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Good evening owls of /co/,

This crazy train don't stop until #75
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>>79136519
So, umm, that was an eventful solicits thread even if those solicits largely sucked.
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>>79136519
how does that top even work
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>>79136519
Hey storyteller.

That Grayson solicit had me scared for a minute.
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>>79136551
Bloodlines: Why
Lobdell on Titans Hunt: Who cares
Grayson: at least it's a fill in
Everything else: no change
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>>79136551
THe Grayson one was a rollercoaster of emotion

Also I can't believe Lobdell gets to write Titans AGAIN. Second time after getting kicked off the first.
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>>79136519
Hello Storyteller.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAA!
>>79133031

Right, so which of you has the functional sigil magic? Fess up.
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>>79136551
yeah, April is going to be a sucky month

here's to good news soon ;-;
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>>79136557
Very carefully.
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>>79136565
I know, my blood sugar had gotten pretty low after spending the afternoon swearing at plants (justifiably) and when I clicked I got mad

That Bolts poster, though. It better be real. And good.
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>>79136551
>KRUL IS BACK
>TED GRANT IS ALIVE
>APOLLO IS COMING
>KRUL IS BACK
>KRUL IS BACK
>KRUL IS BACK
>KRUL IS BACK
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>>79136668
I want to know what SeeKing are doing now
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>>79136557
>how does that top even work

Skein A: not giving a fuck if she slips nip and B: having total control over fabric
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>>79136778
so yeah, why is Lobdell, why is Tomasi writing a whole crossover himself???
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>>79136668
The wait for DC to announce their new stuff is excruciating.
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>>79136565
>That Grayson solicit had me scared for a minute.
I feel cheated. I thought that shit was cancelled, but it's just getting a new creative team. Lame.
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>>79136824
>why is Tomasi writing a whole crossover himself???
filler/drawer script before new creative teams/relaunches? I cannot imagine that Tomasi will actually be writing four Superman books all by himself
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>>79136824
delicious Songbird

>>79136843
Your disappointment only makes me stronger.
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>>79136843
We know, cranky anon.
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Hello owls and storyteller

>>79136708

Melissa's tits are literally bigger than her head. I don't like this new artist.
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>>79136864

>Kurt Busiek Popped back in on Twitter after taking Katie to the doctor, and the first words I saw were “whiny emo fuckboy pissbabies.” Boo-yah Twitter.
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>>79136824
>why is Lobdell
DC doesn't care about TT even though they pretended to by retconned NTT back in

>why is Tomasi writing a whole crossover himself???
This I don't know. Was Truth even over? Are they panicking over not having Supergirl?
New creative team later?

>>79136841
They usually wait so close to the date. Like a couple weeks before solicits drop, maybe.
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>>79136858
Yeah my guess is he's only doing the one story. Which is going to finally reintroduce Supergirl and shake up the Superman books.
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Great night

>>79136885
Hey Bullski!
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>>79136942
Truth is ending with 50, I think.
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>>79136909
So I will be content if it's Spencer writing the Bolts because he clearly loves them
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>>79136998
but ugh, same old on GL/Wondy/Flash
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>>79136948
>Which is going to finally reintroduce Supergirl
At least they're bringing her back into the picture even if it is in a filler crossover

>>79136996
I think all the new costumes/status quos are ending by their respective #50s except Hal
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>>79137026
'sup /d/
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>>79137075
Man, I know that feeling. "Is this dead? Dormant??"
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>>79137026
GL's solicit said first part of a two part story, and #52 would be the second part...
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Oh, Marvel solicits were today, also.
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>>79136864
Melissa has grown largely immune to bullshit. That's what happens when you hang out with Karla.

>>79136909
Ungrateful bastards.
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>>79136952

Hi double-dees.

How's it hanging?
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>>79137102
so the earliest we could get new blood on GL would be #53

Venditti did say that 50 would direct the next year of GL and he is writing that, so... we're probably still stuck with him
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>>79136909
Haw. Watch out, Busiek, or you're going to turn into a cute old grandpa.
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>>79137116
That Hyperion book might be weirder than it looked to be
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>>79137149
sob
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>>79137148
My podcast might be moving venues because I might have pissed off a few people at my current site.
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>>79136657
Don't look at me, I've been trying to get Genis-Vell back when I noticed that Ultimates had two Captain Marvels.
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>>79137149
Pain
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>The Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. take on the New Avengers!

Kinda one-sided
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>>79137180
also Sheriff getting 12 issues, dang. I bet they are expecting good trade sales.

Apparently Gotham Academy is also safe due to trades
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>>79137186
That's what happens when you start peddling around your taste in men named Steve.
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>>79137217
>also Sheriff getting 12 issues, dang. I bet they are expecting good trade sales.
let's hope

man I hope Omega Men sells in trade ;_;
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>>79137212
Bobbi's seriously outclassed there
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>>79137238
Nope, that's what I get for acting like a glorified blog is a glorified blog haha
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>>79137165
>That Hyperion book might be weirder than it looked to be

It's written by Chuck Wendig tho, I think?

>>79137186

Yeah, by being a disgusting cishet pig?
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>>79137217
They really wanna keep King I guess

Sheriff didn't have the lowest debut but it didn't have the highest either...
At least the Vertigo books aren't dropping like ANAD.
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>>79137217
I bet they are expecting Marvel to start waving around exclusive contracts.
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>>79137279
>Yeah, by being a disgusting cishet pig?

Oh, only slightly haha.
I called other contributor's tastes crap while "reviewing" the site's Best Comics Awards
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>>79137217
>Apparently Gotham Academy is also safe due to trades
DAMMIT. Why can't all this crap just die already.
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>>79137297
>At least the Vertigo books aren't dropping like ANAD.
well, to be fair they didn't have variants or an overhyped launch and weren't attached to an event

I imagine like Image books and stuff the Vertigo books probably have better sales retention since people don't pick them up for collection or continuity purposes, they pick them up because they look good
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>>79137279
It is, but I'm all happy to be surprised by a weird angle on a book, you know?

>>79137297
I've seen a lot of 'meh' about this round of Vertigo books, including some "Karen Berger would have done better" nostalgie
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>>79137371
Why are you so flustered today, cranky anon? just chill out
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>>79137371
Because the world hates you, cranky.
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>>79137384
>I've seen a lot of 'meh' about this round of Vertigo books, including some "Karen Berger would have done better" nostalgie
I've also seen some "if these were worth their salt they'd be Image books instead" and people just writing them off like that

I don't know that any of them are INSTANT VERTIGO CLASSICS!!! but for the most part they are pretty solid books
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>>79137404
new sexual harassment champion!

>>79137374
I'm still a bit head-shaking about how short All-New X-Factor was, because PAD books may stabilize low, but they're stable.
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>>79137384
There's a lot of great titles going on at Vertigo right now though.
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>>79137212
Apparently the New Avengers and SHIELD issues will be the same events but from the other perspective.
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>>79137465
Not meant as a comment on their quality, I've just noticed some reception being phrased like that.

>>79137450
People really don't understand how different Image works to publish, do they
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>>79137356

Uh. Wait. Is this some kind of hugbox site or what?

>>79137384
>It is, but I'm all happy to be surprised by a weird angle on a book, you know?

Wendig has only written one thing that I read, and it was the absolutely terrible Star Wars novel "Aftermath" that came out last year.

Then Wendig attacked anyone criticizing the novel for any reason claiming that they were just homophobes because it had a gay protagonist. He had some FASCINATING twitter rage wars going.

The man gives me very bad vibes.
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>>79137374
Yeah
It's just nice to see books that drop 2k between #1 and #2 as opposed to 20k or 200k.

>>79137384
>"Karen Berger would have done better" nostalgie
Seen that too.
I don't think people are gonna be very happy or impressed should any of the books end up as a tv show or movie. I know news of Unfollow possibly getting picked up by ABC caused some mumbling.
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>>79137519
>People really don't understand how different Image works to publish, do they
Judging by the sheer number of people I have seen wondering "Why would you ever publish at Vertigo instead of Image????" apparently not
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>>79137519
I got it, I was just nothing how it's a shame people write off titles due to the logo of what company they have on their cover.
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>>79137549
I guess so.
I've been there for ages and just never taken it seriously.

And then I notice that I was "hurting the site's rep".
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>>79137401
>just chill out
Blow me.

>>79137404
>Because the world hates you
Clearly. You know, I used to love GA, before that shitstain abomination had to show his awful face in it.
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>>79137591
obligatory: ;__;

>>79137567
>"Why would you ever publish at Vertigo instead of Image????"
because you like to be paid more regularly instead of fronting a lot of expenses, I know, right?
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>>79137519
Creators at Image still have to pay their own publishing costs upfront or something like that, right?
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>>79137593
It's not a big deal but it kind of feels like a lot of Image fans have a bit of an elitist streak
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>>79137560
Eh, I don't know, Descender was picked up for a movie deal before the first issue even came out. Still a great comic.
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>>79137567
Yeah I don't think those people get how much safer it is to just go to Vertigo.
Some of the new books have writers that haven't even been writing comics long, so they'd lose a lot trying to get published at Image, even with the same book.
And it seems DC has gotten a lot of new talent from Vertigo over the past couple years. King and Amy Chu being a couple.
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>>79137672
Descender is worth a read?

>>79137696
Right, go to Image with nothing under your belt, and sell maybe a thousand copies with all your own money sunk in it
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>>79137729
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>>79137729
Yup, pretty Sweet Tooth-ish. And the Nguyen watercolors are outstanding.
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>>79137696
They do good scouting with those anthologies.
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>>79137754
And now back to Cosmic Shit on Counter-Earth
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>>79137912
>mfw they took the Zemo cover shot out of the recap page
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>>79137977
>everyone wakes up
>fixer, your hand was WHERE?
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>>79137932
The "eating the planet from within and starting with Tokyo" plot reminded me unpleasantly of what happened to the 5YL Earth.
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>>79138025
Always be afraid of a vengeful Giffen
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>>79138049
speaking of Giffen that's totally Larfleeze on JL3001 cover, yes?
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>>79138116
Yep, confirmed by JMD on twitter
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>>79138116
It's gotta be
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>>79138152
"Yes, Karla is wonderful."
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>>79138152
Nigh-Omnipotent Karla. This won't end poorly, can it?
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>>79138152

Karla, that costume really isn't you.
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>>79138205
I wouldn't stand in front of Fixer like that

>>79138224
Shenanigans are guaranteed.
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>>79138278
I love wind-swept hair in comics. Shit doesn't do that IRL, but who cares, it looks cool.
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>>79138326
look at that fucking eyebrow game

How are you owls today? I got the asparagus patch almost done. Never-a-fucking-gain.
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>>79138369
>How are you owls today? I got the asparagus patch almost done. Never-a-fucking-gain.
I'm having one of those "drink at home by yourself" days
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>>79138396
I know that feeling
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>>79138369
>Earth's Mightiest Heroes
Oh Zemo.
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>>79138369
I finished downloading my Captain Britian torrent, and UPS apparently failed to deliver my Hellblazer Paperback Collection.
So good and bad.
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>>79138419
I can't say I do it very often, but I'm four bloody marys in and I feel great now
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>>79138369
>How are you owls today?
Highly confused. People keep calling me Alex for some reason. I don't get it.
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>>79138420
He loves it, you can tell

I hope he's in the Citizen V costume again, because pulling that keikaku off repeatedly is wonderful. On anyone else it would be annoying.

>>79138464
I have a fondness for box wine I'm not ashamed to admit
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>>79138369
Other than the short burst of fear I had in the solicits thread, I've been okay today

My cat actually wanted to go outside so I didn't have to listen to her meow when I got home
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>>79138508
>I hope he's in the Citizen V costume again
You know what would be AMAZING? If the next time Marvel announced a second Captain America, it ended up being Zemo.
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>>79138369
>How are you owls today?

Decent. Never agree to troubleshoot computers for your parents. This bears repeating.

>>79138452

Everything Captain Britain related?
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>>79138369
Pretty good.
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>>79138570
>Everything Captain Britain related?
I don't know, but it looks like a lot of content.
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>>79138570
>Decent. Never agree to troubleshoot computers for your parents. This bears repeating.
My grandparents always think that just because I USE a computer all the time means I somehow know how to fix it

I mean, I drive a car all the time too but it doesn't make me a mechanic
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>>79138570
>Never agree to troubleshoot computers for your parents
You haven't learned that yet?
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>>79138567
That would be such top-notch trolling it couldn't possibly happen

>>79138570
Hah, I do that enough to know better
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>>79138637

I just wanted to be helpful, Dave.

>>79138615
>>79138650

Yeah, it's one of those THINGS.

>>79138614

Hey cool, the Marvel UK stuff is pretty good once they get to the Avalon stuff. the early stuff is hilariously bad.
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>>79138717
>I just wanted to be helpful, Dave.
Oh, well that's cool.
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>>79138650
>That would be such top-notch trolling it couldn't possibly happen
We'd need Steve to vanish for a while, and then a new Captain America to show up. He never removes his mask, but we can see the blonde hair and blue eyes peeking out from under it, and the original Kite Shield.
Then Zemo pulls a Dio.
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>>79138650
FIXERRRRR
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>>79138508
>I hope he's in the Citizen V costume again, because pulling that keikaku off repeatedly is wonderful.

New universe same con
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>>79138717
>I just wanted to be helpful, Dave.
And that was your first mistake. Never help anyone, since it only results in the situation becoming worse, and you personally getting the shaft.
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>>79138637
My mom put me through my CS degree, I can't say no. She lives down the hill from the cable company, though, and she realized ON HER OWN she can just drive 5 minutes and get them to provision her modem in person. 10/10 parent.
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>>79138787
Exactly! It's so audacious and if done with style it's somehow not annoying like other reheated plots are.

So right now: Karla's Scary Team Mom, Zemo's Team Dad, Fixer's Pervert Uncle, Mach-2 is Responsible Older Brother...
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>>79138868
I think he's Mach-3 now.
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>>79138936
I can never keep track

>>79138954
>the natural face of a Zemo encountering a Bucky
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>>79139020
Oh, it's THIS plot.
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>>79139245
HAH!
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>>79139091

Fucking incursions.
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>>79139281
At least there are no ayy lmaos this time
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>>79139330
DAMMIT HELMUT

So this leaves the Death's Head II teaser pic, and I'll eat a hat if that's not a Si Spurrier gig.
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>>79139307
i'd take a race of Lmaos over doomwank and the transformers rejects that killed Thor and Hyperion.
and yes, i'm still mad about this
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>>79139307
>No prob, I got a telepath in my pocket.
....I need to get a new hobby. I can't be putting up with this crap much longer.
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>>79139401
The page with the Beyondry was simple perfection

"Bendis will still be on GOTG"
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>>79139502
>....I need to get a new hobby
you should, it would be good for you
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>>79139522
AHA!
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>>79139502
Anon, this kind of cheese is why modern comics are so lifeless. Most writers are too afraid to have silliness like that.
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>>79139554
kek
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>>79139554
God, standing like that cannot be comfortable. At least Spidey has super powers to explain it, sorta.
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>>79139605
>whoops we did kind of forget about her
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>>79139664
So maybe someone will ignore that Sable is dead and just retcon punch her back into a good comic now
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>>79139307
>>79139401
>>79139522

That was gold. And yeah the original was stupid.

I hate how Marvel are super lazy with defininig what the difference is between the new MU and the old one, too.
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>>79139745
Breevort's going to pry 616 out of our cold dead hands
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>>79139724
>six figure amount of your choice
Might as well just say 999,999.
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Well apparently Steve is gonna be back as Cap in a few months
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>>79139770
it's just an easy reference number! there's no way I'm calling the main Marvel earth Prime Earth, DC already claimed that long ago
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>>79139770

Brevoort is such a cynic old shit at this point. He should have stayed at making sure old stuff got put into tpb's which was his job in the 90's.
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>>79139821
All New, All Different!
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>>79139821
I'm shocked
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>>79139529
I know. The headaches might finally stop. But other hobbies are expensive, and I ain't made of money.

>>79139559
>Stupid bullshit is a good thing.
Spare me. I don't particularly feel like having this inane argument where you defend silly comic book antics while I have to endure the pain of my head bleeding from the industrial grade stupid leaking out of your fat mouth.
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>>79139821
who could have seen this coming!
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>>79139821
>in a few months
Is anyone surprised he would be back before his new movie?
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>>79139821
In a few months, around when the most anticipated movie of the summer, Captain America: Civil War, is coming to box offices? What a shocking development.
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>>79139855
>>79139858
Might make it in time for Civil War II
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>>79139880
>Spare me. I don't particularly feel like having this inane argument where you defend silly comic book antics while I have to endure the pain of my head bleeding from the industrial grade stupid leaking out of your fat mouth.
You COULD just leave

I mean, I know we've been over this before, but... you could leave

>>79139855
Having two Caps IS different! Excelsior!
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>>79139880
Cranky? You wanna put on a trip so the rest of us can filter you? No one's making you stay here if all you wanna do is bitch.
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>>79139900
>>79139902
Not to mention back in time for the event that is also happening around the time of the movie
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>>79139880
Comic books are expensive if you actually buy them. You know you can steal other stuff.
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>>79139938
Clint you are fucking insane
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>>79139923
speaking of extra caps, what's U.S. Agent been up to lately?
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>>79139975
Steve Cap and Sam Cap can be on opposite sides of Civil War! If he's not a grandpa anymore is he still going to be a cranky fascist dick?
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>>79140021
I don't think he's been spotted since he got fixed by Toxie Doxie, lemme check the db
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>>79139976
I must have stopped paying attention to new Big 2 stuff for a while, when did $5.99 singles become a thing? I saw them in the April solicits

Paying that for 20 pages including ads is a joke
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Hey thread

everything happened today huh

hopes for King/Seeley's new project, wary about ANADBolts, Steve and Sam but no Bucky.

and movie shit soon
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>>79139976
Still not over how all of marvel is 3.99

I'm wondering when they're gonna push for a 4.99 title...
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>>79140041
January 2015:
Avengers World (2014) #15

February 2015:
Avengers World (2014) #16

June 2015:
Wolverines (2015) #13

I bet these are mostly like one-panel things, sadly
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>>79140049
>hopes for King/Seeley's new project
I wanna know what that is so bad

Weekly?
Event?
Crossover?
New creative team on a big book?
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>>79140111
HMMMMM
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>>79140087
Already did, check the 40-pagers.
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>>79140042
My mistake $4.99
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>>79140024
Steve's not allowed to be wrong, and Carol's side is the wrong side.
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>>79140140
Crime Syndicate starring Dick as Talon?
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>>79140159
The Carol fandom is gearing up for outrage already

it's gonna be gud
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>>79140111

>the green is scared

Okay come on now Fabian, you're just blatantly copying Swamp Thing now.
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>>79140111
No he was part of the Avengers team that was helping Inverted Doom against inverted Scarlet Witch in the Avengers World issues.
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>>79140140
It's gotta be something limited, because they only need a few months off Grayson to do it.
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>>79140204
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>>79140146
Oh I was talking about 32 pagers

Ms Marvel and She Hulk were the last 2.99 books for 32 pages, then She Hulk got cancelled and Kamala relaunched
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>>79139938
>Cranky? You wanna put on a trip so the rest of us can filter you? No one's making you stay here if all you wanna do is bitch.
My lack of anything better to do is making me stay here.

>>79139923
You could stop being a fucking pussy. But that's not gonna happen either.
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>>79140239
oh, okay, good

that Al Roker joke, hee

>captcha gives me a picture of 'Owl Rd'
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>>79140204
> people who weren't buying the comic are mad about the new comic they aren't buying

It sounds so familiar
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>>79140049
>but no Bucky.
I wouldn't be surprised if he actually does die in CWII

>>79140087
They put out a shitload of 4.99 and above books

if they add two extra pages to something they'll bump it up to 4.99
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>>79140024
Aren't the sides Iron Man and Captain Marvel?
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>>79140268
You're a joy and a pleasure to have around.
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>>79140296
Captain Falcon was shown on Tony's side wasn't he?
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>>79140268
>You could stop being a fucking pussy. But that's not gonna happen either.
Hey, you're the one that can't understand why people like things you don't like and you throw fucking fits about it, don't tell me to man up you whiny piece of shit
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>>79140296
They seem to be the basic conflict, yeah

but I assume superheroes will arbitrarily be assigned to either side, and you can't have TWO CAPS on one side
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>>79140333
>Hey, you're the one that can't understand why people like things you don't like
Because they refuse to explain when asked. It's fucking baffling. There would be no issue if people around here had the ability to articulate their goddamned emotions.
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>>79140292

I want Bucky to fake die again so bad now. Why would Carol kill him tho

>>79140140

People are talking about Dickbats which has me interested. I didn't realize we were hitting the 3rd Grayson trade
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>>79140562
>Because they refuse to explain when asked
They do, you just ignore it because it doesn't fit your perception that the things they like are illogical or whatever
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>>79140586
>I didn't realize we were hitting the 3rd Grayson trade
the first and second trade both come out tomorrow don't they? that's probably a good idea
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>>79140562
Every single time someone explains you brush them off. When it's enough people doing it and getting the same result, it's not them, it's you.
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>>79140698
CW2 death pool, get your bets in now
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>>79140586
>I didn't realize we were hitting the 3rd Grayson trade
I think we're past that and ready for a 4th trade
#9-12 + Superbro Annual is probably gonna be 3rd trade
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>>79140762
I'm down for Rhodey and Bucky
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Rhodey/Bucky is either/or I don't think both.

>>79140775

3rd was solicited today

>issues #9-12, ANNUAL #1 and the Sneak Peek story from CONVERGENCE: HAWKMAN #2
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Oh my lord.

So Spencer is writing both Steve: Cap and Sam: Cap books, and we are now officially in FULL-ON UNDO REMENDER'S RUN mode.

I mean just fucking look.

>Steve is faced with a resurgent threat from his past: Hydra is back, and stronger than ever."

>FUTILITY
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>>79140888

oh hey bucky's there in the background
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>>79140762
bucky, because Marvel is doing nothing with him right now
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>>79140762
Vision, issue 6 being the end of the first arc suggests it'll be a 12 issue mini which will come out while the big event is still happening.
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>>79140888
>Hydra

Again?
I know that's their name but come on...
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>>79140888
that costume sucks

that logo sucks

Sam Cap is probably going to be cancelled by like issue #8
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>>79140913
Spencer just tweeted to not miss that Bolts teaser

damn, that'd be what, four books?
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>>79140979

They've been in the MOVIES, anon!

>>79140939

I thought that was him but the preview is so tiny I can't tell.
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>>79140865
>Grayson vol 1, 2, and 3 tpbs in the same year

Ow my wallet
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>>79141064
We knew this was coming! Leaders past and present...
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>>79140865
>tfw three good trades before possibly getting ruined by the 4th

That's pretty good for Dick.
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>>79141064

right! I was wondering before the Steve news if he could do T-bolts.

does he have any indie work
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>>79140888
>FULL-ON UNDO REMENDER'S RUN mode.

B-but Zemo! he and Jet haven't shown up yest since right before AXIS
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>>79141095
two issues left
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>>79141203
Zemo was in full-on "fuck with Cap as brutally as possible" mode in the one volume of Remender FalCap, so who knows what happened from there.
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>>79141192
>does he have any indie work
there was supposedly a book with Lieber for Image, that was announced a couple years ago but has yet to materialize
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>>79141253
aargh why did the lettering change?
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there's a Legends of Tomorrow sale on comixology if you wanna get cheap books starring that cast like the one good Atom story Sword of the Atom or all 89 issues of The Fury of Firestorm
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>>79141304
he's in zero fucks given mode

>>79141278
The Fix! I believe in it. It will happen.
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>>79141363
I grabbed Sword of the Atom
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>>79141373
This is great. "I need someone to argue with." Karla's really incomplete on her own, that's a key to making her work as a character.
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>>79141363
Legends of Tomorrow has a comic tie-in?

Of course it does.
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>>79141304
Early 00s, all-caps was antiquated, lower-case letters were in.
I like how they eventually backpedaled on that and only kept the lower-case in the Ultimate line.
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>>79141481
No, it's just a sale of old comics.
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>>79141463
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>>79141481
no, they just combined those minis they announced at SDCC into one book
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>>79141562
.... There's a preexisting Legends of Tomorrow comic?
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>>79141518
It just shifted suddenly, it's unnerving.

"I don't know and I don't care."
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>>79141638
Did you read the comment? It's stuff starring the characters, like old Atom comics and old Firestorm comics.
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>>79141654
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>>79141638

Sales for the various characters. So Hawkman and Hawkgirl and Atom and Firestorm and Rip Hunter and Canaries
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>>79141638
No

Firestorm, Atom, Black Canary, etc have had solos and minis before.

Those are on sale should anyone be interested.
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>>79141693
no it's not, it's new material
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>>79141693
and all of Johns et al. Hawkman
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>>79141753
Let me anti-rec Green Arrow/Black Canary. It's a miserable slog of a book despite some really good art.
>>
I just realized that both this run of Thunderbolts, and the last one (pre-Red Hulk, but you know that counts as much as Fightbolts) both sort of ended after putzing around with two teams on different worlds/time periods for way too long.

Truly pottery.
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>>79141804
>bad writing
>good art
Why does this seem to happen often
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>>79141804
there was like, two good scenes

but yeah most if it was bad
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>>79141804
Hitting a nerve!

I really enjoy scenes where characters tear emotional strips off each other. End of Tchaikovsky's Yevgeny Onegin, best operatic example.

>>79141892
seriously it's a waste of Cliff Chiang
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>>79141906
There's a few funny bits but it's mostly misery, it ends badly, and it puts characters on the boat for no good reason/way
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>>79141991
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>>79141849

George Lucas - consultant
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>>79142042

is Stuart Immonen still tied up on SW?
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>>79142067
Okay, that's how you get through to him--speak German.
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Digger looks awesome in the new SS trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih_VtVAs
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>>79142115
guilt trip whammy!

>tfw no Daredevil facing the wrong way
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>>79142209
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>>79142120

I don't like that he looks crazy and not just a prick but that joke with the beer is maybe the best part of the trailer and def the best joke. Enchantress looks REALLY cool too

overall tho that movie looks so damn goofy
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>>79142246
I think that it's so goofy is why I'm digging it.
Of course there's no doubt that I'll find some scenes to fall flat, but Digger (scuffy aside) just is amping it.
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>>79142067
He's doing a thing with Millar. It's in the Marvel April solicits.
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>>79142120
okay, this is gonna be a brew'n'view movie
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>>79142392
Millar pays really well, I hear. And good rights.
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>>79142441
and there's like a 90% chance you'll get paid for movie options
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>>79142441
;_________;
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>>79142441
50/50 rights.

>>79142394
Definitely.
Matinee prices at late night showings.
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>>79142441
You've got 50/50 odds of it turning into a movie and rolling in sweet hollywood $$$.

>Imagine you're married to the worst bad guy from your favorite sci-fi movie. An alien dictator feared throughout the universe, who will kill you if you leave -- but you need to escape for the sake of your three children. All you have are your wits, your bodyguard, and three guns. Welcome to EMPRESS, your new favorite comic.
This is the thing.
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>>79142480
I keep meaning to go to my local because they brew their own, and this is the kind of movie that 4 beers would enhance
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>>79142471
Frank Quitely says he's living as a drug kingpin with his share of the Jupiter's rights.
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>>79142441
It's always a 50/50 deal when it comes to rights
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>>79142513
so Jolt stays. We'll miss you, Hallie.

>>79142508
huh
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>>79142508
Capullo is also doing a mini with Millar this year.

>>79142513
Really?
Haha, I'd have to go before hand.
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>>79142517
Morrison must seethe every day.
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>>79142557
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>>79142517
Good saw an old interview where he said during All Star Superman he was worried he would lose his house
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>>79142517

Yeah, well-written creator owned rights are the tits for comics creators. Millar is an easy meal ticket.

Honestly I'm just happy he's through the phase where he only wrote stupid shocker schlock to sell copies.
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>>79142598
HERE WE GO!
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>>79142619
LAST ISSUE!

for now.
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>>79142610
Same.
Although Chrononauts SUCKED.
I mean, it did. It so did.

>>79142602
Yeah. It's good.

>>79142597
There's a pic of Millar and Frank drinking tea in bed
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>>79142711
There's actually a lot more Bolts to come until it hits Ellis time, but that'll be another time.

btw I'm going out of town soon but I'll try to keep schedule
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>>79142474
>tfw daughterfu is gone forever
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>>79142610
>>79142655
Was MPH any good, Fegredo's art got me interested
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>>79142648

Bye bad logo!
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>>79142557
>so Jolt stays. We'll miss you, Hallie.
Speaking of which, the new Thunderbolts series will apparently feature a new daughteru. We know anything about her?

Seriously, this happens often enough in T-Bolts to be an official thing.
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>>79142750
I know :(

IT'S MAGENTA.
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>>79142751
It's simple.
Has a good character core and is generally just feel good.
For a Fantastic Four riff...could have used more interplay, but overall decent.

Chrononauts just shocked me with out NOTHING it was.
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>>79142655
>There's a pic of Millar and Frank drinking tea in bed
What a slut
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>>79142780
Stereo bosses--more like each other than they'd admit
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>>79142655
>Although Chrononauts SUCKED.

Plenty of Millar comics sucked, Dave.
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>>79142655
It's all Grant can see when he closes his eyes at night.
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>>79142824
Watkins kinda mad

He kinda got reason to be, to be fair, even if it was all Techno's fault
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>>79142828
Very true. I'm not debating that.

I was merely stating that it was just so unabashedly bad in terms of plot structure.
Even Wanted had more meat on it's bones.
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>>79142780
It's the exact same color as Clint's costume, he really can't mock.
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>>79142869
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>>79142655
Honestly, if Millar wrote comics that ran as either actual on goings or for more than just five issues I think he'd have some good shit coming out.
But he insists on turning pretty much all his recent comics into movie pitches, and they really suffer quality wise. I think the last one I really enjoyed was Starlight.
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>>79142894
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>>79142943
>either actual on goings or for more than just five issues I think he'd have some good shit coming out.
well, as we learned last night, apparently working on long form stuff in the current market fucking sucks
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>>79142988
I missed last night, what did we learn?
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>>79142780
AH! This colorist needs to settle the hell down.

>>79142828
For example his Youngblood run, the first issue of which Storyteller made us read.

Storyteller's a bit of a sadist.
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>>79142943
I don't know, you definitely have more of a set plan with Jupiter's Saga, which he plans to run for 34 issues in total.

Definitely agreed though.
Starlight hit that old pulpy core perfectly...when length wasn't an issue.
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>>79142984
BTFO
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F
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oh yeah, we did skip that second mini that presumably explains shit with them
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>>79143022
Fixer, don't stick your dick in crazy and probably homocidal
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>>79143012
I'm shocked that his Youngblood has fans.
And I have the bad rep around here haha.
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>>79143061
look on the bright side: all the hipsters are probably underwater too
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>>79143012
>Storyteller's a bit of a sadist.

Y-yeah, she really is. I m-mean surely nobody PUT HER UP TO THAT! That would just be c-crazy wouldn't it!

>>79142872

I didn't actually read it yet.

>>79142984

B A S E D
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>>79143098
You're slipping Bullski.
Haha.

You finish Starlight though?
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>>79142988
Also the chain of tweets from a retailer named Big Bang comics about how relaunches just kill new reader interest.
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>>79143011
basically a couple creators saying that doing long form stuff sucked

like, Layman said it about Chew
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>>79143017
Yeah, Starlight was good but it needed at least two more issues just to round things out. I felt like Duke just jumped back into action too quick, we needed an issue of him relearning how to be an intergalactic hero. And we needed more about the Resistance and the Kingfisher's too. It all just wrapped up too quickly and cleanly.
And yeah, Jupiter's Legacy was actually pretty enjoyable, it's just a matter of him ever actually finishing it. The fact that we're on Jupiter's Circle part 2 but we haven't heard jack about the main series is hilarious. Although I guess part of that is Quietely, his art may be beautiful but it clearly has a price.
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>>79143147
d'awww
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>>79143162
Oh, I think we had this chat before.
I remember someone mentioning they thought that it needed 2 more issues.
I can see how that might have helped, but I don't see it that way.

I liked how it gets right into the nit and gritty. If anything, at least one. Maybe to show him training some more. But that would be it.
As for how it wrapped up? Pitch perfect to me.

We have heard about the main series. We got a preview back in November or so.
Coming back this Spring.
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>>79143011
Layman, Seeley, Marz, and some others were tweeting about how depressing it is to do a long ongoing where sales keep falling regardless of quality and the press stop paying attention because it's not new.
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>>79143063
>I'm shocked that his Youngblood has fans.
What. Bullshit, that doesn't have fans. Right?

>>79143098
>Y-yeah, she really is. I m-mean surely nobody PUT HER UP TO THAT! That would just be c-crazy wouldn't it!
.... Comrade. Is there something you like to say? Because I still have nightmares about that hot tub scene.
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>>79143224
What he really wants is a percentage, we know this.
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>>79143123

Yep. Still don't have Storm Queen of Valkir.

>>79143147

Man-Killer shows up in Fightbolts with no trace of anything ever having happened with her. I still don't get that relaunch. I bet Bill Jemas or Quesada did it.
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>>79143011
Layman (Chew) and some other creators lamented how terrible doing long form comics is.

All the variants, relaunches, events, crossovers, etc really bleed retailers dry and they often have to cut back on other titles.
So things like Chew start losing units/sales each month.
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>>79143241
>I remember someone mentioning they thought that it needed 2 more issues.
Yeah, that sounds like it was me. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it, and the ending was great, I just wanted more.
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>>79143242
Busiek noted the problems too, with writing long form and getting the "This is as good as ever!" and nothing more in the reviews/not getting noticed anymore.

Including Fightbolts and Dark Avengers, and not even including the essential minis, we got 190 issues of Thunderbolts. Fuck, guys, what today will rack up those numbers that's not Spidey/Avengers/Batman?
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>>79143251
When Liefeld did his Q&A on the forum there was a few people who asked about when he and Millar would finish the mini.
And a few times since then.

>>79143294
>Yep. Still don't have Storm Queen of Valkir.
Someday.
Did you hear about the Sequel?

>>79143302
Well, you hear about the sequel then?
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>>79143251
>.... Comrade. Is there something you like to say? Because I still have nightmares about that hot tub scene.

I may or may not have been feeding storyteller SoP suggestions with lurid descriptions of what happens in them. I may or may not have told her about Youngblood. I cannot confirm or deny.
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>>79143254
>fixer spying in on Dallas/Erik makeout sessions.
why am i not surprised he would do that
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>@TomKingTK
>@bradmeltzer thank you so much sir. You don't know what that means to me. You were an inspiration for me getting into this business.

Well that's Meltzer's existence on this earth justified, I guess.
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>>79143330
when are we getting that Secret Invasion storytime of pain, huh OP?
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>>79143294
>I bet Bill Jemas or Quesada did it.
Yeah, they thought another Milligan/Allred X-Force-style book-takeover would work, but you can't catch lightning in a bottle.
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>>79143330
he's 100% guilty
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>>79143254
You know, seeing how well she fills out that bikini I honestly can't blame Fixer for wanting to plug his USB into it.
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that wonder woman footage looked gorgeous

even through the bad quality http://comicbook.com/2016/01/18/wonder-woman-sneak-peek-footage-released/
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>>79143353
his Green Arrow was bretty good and I liked his JLA

shame about Identity Crisis though
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>>79143322
>Well, you hear about the sequel then?
Oh yeah, you mentioned that! Probably last time we had this conversation. Have we heard anything new about it?
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>>79143354
>when are we getting that Secret Invasion storytime of pain, huh OP?

Yeah.
This is what I want too.
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>>79143359
talking ass shot!

>>79143354
>>79143401

when I'm not abstaining from hooch, guys. I ain't doing that sober.

I will run Dark Avengers for you, though.
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>>79143330
Ugh. Well, I ain't too mad at you. I was the one who asked her to do Amazons Attack.

That, was a mistake.
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>>79143422
hee, I did AA twice
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>>79143398
Well, we finished the scripts last summer along with American Jesus: The New Messiah.

We should hear more in the spring.
Millar likes to announce stuff in groups.

>>79143414
I am also scouring for 4 dollar Crossing omnis to raffle off this year
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>>79143431
so Fixer is blowing up chemical weapons depots for the lulz?

>>79143438
That's just hateful, Dave :D
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>>79143414
Damn, Karla's just the gift that keeps on giving.
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>>79143464
no one here is triggered, I hope
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>>79143464
It was the BEST SoP.

In fact, to win the raffle you will have to answer a PLOT RELATED QUESTION
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>>79143380
>we still haven't heard Wonder Woman speak

Pls
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>>79143464
>Saddam having WMD
Haha good one FabNic.
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>>79143509
>>79143509
I don't think Superman's spoken at all in the BvS trailers either

I'm still upset that Chris Pine isn't Hal
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>>79143485
Hey, there's one speculation answered.
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>>79143547
I'm upset that Chris Pine will most likely be dead
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Better quality Wondy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Ur4De7yT8
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>>79143592
You can just feel the male ego in the room
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>>79143494
>It was the BEST SoP.
..... Dave. Pls.

I honestly still don't quite understand what the was going on. The Crossing was so bad that it was retconned as some Kang/Immortus trolling the everlasting shit out of everyone.
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>>79143575
I will riot if he isn't play Steve Trevor I and Steve Trevor IV or something

why would you waste him on a role set entirely in the past, the JL needs a present day Steve too
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>>79143641
lol whaaat
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>>79143639
I hope for either that or, Eastwood is Steve Trevor II
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>>79143663
That's right, Clint. Go and leave Zemo and Karla to their own devices. Nothing can go wrong, now!
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>>79143639
Why have a present day Steve when you can do WonderBat?
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>>79143547
I hope we get the guy from Castle to be Hal.
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>>79143670
But Eastwood's gotta be Dick
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>>79143592
Plantman is almost literally Swamp Thing now isn't he.
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>>79143638
That's why it was the best!

It was like the holy grail of incomprehensibility.
It transcends badness.

>>79143702
Sure.
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>>79143694
;___;
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>>79143617
Pfft. When are they going to bust out the rulers?
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>>79143695
Because WonderBats is a disgusting abomination, anon

>>79143700
Fillion? He's probably a bit too old for DCEU Hal

I want Matt Bomer for Hal
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>>79143639
>>79143670

implying he won't get immortality/long life greek magic shit

>>79143558
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>>79143700
Too douchey. Too old.
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>>79143746
That would also be cool
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>>79143723
It's because you're too smart to trust him, Dallas

...so what if Karla met Vril, but she brought Helmut WITH her?
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>>79143663
>chattel
Villain or hero, Zemo is still a pretentious bastard.

>Kevin Costner
...... Okay.
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>>79143787
Still ends in traumatizing sex.
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>>79143732
They're totally going to do it, though.
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>>79143723
>tfw Karla still turns evil anyway
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>>79143839
STRATEGIC SHADOWS!

and essential dick joke
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>>79143695
Anon, I WILL slap you upside your head so hard you will regress into the womb.

Don't you even joke about that.
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>>79143732
>>79143761
Old, maybe.
Douchey? Hal is kind of a douche. KIND OF, unlike Guy who's a raging asshole.
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>>79143849
no they will not, that would be terrible
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>>79143925
>Atlas got his pants back very quickly
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>>79143918
You need a super and likable charming actor to pull off Hal's slight doucheyness. We learned that lesson from Reynolds.
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>>79143986
And Abe's look will vary from artist to artist from here on out!
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>>79143986
And then no one heard anything about Cardinal/Harrier ever again.
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>>79143924
How does it being terrible in any way make it less likely? We're talking about DC movies.
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>>79144015
>New Coke joke
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>>79144015

Yeah, I don't think anyone could ever decide if he changed his skin color again, could they?
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>>79144050
uhoh!
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>>79144015
I swear to god, I thought Abe was white in Parkerbolts and Superior Foes.
Was I wrong? I'm so confused.
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>>79144097
Shit's still going down! Would I leave you with a cliffhanger?

Yep.

Thanks for reading, owls. Tomorrow it's time for THREEBOOT!
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>>79144104
I think its more of a dig how he became kind of swarthy in Superior Foes after being pale in New Thunderbolts. Shocker got unusually tan in Superior Foes, but you barely see him out of his suit anyways.
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>>79144143
THREE
BOOT
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>>79144143
Aw Zemo, you went full Doom.
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>>79144143

Thank you too.
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>>79144143

Dat 3rd panel homage

hype for EAT IT GRANDPA
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>>79144143
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.

>Tomorrow it's time for THREEBOOT!
Yay, time for 90s grunge movement in spaaaace!
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>>79144191
I think that's honestly just the art in Surperior foes, there's a certain kind of saturation to it that makes people look a bit odd. Everybody's quite pink looking.
Also, Superior Foes Shocker looked really Italian/possibly Russian mobster to me for some reason, maybe that's just the hair though.
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>>79144143
As best I can tell, Threeboot is 36 issues, and then the chronology also includes some Omega Men etc. So not a super-long diversion, we can also maybe switch it up on weekends.
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>>79144143
Will you run the second Citizen V mini after Linkin Park Legion?
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>>79144143
So, why is Dallas going along with letting Zemo rule the world?
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>>79144285
Yeah, I kind of though Shocker looked like an older Italian guy there too. Technically, coloring choices aside, it was Speed Demon who had one of the more jarring civilian redesigns, since he seemed to de-age 20 years in Superior Foes.

But regarding Abe's appearance, I'm now sort of curious if there's any pictures of him outside of the Beetle armor pre-Thunderbolts. Though like Shocker, I assume it would just be of a generic looking guy.
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>>79144341
>Linkin Park Legion
We're gonna have to decide whether or not Threeboot is more Nirvana or Linkin Park. hell, it might even have a little bit of Trapt.
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>>79144341
Yeah, I need to get back to that and fill things in

we'll read it and Avengers/Thunderbolts --> New Thunderbolts

>>79144343
We'll all see!
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>>79144341
>Linkin Park Legion

not bad
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thunderbump
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justice like asses bump
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Thanks OP
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>>79137356
I don't get how you couldn't see that would have a backlash. There are ways to have different opinions without attacking other people's tastes.
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>>79142508
Millar's sci-fi-ish stuff recently hasn't been terrible.
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>>79151000
I actually wasn't taking it that seriously.
It wasn't attacking, it was just my cohost and I just goofing around because it's a nolist site.
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>tfw the Thunderbolts has been MIA for a long time now
>And then there is that awful awful thing that they did to Fixer
I can't even address how awful it was what they did to Fixer
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MACH XII in a future panel on Deadpool today.
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>>79150190
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