Johnathon Schaech has joined the cast of The CW's LEGENDS OF TOMORROW as Jonah Hex, "a true legend of the Old West, a morally ambiguous gunslinger with a penchant for danger. Surprisingly, he knows a thing or two about time travel and the future, but is at home in the Wild West. Having battled outlaws and gangs for a while now, he advises Rip Hunter’s team of time travelers to be extra careful when they arrive in the small town of Salvation".
Hex will appear as a guest star on episode 11, with an option to recur to further episodes and a tentpole season 2.
>morally ambiguous gunslinger
This is why I fail to see the appeal of Jonah Hex. That's like, every single gunslinger character ever. Why would I read his book instead of just watching The Good The Bad and The Ugly?
Oh shut up. I still have no idea why you call me that.
You are a whiny bitch. You refuse to explain why you like this character when asked, and then start slinging insults at people when they call you out on it.
And my beef is with live action cape shows, not whatever bullshit narrative you've constructed in your rotting excuse for a brain.
>ignoring something you dislike
You first, cuntwad.
Also, I simply don't understand how anyone can enjoy this cheap junk. Superheroes were never really meant to be seen in three dimensions.
Fine, you want an explanation? The reason you can't just slap in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, is because, where the hell else can you get a Cowboy,who, no matter wht situation he is in, be is the west, modern day, outer space, or the post apocalyptic wasteland,Hex is always there, trying g to survive, and do just a little right. He's tough as nails, competent, and has consistently been written good for ages now
>HE A COWBOY BUT WIT WAKY SHIT
You do realize that's an entire sub-genre, right? Seven Soldiers of Victory, East of West, that one arc of Hack/Slash, Trigun, Wild Arms, Marvel Zombies 5....
Jonah Hex is nothing special.
So, just because there'sa subgenre, means Jonah Hex is not worth it? That, I should just read one cape comic, because there is plenty like it? No, I read jonah hex, because, its fun, well written, and, well, I just like reading Hex. If you are this Steven universe loving guy, tell me, why do you like Steven Universe? Surely there are other shows like it.
>actually using the word "fun"
Okay, so you just don't have any standards and need to make up reason why you "like" something. You're an idiot.
No, I'm saying there's no reason whatsoever to read Jonah Hex because he's cookie cutter trash.
When in the fuck did reading something for fun make it have no standards? Jesus christ, you are one effective troll. Still haven't said why you like Steven universe, have ya? What makes it so different?
>When in the fuck did reading something for fun make it have no standards?
You should be reading something that has actual value. If you read something for fun that matters worth a shit, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>Still haven't said why you like Steven universe, have ya?
You still haven't explained why you assume that I watch Steven Universe. Seriously, where are you getting that from?
He, like a lot of C-listers, makes appearances in various books out of a desperate attempt to draw attention to them from time to time.
>I mean, have you read any of his main books?
Nope. Why would I read a book for a character who failed to impress? That's silly.
>Alright, how are c-listens filler?
They don't contribute anything besides being extra bodies for group shots. None of their stories are interesting and they have little reason to exist besides filling space and making it seem like people actually live in the setting.
>Would you call booster gold c-list, even when he had some aweso e stories written about him, that impacted the dcu?
Booster Gold is a B-lister, second tier. Though I dislike him because he's an annoying brodouche.
>implying Booster Gold has awesome stories
> not enjoying C-list characters for the freedom that comes with it
> not enjoying Booster Gold's antics with Ted and his development into the greatest hero you've never heard of
Booster is also debatable whether he's B or C list. A list is a household name. B list is somewhat more prominence in pop culture. Being a recurring character in Brave and the Bold isn't much of a push into mainstream
Also, there reason to exist is to tell stories, same as Superman or Batman. Just cause less people are reading them doesn't mean they can't be good. What does it matter if it doesn't effect the overall universe? If the story is good then who cares how "important" it is?
Telling stories with nobody characters is poor business sense. If you have a character who is well known, you can make more sales. C-listers are just not conducive to making money.
Don't care bout money, care about stories
Its be true, but, with advances in prosthetic make up, and some of the cgi the cw can afford, can help bring tuftan and others to life
Are you holding a share of DC stock? Who gives a shit if DC is willing to make good stories if it costs them a few? Do you want MORE Batman? If a C-list story does too poorly it'll get canceled, but if it does really well you have potential for creating a more popular hero
>Don't care bout money, care about stories
If you care about good stories why are you reading comic books?
I want stories that feature characters who matter.
>potential for creating a more popular hero
This conversation makes me feel like I'm on acid.
Why do you read comics if you dont think stories are good? What do you mean matter? You would rather have a shitty story as long as it "mattered?" That mentality leads to events like Civil War. And yes, writing a good story can lead some C-lister to become more popular, like how good stories lead to adaptations and more mainstream popularity.
Comic books do not produce good stories. The industry doesn't allow for it.
>Why do you read comics if you dont think stories are good?
Nothing better to do. It's not fun having a hobby you hate.
>What do you mean matter? You would rather have a shitty story as long as it "mattered?"
I mean it matters as in it features characters who are important in the overall setting. Not some nobodies who exist to fill group shots.
Why even care if the story matters to the setting if you hate it? I mean if you read the stories they wint be nobodies. And just cause theyre c-list doesnt mean that they cant contribute to the setting at all
>That's like, every single gunslinger character ever
Not in comics, there's a long history of "white hat" western heroes. Hex broke out of that mold.
>Why would I read his book instead of just watching The Good The Bad and The Ugly?
Because it's a consistently well made comic.
>Why even care if the story matters to the setting if you hate it?
Because if I have to read this trash, it may as well be important trash.
>And just cause theyre c-list doesnt mean that they cant contribute to the setting at all
They already contribute. Someone has to be in the background of group shots. It's where they belong.
Alex, what if I can tell you we can remove all these annoying c-listers from all comics and comic-related media.
You have great power. Are you willing to join my team?
Yes I have to read it. I don't have anything better to do with my free time than read comic books and post on 4chan.
No it doesn't. You wanna continue this pissing match, fine. I can keep this shit up all fucking night, cuntbag. I have a lot of pent up anger and my only hobby is one I utterly despise. You wanna go? Let's fucking go.
Long as we're talking about Hex, what I find very interesting about him is that yes, he can work perfectly as a rugged mysterious badass bounty hunter who rides into town and shoots the shit out of whoever needs to be shot. But at the same time, he has an intensely layered history as a character that stretches all the way to his birth and ends with his death. He's one of the few characters in mainstream comics to have an actual, recorded dates of birth and death, and between them, a ton of equally recorded significant dates and events. And all of that backstory, interesting to plunder as it may be, isn't really necessary reading to enjoy him as a character. It helps understand him, it gives him depth, but it's not an obstacle to his stories. And more importantly, it makes him feel extremely alive. While outwardly he sounds like a mythical Man With No Name or Django, what we have here is an intensely human character who lived and died just like any other man.
Apart from his stories and the quality of the writers and artists involved with him, what makes Jonah Hex interesting to me is that we're allowed to see him as both the legend and the man, neither clashing nor obstructing each other, both parts of a tremendously compelling character.
His helmet actually appears in a promo pic.
>The industry doesn't allow for it
But they DO happen, usually on B or C list books where editorial is less likely to interfere and let the creators do what they want. Books like Jonah Hex.
Lol you REALLY hate c-listers that much. Thats kinda pathetic. Almost as pathetic as wasting your time reading something you hate rather than going out to do something you love. Are you too scared to get out tour comfort zone?
Would definitely be nice to see the Rock of Easy Co get some recognition.
Also, remember when Ah-Nuld was gonna play him?
Yeah? Like what? I've tried to find better ways to occupy my time, but I'm not a fucking millionaire. Comics are effectively free, so they'll have to do.
>But they DO happen
No they don't. Every time I grab a bucket and read a lesser known book, it sucks just as much as everything else.
>I don't have anything better to do with my free time than read comic books and post on 4chan
Why not try reading a comic that's self contained and well made so you don't have to read shitty crossovers to keep up on what's going on?
It'd still be a comic book though.
Or maybe you could mind your own fucking business and get back on topic.
>Jonah is good because backstory
Really? This old bullshit? A character's backstory can't hold them up forever. They actually have to have personality and interesting interaction with their surrounds, and Hex has neither.
>They actually have to have personality and interesting interaction with their surrounds, and Hex has neither.
Says the guy who refuses to read the actual book because he saw him once in a crossover and didn't like it. Or any comic ever apparently.
That's all I needed to see. If he can't be bothered to be interesting outside his own book, then the actual book must be a veritable sleep aid.
>But anyway i still dont get why you care so much about a setting you hate
Again, if I have to read about this trash, it had better be important trash.
He does have both, though. We've seen Jonah interact with all facets of the american West, from remnants of the Civil War, to slaves, native americans, lawmen, farmers, cowboys, inmigrants, inventors, men, women and children. We know how he feels about all of those, and not by his words (most Hex runs don't have him narrate his own stories, so we don't get to see his inner monologue or anything) but entirely by his actions. Same with his personality, and the best part is that we get to see how his backstory shaped that personality. How he's been soured again and again by trying to find a place of belonging and eventually settled for just drifting away. And it's not that the backstory makes him good; it's that it makes him human. I'd go as far as to say that Hex doesn't have a backstory so much as he has a history, with documented dates and several key events that allow us to trace his road from cradle to grave, which is something not many characters in mainstream comics have. It's a very humanizing part of his character, and the best part is that not only does this lead to intensely personal stories about who he his, where he comes from and where he'll end up, but it also lets us have smaller, self-contained stories about other people that Hex, much like The Man With No Name in For a Few Dollars More, just happens to wander into and lend a hand. It all adds up to a very unique and compelling character, at least for me.
The best modern Hex run is Jonah Hex Volume 2, by Jimmy Palmiotti and Justin Gray. It's mostly one-off stories with two or three bigger arcs pepper throughout, all drawn by rotating artists with some seriously heavy hitters in there. Issues 13 to 15 have a retelling of his origin, too.
If you can stomach more old school stuff, pick up the two DC Showcase Jonah Hex volumes. They start out written by Joe Orlando, but a few issues later Michael Fleisher replaces him and starts giving Hex a fuckton more history and really fleshing him out as a character.
And if you'd like some more Weird Western flair and some seriously amazing art, check out Tim Truman's Jonah Hex: Shadows West.
The rec list is literally everything.
All Star Western/Jonah Hex volume 1
Shadows West collects the Vertigo Hex stories
Jonah Hex volume 2 - probably the best starting point especially if you're a modern reader with an aversion to Bronze age writing
Mileage may vary on New 52 All Star Western
>They start out written by Joe Orlando
John Albano isn't it?
Judge. I don;t care. I so don't even begin to give a flying rat's fat ass. Whatever wall of text you feel like throwing at me is utterly pointless. You could go on and on about how much you fucking love Jonah Hex, and I still wouldn't give a shit. Like all those assholes who make rec threads just for the sake of wasting everyone's time, I'm not gonna read the book. I don't give a shit about Jonah Hex or any other useless nobody characters you want to stick up for. Fuck off.
If the protagonist is a character that is considered a household name, that counts as important.
Right, John Albano. Sorry about that.
Not that I know of, no. He did meet Hans von Hammer once, as part of the Five Warriors From Forever. There's another character with a strong, humanizing sense of history.
Duuuuuuuude! That's fucking awesome! Godspeed on that.
Just remember to take any chance you get to rant morosely about the KILLER SKIES.
Mostly just read his comics. The DC Showcase Enemy Ace volume in particular will give you the best idea of his character, mannerisms, speech patterns and general demeanour. Plus, it's a fucking awesome book. All dat Joe Kubert art, man...
Now why do you think I just posted three full-body pics in a row, pal?
Overall, anything drawn by Joe Kubert should be good. If not, check out Russ Heath's rendition of him in Enemy Ace: War in Heaven, though he's wearing a different uniform there.
He heard about a Hex movie being in production and got a make-up artist friend of him to do a Mark of the Devil on his face so he could send it to the producers. It's what the left pic in the post you linked is. Then he read the script and ducked out, because he may be a fanboy but he's a smart one. He did get his wish of playing Hex a few years later, tho', in the Showcase Presents animated short.
Oh yeah, it's one of my all-time favorite pieces by Kubert.
....I don't know what I want. Okay? I just don't. I want to talk about stuff, but I can't just make a thread because I don't know what I want to talk about.
I don't actually hate comics, that's just some bullshit I made up because the only way I can ever get a "conversation" going is to act like an needlessly aggressive shithead. Every time I do make a thread it gets almost no replies and i never get to talk about anything. So really, it's either this shit or I don't get to talk about anything at all.
Honestly, I really don't give a shit that people like these live action shows. Whatever, do you. But acting all offended about them is the only way to talk to anyone. I guess that's pretty pathetic, but I've frequently tried to be the change I want to see, and it doesn't work. If you can't beat em, join em, right?
Whatever, the mods are probably about to ban me for spam again, and I really just don't care anymore. I just wanted to talk, but everyone's more interested in being a dick and spamming memes. That's just 4chan, I guess.
Oh, and seriously, my name isn't Alex. I have no idea where you're all getting that from.
What? No. I neve go to the secret santa threads. I always assume people are trying to send each other viruses or something.
I just wanted to talk about stuff. But that's difficult considering where we are. frankly, I'm tired of this shit. The fact I'm good at annoying people disgusts me.
Guys, come on, let's just listen to him. Everyone deserves a chance
Nah man, secret santa threads are great. I one time got a manbat figure my first time in one
Like I said, I don't know. I guess I kinda like Hawkgirl. I got to know her through Johns' JSA run mostly. It's kinda neat that she's in this show. There's no way they can make the wings work though. Just, no.
... Oh right, I don't hate C-listers either. That was bullshit too.
>new live action Hex
Literally never thought I would see this again, I don't care what the context is
Look man, I get where you're coming from. I'd love to be able to talk about The 'Nam or Ms. Tree or modern Judge Dredd too, and it's annoying when people would rather focus on other stuff, and even if you storytime it's still hard to get the audience you need (especially since they fucked up storytimes with the whole autosage thing...). But lashing out and trolling people isn't the answer. You're not getting them to talk about the things they like, you're not generating conversation, you're getting them riled up against you. You're lashing out and getting lashed back. And that's actually worse than not talking about it because all you do is sour yourself up, wrapping yourself into a spiral of hate and bile for others, for you, for the things you like, for everything. Until eventually all is shit, you included.
Now look, I can't give you a solution that'll work for you, but I can at least try to give you some suggestions. Step away for a while. Take a break. Get some perspective. Don't take things so deeply. Turn inwards. Talk less and think more about the things you enjoy. Analyse them. Look for other people out there who might enjoy them as much as you, and if you don't find them, try to cherish those things for the effect they have on yourself. I know it's hard, but it's better than going around like this.
Kendra is a pretty cool Hawkgirl, yeah. And I definitely agree about the wings. They just look so... cheap. I dunno, I think that feathered wings on human beings is one of those things that never fully works in live action unless you're doing camp.
Long as we're talking about headgear in Rip Hunter's room... Dem stripes!
It hit autosage pretty fast after the episode was over because of the previews for Suicide Squad and Justice League, and we've been too busy talking about those to discuss the show itself