I stopped browsing here for like 2 years at one point and I come back and it's pretty much the same boring old board as it has always been. The tastes are so similar most threads end up circle jerks and they're filled with the same people over and over. It really just needs more variety and people who actually read comics and form opinions on them and less people who don't read comics and just repeat popular opinions
Generals were a bad idea that's made the board meaner and more cubby holed for the questionable value of making it easier for people to hide shit they don't like even though they go to complain about it in thread anyway.
The threads that focus on cool shit and storytimeing are still pretty great. There's more bait then there was a few years ago, and a lot of the shared group stuff like streams and the like has gone elsewhere which is a shame.
Its not the best or the worst place on the internet, like most of 4chan.
>>79761363 I remember when some fag during an argument posted a picture of himself, time stamped, with a sign saying "hello racists of /co/" or something, and he was the spitting image of a tumblr white knight: balding, pasty white, fat, pube stache, peach fuzz beard. It was hilariously sad.
/co/ has always been: left-of center full of manchildren full of women full of gays
/pol/ now derails threads if any such left-of-center or socially liberal opinions end up being expressed. Sure, there are some SJWs on this board, but I don't think they've changed anything like so many paranoid newfags think.
>>79762029 Undoubtedly. It's interesting how 4chan was once fairly apolitical, usually just contrarian, and now there's some weird far-right dogma that seeps in through /pol/ and you get flamed for pointing out that things haven't always been this way.
>>79762035 I wasn't implying it made /co/ different. Just that those 3 were the primary subgroups.
>>79760926 WHAT I THINK OF /co/?? WHAT I THINK OF /co/ ?? is bullshit ! and i only came here because i like pain in everything ..but i don't like bullshit wich /co/ is full of..
first the first ...don't you fags see what is the truth? like...this "/tumblr/ is ruining this board" is pure bullshit to cover the fact that we have been bitching and crying about minor details and following boring ass memes and complaining about every single piece of animated media ever produced specieally if it's popular !! fucking hate everyone of you..i hope you die crying and screaming in trash.
BUT for real...i know /co/ doesn't need factsor proves or source to fall for something..but you know how much of a bitch we have been since forever....luckily for us tumblr appears so we have someone to blame.
>>79762074 The shitposting between cartoons and anime would be hilarious, but I think comics and manga would do alright. Mods/janitors would just have to be strict in enforcing "no clickbait/social media screencap threads".
>>79762155 >Capeshit and kidshit dominating isn't a good thing. Why do you keep using a non-sequitir normative argument? I'm saying you're stupid for complaining about something that is obviously going to be the way things work..
I see it as a reaction to the sort of left-leaning "bias" that runs through Twitter and Tumblr. /pol/ is the closest thing to an "answer" for those sites as anything around here gets, and since /pol/-types can't stay on that board, their virulent strain of right-winger bigotry - whether real or "ironic", doesn't matter which - has infected the entire site.
And it's goddamn hard to have a decent conversation when the average poster wants to be an tryhard edgelord bigot than actually have a rational and reasoned discussion, even when they disagree on a certain point or opinion.
>>79762201 Yeah, I know it's never going to happen but it would be nice to have it. I'm not one of those "LOL CAPESHIT FOR MORONS" fags, there's stuff to enjoy everywhere, but it would be nice to have a place to discuss just non-Big 2 stuff since it tends to drown out everything else.
>>79762230 >bigot You shouldn't use words like that, for one. Any buzzword that SJWs use, accurate though they may be in a given context, can not be used in conversation on 4chan. It's guaranteed multiple vitriolic replies.
>>79762255 >but it would be nice to have a place to discuss just non-Big 2 stuff since it tends to drown out everything else. Y'know, why not make threads on those comics on /co/? It could be a step somewhere as complaining about them not being on here isn't going to achieve anything.
>>79762311 I'm just saying that you don't really have much of a right to complain about not being able to hold a conversation when you invite flaming by tripfagging and using buzzwords you know they hate.
>>79762333 /a/ has manga too, mon. The whole idea of splitting /co/ into comics and cartoons boards is stupid anyway, and the whole merge with their respective /a/ equivalents is even dumber and disregarding the denizens of both boards.
>>79762356 Either way, metathreads are against the rules and yet they have an almost constant presence on /co/.
>>79762336 This. Make the threads if you want em. It's not like /co/ moves that fast. Hell I remember a story-time of a French comic about an animator in North Korea was up for days. Was a good read too, very fascinating subject matter.
/co/ is a slow board. Post the threads and people will populate them.
Waifus, underage kids, nerds, people hating things because people love them, people hating things because they get off on hating already terrible things, porn, generals, cancer, shitposts, off-topic discussion, and degenerates.
>>79762415 But with /a/ it works. Chinese girl cartoons and comics, no complaints there. But /co/ has such a wide variety of fucking cartoons spanning from every fucking which way in the world. Then you add capeshit to the mix and it's a fucking disaster alongside whatever cancerous web comics that's in the ether, it's all just fucking gay.
>>79762523 And yet this board is full of people who stick to discussing those, anyway. Be the change you want to be in /co/ rather than endlessly whining about it, even if that is your thing. If you're not going to do shit about it, then leave.
>>79761326 The whole kerfuffle about MLP really ruined /co/. Still great stuff, mind you, but it really tossed out most any semblance of a community we had and really set a precedence of people bitching about something they don't even care about long enough that other people will go against it due to mob mentality.
It was a really good and nice board ,for the western lovers, but the problem was that it was away too friendly and /co/ left in cancer such as newfags (that don't lurk or learn the board culture), tumblrfags and other internet scum like furries.
Now with the "nerd culture" that the capes movies has promoted, we have to deal with /v/ and /tv/ ledditors too.
If you ask me, the /co/ the country of nowadays is divided with cartoonfags (mostly tumblrfags), moviefags(mostly /v/ and /tv) and comicfags( some old /co/mrades and ledditors)
There is a direct correlation between "SJW shit" and fetish shit. Tumblr is basically nothing but SJW shit and porn. It's the same audience and the come over here and ruin everything for everyone, because their anonymous they can get away with more.
And the mods defacto enforce this. A thread talking about a comic or cartoon dies unless you constantly bump it yourself and a thread talking about something sexual or some fetish will go on and on and on for fucking days. Even though we made /aco/ these threads still won't stop. They won't delete barely on-topic threads about fetishes but they will instantly delete threads talking about anything controversial in actual comics or cartoons. Shows where their priorities are, just like with all SJW it's actually secretly about sex.
A lot of them are probably women, there is nothing more female than avoiding all controversy while praising anything sexual in nature to the high heavens.
But they sure as fuck spam the report button until the mods come, which is very leddit/tumblr of them.
There is no reason to delete those threads, all threads 404 eventually. Just let /co/ take out their anger and frustration. I'm sorry tumblr is too immature to ever share a board with people who aren't jerking themselves off like they are.
You know what I hate about /co/? Dumb off-topic threads like this tend to get lots of attention and be faster than on-topic threads; they're not deleted right away too, which makes people think they're okay to post and do they show up often.
>>79763333 Well gee, why do you think a metathread is good for /co/? All these threads are are just bitching and dumb ideas, and none of it is actual discussion of any comics and cartoons. It's like the people who come into these threads don't actually want to discuss comics and cartoons, especially those who defend them.
Not enough cartoons from my liking, most of the discussion is for currently airing cartoons. I'd like more "indie" or "obscure" discussion, like Waltz with Bashir or My Dog Tulip. Recently someone posted a thread with a new April and her Extraordinary World movie torrent and it never went anywhere.
I also wish the mods were more forgiving of anime in /co/.
>>79763556 >I also wish the mods were more forgiving of anime in /co/. Man, this is the board for literally all animations and comics not from Japan. There's already a board for animations and comics from Japan: /a/.
>>79763734 Well gee, I have stated that they're a waste of space that contributes nothing; they're not on-topic, they're a magnet for the imbeciles of the board, they are full of dumb ideas from said imbeciles, and in spite of all the discussion they achieve nothing. They're nothing but an eyesore, and the fact that they end up staying up for quite a while for deletion only encourages people to post them. Nothing good comes out of these threads and we do not need them. They are not discussions about comics nor cartoons. Can you get it through your thick fucking skull? You keep on complaining about me pointing out why these threads are garbage and yet you don't even bother to argue otherwise.
>>79763857 You know what? I'll fuck off from this shitty thread. You can keep your dumbass metathread. Since you like it so much, why not make this thread be the birth of a general? /co/ General! Discuss /co/ here!
/co needs more storytime and less 'mai waifu' bullshit. Seriously, please stop with the fucking threads of garbage fanpics and do storytime or actually discussing comics/cartoons. Draw threads are bleh but whatever but for the love of fucking god no more waifu bullshit or fucking fumble jerkoff fantasies or whatever. Just go to rule 34 and commence sobbing into soiled tissues so the board can have more comics, and I guess cartoons except those threads usually turn into fucking shit.
>>79762230 We DO get the crazies over here, though. Comics are a battleground the SJW types think they can win on, like vidya.
Yeah, some are trolls, and some might even be those /pol/ false flaggers we're all giving them so much credit for. They all show up here because comic nerds are used to being shit on by people and get defensive super easily; its an easy place to practice more nuanced internet bullshit techniques because of how easy it is to get a reaction.
>>79763556 That's what I meant by streaming dying down, which is more the sites that host's fault than /co/'s but has directly effected our ability to go "hey i'm streaming this if people want to watch." and spread older or rarer toons around that way.
And this is why I am rapidly finding the American left to be just as distasteful as Republicans are. BAWWWWW, ANYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH ME IS A BIGOT! BAWWWW, ANYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH ME HATES JESUS AND AMERICA! It's exactly the same fucking shit from both sides.
Get fucked. You fucks whining "Go back to /pol!" when folks who have been here all along dare to express their opinions about shit are absolutely fucking disgusting.
>BAWWWWW, ANYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH ME IS A BIGOT!
It's entirely possible to disagree with someone on a subject without being a bigot. But when right-wingers express their disagreement with racist in-jokes like "dindu nuffin"...well, even "ironic" racism is still racism.
>folks who have been here all along dare to express their opinions about shit
You can express an opinion without sounding like a bigoted asshole. Example:
>Creative types should be able to write whatever story they want, and they shouldn't be pilloried for any decisions regarding "diversity" *unless* they really fuck things up in that regard (writing a black character who's just a bundle of negative stereotypes, for example).
>>79768390 >It's entirely possible to disagree with someone on a subject without being a bigot. But when right-wingers express their disagreement with racist in-jokes like "dindu nuffin"...well, even "ironic" racism is still racism.
And yet "male tears", "die cis scum", and the frankly racist as fuck shit coming from the Left is beyond reproach. Yeah, no.
And beyond that: It's words. Words won't fucking hurt you. There is no harm that comes from bigotry on the internet. You might be a pussy that gets their panties in a twist, but that's no excuse to curtail peoples' freedom of speech.
>You can express an opinion without sounding like a bigoted asshole. Example:
And simply put, it's not your place to decide that someone "sounding like a bigoted asshole" means he shouldn't be able to talk. I'd say "sorry," but you need to learn to take your offense, and shove it up your ass. Because that is the cost of a free and open exchange of ideas.
Whining about "bigotry" and "hate speech" and bullcrap like that ALWAYS has a chilling effect on the WHOLE discussion.
>>79768390 People bitch about people writing the stories they want anyway. See: all the complaints about faith being fat and SU. Neither side cares about creative freedom, its all about shoving l their political views into everything.
>And yet "male tears", "die cis scum", and the frankly racist as fuck shit coming from the Left is beyond reproach.
No. It isn't. That's all grade-school-level horseshit and it's little-to-no different than the "dindu nuffin" and "LOLJEWS" shit that you'd see on /pol/. (The only difference is the left-winger shitflinging like you're pointing out often targets groups with greater sociopolitical power, whereas right-winger shitflinging often targets maligned portions of the population.)
>Words won't fucking hurt you.
And if I directly called you an idiot to your face once every waking hour of every day for the next ten years, I'm sure you'd feel right as rain once the decade was up! Yeah no, words can be as hurtful as any physical form of violence; just because you can't see the harm done doesn't erase it.
>it's not your place to decide that someone "sounding like a bigoted asshole" means he shouldn't be able to talk
Oh, by all means, feel free to talk. Feel free to paint yourself as a bigoted asshole. Just remember that you're only giving your "opponents" more rope with which they can hang you.
>>79768471 I think the Hillary campaign has been tapping into the gender war zeitgeist pretty fuckin' hard lately, and that's fairly mainstream.
And, granted, I *do* see it criticized-- But a fuck of a lot less in general, and pretty much NEVER by the folks bitching about "right wing bigotry." Just like I never see the folks bitching about the left's lies and hatred take a moment to realize that yeah, they're reading fucking Breitbart and pretending that's an ethical journalistic institution now.
(Hey, take it as an admission, I've dealt with some pretty fucking disgusting folks on both sides of the political divide.)
Privilege is a bullshit concept. The saying "words can be as hurtful as any physical form of violence" really shows your ignorance and lack of experience with physical violence. And mate, it's fuckin' hilarious that you think I'd hang and you wouldn't shortly follow.
>The saying "words can be as hurtful as any physical form of violence" really shows your ignorance and lack of experience with physical violence.
When I was a kid, I was bullied like goddamn - *and* I used to hit other kids for it. Around the time I entered the sixth grade, I stopped trying to be a violent little shit, and I paid for my passivity by getting bullied - physically and verbally - far worse from sixth grade through the eleventh than I did from first through fifth. A decade's worth of bullying will fuck you up, even when you leave school; I not only have a shitload of social anxiety as a result of having virtually no friends in school, but it's hard for me to consistently think well of myself and anything I do in this world after having shitloads of people tell me on a regular basis (and in varying terminology) that I'm a complete fuck-up.
I have *plenty* of experience with violence, physical and psychological.
>it's fuckin' hilarious that you think I'd hang and you wouldn't shortly follow
I least I'd have enough self-awareness to know why I'm hanging. Y'know, right before my neck snaps and all. That...that would put a quick end to my self-awareness, I tell you hwat.
>>79768718 Y'know, that's all nice and cute, but it's an anecdote. I went through some fucking severe as hell bullying throughout all of highschool, and it really didn't fuck me up. No real social anxiety according to my friends, just a few weird habits, but I'm on fucking /co/ so that was a given.
Getting my face flattened and then being stepped on in a mugging certainly did fuck me up, however. I'd wager that would fuck a lot more people up than bullying.
Like, you seriously want to shit on the entire concept of free exchange of ideas-- That glorious, messy, hateful, loving, absolutely mind-blowing process that's better than any drug-- because you got bullied in school.
>Like, you seriously want to shit on the entire concept of free exchange of ideas-- That glorious, messy, hateful, loving, absolutely mind-blowing process that's better than any drug-- because you got bullied in school.
Actually? No, I don't. I'm more than willing to listen to ideas with which I disagree. But that doesn't mean I automatically have to take those ideas seriously, and it doesn't mean I can't point out that some ideas can be construed as bigoted or otherwise (ugh) "problematic". If you're going to champion the cause of "free exchange of ideas" but rip on people who criticise your ideas as being "censors" or "enemies of free speech", you're not much better than the people who think racists should shut up because they're racists.
I say let the racists speak - the more they talk, the more they indict their own ideas. But by the same token, I don't have an obligation to listen, and if the mods/admins here don't want racist bullshit on their site, they have no obligation to allow it. And if you're going to champion the cause of "the free exchange of ideas", you'd better be ready for people to criticise those ideas.
>>79768938 Fair enough then. I'm so goddamn used to folks saying "words can be harmful!" and then IMMEDIATELY moving to censorship that I made an assumption where I shouldn't have. Which, admittedly, DOES make me a hypocrite, given that I was just bitching about that type of assumption.
That said, > I don't have an obligation to listen, and if the mods/admins here don't want racist bullshit on their site, they have no obligation to allow it.
Is... legally correct, but the kind of thing I really do feel undermines valuable traditions with inadequate legal protections in the modern age, such as the right to reply.
>>79768993 Largely true, but irrelevant to the current discussion. Bottom left on the political axis and voting Sanders here.
It's the only place I'd ever want to talk about comics with more than one person. There's a lot of very knowledgeable people, plenty of folk who can give good recommendations even on obscure stuff, storytimes people do out of the goodness of their hearts...it's a fun place Sure, a lot of threads can turn to shit quickly with SJW boogeyman stuff and so on, but I like to think that it's all a big joke that everyone's in on. We ARE all in on it, right?
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