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New trailer hyping up the show's return.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7V8AvE--Sc

Looking pretty based. The Earth-2 arc sounds fun.
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damn im excited for the reverse flash stuff. killer frost and deathstorm look great too.

>this war between us ends now.
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Caitlin literally has nothing to do.
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So its obvious Barry and Thawne are going back to his mom's death scene and fighting there, right?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6yO0OxYanM

>yfw Barry sings this to Season 1 Wells
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showing that one scene of west in the car- you think he gonna crash and somehow get speedforce?

The whole eobard arc is hype, I think it's the first eobard aka first time eobard comes from the future because if you pause the scene where flash throws him against the fence it is DINSTINCTLY BARRY IN THE YELLOW SUIT.

I'm so excited for rf coming back.
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>Reverse-Flash comes back because this is a Reverse-Flash from before he was erased
FUCK YOU! THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS!
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>>79102579
my guess is that eddie from e2 comes to e1 rectifying the timeline.

That or he comes out of speedforce through some bullshit to help barry so he can continue BTFOing barry and stop zoom.

OR HE COMES FROM A DIFFERENT TIMELINE WHERE ZOOM TOOK SPEED OF EVERYONE AND EVENTUALLY COMES FOR HIM AND HE IS SCARED AF OF ZOOM AND WANTS TO DEFEAT HIM NOW

or i dont know
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>>79102670
No, they said this Eobard is from a point in time from before he absorbed Wells and way before he got erased.

Problem is, this is absolutely impossible seeing as how he no longer fucking exists in the timestream!
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King Shark is getting an episode too.
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>>79102579
Actually with multiverse physics nothing is impossible since Eddie could exist in the other time line he would exist but since he interacted with atoms in this version of the universe (wells) we can assume that his existence was also tied to this version of Eddie.
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>>79100748

surely that's why they brought back Ronnie
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>>79102434
WHAT? Screenshot right fucking now
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>>79102733
For one episode.
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>>79102750
:48 seconds play at lowest speed. It's less noticeable in this trailer but the first trailer to have this scene had a few more frames in it and it was very apparent.
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>Daddy West punching Barry in the face

Holy Fuck!. What's going on
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>>79102579
Yes it is. That's how it's been in the comics when died too. Everything Eobard did still counts because Flash and Ronnie stopped the singularity which was only created in response to paradox Eddie's death at that moment caused.
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>>79102434
>I think it's the first eobard aka first time eobard comes from the future

It's Eobard from another timeline. In season 1, Barry traveled back in time and created an alternate timeline. Cisco can still vibe the other timeline in a later episode. It will be revealed that aside from other Earths, like Earth-2, there are also seperate timelines upon each Earth. Season 2 Eobard is from the alternate timeline where he killed Cisco before Barry turned back time

How did he get to the current timeline? Who fucking knows, but Eobard does seem to know a lot about shit like that so it doesn't surprise me.
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>>79102850
It's Harry, not Barry.
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>>79102857
fuck isn't there a timeline where there isn't a flash and cisco is dead? Because barry left that timeline to go back in time?

Is everytime barry goes back in time he creates another universe or does the timeline he "was" in get erased/rectified.
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>>79102857
>>79102857
>Season 2 Eobard is from the alternate timeline where he killed Cisco before Barry turned back time
No, it's not. They've said it's Eobard from way before season one started.
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>>79102863
Yeah..Yeah, I see it now
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Here's what Kreisberg said about the Reverse Flash:
>Do you know who this Reverse-Flash is that’s popping up on The Flash this season? — Claire

>Despite theories that he hails from Earth-Two, this actually is the Reverse-Flash we’ve come to know and hate — but with a twist. “Time on our show does not unfold linearly,” EP Andrew Kreisberg says. “Sometimes you’ve seen events from one direction and then you start to see them from the other. This Reverse-Flash is not exactly the Reverse-Flash that we saw disintegrate at the end of the year. It’s a Reverse-Flash from an earlier timeline. It’s not the Earth-Two Reverse-Flash, it’s the Reverse-Flash. That is, hands down, one of our best episodes.”
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/01/15/spoiler-room-mr-robot-greys-anatomy-flash-spoilers
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>>79102579

It's gonna be like when the Reverse Flash appeared in "The Return of Barry Allen." He came from an earlier point in his own timeline, fought Wally, and returned to his time with no memory of the encounter.

Eobard therefore must have already had this adventure before going back to kill Barry's mom, and had forgotten about it. Or something.
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>>79102905
This is Doctor Who levels of bullshit. Which is one step away from being Jojo levels of bullshit, which is the highest level of bullshit anything can reach.
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1. Iris
2. Felicity
3. Laurel
4. Thea
5. Linda
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>>79102888
>from way before season one started

That doesn't make much sense. If he left the past to jump to the present, he would undo everything that happened in between. Even if it were an Eobard from the past, he would still have to jump into an entirely different timeline where Eddie shot himself and finished Eobard off in the season finale
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>>79102957
Who the fuck is Linda and why is Patty not on that list, son?
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>>79102957

Cisco best waifu
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>>79102978
Because it's a top 5 worst bitches list
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>>79102579
>FUCK YOU! THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS!

You are aware that time travel is a fictional concept, right? There are no concrete "rules" on how it works.
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>>79102957
Thea__ is dead.
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>>79102978
Considering he's got felishitty as number 2, it's a list not worth mentioning.
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>>79102978
>!

She would be higher if we had seen more
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>>79103028
Between Thea, Lance, and Dig, I'd say Thea is the least likely one to be in the grave.
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>>79103028
Detective lance actually.
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E1-Caitlin is going to become Killer Frost trying to prevent becoming Killer Frost after seeing E-2 KF

Calling it now
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>>79103052
Oh, right. That chick who only showed up twice and then disappeared forever.
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>>79103062

It's Oliver's son. Damien Dahrk is going to shoot him in the fucking face
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>>79103022
So this is doctor who levels of bullshit?
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>>79103000
>>79103000
>>79103000

>JAL3000
>JLA3000


Cisco is a guy, you cis scum
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>>79099477
>Good luck fixing the universe!

Oh baby now we're into proper Flash story territory now. The multiverse is fucked and there's only one way to put it back.

With SPEED FORCE BULLSHIT.
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>we Sliders now

might b fun
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>>79103082
>twice

Wat. You need a bigger attention span, brah.
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>>79102434
>DINSTINCTLY BARRY IN THE YELLOW SUIT.
honestly i hope you're wrong because it would be really lame to have letscher come back and then eobard is just played by a double instead of him.
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>>79103085
Bitch, do you even Flash?
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My god, just when I thought Panabaker's acting couldn't get any worse.

Seriously, I'm hyped as fuck for Deathstorm, but Killer Frost looks like shit.
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>>79103241
>hyped for Deathstorm
It's just Ronnie in a black jacket.
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>Jay back in costume

Oh please oh please oh please oh for the love of Dog God give him something important to do on the team other than make out with Caitlin.
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>>79103217
Yeah but the whole bring back the villain we just got rid of at the end of last season is dalek doctor who bullshit
they killed his direct heir he shouldn't be there.
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>>79103264

Yeah but Deathstorm's got a pretty fucking cool powerset, and I want to see what they do with it on the show.

If he just winds up being "evil Firestorm with a black costume" I'm going to be fucking made.

Also anyone else find it weird that they're kind of half-mashing up Earth 2 and Earth 3?
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>>79099477
Hope the show finally gets back on track after all that LOT bullshit.
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>>79103269

That's not how Flash works.

The Speedforce did it anon as it does all things.
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>>79103288
.....It's literally just going to be him with an attitude, black jacket, with fire powers.
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>>79103288
>If he just winds up being "evil Firestorm with a black costume" I'm going to be fucking made.
Prepare to be made.
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>>79103330
>>79103351

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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So Justice Society of America? I hope we get some kind of a team showing up.
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>>79103942
I heard they can't as long as superman abd batman are in the movies. Also Martian is in super girl, not flash
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>>79104020

None of those characters are JSA staples...
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>>79104020
He said Justice Society, not League. And they can use the JSA, they just aren't going to yet.
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>>79104020
Different team.
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>>79104020
Is this bait
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>>79104020
anon...
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>>79104109

Well let's see. We've already got

>Wildcat in Arrow
>Mr. Terrific in Arrow (kind of)
>Johnny and Jessie quick set up, but without powers yet
>Jay Garrick
>both Hawks

And the Helm of Nabu got retconned into the CWverse by way of Constantine, so we may get Doctor Fate at some point in the future. That just leaves Alan Scott for the core old guard.
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>>79102905
Wouldn't that mean that RF already knew what was going to happend?
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>>79104179
Do we know is Alan Scott is available to use? Or is every Green Lantern off limits due to the films?
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>>79104397
Right now, we don't know. But I think we were sure that if Alan does show up, they'll call him Sentinel.
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>>79104397

Alan Scott's a tricky one since he's a different type of Green Lantern.

And it was rumored they wanted to cut back on embargoing characters a bit so who knows?
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>>79104495

Seems the simplest way to handle it, yeah.
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>>79104397
>is every Green Lantern off limits due to the films

Yes
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>>79104513
>And it was rumored they wanted to cut back on embargoing characters

I'll believe it when I see it
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>>79104495
Can they say Green Sentinel?
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>>79104523

Easy fix though, just don't call him Green Lantern like >>79104495 suggests.
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>>79104397
They sure as hell tease us with Green Lantern stuff.
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>>79104575

When he stopped being Green Lantern in the 90's, he just went by Sentinel. There's no sense in adding on the "green" to it when we've got a different name already.
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>>79103942
>all the men wearing hermes helmets
shit is jay's helmet a war helmet then? that's awesome
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>>79104513
>And it was rumored they wanted to cut back on embargoing characters
This was from an old interview and they still got rid of katana, cap boomerang, and deadshot.
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>>79104608
It is, he said it was from the 'War of the Americas'.
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>>79104589
Those cheeky bastards.
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>>79102938
It's just going to show how Barry saved his younger self.
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>>79104985
No, it'll reveal what event led Thawne to hate Barry so fiercely.
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>>79105134
I agree with this. We are seeing a show version of "return of barry allen". Just without the impersonating stuff.
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ONE MORE DAY
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Anyone reading any new 52 Flash?

He is pretty shit in his ongoing, JLA and JL. So upsetting.
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>>79105447
It feels like the moment the series got good, the comic went downhill, like they knew they would never compare to the tv show so they stopped giving a fuck.
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>>79105478
Which is lunacy to me. Surely the show is pointing some casuals to the comics (it was the jump on point for me for example), the shit content would drive many away.
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>>79105447
I don't read it because I like it, just so i'm not out of the loop
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>>79101842
fuck how did they get away with doing this on television? That's beyond cheesy. At least make it SEEM like he's actually singing in these scenes.
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>>79105447
i read the story times of pain that get put on /co/.

their are rumors that a bunch of big name titles will be getting new creative teams entirely to re-energize interest and i hope flash is one of them. it's the most popular DC tv show right now and the highest rated on the CW. why they don't have a more big name creative team on it is baffling.
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Right in the end you can see Thawne jumping through the breach at S.T.A.R. Labs that leads to Earth-2.
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>>79105556
You're what's wrong with comic fans. Forcing yourself to read garbage only enables Marvel and DC to continue to put out garbage. I like Wonder Woman, but I haven't read a single issue of the Finch's trash and never will.
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>>79105632
>implying I don't pirate my shit
>implying I don't read storytimes
Why don't you fuck right off with your assumptions you fucking faggot
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>>79105625
will he team up with Zoom and create the Legion of Zoom, or end up helping Barry stop him because no one is allowed to take down the Flash but him?

also another cool thing to note: he doesn't appear to be vibrating or having his red eye glow in any of these scenes except the one before he jumps into the breach. since it's an earlier version he may not have enough speed on him yet, but ends up taking a shot of velocity 6 that infuses into his body and supercharges his speed.
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>>79105569
GLEE is a great bad show, and the uneven lip synching is part of it.
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Is it Eobard getting pushed up against the fence?


That's hot. I want porn.
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>>79105684
Where's the assumption? You do exactly what I said and you aren't the only one who does it.
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>>79105799
If me and people like me are not paying for shit, how does that encourage companies to produce more anon?
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>>79105556
You have to vote with your dollar anon. If you pay for trash, they will continue to churn out trash.
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>>79105855
who's paying?
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The First Reverse Reverse did all this because shit and giggles
Does this "second" Reverse Flash have an agenda? Can he actually be threat?
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>>79105685
He could be really friendly, but Barry betrays him leading to the hate.

I could totally see that happening.
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>>79105841
The implication is that there are people like you who do buy crap no matter how bad it is just because.
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>>79105876
Do you pay for good books?
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>>79105878
>Does this "second" Reverse Flash have an agenda? Can he actually be threat?
if you mean Eobard, it's a version of him from before he went to kill Barry as a child. meaning he has nothing but hatred for Barry, whereas in season 1 he actually did start to like him halfway into the season.

if you mean Zoom, his agenda is to get fast.
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>>79105895
But i'm not. There was no kind of implication in your original post. You said I was what was wrong with fans and implied I was buying them, because only by buying their shit would they be encouraged to make more shit.
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>>79105921
>meaning he has nothing but hatred for Barry
If it's early enough it could be the version of Eobard that obsesses over and loves Barry.
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>>79105855
>vote with your dollar
>working
this whole 'the individual american matters' meme needs to stop. it's killing you. If you want change, you need to large numbers of people you've convinced to do the same thing.

No one cares what a single person does with their dollar (unless they're one of the 62 people possessing half the world's wealth), people care what hundreds of thousands of people do with their dollar.
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>>79105959
>Eobard follows Barry home
>zooms into his room, late at night
>puts a hand on his shoulder
>leans down in his yellow suit and whispers lovingly
>"Barry, I've always admired you. I want to be you. C-can I touch you?"
>Barry freaks out
>REJECTION
>the hatred begins
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>>79106020
No drop of water thinks it's responsible for the flood.
>>79106046
If it's happy Eobard he wouldn't have the yellow suit just yet.
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>>79106148
Early hate-o-bard was kinda bipolar in his hate/love stuff. I could see him going back to an 'earlier' Barry to make it work.

And that sounds a lot gayer than I meant it to be.
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>>79106209
Embrace the gay.
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>>79106209
Wasn't it finding himself in the museum that sent him crazy. It was like

>Travels back in time
>Goes to the Flash museum
>Discovers he is destined to becomes reverse Flash
>Decides that if he becomes Barry Allen he dodges his fate
>Defeated by Wally and loses memory
>Retains Barry obsession and Flash hate.
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>>79101064
Aw man, I really hope that doesn't happen, I always thought that fight took place further in the future where they've grown to hate each other even more and have done worse shit to each other throughout the years
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>>79106426
I think it would be best if Eobard comes back and is really obsessed with Barry. Barry obviously reacts very poorly and drives him away. Eobard, feeling betrayed decides he wants to be nothing like Barry, just the reverse!
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>>79102750
Nah it's Letscher, he just lost a few pounds to fit better in Cavanagh's RF suit and the make up people made him look a bit younger.
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>>79103269
Again, Time Travel is fictional, like >>79103022
said. Don't try to reason with it too much.

>>79103533
I honestly don't know what you were expecting man. Firestorm hasn't even shown a fraction of his full powers - so why would Deathstorm?

It's the same premise with Barry. If you have all of your comic-based abilities, villains are a cakewalk.

i.e. Firestorm can straight up atomize/disintegrate anything with a thought, turn intangible, control all forms of energy as well as matter, etc.

Barry would speed-steal, insta-kill in a fraction of a second, electrify the opponent, etc.
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>>79105959
It would have to be to make it a fair fight. OG Eobard is an experienced combat veteran who can run train against Barry. Essentially beating the ever loving shit out of him.

In OP's vid, Barry has Eobard against a fence at one point, and other cuts make it look like a fair fight. This Eobard is probably at the very beginning of his career as RF, so he still fucking despises Barry, but hasn't actually learned how to fight yet.

They could easily make this version of RF a recurring side villain if they needed to, since audiences will experience Evil Speedster burnout after Zoom.
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>>79106761
>Barry would speed-steal
Didn't Wally get that after a unique fight, it's not speed force related?
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>>79106854
>They could easily make this version of RF a recurring side villain if they needed to
I really don't want Flash to have is own Merlyn.
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>>79106924
I'm pretty sure it is. Wally's just the first to really get creative with his powers.

Bare in mind that he also managed to create clothing out of GOES FAST which is bullshit by comic standards. Pic Related

But it's Speed Force - what the fuck can you do?
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>>79107012
Merlyn was fine until he was hero-fied.

The same was done with Wells, but his was much more organic and entertaining.
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>>79107056
Merlyn was fine in season one. He never should have been brought back at all. Now he's just another one of John Barrowman's smarmy jackbag fuckface characters who's stuck around way too long and offers nothing to the show that someone better couldn't offer.
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>>79107012
It was only a hypothetical. You'll be lucky if RF is ever used again after this season.

If a 3rd Season is a go, then they'll probably jump to something like Grodd or the Rogues.

I'd like more Weather Wizard tbqh. He's powerful enough to give Flash a run for his money, and Mardon's demonstrated creativity with his powers - using Thermal updrafts and currents to fly. He's easily the most powerful of the evil Metahumans (not counting RF and Zoom)

A season centered around him, Cold and the rest of the Rogues would be nice - but it would have to be something other than cheap bank robberies. The Rogues' typical MO isn't enthralling enough for an entire season.
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>>79107114
He was good in season 2 as a conspirator who was defeated and plotted from the shadows to strike against his greatest enemy and get revenge.

Then came season 3 and he became that not even lovable asshole you can't figure out why people put up with, even if he is entertainingly smarmy and catty.
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>>79107169
>It was only a hypothetical. You'll be lucky if RF is ever used again after this season.

Don't be foolish, bro.
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>>79107169
>It was only a hypothetical. You'll be lucky if RF is ever used again after this season.

You're going full Cal, bro.

Never go full Cal.
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>>79107169
I don't know how they'd do a whole season based around the Rogues. Maybe if it was a half-season like Breaking Bad, but a full 20someodd episode season with a MOTW type format? No way.
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>>79106545
Perfection.
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>>79107114
He's not that relevant now - you're right about that.

He's still supposed to be a dark mirror and foil to Oliver though. The trauma of familial death being funneled by a wealthy man into a means for revenge. As opposed to Oliver who funneled it into an attempt at Justice.

As for snark, that's Barrowman's own personal flair at work. He did it with Jack Harkness as well (in both Doctor Who and Torchwood) A "lovable" badass who's turned into a massive prick after years of immortality (much like the Doctor himself).

That itself is fine because of the very first point, he's not really relevant anymore. But you can't exactly just kill Merlyn off because he's been built up as a badass (he was the main villain of the first season after all)
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>>79107294
>he's been built up as a badass
>leads an army of the world's greatest assassins
>is friends with the immortal Vandall Savage
>is too afraid to go to war with spooky scary Damien Darhk
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>>79107335
Plot, man. There's nothing you can do to abate the effects of bad writing.

If we want to be technical, then Oliver could just call up Barry, Firestorm, the entirety of STAR Labs's tech, and Constantine and his magic to wreck Darhk's shit.

Likewise, Barry could ask Stein, Ray, and a shit ton of other smart people for help against Zoom. Cisco's shot (created by Wells) was enough to temporarily damage him. Imagine what a room full of comic scientists can come up with.

But he doesn't for the exact same reason - artificial tension compounded on by bad writing (which gives no good justification for them NOT doing what I described above)

That's the trouble with shared universes that grow with size - it becomes more and more difficult to justify a lack of rational choices and decisions.
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>>79107169
Couldn't afford Grodd. Rogues will definately be a season. Captain Cold actor said that his characters development in LoT causes him to form the Rogues and you just need to look at the actors hired to tell they plan on using them a lot more.
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>>79107447
Do yoy ask your entire slew of acquaintances for help every time you run into a wall?
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>>79107514
The point is that Darhk is new territory - magic. Yes it's something Oliver has been exposed to, but it's not exactly something a trained bowman is usually prepared for.

Superheroes don't strike me as the type to let their pride get in the way of their fucking job - stopping the bad guys and protecting everyone. With heroes and villains, the stakes are always high, so there's no excuse for not doing everything in your power to take the villains down.
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>>79107447
Ollie not calling in Barry etc. to help kind of makes sense since I can see him being too proud to ask for help. He views Star City and all of it's threats as HIS problem. Yeah, he kinda forced Dig and Felicity to help him, but only out of absolute necessity. Thea and Laurel forced him to let them help.

As for Barry not asking Ray to help? It's quite possible Barry still thinks Ray is dead, and if Barry knows Ray is back, it's possible Ray has turned down helping him since Ray is still in that weird funk he was in when they rescued him. Stein is off in Pittsburgh again getting better acquainted with his other other half.

So there are legitimate reasons for those things not happening. Merlyn refusing to offer the League's help against HIVE, even if only to use Thea as an excuse AGAIN is just plain bad writing, period. There is NO excuse for it.
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>>79102707
maybe he doesn't exist in the E-1 timestream, but each Earth has its own timestream, so he still exists in the E-2 timestream.
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>>79107169
Go full on Rogue war when Snart tries to establish the organization.
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10. Potential Energy (January 19, 2016)
>Now that they’ve grown closer, Barry considers telling Patty that he is the Flash. Meanwhile, Joe and Iris try to get to know Wally, and the team hunts down the Turtle (Aaron Douglas), a meta-human who can slow time itself.

11. The Reverse-Flash Returns (January 26, 2016)
>When Cisco gets a vibe of Eobard Thawne (Matthew Letscher), Barry and the team don’t believe it. But, after an attack at Mercury Labs, Christina McGee confirms that the Reverse-Flash is back. Meanwhile, Iris and Francine share a nice moment that brings Iris closer to her brother, Wally.

12. Fast Lane (February 2, 2016).
>Barry (Grant Gustin) teams up with Wells to figure out a way to close the breaches, but they are distracted by Joey Mantelone (Marco Grazzini), a meta-human known as "Tar Pit", who can transform into liquid asphalt. Iris is concerned for Wally’s safety after she finds out about his drag racing hobby. When he refuses to stop she makes a bold move that puts her in danger.
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>>79107584
>Superheroes don't strike me as the type to let their pride get in the way of their fucking job
That is character specific.
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>>79107643
That's the thing. Snart doesn't exactly have anything he can do to stop Barry from taking his "enterprise" down at any moment.

Yeah, he's got the cliché of "I know who you really are", but that's still not convincing against a guy who can punch your lights out and search your entire HQ for data, delete it, and turn you in to the police before someone even blinks.

Snart doesn't even have his signature Cold Field to use against Flash. Heatwave is barely worth mentioning himself, and Mark doesn't seem to be willing to help him with the Rogues yet.
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>>79107719
That can all be developed.
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>>79107661
>a meta-human who can slow time itself.
Oh I cant' WAIT to see how Barry jobs to this Meta.

Plus, I don't see how this would truly affect Barry of all people anyway.
>"Haha Flash! I stop TIME!"
>"Wow, what do you think happens when I run really, REALLY fast? And that's your only power? Besides that you're just a normal dude?"
>"..........Fuck"
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>>79107661
>Wally is a street racer

Man, forget Kid Flash, I want to see him become fucking Ghost Rider now
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>>79107784
If he can stop time, Barry won't be able to run away.
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13. Title Unknown
>Barry confronts Adam Fells (Adam Stafford), a dangerous meta-human known as "Geomancer", with the unique ability to create earthquakes. Intent on destroying the Flash, Geomancer uses his powers to unleash a string of targeted earthquakes, optimistic that he’ll draw out the Flash for a one-on-one fight to see who’s the most powerful meta-human in Central City.

14. Title Unknown
>The battle between the Flash and Geomancer continues, with the fate of Central City hanging on the balance. Iris meets her new boss Scott Evans (Tone Bell), who believes that the Flash is a menace to Central City.

15. Title Unknown
>Barry joins forces with John Diggle (David Ramsey) and his wife, Lyla Michaels (Lily Marie Anderson), to help A.R.G.U.S. recapture King Shark, who has escaped from captivity and is hellbent on completing his mission of destroying the Flash on Zoom's behalf.

16. Title Unknown.
>Barry confronts Eliza Harmon, an exceptionally bright scientist, who, as a result of exposure to the unstable Velocity-6 speed serum, develops a malevolent split personality known as "Trajectory".
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>>79106854
Eobard as recurring villain, grinding his EXP against Barry to go OP on Barry's younger self.
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>>79099477
Patty is gonna die.
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>>79107876
>Wells didn't kill King Shark the first time around.

Well fuck.
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>>79107661
>concerned for Wally’s safety after she finds out about his drag racing hobby. When he refuses to stop she makes a bold move that puts her in danger.
Plz don't do new 52 Wally.
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>>79107603
It's simple: Oliver is too proud to ask others for help to deal with his problems, and Barry is too concerned with others' well-being to drag them into his own problems.

And they're both clearly shown to be willing to call for help if the situation REALLY demands it.
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>>79107863
If he can completely STOP it, sure. Anything else won't work against someone who literally moves so fast that time appears to stop.
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>>79103028
It's Lance, dummy
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>>79107784
His power is stealing momentum, which causes time to appear to have stopped. He slowns the Flash down to a crawl.
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>>79107876
>Iris meets her new boss Scott Evans (Tone Bell), who believes that the Flash is a menace to Central City.

"WEST, GET IN MY OFFICE! I NEED NEWSPAPER ARTICLES! NEWSPAPER ARTICLES ABOUT THE FLAAAAASH!"!
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>>79107902
Essentially.
Either way, RF still has a genius level intellect over Barry. Which is funny, considering how OG Timeline Barry apparently created a fully functional artificial construct (Gideon).

I still think that OG Timeline Barry will somehow return to help NuBarry defeat Zoom.
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>>79107661
>Patty is only mentioned in Episode 10
Fuck, she's getting Zoom'd at the end of the episode.
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>>79107876
>Diggle is over in Central City helping with meta stuff for ARGUS
Strange, you figure Ollie would need him more.
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>>79108106
A surefire way to know if someone dies in an episode is gauging how vague the subsequent episode's synopsis is.
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>>79107876
>Iris meets her new boss Scott Evans (Tone Bell), who believes that the Flash is a menace to Central City.
I WANT PICTURES
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>>79108065
Unlimited Flash Works
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So, uh, there's an episode of Supergirl tonight right? Why isn't there a thread for it right now?
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>>79106473
That would be perfect, and throughout the years they'll fight and it will get more and more heated with every confrontation until maybe zoom discovers his fate and decides that the only way to prevent it is by killing Barry when he's a kid, then he unknowingly sets himself up to die
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>>79108169
They won't kill her off. Not yet. She's getting kidnapped by Zoom and will probably be in the same holding cell/area as Wells' daughter. They'll save her death for the actual finale.
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>>79108211
Who the fuck is the Gilgamesh in this scenario?
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>>79108244
That will be the hard bit to work in. When Eobard discovers that he is destined to die at the hands of Barry, that will set him off in a big way.
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>>79108285
Isn't that exactly what happened with the Pre-Crisis version of Eobard?

After getting his powers, he learned that he dies getting his neck snapped by Flash and he finally snaps, loosing it.

It's like Poetry, it Rhymes?
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>>79104109
i want midnighter so bad
hed be perfect for the cwverse,heck put him on arrow even
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>>79108279
Savitar, maybe?
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>>79108381
I'd rather Roy talk about his friend in Bludhaven first
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>>79108348
Yeah. He obsesses over Barry and decides to have surgery to look like him and travel back in time to meet him. He overshoots and hits a point where Wally is the Flash.

He opts to visit the Flash museum and discovers that he is destined to become the reverse flash (the plaque says Reverse Flash: Eobard Thawne), this sends him pretty crazy. He then tries to impersonate Barry and become the Flash, but Wally works it out and tricks him into going back to the future and losing his memory. He basically comes out of it still obsessing over the Flash, but this time in a really negative way. He then goes on to be a silver age menace.
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fuck all of you for not believing me

It's fucking barry in reverse flash's suit.

It's eobard's first incarnation aka when he first time travels backwards and pretends to be the flash/wants to meet his idol. We will witness the birth of the reverse flash we know and love and it's gonna be barry's fault.

IT WAS YOU BARRY
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>>79108522
But why is he wearing yellow? First incarnation wears a Flash outfit and steals the yellow outfit from the museum.
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>>79108555
probably steals the only outfit available aka the one cisco kept gets preserved into the future.
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>>79107876
>Iris meets her new boss Scott Evans (Tone Bell)

Love interest. Bleh.
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>>79108522
I'm still seeing Letscher, but we'll see.
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>>79108522
>mfw It was literally Barry this time.

If this is true, then what happens to Plastic Surgery Eobard that makes him revert to his original face?

I don't remember how he lost his "Barry Face" in the Comics.
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>>79108594
Yeah. If it follows the comics he steals a yellow suit from our time. I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up NOT wearing it.

It's a cool paradox in the comics. His younger version steals the suit from the older version in an infinite loop.

There is a one off where he takes a flash suit from a time capsule (his first ever appearance), but that one is destroyed.
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>>79108671
>If this is true, then what happens to Plastic Surgery Eobard that makes him revert to his original face?
>I don't remember how he lost his "Barry Face" in the Comics.
He aged. That is why Letscher looks like "old Barry".
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>>79108285
I feel like killing Barry as a kid is a last resort though, and if he discovers that he dies at his hands then thats the only logical way out
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>>79108522
Wait, are we going to see Barry, Eobard and Jay tag team Zoom?

Because that'd be cool. Actually, fuck it. Why not just bring all hands on Deck for the Finale.

>Flash
>RF
>E2 Flash (Jay)
>Potentially E2 Wells and Jessie Muh Velocity 9 and Spped Equation)
>Firestorm
>Potentially Captain Cold and the Rogues
>Oliver and his team
>Potentially the LoT cast if they're still around.

The funny thing is, most of them would still just be canon fodder against Zoom anyway.
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>>79108753
Yeah, by the time he kills Barry's Mother in the comics he is a full blown nut case. Driven mad by time travel, recreating the accident to give himself powers, death, resurrection and finding out Barry died with honour.

I'd like to see RF recurring over the seasons, slowly developing into the villain we saw in ep 1.
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>>79102579
actually I think that's how it worked, as Barry advances in time (You know, the normal way) He starts fighting less experienced versions of Reverse Flash since that was kinda RF's MO, he goes further and further into the past to fight less experienced versions of Barry
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>>79108801
that would be great

bring in LoT cast and Oliver just to get btfo'd by zoom. Then a full on speed fight

RED YELLOW AND BLUE LIGHTNING

Imagine if zoom learns bout reverse flash and realizes with enough speed he can time travel.

fuck i just want speedsters racing through time trying to catch one another while one is mad with rage trying to destroy everything
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>>79108822
I'd like to see him meet Barry for the first time in his time line maybe at the end of an origin type episode that cuts back and forward from Eobard in the future and Barry in the present, kind of like the island flashbacks in Arrow
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>>79109040
This could easily be done. The main problem is the possibility that people will get bored with Evil Speedsters after RF and Zoom being the main antagonists.

They need to change up the formula.
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>>79108522
i took a higher res screenshot from this trailer and it looks more like letscher to me in terms of his body mass
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>this The Flash Talkback thread feel again.
Love you, /co/
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>>79109142
Well evil speedsters got lots of possiblities creativity wise for fights besides going fast

-vibration antics
-time travel antics
-whirlwind
-hostages
-race against time

They still got mirror master and lots of storys to draw from
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>>79109297
Love you, /co/mrade
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>>79108594
except in the trailer we see him running in front of barry's childhood street and taking off the mask, presumably just after he entered this time.
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>>79109296
Watch the older trailer not this one, frmo 3-4 weeks ago. It's like 20 seconds but it has like 10 more frames of him getting slammed against the fence and it's very apparent its barry in the suit.
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>>79109345
could easily be time travel antics (20 years ago, 21 years ago, earth 2, ETC)
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>>79109297
Then you better lube your ass up for Tomorrow.

I swear the Mid Season Premier alone will be a shitstorm.

Next Week's Episode has Reverse Flash straight up returning. That shit's gonna go to thread #5 easily.

Flash Talkback threads are the epitome of the /co/ experience.

Even though we all just about hate each other, there's something about watching it live with snacks and food with everyone's genuine reactions that's so comfy.
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>>79109299
Yeah, especially Savitar if they really want to get crazy.
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>>79107876


let me guess, geomancer wont have his costume right?
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>>79109427
>Sentai
>Daft Punk
>Spider-Man
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>>79109430
'Sup.
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>>79109427
I truly don't think they can do another speedster so soon.

They have a season to handle the rogues and one for Grodd.
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>>79109345
that's the scene from season 1 right after he loses his powers you dumbass
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>>79109398
>Even though we all just about hate each other, there's something about watching it live with snacks and food with everyone's genuine reactions that's so comfy.
this and story time of pains truly unite /co/ in a way you never see any other time.
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>>79109398
REMINDER THAT EOBARD WONT BE BACK NEXT EPISODE WE GOT LIKE 4 MORE :(((((((
oh well seeing patty get zoomed is good enpough

I missed the flash talkback threads
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>>79109427
>Pepsi-Man: The New Fizz
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>>79109532
that doesnt even resemble his comic costume, this is some spider-man 3 goblin bullshit
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>>79109563
you're the dumbass it's a different street and there are more trees lmfao
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>>79109532
brad maddox?
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>>79109532
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>>79109427
they could build up Savitar over a few seasons.
Make him somebody who mastered dimension sliding, searching for the local Speed Masters to learn from (and kill) them
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>>79109532
Scott?
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>>79109779
I like this, maybe a nod here and there at the end of a few episodes and having a subplot of him blasting the fuck out of the gang and never appearing again doing some cryptic shit like "not powerful enough yet"
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>>79109779
Problem is there is no Max Mercury in the show, he is pivitol in the Savitar story.
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>ctrl+f
>cosmic treadmill

Niggers did you all miss the part where zoom literally uses it to launch himself in to the speedforce?
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>>79109828
well, then introduce him.

He could easily take Jay's place as Barry's teacher... or even better, as WALLY's teacher on the long-running sub-plot of Wally as speedster.

Have him with the same origins as in the comics, but when he got Savitar the last time he stranded on E-1, losing track of the path back to his own Earth and deciding to stay there.
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There's a rumor season 2 will end with the Speed Force bestowing hundreds of people across the world with powers, and season 3's primary villain is Cicada killing them off and forming his Speed Cult with Savitar as his enforcer.
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>>79109398
Fucking this. I feel sad for casuals that they will never know the joy of Flash talkbacks
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>>79109918
I think that's just him using a ramp to jump into E-2.
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>>79108522
What if we get Barry, Eobard-Barry AND Zoom turns out to be E2 Barry

How can we can get more Barrys in one scene
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>>79110034
Future Barry could come in for the fight.
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>>79109563
rewatch the trailer and look for the moment he takes off his cowl, it's very obviously not the scene from season 1
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>>79110034
Sneak peak of Earth-3 Barry, who is the one that's gonna be in the movie
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>>79109398
>Flash Talkback threads are the epitome of the /co/ experience.
>Even though we all just about hate each other, there's something about watching it live with snacks and food with everyone's genuine reactions that's so comfy.
Fucking this
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>>79110772
Movies Earth being Earth-3 is like pottery
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>>79109604
I'm so excited to have it again.
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>>79109398
>there's something about watching it live with snacks and food with everyone's genuine reactions that's so comfy.

Speaking of snacks and food, anyone else making a night of tomorrow, I'm ordering Chinese
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>>79112215
Probably going to buy some funyuns and fried chicken.
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>>79112215
I'll be ordering pizza. I also got some Twizzlers while I was out earlier for tomorrow.
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>>79099477
what's tomorrows episode about?
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>>79112438
About an hour with commercials.
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>>79107514
If its a wall that could end my life and the lives of everything I hold dear, sure. You would too.
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>>79109828

It almost seems to me like they kind of want to set Jay up as Max Mercury, considering the way he talks about the Speed Force in semi-mystical terms, as a sentient thing.
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>>79112687
Yeah but this is dangerous and fighting crime. Do cops call all the other cops whenever they find a tough criminal?
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>>79112215

I've got leftover pot roast I'm finishing off before I can allow myself to order any more fast food.
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>>79112960
Uh yeah, it's protocol.
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>>79105613
Manapaul and the other guy need to get back on the main ongoing.
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>>79113055
What about cops really far away or on break?
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>>79105447
I cry every time. I dropped it a few issues back. The Booch/Manapul run totally revitalized my love for the Flash. Replacing them with one of the shittiest teams in DC broke my heart.
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>>79114356
One of? Surely this is the worst current team
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>>79114404

The Finches on Wonder Woman are worse.
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>>79102579
>>79102707
Hypertime, bitches.
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>>79107942
Why do they have to make the lightning rigid like that? It's awful.
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>>79099477
I swear, this show is made of pure hype.
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>>79112438
The Turtle FINALLY makes his debut.
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>>79115194
For better or worse, unfortunately. Rewatching some episodes do not hold up nearly as well as the first viewing.
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>>79115335
...just what I always wanted?
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>>79115369
Yeah, you're right. But I'll always treasure those talkback threads.
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>>79113146
I think the analogy would be a lot closer if it were cops from different states. Different jurisdictions with their own problems and all that.
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>>79108252
Great, female Eddie gets killed.
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>>79108061
>>79108170
>>79108639

I keep reading his name as Taco Bell.
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>>79103081
i like this idea, is there still some hope for cisco to become something similar to N52 vibe?
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>>79115371
The Fastest Man Alive vs. The Slowest Man Alive. Should be great.
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>>79115660
One thing's for sure; it's gonna be a short episode this week.
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Jesus it's so close I can feel it.
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>>79107876
>>Barry joins forces with John Diggle (David Ramsey) and his wife, Lyla Michaels (Lily Marie Anderson), to help A.R.G.U.S. recapture King Shark, who has escaped from captivity and is hellbent on completing his mission of destroying the Flash on Zoom's behalf.


HYPE!!!!
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>>79107876
>king shark wasnt just an orgasmic 3 second throwaway villain

HOL UP
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>>79118003
17 more hours
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>>79103084
>Barry and Ollie are the only ones at the funeral
>Barry and Ollie are the only ones who know about Ollie's son

holy shit
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>>79118784
>tfw have work and it's be 26 hours
Just fuck and shit everything.
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>>79102957
Thea > Patty >>> Iris > Killer Frost Caitlin, Linda, Felicity > Caitlin >>> Laurel, Kendra >>> Sara

Willa Holland is a fucking goddess
Lance genepool is gross
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>>79118784
>will be stuck at work then
>work's internet is too shit to stream even though I can get away with it
wweh
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>>79119290
Shit, Golden Glider up there with Patty, by the way
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>>79107876
>Barry confronts Eliza Harmon, an exceptionally bright scientist, who, as a result of exposure to the unstable Velocity-6 speed serum, develops a malevolent split personality known as "Trajectory".

Harry's been naughty...
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ugh, barry is like perfect the bf. why can't guys like that exist irl? ):
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>>79111922
wut
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>>79100748
they didn't hire her for acting ability, not even joking. listen to Kriesberg's interview with Kevin Smith - hired her because she's hot.
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