>>79054350 Why there's isn't anything human about him he's s am extremely powerful evil demon thing whose enjoys putting people in hellish torment for the fun if it and the only thing that can stop him is divine intervention by God himself no much room for misunderstood emo fucker
>>79054241 >Able to gather spirits of the dead >Able to summon demons from hell >Spends all night rocking out to classical music with his demon minions on the mountain top preparing to attack the town below and ends up running out of time. or Pic related >Accidentally freezes her entire Kingdom in less than a minute >Accidentally freezes her sister's heart in a panic attack >Able to create sentient life out of snow >Able to harness control of her power to almost kill two guards. >Power only held in check by love for her sister. You can say she's not a villain, but you'd be wrong.
>>79054618 Exactly anyone who isn't God will get destroyed in fucking minutes just trying to touch him he can bring spirits from hell and torment the living as much as it pleases him until God get off his ass to stop him either any hero should be screwed
>>79054798 >>79054828 She was originally a villain, and is one step away from it in canon as it is. Besides, if you accidentally kill a town full of people, I'm pretty sure they still give you the death penalty.
>>79054545 Anon is referring to Maleficent. Old Mal doesn't have a single good deed or positive trait to her name; she's petty, spiteful, brutal, ruthless, and takes pleasure in how utterly evil she is. Yet along comes a movie that claims that she was just misunderstood, really.
>>79054864 whatever she was ""originally"" is not what she is in the movie. no one died, or even got hurt besides the Prince. comparing her actions to mass manslaughter isn't just as her actions weren't mass manslaughter.
I could call into question many people's driving and say ' everyone who's NEARLY had an accident has NEARLY had a hundred. it's simple statistics. they're all as bad as if they did have an accident and thus they shouldn't have licenses. ' But i won't say that, because something that didn't happen is not comparable to something that did happen.
>>79055153 Only image I've got and I ain't hanging out on snowchan to find something better. My goal was to have a picture of Onion Elsa, not to allow people to read the page. I'd crop it, but I don't feel like spending 9000 hours in paint. If you want to read what it says: a. buy the art book b. find a torrent of the art book c. beg on snowchan for this image in higher resolution d. invest some time in a google search that may or may not garner results.
>>79055056 Yeah I think he is he does admire his work and probably thinks he awesome (according to house of mouse) but it doesn't seem lie they know each other much so hades is probably a few tiers below him
>>79054867 Such a disappointing movie. Leaving her alive without her wings was probably the most evil thing in the movie though. Would've been much more merciful and kind to kill her after he chopped them off
>>79055746 He would need to make a contract with spirits for a very powerful soul, but he could probably curse multiple people at once and at the very least do half of the things that anon said Elsa could do
>Chernobog (Proto-Slavic *čĭrnŭ 'black' and *bogŭ "god"), also spelled as Chernabog, Czernobog, Chornoboh, Crnobog and Tchernobog is a Slavic deity, whose name means black god, about whom much has been speculated but little can be said definitively. The only historical sources, which are Christian ones, interpret him as a dark, accursed god, but it is questionable how important or malicious he was really considered to be by ancient Slavs. The name is attested only among West Slavic tribes of the 12th century, hence it is speculated that he was not a very important or very old deity. Older scholarship assumed him to be the counterpart of Belobog.
>>79056465 Where do they're powers stem from anyways they managed to destroy mostly everything but did they use their combine power to pull it off how OP is a single beyonder realy? did Hickman ever explain this in his entire run
It's a little off topic, but I think here is the place to ask it. I have a copy of Fantasia 2000 on VHS that I haven't watched since I was a kid. Is it significantly better or worse than other versions of Fantasia?
>>79064112 They let Meet the Robinsons get the way of Up. Russell was originally named Lewis.
Besides, they didn't expect Frozen to be this gigantic thing. Was one of those movies with a troubled production history they thought was gonna be an piece of shit. Then the Snow Miser decided to do a spot of viral marketing for them with the polar vortex.
It's not nearly as good as the original, but I still enjoyed watching it. Firebird Suite is far and away the highlight but I really loved the Rhapsody in Blue sequence (mainly because I fucking love Gershwin in the first place).
>>79054241 >Villain I think you have the wrong idea of what a villain is. Just because someone is physically imposing, dark and controls the spirits of the dead, as well as demons, doesn't make them a villain. No living beings were harmed during Night on Bald Mountain. It's their own fault for assuming.
That said, yes, I am indeed the strongest character in Disney canon.
Satan in Jewish tradition is "The Accuser" or something of an agent of God that tempts and tests human beings. As salvation moved away from adherence to the law, to a more personal testimony and relationship with the divine with Christianity, Satan himself moved more from something that tests according to the Law, and a personal tempter and source of evil.
>>79075075 And to further stress this point, the name "Chernobog" doesn't really mean anything in regards to whether or not the character is supposed to represent the Judeo-Christian devil, because the devil goes by many names.
>>79062876 Hades in Greek mythology was the closest thing the Greeks had as a concept to true justice and impartiality.
The only crime of Hades was in kidnapping his niece to be his wife (the incest part, in the logic of Greek mythology, is okay as long as a god does it since there's literally nobody else they can fuck and make more gods). But she grew to love it, and only missed returning to the mortal world and hanging out with her mother.
Hades had literally forgotten to tell her that eating food in the afterlife makes you unable to live in the non-afterlife world, but she's still allowed to spend half the year when she wants up here and on Olympus. Otherwise, she serves as the friendly face of the grim reaper in guiding souls into their new homes, promising fairness to them.
While Poseidon and all of the male second generation of gods other than Hephaestus plot Zeus's death and their own rise to power, Hades wants none of it. He wants you to get off his lawn because the afterlife is really financially profitable and he prefers their company to other gods and mortals.
>>79070886 He got beaten by the powers of god, since it was a church bell. Considering that's the ultimate endgame its arguable that the fact only that was able to banish him points to him being strong.
>>79076211 This is kinda variable, though. The Greeks generally hated Hades, and didn't want him to be around because... well, he's the God of the Dead, and few people want to be reminded of that. The Greeks just kinda took it for granted that Hades wasn't a nice guy, and temples dedicated to him were pretty rare. Saying you were a follower of Hades was a good way to imply you were morbid at best and seriously messed up at worst.
>>79076211 >While Poseidon and all of the male second generation of gods other than Hephaestus plot Zeus's death and their own rise to power, Hades wants none of it. He wants you to get off his lawn because the afterlife is really financially profitable and he prefers their company to other gods and mortals. He was also considerd the god of the inner Earth itself and everything found within it. Like gold, metals, and gems. So he was considered the wealthiest god.
>>79063118 Most depictions of Satan drew from Pagan tradition. If you look through lists of Christian devils or demons, a couple of them are named after someone else's god as a "fuck you, you're worshipping a demon" (see: Baphomet from Muhammad, Baalzebub from Ba'al).
So a lot of artists, when drawing Satan, drew inspiration from pagan imagery. Most obviously, the cult of Pan was fairly infamous, because Pan is a god of lust, sex, and swinging around your big dick, and Christianity hasn't ever been the biggest fan of that. So they started drawing Satan as a guy with horns, a beard, and goat legs, as a way of saying "Aha! All your drunken revelry and wild orgies aren't actually fun! They're secretly being run by the Devil!"
>>79079263 >The devil using the name of a slavic deity because Disney is P-U-S-S-Y
Moreso because a lesser known slavic deity's name is a lot easier to trademark. The ship has kind of sailed on trademarking Satan.
Anyone who watches Night on Bald Mountain knows pretty damn well what it is they're really looking at. They could have used the name Nasty McNightmare and the character would still be an obvious depiction of the devil.
>>79077667 Treasure is magic. It's like a form of authority that exists in an object. It's like if you took a king and put a portion of his power into sigil, now all of it's kind hold that power. It's a tiny king you can put into your pocket. So many people can be made to agree on the value of things and the power those things have over the people that use them can be seen as almost mystical. We take it for granted these days but it really is incredible.
There are plenty of religious rituals and sacrifices that use coins or some other type valuable object. In fact the sign of Pentacles in tarot are often meant to represent the power of magic as well as wealth. Understanding the mysteries of coin would be understanding the core concept of "value." Controlling coin would mean controlling anything a human could consider valuable.
It could mean Hades, despite being a creepy mother fucker, had the power to build nice things. So as much as you might hate him you must give him respect if you want nice things. It truly would be a vague and terrible power.
>>79081838 No. Satan is the title of Lucifer. Lucifer is the great accuser. He tempts people into committing evil and then makes a claim on their souls through accusation, hence he holds the title of the Satan.
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