Am i missing something...? Was this the most confused, shittiest, none-coheasive thing ever?
Some of the tie-ins were better than the entire thing and certain things were just so random.
Also in issue 6 both spidermans come around the tree and go down to molecular man. where in the tie-in is this? All i can find is that they are both busy in the Ultimate End.
Maybe it's because i havent read marvel in a while but this was a bad reboot, epic, story, whatever arc.
also not killing off peter park was a coward move
it was an outline for a good story. the 9 issues were like the skeleton of the story but it lacked any meat or depth. It felt like pages and pages were missing, especially towards the end. I was left confused and wondering as to what happened or how it happened or why it happened.
>it was an outline for a good story
Pretty much this. Hickman's notes, graphs, and outlines for the book probably make it sound like the greatest comic of all time, but the end result was deeply flawed.
It was the greatest comic that we never got to see.
The whole premise was pretty great and all but Hickman had 3 years some 50+ issues to tell his epic and failed to get anything out of it but a boing slow burn. It's actually kind of depressing.
I enjoyed it. Tie-in's were great. I also like the fact that there's a lot of unanswered questions that could be resolved with some pretty fun stories:
>what happened to battleworld?
>who's in control?
>are there some of the characters that survived the incursions left on battleworld after the big fight?
>are they gonna be incorporated into the new constructed multiverse?
>can molecule man be trusted?
>are the beyonders really dead?
As mentioned in a couple of older threads, I found it to be acceptable but thought Hickman could have easily finished the whole thing in 8 issues or less, he just took too much time setting everything up and by the time he realized he was dawdling too much he needed the ninth issue.
How did I not make this comparison when I read this Wednesday
Like everything Hickman, it starts off strong then peters away into mediocrity before ending in a wet fart.
I can still remember the hype threads as people were screaming their heads off over the ultimate Doom vs. Reed vs. Maker matchup. Instead nothing fucking happened, I barely even remember the tie-ins.
>say i enjoy something
>gotta be shilling for it
I agree, comics suck pretty bad right now. I saw maybe 3 compelling titles in all 45 or so that Marvel launched recently.
I get it though. I like something you don't like. I'm a shill.
I don't think it was THE shittiest non-cohesive thing ever but it definitely went off the rails pretty quick. it was tight as fuck at the beginning but fell totally apart by SW#4 or #5.
it would have worked a lot better if it had fewer characters and fewer plot points. Phoenix and Captain Marvel ate up page space for no reason, for example. Maker should have betrayed and neutralized Thanos immediately because he was a waste of space, too.
this entire series should have been about Reed+Maker shenanigans, but it just had to be an all-the-characters event, and that fucked it up. well, also Hickman never had any idea what the ending was going to be and had no plan; that also kind of fucked it up
>All i can find is that they are both busy in the Ultimate End.
Those were the duplicate Peter and Miles created by Doom. The survivors, i.e. the originals, were on the rafts.
Alternatively, just blame Bendis for ignoring continuity yet again.
>also Hickman never had any idea what the ending was going to be and had no plan; that also kind of fucked it up
No, he knew. The problem was that it only depended on Reed, Doom, and the Molecule Man. Everyone and everything else were irrelevant.
im just not sure what the point of it all was. are things really that different in the universe now?
more was at stake than in Original Sin, which was basically just a way for them to get rid of Nick Fury and make it as hard as possible for writers to bring him back.
but for this, i just have no real idea yet