 10 being there mainly for being a little dumb and ghost cheating his way into space med school
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>>92394598
Suffered 75-80
Deserves 85-90
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>>92394640
>>92394663
>>92394715
>>92394730
>>92394810
Holy shit we're actually making decent progress! Good job everyone!

>>92394882
Who? From where?
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>>92394891
>>92394903
Forgot to quote you anons, but I put your characters up there
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>>92394937
She's from Beautiful Darkness, the same graphic novel as Aurora.
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>>92394767
He's a self admitted "stinker". He definitely deserves a lot more than he gets, but he gets almost nothing. I'd say he's roughly 50, 25
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>>92392293
I'll admit it's been a while since I've seen this show but I don't remember him actually doing much to deserve just as much shit as he suffered
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>>92394598
Deserves: 95 (just realized this chart doesn't start at 0, or at least, doesn't end on 100, fuck)
Suffered: 0
Just a useless character used for gender bantering, an undertale reference and a forced meme. Fuck this fuck's shit right up.
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How about these two?
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Surprised she wasn't here. Lapis was the one I was expecting the most to be in a suffering chart.

Suffering: 95
Deserved: 30

>trapped in a claustrophobic object for fucking 2000 years
>trapped herself with the worst enemy on the show for almost a whole season
>closest thing to home is Steven

>kind of a autistic, moody bitch
>tortured Jasper for almost a whole season

>>92394903
No way he suffered that much.
He obviously deserved a bunch more than he suffered.
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>>92394937
I've noticed that a lot of the top left are mistreated superheros (Jack, Daredevil, Spiderman, Rocket Raccoon) and many in the bottom right are goofy and eccentric but short-sighted/unintelligent individuals (Mabel, Johny, Patrick, Warden, Scrappy). Is ignorance the root of all evil?
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>>92391384
>>92391477
>>92391499
>>92391687
>>92391728
>>92392160
>>92392293
>>92392548
>>92392621
>>92394218
Were these missed or merely skipped for one reason or another?
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>>92392293
Oh shit, this one slipped through the cracks, didn't it?
>>92395006
Just remembered I need to finish HS... Not even to see if it was good or not, just for closure.
>>92395098
>>92394975
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>>92395098
She's a weird case. She didn't deserve the shit that happened to her when they did, but she definitely did deserve to have those things happen, to her, after they did.
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>>92395133
Missed...
My bad!

Thanks for linking to them tho!
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>>92394937
>Who? From where?
Same comic as Aurora. Zelia killed most of the cast and was held the leader merely because she was a beautiful bitch. She's precisely Manny tier, only with actual deaths.

Also killed Timothy, the purest waifu on that whole book.
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>>92392977
I'd tone town the deserve part a tad since the scope of his schemes never really left his little city.
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>>92389414
Are people judging Ice King as Simon or Ice King?
Because I don't think either of them did enough shit to be at 50 on the deserve side.
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>>92395204
Welp, I mispronounced. It's actually Zelie.
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>>92394937
Suffered 15-20
Deserves 80-85
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>>92392160
>>92391384
>>92391477
>>92391499
>>92392621
>>92394218
>>92392548
Placed!


>>92391687
Strategically omitting her because we don't know what will happen to her in the third season.
'>>92391728
Putting him at (15, 80) because of flying gorilla and crucifiction... that's pretty suffering-worthy
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>>92394140
>anon suggests Wander as a 0. 0 character
>>92394229
>>92394293
>anon2 suggests he deserved a little bit of suffering and first anon agrees
>>92394508
>chart anon arbitrarily assigns Wander to 10. 20 based off nothing but his own personal opinion
Well its good to know that this entire chart is garbage and that the person making it just makes this shit up as he goes along. I almost took this seriously
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Reginald: 60, 30
Beartato: 20, 60
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>>92395353
Fuck forgot the picture twice now
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>>92395378
>>92395364
I agree, probably tune that way down to 10. 5
The character itself didn't suffer, despite slightly deserving it. The 5 is purely out of pity for the cancelation.
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>>92395364
>Complaining about a chart instead of suggesting changes

>>92395348
>>92395365
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>>92395348
I would say wait until after the final episode to include Aku. Then we can judge him better.
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>>92394640
>Suffering: 0
I wouldn't say that.

>made as the villain of the live action movie
>also made as a villain in the comic
>CN makes fun of him everytime he appears, see his old CN City bumpers
>Mystery Incorporated despises his existence

>helped making Scooby Doo survive as a franchise back then

Add some 40 in the suffering. It's Pepe tier.
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>>92395466
Changed!
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>>92395364
Actually, I agree. Wander should've been Deserved: 5 and Suffering: 0. I was the one that originally said he was annoying after all.

Also
>not contributing
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Suffer 65-70
Deserve 65-70
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>>92395469
>>Complaining about a chart instead of suggesting changes
NIGGA I DONT THINK YOU UNDERSTAND. FACTUAL NUMBERS WERE STATED MORE THAN ONCE FOR THAT CHARACTER. YOUR NUMBERS ARE NOWHERE NEAR THOSE. THIS DRAWS INTO QUESTION LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR IN THIS THREAD BECAUSE IT SHOWS YOU DONT CARE WHAT WE SAY ABOUT CHARACTERS. YOU WILL JUST PLACE THEM WHERE EVER YOU WANT
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>>92395552
Changed once more!
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rank him
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>>92395594
>taking a cartoon chart this seriously
woo lad
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>>92395481
I'm judging him based on his actions in seasons 1-4
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>>92395631
Seems about right then.
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>>92395601
Switch Yosemite Sam and Cerebus
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>>92395671
Plop
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>>92395601
Anger is mixed up.

>>92395614
He's pretty chill actually. Would be more interesting if it was Penny.

Probably, Suffering: 15
Deserving: 10
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>>92395289
I'm wondering this too

Simon is at like a 5 max deserves while Ice King is at like 25 at most
his worst crime is ineffectively harassing women and generally being obnoxious
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>>92395614
Suffered 35
Deserved 35
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Suffering: 15
Deserved: 0
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>>92395776
>brave snek guard deserving any suffering when all he did was defend his lawful king against a murderous, tyrannical usurper
fuck off Double King
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>>92389414

Meatwad needs to be a little further up on "how much they deserved it".
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Suffered: 30
Deserved: 20
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>>92395703
Suffers 40-45
Deserves 55-60
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>>92395703
Suffering 100
Deserved 40
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>>92395776
>>92395753
>>92395717
>>92395835
>>92395848
Wooo!
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>Seen as a joke despite how capable he really is
>Arch nemesis is Black Manta who has done numrerous terrible things to him for little to no reason
>Brother is his enemy
However
>Has been getting an in universe fanbase during Rebirth
>Hot wife
>Runs Atlantis
Where does he go?
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>>92395871
Suffers 15-20
Deserves 50-55
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>>92389414
Will this chart ever be finished?
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Suffering 100 should really be saved for the Fates Worst than Death characters. I mean, c'mon /co/, Rocket Racoon and V at 100 suffering, really?
Either Fate worst than death or Inoccent/Slow/excruciating/torturous death/existance.
Squidwards deserves his spot, I'd say, for example.
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>>92391755
>>92395601
I concur great chart fixer - Jaune doesn't deserve it that much. Move him above Aang or 30/35, IMO.
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>>92395871
Oh yeah. Ice King is on there twice now.
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Suffered: 25
Deserved: 5
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>>92395871
Looking good. Keep up the good work senpai.
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Suffering: 30
Deserved: 30

Guess I'll help with the bottom left corner.
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>>92395914
>>92395957
>>92396001
Placed

>>92395930
Small request: I don't have all these characters' names memorized, so just to make sure I don't fuck up, people suggesting changes put the place where their character is would be much appreciated!

>>92395957
Removed
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>Jerry less deserving than a half retarded child like Mable

There's a lot off about the entire thing but holy fuck
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>>92395871
Just gotta fill up with some mild assholes.

Suffered: 5
Deserved: 45
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>>92389414
making a few suggestions
1/?
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>>92395871
Suffers 15-20
Deserves 85-90
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>>92396062
MY Bad... Mean to say "removed" to the ice king guy
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>>92396072
suffering: 40
deserve it: 70
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>>92396062
Suffers 65-70
Deserves 70-75
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>>92396062
Gotcha. It's the blonde you updated here>>92391532

Throw him next to Meat or above Aang. All he did was be bad with girls and act as a comedic character.
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>>92396062
>Heathcliff

Suffered: 0
Deserved: 50

>mary fucking sue, also a complete dick

>>92396064
Keep pointing out. Might be harder if we try to do it later.
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suffering: 60
deserves: 0
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>>92396118
>Suffers
>anything in the positive

Explain.
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>>92396075
>>92396098
>>92396118
>>92396136

>>92396136
Jerry from R&M? Should I move him above mabel (but still same suffering?)
>>92396144
Closest I could do was next to Vacuum and Rocko
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Suffering: 60
Deserved: 50
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>>92396159
suffers because he is basically a slave, has to do most of the dirty work such building, cleaning, taking care of the warden, gathering all of the criminals
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Suffering: 40
Deserved: 5 to 10
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Ted from I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream. There's a short comic of it.
100 Suffering
35 Deserved it for being a con artist before being made a victim
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Suffering: 20
Deserved: 70
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>>92396210
Nah, he doesn't suffer at all, he enjoys what he does.

If anything, his suffering is 0.
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>>92396205

>>92396249
Wow what a day, the guy's head looks like a talking penis!

>>92396325
Wasn't he a charlatan... You know... a quack?

Also, holy shit we're almost done with the top-left and bottom-right corners!
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>>92396343
I disagree, but perhaps his suffering should be lower, say 25-30
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>>92396353
That 20, 80 spot should probably be given to Coward
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>>92391755
>is a child soldier that was born to fight a losing war
>was made in a shitty ghetto kindergarten
>gets her goddess/mommy murdered and her home planet stolen by rose
>tries to go to earth for revenge on the gem that ruined her life and gets beat up multiple times by op fusions, ditched by her teammate, fusion raped for months on end, later rejected by the same gem that fusion raped her, then catches space AIDS and dies
pure suffering and simultaneously the only character on the show that actually receives punishment for her actions
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>>92396457
You mean courage the cowardly dog?

>>92396502
Just say the word if I should move jasper
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>>92396353
I think that Dipper and Star should be moved a few squares left (Eddy, Kevin, and Teodora are clearly worse than the two), Bojack a few squares up, and Jailbot many squares down (he loves his job).
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Calvin for (25, 25).
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>>92396539
yes the former
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>>92396502
the worse thing she did was act like a dick to the stupid corrupted gems desu
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Where would Homer Simpson himself go? I figure he's somewhere around the center.
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>>92396543
>Jailbot
Now at (70, 30)

>Dipper and Star
Star and Dipper next to Mr. PB

>Bojack
Debating where to put him, but for now I put him about the same level as Ozzy
>>92396560
Next to Jasper and Jerry
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>>92396539
Nah I think she's fine where she is. She's a jerk but she didn't deserve most of the fucked up shit she's been through.
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deserves 45
suffers 85
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Suffered: 50
Deserved: 0
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>>92396673
Wait really? What happened to her? I only saw a couple of episodes but nothing struck me as suffering.

>>92396657
>>
>>92396718

Watched her parents get murdered by an evil sorceress and was trapped inside an amulet for 41 years (implied to be conscious for most of it since she was Sofia's spiritual guide for the first three seasons of the series).

Only reason it's not higher is that she got freed and is living a really nice life now.
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deserves: 75
suffers: 10
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Suffer: 10
Deserve: 5
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Where should Hellboy go?
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>>92396783
>>92396846
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Suffer: 95
Deserve: 30
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Suffer: 45
Deserve: 25
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Suffering: 25
Deserve: 15
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>>92396876
Nox, literally became obsessed with an ancient artifact that eventually led to his family dying. Spent 200 years trying to get them back by killing every living thing he could, only to fail horribly.

Suffering: 80
How much they deserve it: 100
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Suffer: 85
Deserve: 85
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Suffer eighty five
Deserve eighty five
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>>92397037
scratch that make it 70-85 deserve and 70-85 suffer
we had an entire thread today for why this guy's a douche >>92339634
>>
I guess we can call it a night, for now.
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>>92397110
I'll say!

Good night everyone!
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>>92397309
what's his ranking everyone?
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Where would you put her?
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yo Tom is just doing his job, he doesn't deserve it that much. also jerry is usually the one instigating stugf
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>>92397309
Yo, wake up asshole
(30, 85)
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>>92397985
(20, 5)
>>92398027
(85, 5)
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Rusty should be moved from 50, 45 to 75, 90. That guy is a fucking dick and he gets molested by his own father.
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>>92389414
>The Old Couple from where the wind blows
My Heart.
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deserves: 15
suffers: 70
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deserves: 35
suffers: 55
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>>92397309
Don't agree on Scrappy. He was pretty much turned into a joke villain post-factum just for being a gimmick nerds disliked.
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deserves: 0
suffers: 45
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>>92391978
His suffering applied only to his journey to reach his status when he started doing really terrible stuff, though. That's difficult to judge.

The welded wireless mouse with the trackball was fucking gold though
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>>92389414
Meg has committed sexual assault, she deserves her torment a lot more than that.
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Deserves: 105
Suffering: 0
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Where would you put him?
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>>92395034
>Miss Don't Touch Me

Suffering: 75-85
Deserves: 25-35
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D80
D20
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>>92398980
( D80/ S20 ), i mean
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Okay guys, I'm loving the progress (not OP), but the chart's looking like complete ass. Should I rework the grid so it looks better?
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>>92399124
Sure, if you're up for it. You could also add the entries that were submitted after OP left.
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>>92399137
I think I will, as a matter of fact. I may need help identifying a few people here and there; I hope you guys can assist. Please don't judge my lack of knowledge; I'm a casual and I know it. Who is:

S100, D15
S100, D35
S100, D40
S100, D45
S100, D100
S95, D5
S95, D35
S95, D40
S90, D15
S90, D85
S85, D15
S85, D60
S85, D65
S80, D20 (Mecha Sonic?)
S65, D10
S65, D50
S65, D100
S55, D5
S40, D10
S25, D90
S15, D10
S10, D55
S5, D5
S5, D50
S5, D60
S5, D70
S5, D80
S5, D85

Christ, I'm out of the loop. This will take a moment or two. The tab gods will be most displeased.
S20, D5
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Can someone tell me who the bottom right is? Ive seen him posted around here before but never got around to looking him up.
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>>92399427
He's the father of Clarissa. He repeatedly rapes his daughter and never receives any consequences for his crimes.
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>>92399286
Alright, so the template itself is ready to rock. If anybody's faster at this (or has the images already saved) they can run from here, but I'm going to keep working this.
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>>92399501
Thanks anon.
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>>92399513
>that 5

My suffering: high
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>>92399630
Good catch, I'll have it fixed in the final cut.
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Suffering - 50
Deserves - 10
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>>92399286
>S95 D5
Vision
>S95 D35
Johann Krauss
>S85 D15
Gil (Ava's Demon)
>S65 D10
Vacuum (Flintstones)
>S5 D70
Tweety Bird
>S5 D85
Stinkmeaner (Boondocks)
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>Legend quest girl suffering at 20
Dude she was a little girl who got into a coma by an accident and had to leave his desperate and crying mother behind to save the world.She gets transported to an outdated time where she gets cucked by a witch,casually has heart attacks and even fucking died.
She should be:suffered 70 deserved:30
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Deserves - 60
Suffered - 10
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>Suffers 50s-60s (works with so many idiots)
>Deserves 30s-50s (still a villain but a goofy one at that)
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>>92399513
i tried to mix the 2 charts together but i couldnt.too complicated
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Suffered: 45
Deserved: 0
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>>92400500
You could have protected their smiles.

Why didn't you?

(Still working on it, just a progress report. If you're not seeing ones from the bottom most-filled row up that were on previous versions, it's because I don't know who they are)
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Suffering - 20
Deserved - 10
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>>92400680

Shouldn't 0 actually have its own square too?
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>>92400712
Technically yes, but the OP's didn't, and I don't feel like fucking with the formula.
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>>92391399
>"I could maybe learn to be okay"
More like. "I'm no longer making bad decisions which will lead to worse decisions because of my previous bad decisions."
Taylor deserved it like 20-30, suffered 90-100
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>>92398027
Added

>>92398257
Gotcha

>>92398349
>>92398360
Both slots were taken, but considering where they're from, I think they suffered a bit more, so they get a bump in their respective suffering digits.

>>92398500
Fuck you, now I'm sad again

>>92398943
He put up with Pinky, but didn't cause that much trouble. He's near the middle

>>92398980
Done.

>>92399737
He loves you not.

>>92399752
Thanks for the first three, but I think you or I missed which one we meant, I know those ones

>>92400110
Shit eating grinned

>>92400147
PINGAS

>>92400572
The hero that series finale deserved

>>92400697
She's so boring as a character, of course she gets a milquetoast slot as well.

Still working on the lower half. If they're above 50 suffering I'm purposefully looking for sad or angry images. Below 50, I'm trying to find happy ones. Some of them are MUCH harder to find than others.
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>>92399513
>>92400680
>Has a 100.100 spot
>But not a 0. 0
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>>92401295
>Have a character that has neither suffered nor deserved suffering.

We call that 'Not a character'.
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>>92391584
Don't forget brutally fucked up by Spider-Man and nearly murdered, which is why he had PTSD in Superior Foes
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Suffered: 75
Deserved: 10
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>>92401214

Here's a new one for Elena (Suffering 50, Deserved 0)
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>>92401214
I kind of preferred the old icons, but this chart is amazing as it is.

Good work, guys.
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>>92395173
How much does Hater rate?
Personally...
Deserves: 40
Suffers: 70
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>>92401818
50/60
its implied season 3 would have given him a backstory that makes him higher on the suffering scale but thats not happenning
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>>92401214
Suffered 50
Deserved 50
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>>92401214
>>92397309
>Sexually abused by D: 100, S: 0.
>Brothers implied to be abused by him as well.
>Mother tries to at least keep her happy with dolls and favorite food.
>Cynical and jaded personality as a result.

Serious question; where would you rate her?
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>>92401997
She was asking for it.
D:100, S:0
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>>92401997
>Suffered: 95
>Deserved: -100

She doesn't have a place in this chart.
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>>92401214
Suffered: 85
Deserved: 70
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>>92399286
>S100, D15
Stressed Eric

>S15, D10
Teresa

>S10, D55
Parker

The last two are from Scalie Schoolie.
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>>92401214
Suffering - 65
Deserved - 75
Even though he dies in nearly every episode, he's got it better than Carl and Meatwad.
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I nominate Lumpy for (90, 95).
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>>92401214
Suffer 75 deserve 65
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>>92399286
Most of those characters are in the thread though. Try reading it.

>S85, D65
Abbey from Bittersweet Candy Bowl
>S85, D60
Ludo from Star vs.
>S95, D35
The chart really is shit to use, but I think you're talking about Augustus from Bittersweet Candy Bowl too
>S5,D85
Johnny Test? If it's the meatball character, then I don't know

You're doing God's work though, keep it up Anon.
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>>92402585
>the meatball character
Coconut Fred of Coconut Fred.
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>>92399286
>S40, D10
Opus the Penguin from Bloom County.
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>>92401637
Pretty crowded zone; I adjusted, considering the suffering of the other contestants.

>>92401682
Sure

>>92401734
I feel you, but it would have been too messy trying to cut out all the old icons and put them into the new model.

>>92401901
He's got a bodycount, so he edges out Doc and Mord in the 'Deserved It' section

>>92402376
One gross-out zoom in coming up!

>>92402428
Dracula's got his spot!

>>92402489
A victim of his own success.

>>92402501
Body counts yet again push this one ahead of those without.

>>92402585
My failings are my own to keep. Now I lay me down to sleep.

I'll see you anons in the morning. I have work. God's speed, you magnificent bastards, I hope the OP shows up (and isn't mad at me)
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>>92402872
See ya later.
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>>92402872
I thought you ditched us. Glad to know you're still around. I was just finishing the chart myself. I guess I'll just take it from here.

Geez, you choose the exact same John K close-up I did.
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Suffering: 0
Deserved: 0
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>>92403818
What does she do?

Welp let's keep it going then. At least, until OP comes back.
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>>92404102

She's a sweet little girl princess who lives in a magical kingdom and goes on adventures. She's kind to everyone she meets, never hurts anybody, and even tries to reform her worst enemies. Any suffering she endures is extremely temporary, I don't think she's ever even cried on the show.
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>>92403818
Sofia should at least be at 5/5. She lost her dad at some point (or got a divorce?) so she has a little suffering and although not related to the suffering, she deserves it a little bit because she tried to befriend the mutinous evil wizard thats been trying to overthrow her stepdad's kingdom and her bitchy step sister instead of ratting on both of their bitch asses first chance she could.
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>>92404102
50 Deserved
70 Suffering
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>>92404542
Make it 30 for deserved and you're on the right track
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>>92404593
Maybe 40?
He was still a hitman before he retired.
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>>92404152
>>92404285
I guess she counts as having some suffering then.

>>92404542
Yeah, I found it a little odd to have him as brat-tier. 40 fits him better. Done.

We're needing more suggestions. I guess /co/ is just gonna be a bit slow for now.
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>>92401997
Replaced Kenny's spot with her... I wasn't sure if I should have replaced visions or the couple at the top left
>>92403818
Next to Knock-Knock. It's Knuckles
>>92404542

This guy was sad... Went with >>92404652

>>92398931
Doesn't this classify as /a/?

>>92401901
>>92401637
>>92400697
>>92400572
>>92400147
>>92400110
>>92399737
>>92398980
>>92398500
>>92398360
>>92398349
>>92402376
>>92402428
>>92402489
>>92402501
Done! Sorry for taking a bit. I was busy.

>>92404102
I can't thank you enough for keeping the thread live, man. Better template, too!
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>>92404759
>Doesn't this classify as /a/?
Yeah, man.
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I'll be back to help out later.
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>>92404749
>>92404759
Ok so which one is it?
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>>92392223
Taylor has been forgotten....

Put her next to morty.

>>92391550
>>92391978

No. hell no... blue dimand is not worse then caliborn. Caliborn goes to 100 deserving and blue dimand goes somewhere else altogether because that whole placement is nonsense.

>>92395006
Not an actual reason. Remove 'hir' from the chart or find a better place for it.

>Spiderman is misplaced. He does not suffer that much.

>Jasper is misplaced. She's evil and got what was coming to her.
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>>92404749
Reinstate Pasqualo at 35, 100
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>>92405596
Placed Taylor!

>>92405596
I was a bit confused by BD's placement... Seeing as though the next bomb (the 29th) will probably give us a lot more info about their character, it might be too early to say for sure.
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>>92405596
Any room for bill? Maybe he can take spiderman's spot?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuQGfk9Gmgo

Deserves: 45?
Suffered: 0?

thoughts?
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>>92405596
>>92405689
Spidey deserves his spot.
>One More Day
>Superior Spider-Man
>anything involving Gwen Stacy
Just off the top of my head.
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>>92405689
He's very tricky.
I guess he counts as Suffering: 70 for the sad shit he had to go through (even if he was oblivious sometimes) and Deserving: 20 for being a ruthless weirdo.
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I want to add Flash Venom but we already have Eddie
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80 Deserved, 35 Suffer
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>>92405682
> Manny Heffley - 100
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>>92405682

Suffered: 50
Deserved: 5

Wilt had a hard life.
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>>92392959
You kind of just listed her sufferings there. Not really WHY she deserves to suffer. Some of it is definitely her fault but a 55? Really? I'm thinking like 20 at best but just my opinion.
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>>92405682
What exactly did Scrappy do?
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>>92404759
I'm glad you're back. Though you'd abandon us here for a second.

>>92405624
Good question.

>>92405624
>>92405689
>>92405737 Barely counts as a character, but you're correct.
>>92405938
>>92406159
Done.

>>92406015
Yeah, he deserved at least 150.

>>92406509
Annoying creator's pet. Though he suffered a lot because of it later.
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>>92405737
Seems accurate.

pseudo-accidental genocide is bad but turning into a butterfly is good.
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>>92405682
>Aku at 85x
>Patrick at 100x
This needs to be fixed. Now.

Swap them around. Please.
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>>92406686
>Annoying

That's subjective but ok
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>>92406700
I'm seconding this. We gotta move SpongeBob too.
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>>92406686
Damn, this is really getting places. I'm glad because I put at least 7 on that board!
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>>92395098
I dunno, not that guy but Bill did spend like a billion years trapped in a collapsing hell dimension only to get punched to death about a week after getting out. Plus apparently it took a pretty large toll mentally but that wasn't mentioned in the show.
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I'm thinking about 35, 80 for Rorschach. Anyone else have some thoughts on him?
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>>92405682

Deserves: 30
Suffered: 35
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>>92407105
60 is a bit high for deserved for poor Craig
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>>92406686

>>92389720
>>92394218
>>92392160
>>92395365
I think these characters should be re-added, or just Katia and Bendy at the very least.
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>>92406700
Moving the Star

>>92407200
>>92407094
Done
>>92407105
Added him between Reginald and Kevin
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Suffering: 80
Deserves: 40
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>>92405017
Well, good question.

>>92406700
>>92407105 Geez, is he the Brendan Fraser of /co/ media?
>>92407094 Did I get it right? I only remember about that incident he had with the dogs.
>>92407200
Done.
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>>92407459
My bad, I meant 35 Deserved 80 Suffering for Rorschach.
He had a really shit childhood, got really disillusioned after the dog thing, fell into a trap and was jailed, and got blown up by Manhattan standing by his personal moral code.
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I think she deserves a Suffering: 50 and a Deserving: 25. I mean.

>generally nice and shy person
>genuinely only wants to make her cartoons
>depressive for being too much of a cinnamon roll too pure
>doesn't let tumblr bullshit take over even though it's all around her

>too nice to handle her crew
>took lots of bad choices which left her show with a bad first impression
>slighty autistic

Is it ok, /co/?
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>>92407459
You forgot the slutcat
100, 20
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>>92407702
not a cartoon character
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>>92407771
It's /co/ stuff though. Anything slighty /co/ related goes.
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>>92407459
Suffered: 65
Deserved: 65
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>>92407345
Err, 45, I suppose. Didn't see the chart update.
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>>92407459
>Monarch higher on suffering than Rusty
Rusty literally had his eye punched out of his head. He had both his kidneys stolen. This chart is stupid.
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Suffering: 10
Deserve it: 15
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>>92407926
Monarch does seem a little bit overly high. Not sure where he should really fit at though.
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>>92407320
>Dib is misplaced, he's scored to high in both metrics.


>Caliborn is a 100, Blue D should go somewhere else ornot be ranked till next Steven bomb.

>Manny is a little shit but he's misplaced, he's not evil enough.

>Happy tree friend moose is ranked to high in the deserve catagory.

davepetta is on here because of meta reasons after >>92395006s mentioned hir. Should not be at where it got.
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>>92407320
>>92407105
my bad, it was
deserved: 25
suffered : 60
just like >>92407459
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Suffering: 75
Deserves: 30
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Suffering: 55
Deserves: 10
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Suffering: 10
Deserves: 75
Fuck "God's forgiveness", he tried to commit triple homicide for people not bowing down to a chocolate rabbit.
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>>92395829
Owl deserves more around 40. Mostly because he's the one that creates the potential for all the bad shit that happens to him by not standing up to life and moving on from his shitty current friends.
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>>92405739
>>92405596
>>92405689
Don't forget that Green Goblin murdered his newborn child.

And that he was molested as a child.
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>>92407760
>>92407843
>>92407848
>>92407926 That's why we're trying to discuss those things in this thread, Anon.
>>92407932
>>92408022
>>92407998 I tried to do my best. Only thing I don't agree is about the moose. He's almost always the main source of suffering in his own show. Better to just say some new coordinates next time.

Done.
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>>92392959
I think you got Scaramouche in the wrong place
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maybe lets wait until the wanted special and see where blue diamond fits
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>>92407459
can someone tell me why scrappy from scooby doo deserves so much?
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>>92408254
>Teodora
>55 on deserving
>worse than Blue or Garfield
wut
wut
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>>92389414
Honestly, the couple from When the Wind Blows should be 100/70+, at the least. Fucking idiots deserved it for being such dumbasses.
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>>92408283
If you consider the first movie canon, he took over an island and tried to murder the Scooby gang. If not, then he's just annoying.
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>>92408314
Their suffering came from a situation that was far beyond their control. At the very most they would be at 10 on the x axis.
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>>92389414
If anyone will agree, I think I have a contender for 0.95
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>>92408254
>Steven deserving not 100
>lower than Dipper or Arnold
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>>92408208
Suffered: 30 (In prison)
Deserved: 100 (Molested Spider-Man)
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>>92408283
>>92408317
I'm pretty sure Mystery Incorporated confirmed the movies were canon in some sense by having him in the museum of villains. Also, doesn't he threaten to eat some kid in the comics?
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>>92408254
Nice, appreciate you listening and adjusting the chart.
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>>92408346
Sure, I don't want to argue about their suffering, but they are just the kind of people who make something like that happen. The blind faith in the powers that be, remembering the war and the blitz being fun (while everything east of them up to the ural was bombed to oblivion), neglecting simple to follow rules and their general ignorance. Those are the kind of people who said that they didn't know what had happened in the camps. The kind of people who shed a tear over the empire, and who think the russians were actual liberators when they came to Berlin.
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>>92408254
Suffered:80
Deserved:90
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suffered:50
deserved:35
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Suffering: 80
Deserves: 100
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Suffered: 45
Deserved: 100
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>>92408161
Yea, in a way almost everything bad that happens to him is set up by him. Even then, he is still the one that ends up suffering the most. I'll just give him a 60.45 so he can get close to the undeserved failures section.

>>92408056
>>92408090
>>92408363 I would like a explanation
>>92408372
>>92408455
>>92408489
Done.

>>92408367
/gfg/ pedophile get out

>>92408310
It's the people in here that rank those. You'd expect them to watch the show, right?
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Suffered:40
Deserved:50
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>>92408663
As with Patrick, SpongeBob should be moved to the left too. It would be weird to keep him where he is now.
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>>92394436
I haven't read a lot of the comics, how did he suffer that much?
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>first two columns nearly filled up on both charts
Who should take up the remaining spots?
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Suffered:15
Deserved:25
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Suffered: 100
Deserved: 100
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>>92408878
perfect
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Rate him
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>>92389825
Why do people think Morpheus deserves to suffer so much? From what I remember the shitty things he did he at least tried to put right later. Surely that cuts him some slack.
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>>92408663

I'm not sure but I think the bitch from Beautiful Darkness should have her Suffered slightly increased, since being burned alive inside a stove isn't the prettiest of deaths. Then again she caused so much shit that that was not enough.

Btw a new addition

Suffered: 10-15 (The pork curse episode was the closest of shit that she got in the entire show)
Deserved: 75-90 (Depends how much of the abuse she inflicted on Dib was really necessary)
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>>92408980
75 suffering 90 deserving
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>>92408792 Way ahead of ya
>>92408784
>>92408517
>>92408605
>>92408878 Fuck, that's perfect.
>>92408851
Done.

It's shaping nicely guys. Soon, we'll have the ultimate /co/ (opinion) morality chart.
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>>92389414
Jaune and Korra should be moved to the left a little. There's a difference between being annoying and deserving the shit that they went through
>>
at this point,we HAVE to fill the entire chart
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>>92408663
What happens when you make a mary sue and add it together with also doing horrible actions and getting no consequences for said actions? That's basically the character times infinity.
There's so many fucking examples of terrible writing for this character, but there's an entire series on ripping it apart if you need material.
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>>92389414
Why Bojack so much on the right?
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>>92409139
I don't know much about that series but he probably brings a lot of it onto himself.
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S:65 D:100?
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>>92389414
Spider-Man is about right. He deserves what comes with overconfidence. He got:

>Being screwed out of a happy marriage because muh bachelor Pete
>Watching his Uncle die in his arms
>Being tortured and brainwashed to the point where he came within literal inches of becoming Norman Osborne's successor as the Green Goblin
>constantly berated by the people he protects
>Did I mention the torture on Norman's part included electrocution?
>Pretty much dying and having his body stolen
>Don't even get me started on how long this list would be if we included Ultimate Peter Parker
>Electrocution
>By Electro and by Norman Osborn
>too much shit to list
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>>92389414
>>92409047
Star dindu nuffin'!
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if we are doing creators
Suffered:65
Deserved:100
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>>92389414
I feel like Dipper and Mabel should both be moved one or two notches to the left
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>>92408449
The "simple rules" they were supposed to follow were fucking laughable bullshit that would have been next to useless. That was the point the film was making. For ordinary people living in standard British housing stock at the time without access to a fallout shelter (which I don't know about anwhere else, but here they were only available to the government and anyone rich enough) you were fucking dead in the event of a nuclear war. No amount of old doors or matresses was going to save you, the "Protect & Survive" advice was more to keep people calm than keep them alive.

Also I'm sensing some incredible hostility to the generation that lived through the war. Did you not get along with you grandparents Anon?
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>>92409091
We're making good progress!
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>>92409189
not mentioning Jean DeWolff or Gwen Stacy
even being cucked by her and she plays it like it's his fault
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>>92409000 She's in for the brat section alright.
>>92408980
>>92409163
>>92409225 That's kinda harsh. I'd think that would fit only to massive hacks like Hirsch or John K.
Done.
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>>92409047
85 Deserved
80 Suffered
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>>92408980
We'd have to rate him based on the comics for now, but I'm hoping that if the movies make use of his obsession with death it will be because of suffering. In the comics he just felt like an outsider despite being treated fairly by his family.
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s:85 d:35
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Suffered: 90-95
Deserved: 30-40

Most of the hienous things he did happened after his family died (plus certain questionable killings he did on 'Nam if you count the MAX verse), and even them he aimed his brutality at people who deserved it, mostly.
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>>92408851
I wonder if those numbers will change next season.
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what about him?
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>>92409490
Dexter deserved most of what came his way desu. He was arrogant and egotistical. Constantly belittling others.
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>>92409525
S: 0
D: 0
Just surfin' along through the cosmos~
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>>92409490
85 seems a little high for him. Maybe 65-70
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>>92409422
>there's Caliborn and Spades but not Vriska
While I agree that Vriska did some stuff right, she also did shit that in the end, she got scot-free on because of the retcon making her alive again and making her fix more than she should be capable of.

I am not sure where exactly but she's definitely on 'relatively low suffering to what they deserved'
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>>92409570
Di you count what his alternate future selves suffered in the movie though?
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>>92392293

What has he done to deserve that much suffering? He's 20-25 for deserving it at best.
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The thread is gold. I hope, there will be completed image somewhere on the board.
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Suffered:65
Deserved:25
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>>92409685
Suffering is 60.
Deserving is 50.
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>>92409572
Maybe (80, 30) for Vriska? She had a rough childhood and some bad shit happened, but she was rude, manipulative, and assholeish to most people with little retribution in the end.
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I didn't see him, but Logan is the absolute King of suffering, I put him at suffer 100, deserved it 50
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Suffered:30
Deserved:80
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>>92409740
>deserved anything less than 100
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>>92409685
>>92409744
I keep linking my post, even when I'm not supposed to.
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>>92396945

No way he is as high deserving as 25, Arnold is a good dude.
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Deserve: 60
Suffer: 55

He's responsible for a lot of nonsense and his own suffering but gets better in the end.
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Alright, OP here... the two 'competing' charts are pretty much at about the same level, and I'm happy to let the other anon complete it if he wants to... What do you guys think?

(haven't had a chance to add anyone after Craig McCracken)
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>>92409844
>>92409844
The one on the left is much better put together if I say myself
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>>92409844
the left one is so full you might as well make that the official one
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Deserved: 10
suffered: 25

just give him his goddamned cereal
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>>92409844
It's alright. I wouldn't even mind it if a few of my suggestions on the right don't make it into the final image.
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>>92409832
God bless Cezar
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>>92391624

Read the comic and seen the film.This is fecking depressing,.

Only "Threads" is more depressing than this
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>>92409422
>Teodora next to Stewie
What the fuck sense does this make? Why is a generally good character so high on deserving and why is a malevolent character so LOW?
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>>92409746
You mean 30 suffering and 80 deserved suffering? Probably. She did have the lusus that threatened to kill her if she didn't feed her corpses, that's a different story from her being ass because she can.


Assuming we're talking post-retcon. Pre-retcon punishment is definitely much closer to what she deserves, considering that she was wandering in dream bubbles, and in spite of efforts, her role in the story's grand schemes started to decrease,
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>>92409947
Yeah, that's what I meant. And yes again, post-retcon. Pre, her suffering might be higher but post got away with basically everything, and had no real positive growth.
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S:40
D:10
The fact that he got married and had kids takes down a lot of suffering points
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Suffering: 5
Deserve: 95

This motherfucker didn't let you see dem wakfu waifu tits.
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>>92409844
Rusty really deserves and suffers way more. The shit that asshole has gone through is crazy
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>>92391594
>united states
You mean United Kingdom.
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Suffered:50
Deserved:0
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Deserved: 5
suffered: 25
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Suffered:70
Deserved:15
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>>92410087
>50
wait what happened
i stopped watching the show
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Suffered: 0
Deserved: I dunno 2bh, he didn't do anything too horrible
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>>92410126
turns out she was liked and had a lot of friends back in high school.
and she lost all of that.
>>
>>92409189
>>92409392
Or his daughter that was murdered and him finding out Mephisto took part of his life in Spider-Man/Deadpool.
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Suffer: 0 to 10
Deserve: 25
She is a thief. She gets out of dangerous situations unscathed. At least for all that has been seen so far.
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What about him?
>>
Suffered: 20/30
Deserved: 100
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>>92410168
he was kind of a dick so 10
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Suffered:55
Deserved:100
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>>92410168
He'd fit 25, he just exists to be an asshole, although a minor one.
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>>92410109
sorry pal I don't think that many stupid muricans know about GOAT blue puppy cartoon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To2csb4eK-o
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>>92409844
I can't find Lord Hater anywhere in the left chart
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>>92410402
A few characters were left out and still haven't been placed on it, yeah.
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>>92410402
yeah he has to be added
hes 40/70
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>>92409458
>>92409490 Moved him a bit to the suffering brat section for accuracy.
>>92409514
>>92409744 Moved her a bit to the normalfag section
>>92409783
>>92409786
>>92409897
Done.

>>92409844
I guess I'll just complete my chart for now then. It was a very cool ideia, OP.
>>
>>92410446
What about this asshole?
>>
>>92409844
We should take some time to locate conflicts and decide which of the characters who are placed on the same spots should stay, leave or be relocated.

also we need to decide on if what is actually acceptable. right is more of a cartoon purest while left is more lenient genre-wise.
>>
>>92410446
>>92410478
That 10; 95 slot looks pretty tempting.
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Suffers 70-75 (treated as an outcast, has no friends, and gets involved in surreal dangers)
Deserves 70-80 (is a pretentious dickhead who makes everything worse and brings all troubles on himself)
>>92409422
Mind adding Shard by on?
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>>92410499
Good observation!

Here's what I have so far... (got up to this guy >>92410446)
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>>92410006
Oops, make it 10, 95 instead.
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>>92410478
is that porn fanart of Nicole?
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I think Shrek would be a good potential entry for (45, 45).
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>>92410176
>high school

she's 10
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>>92410478
i dont see tamatoa
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>>92410566
>TFD that low deserve
nah man, he is everything /co/ hates
>>
Aaand side-by-side:
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>>92410600
sorry,school.i dont know why i put high school.
>>92410566
dude we should just have one chart.if we have 2 flying around we are gonna get confused
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Perhaps Shiro from VLD.
Suffered: 80
Deserved: 10-20
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>>92410626
>Scrappy-Doo deserving more than fucking Rick
>>
>>92410626
look fuck it just put the characters from the right that arent on the left,on the left one,and ignore the ones that are repeating themselves.
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>>92410655
>you don't want that mcnugget sauce
dropped
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Pic related died like 3 times but how much did he actually deserve?
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95 Deserved
55 Suffering
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>>92410626
Rip jack slash. Rest in pieces.

chris chan is only there for the memes of him existing. From what i can see......Why exactly is he getting a 100 suffering score? he's a pampered autist.
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>>92410744
>chris deserves all of his suffering but doesn't actually get enough
A-Log alert
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>>92410672
>>92410637
Petition to put the one on the left as the OP image for next thread
>>
WE'VE REACHED BUMP LIMIT MEN
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>>92410813
signed
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>Grim
Suffering: ~50
Deserving: 0
>mandy
Suffering: ~20
Deserving: ~90
>Billy
Suffering: ~50
Deserving: ~40
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>>92410813
SIGNED
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>>92410680
I still don't see how he deserves more suffering than Rick

>inb4 he's an annoying little shit
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>>92410813
Nay!

Petition to put the one on the right as the OP image for next thread.
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>>92410895
ripped
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>>92410626
Who is the couple in (100,0)?
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>>92410886
Not only is he an annoying little shit, but he also constantly gets the gang into trouble. When he wants to fight the enemy, the gang is forced to keep him at bay. Not only that, but he signified the downfall of Scooby-Doo as a whole.

Also, he was kind of the main villain of the first live-action movie.
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>>92410927
When The Wind Blows
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>>92410296
Well I think what the Clone wars and Ep 3 made him have 90 suffering, from how much they betrayed his character
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>>92411004
>ep 3 betrayed his character
Didn't that introduce him you troglodyte
>>
>>92410626
>ice king is at (15,15)
Are we dismissing the shit he went through as Simon Petrikov?
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>>92410927
0-0 is the pangolin from this year's google valentines day animation game and the 100 is chris chan or possibly jack slash.
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>>92410945
>When he wants to fight the enemy, the gang is forced to keep him at bay. Not only that, but he signified the downfall of Scooby-Doo as a whole.

That's still not enough to warrant a 95, 30-45 would make more sense

>Also, he was kind of the main villain of the first live-action movie.

Are we actually counting that? That movie was terrible with all the characters
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NEW THREAD BOYS:

>>92411017
>>92411017
>>92411017
>>92411017
>>92411017
>>
New chart designer guy from way back when here. Please remember which people haven't been added or properly transferred yet. I apologize to everyone for not getting the transition right the first time. I'm on my way to work, but I will see this continued as soon as I get home. Love you guys.
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>>92411049
Yay.
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>>92411055
>Love you guys.

lol gay
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>>92410478
>Tfw you realize this list isn't going to be accurate when Aku gets slayed next week
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>>92411055
Keep doing what you're doing, it's coming along great!
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>>92411055
No worries, m80

A couple I noticed were Shard (StH) and Razer (GL, TAS), I might have missed some, but you're done a great job keeping up!
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>>92411045
That movie was actually canon, they even referenced it in the cartoon afterwords by having him in the museum of villains. So ya, considering his actions in the movie he's actually evil as shit AND one of the most annoying characters of all time.
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>>92411055
Haha what a fag
I love you more<3
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>>92410004
>>92410006
>>92410122
>>92410168
>>92410240
>>92410296
>>92410446
>>92410558
>>92410599
Done.

Also, I added some signs to help people sort out the characters' places. Try not to use literally_who characters, please.

Fuck, it's getting hard to catch up to you guys. I might have to skip some now. Also, the image file is getting too damn large.
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>>92411375
theres a new thread btw
post it there
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>>92410642
Seconded
Thread posts: 527
Thread images: 247


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