>Smexy Manbot Edition
We're still looking for:
The Art of IDW's Transformers
I Am Optimus Prime (Robot Heroes)
Official Transformers Collector's Club Magazine comic strips from issues #56-onwards.
=Titan UK comic=
v4 #15 onwards
Rescue Bots Roll Out (Available free at BotCon 2011 and some retailers)
Prime Alert (Packed with the Fire Station Prime playset)
Rescue Bots Respond (Packed with electronic Heatwave)
Rapid Rescue (Packed with electronic Chase)
Any full scans of the Collector's Club Magazine itself would also be awesome.
I only have 3H #1, and Fun #4, #5, #15, #23 and #31 in full.
Also in general any better quality scans of stuff already in the pastebin would be appreciated, the Marvel G2 stuff is amazingly LQ
What are the chances we are gonna see Megatron appear in season 2 or the movie?
I went to SDCC last year, and while there was no talk about Megatron showing up, the staff looked among themselves and said "no comment on that" when that question was asked instead of simply "not in the plans" as they said when Starscream was asked about.
So I think it's def possible, it was a really delayed reaction, gave me a "do we say yes or no?" vibe.
I like how they can change their paint to match terrain at will. I've always thought it would be cool of Transformers used their scanning powers to take on different colors for better disguises.
The panel happened at a time when season 1 hadn't finished airing yet so they were hush hush about season 2, but a particularly revelant thing said was that season 2 would likely see the return of one of these characters: Knockout, Ratchet and Fowler.
We use mega nowadays.
He had a family emergency and his editor obliged. It's gonna be a long two months before #4 hits.
JRo wants to hear about what MTMTE means to you.
What're you fags looking forward to? Following all three titles?
We're getting exRiD next week, and the full preview just came out.
Realistically, I think Kup could incite some good old-man banter, bitch about the Dark Universe, and Jetfire does a science that makes Galvatron angry, then Jazz and Thundercracker team up with Marissa to pull a downing move on Galvatron.
But the victory is only momentary, Galvy is a veteran.
>Bought the complete Beast Wars DVD from Shout! Factory
>Season 1 has the cut-down intro
Swift. She joined the cons after her boyfriend, Barricade, died in Redemption.
She seems pretty cool and determined. In the last issue she was kind of horrified to hear that they're going to kill people if need be, but here she is, in on the action.
She's great. Even did a strip with the Torchbearers on her tumblr.
>She joined the cons after her boyfriend, Barricade, died in Redemption.
>She joined the cons
What the FUCK?!
Redemption wasn't actually that bad. The Ramondelli atmosphere fit it in a way, and I liked the plot.
You wot m8? The camiens and the cons have been mixing well together, and the camiens have seen that the current government treats the cons like shit, so they sympathize. When Menasor attacked Caminus, it was mostly Decepticons who helped them.
she seems like a chill person. her love for the torchbearers warms my cold dead heart.
Well, there's bi-polar Windblade, superdyke extremist Chromia, the Religious lunatics of the Flame, The vomit-inducing Victorian, the canvassers trying to spread the "word of Prime"
Yeah, nothing good comes from Caminus.
Nautica is a quantum engineer, hell, she taught Perceptor shit. Even Windblade and the Cityspeakers are a really valuable asset for everyone.
Posting Sara's Torchbearers strip
No bot is perfect.
This one was her commentary on how she had to remove the ladders from Pyra Magna's design. It's a cute explanation as for why.
Much as I love Nautica, I'm 100% positive they'll fuck up with her somehow. It's just the times we live in.
Nautica is great but the "Nautistica" fans yelling at Jro to make her explicitly autistic are going to ruin her without a doubt.
I see you're strawmanning, but I take that there are serious opinions behind the words.
What makes you think Windblade is bi-polar? Chromia I think can be a fair criticism, she was dangerous with her stranger panic, but she's mixing well with Ironhide and is not a good soldier.
I seriously fail to grasp what you mean with religious lunatics, Cybertron's religion-based bullshittery is miles worse, and I haven't actually seen anything super-bad from the Camien side.
What in Victorion is vomit-inducing, despite the prototype paintjob?
Do you usually think that all religion is bad, or is there more reason as to why you dislike the preachers?
>that the current government treats the cons like shit
Because the cons keep STARTING shit maybe?
Yes there's inequality, but the Decepticons are giving plenty of reasons to keep their numbers suppressed.
It's more than just the one. It's just that that one individual in particular is very VERY vocal about it. She has a whole posse of like minded followers if you check out her twitter or tumblr you might see them.
She even added scratches to where the ladders used to be. Pyra Magna had them in her first appearance in the Combiner Hunters one-shot, but now they're removed.
I've seen it. Really it's not a huge deal. It only is when your actively seeking out these kinds of things. Like a crazy person with a megaphone screaming out in public. You gotta learn to ignore them.
>What makes you think Windblade is bi-polar?
Incosistancies between writers. When she first appeared she was a stoic badass warrior, when her mini started she became a naive scared worrywort, and she keeps flipping back and forth.
>Chromia I think can be a fair criticism, she was dangerous with her stranger panic, but she's mixing well with Ironhide and is not a good soldier.
Does not change the fact she got away with it and will never be made to owe up to her actions.
>I seriously fail to grasp what you mean with religious lunatics, Cybertron's religion-based bullshittery is miles worse, and I haven't actually seen anything super-bad from the Camien side.
Optimus is falling apart because of what the Camiens expect from him, glorifying him as a Jesus figure.
>What in Victorion is vomit-inducing, despite the prototype paintjob?
The colors, the unoriginality, and the sheer pointlessness, but mostly the colors.
>Do you usually think that all religion is bad, or is there more reason as to why you dislike the preachers?
After five years of fighting them off on campus, I very much loathe them.
Here she is
The windblace matter has been settled over, in DC Barber and JRo tried to keep her as bland as possible, because Scott was her designated writer. She really wasn't stoic or badass, your memory is playing tricks on you.
I don't understand how Chromia getting away with her crime is relevant.
>Optimus is falling apart because of what the Camiens expect from him, glorifying him as a Jesus figure.
Have you been reading the comics? He actively seeks their opinion, because he doesn't know himself anymore.
The Torchbearers have a pretty solid role, I recommend checking out exRiD #47 if you want to learn more. What about them you think is unoriginal, because for me they read as a pretty neat and new idea.
I sympathise with your struggle with religious nuts. My father's side of the family is pretty bad on that regard.
>Does not change the fact she got away with it and will never be made to owe up to her actions.
Sunstreaker betrayed the Autobots and nearly got Optimus killed yet they welcome him back with open arms.
>Optimus is falling apart because of what the Camiens expect from him, glorifying him as a Jesus figure.
Optimus was having troubles before that. He is still trying to find a place in the world after the war.
>The colors, the unoriginality, and the sheer pointlessness, but mostly the colors.
Blame the fans for that.
Can you give an example of what the cons on Cybertron have done to deserve their lot? In Punishment we're told that they don't get jobs because the Autobots are the ones in higher places, thanks to winning the war. The Decepticons have to live in slums outside the new Iacon.
Then there's Starscream's badgeless who keep abducting people, and the Combaticons are pissed about Swindle's fate.
Galvatron's neo-Cons however, they deserve whatever they get, even if they did try play nice for a bit.
Then there's guys like Skullcruncher.
>in DC Barber and JRo tried to keep her as bland as possible, because Scott was her designated writer. She really wasn't stoic or badass, your memory is playing tricks on you.
It's more like Barberts had a different idea for the female transformers being Cybertronians from the early days of the war while Scott's idea of the colonies is straight from Hasbro's Binder.
Asking for more specific instances. The Stunticons attacked Optimus because he was an idiot and walked into their ghetto. It's been stated again and again that Optimus is the face of war, even more so for the Decepticons. They want is prancy ass out of there. Same for when the Cons threw scrap at Starscream when he was driving through with Wheeljack.
It's insult to injury when rich-ass, well-settled, high-class assholes come to gawk at your shitty little house.
Er, that's delving into their origin, not characterization.
You both are wrong as evidenced by what we have in canon. All other colonies have female bots except Cybertron. If she was going along the lines of Aligned, only Caminus would have them.
>You both are wrong as evidenced by what we have in canon. All other colonies have female bots except Cybertron. If she was going along the lines of Aligned, only Caminus would have them.
>If she was going along the lines of Aligned, only Caminus would have them.
The colony worlds are the refuge of the Thirteen Primes, that's why Eukaris has beasts, the titan there, Chela, served Onyx Prime. Caminus is a servant of Solus, and Tempo was probably Vector Prime's. Nickel's colony is more difficutl to pinpoint, but I suspect Alchemist Prime.
According to Aligned, only those descended from Solus Prime are fembots, an that "female" is a type of Cybertronian as opposed to just one gender.
>It's more like Barberts had a different idea for the female transformers being Cybertronians from the early days of the war
Nice job pulling that out of your ass. The LL crew were confused at them being female, and it was mentioned how Nautica only knew who Ratchet was because she had read million of years' worth of history.
They were never planned to be people who used to live on Cybertron.
>According to Aligned, only those descended from Solus Prime are fembots, an that "female" is a type of Cybertronian as opposed to just one gender.
I could be mistaken but wasn't it mentioned in some recent thing that there is more than just the one female Prime Solus? I think it was said somewhere that one of the other Primes was going to be revealed to be female also.
>there are people who don't want to pledge their allegiance to Galvatron and conquer worlds with him
Buster is going to get stomped and TC will be suffer.
Buster gets shot and it takes her a long time to get proper care and she'll end up amputated.
TC struggles with the reality that Buster can't just have a replacement limb attached. Or that she'll have a disability for the rest of her life. Which is short.
The epilogue must be TC flying in the sky at dawn with Buster in the cabin. No choice.
I SAID NO CHOICE
It's from the Transformers Holiday Special.
>(W) Brandon Easton (A) Priscilla Tramontano (CA) Marcelo Matere
>In a World... Where OPTIMUS PRIME Never Died! One would stand and one would fall... and we all know OPTIMUS PRIME fell. But how would history have played out if he hadn't? Would the AUTOBOTS have still stood triumphant in their darkest hour... or would UNICRON have reigned supreme?!
I'm a bit on the fence, it seems interesting but I'm not a huge fan of the artist's work.
TC has the best story of the book. in fact, it is the only good story all the special. And it has the best iteration of Megatron in years.
I hope they do something a bit different. Like, making it Prime vs Starscream because Unicron didn't dare show up. As opposed to retreading the movie and either having the same or completely opposite result.
Yes, because since Solus Prime is a member of the 13, there had to have been females in the pre-Nova Prime era.
But that came after the colony stuff and doesn't prove anon's belief that Windblade, Chromia, and Nautica were Cybertronians who fled at the start of the war at all.
I tried giving it a chance, tried to give it a fair shake
Nope, it's still horrible.
looks like something out of Warhammer
wait, I thought radiation wouldn't affect them
>implying Prowl hasn't always been a villain
We've seen 'em before. Antique Anti-Rad armour.
right! they were those Kup encountered!
I totally forgot about them,
didn't they say that the reason for Kup's behaviour were the stone which sent out some sort of frequence?
I don't think they can be poisoned by radiation
Shut up just shut up, that dog will die from old age while being gently rocked by TC who will accept it and recognize that she had a good life, full of adventures and better than most dogs have ever had.
Buster deserves the best.
Nah, Siren specifically refers to it as the radiation frying his brain.
Plus, as we know from Beast Wars and the movie, Energon is radioactive. (And I'd say that's what was wrong with the Plasma Energy Chamber. It condensed Energon into a usable state, but produced radiation at the same time which incapacitated those around it.
And like other forms of Energon Radiation, it's harmless to organic life.
Well, maybe there's a shred of hope.
He is in the Noisemaze after all, which screams lies at him in an attempt to destabilize who he is. Maybe Mesothulas (I kind of prefer that name to Tarantulas actually. It's neat) is using the Noisemaze to rewrite Prowl's history of himself, to make him into the monster that Mesothulas wants him to be.
On the other hand, he's probably just Ozymandias from Watchmen, only Adrian didn't chicken out afterwards.
Also, Prowl's not actually in the Noisemaze anymore, remember? He's being hung up in webs in a place outside of its effects. Otherwise he'd be constantly having seizures as Mesothulas tried talking to him.
Oh boy Roche. He's pulling the Sideways = Tarantulas thing. Holy shit am I ever so ready for that.
I like how the plan actually makes sense, no matter how sinister. That's how radicalization works, and it's cool to see Prowl is doing the math. How many innocents for a few Autobots, and how many get killed to save more.
Nice nice, very nice.
Verity looks really good, dunno what other anon is about. The colours are crazy, Burcham is really putting in his all here.
>He's pulling the Sideways = Tarantulas thing. Holy shit am I ever so ready for that.
If he was actually going to do that he'd have the character's pre-Tarantulas name be Sideways, not Mesothulas.
Colours + Design elements.
Might be a case of the codenames, Chromedome used to be Tumbler and all that.
The grey head is the only thing I can see which really connects them, and that's because Mesothulas is based on the original toy. Amusingly using the normal/blackarachnia head, rather than the mutant head which is more commonly used for him.
Otherwise he's purple and yellow. Colours shared by both Tarantulas and Sideways.
Oh, I consider it very likely that they're the same bot. It's just hard to judge immediately so.
(Plus, I kinda wonder about movieverse Chopsaw. What with his purple/yellow/grey scheme, turning into a bike and multiple eyes.)
Pls... Pls... get Megatron to this shit somehow. I want to see Megatron Talk Prime down from killing Prowl...
Or even better. Megatron and Prowl going at it verbally over Megatron having the nerve to try and take a moral high ground and stop him.
I need this interaction. Autobot Megatron must have his encounter with Prowl.
Just how far do things have to go for Prowl to end his own suffering? Megatron brings back the Knights of Cybertron? Optimus becomes a tyrant? Starscream going down in the history books as a GOOD leader?
>Prime kills Prowl, Megatron and Prime realize as long as they are around its never going to get any better, go off into space in exile like old beat up fighters embracing after a long drawn out match.
>Prime can't kill Prowl but knows that he is comprised beyond repair. Megatron tells prime to leave... No one saw who killed prowl, but he died a hero ( to prevent a backlash against the autobots for prowls deeds )
>Prime fully intends to kill Prowl. Megatron talks him down, because he sees his own fall in Primes actions.
>>Prime kills Prowl, Megatron and Prime realize as long as they are around its never going to get any better, go off into space in exile like old beat up fighters embracing after a long drawn out match.
I want to see this part especially.
Just the act of transforming could be classed as perfidy.
And then of course there's the Autobot's use of chemical weapons such as glass gas, rust guns, and acid rainmaker rifles.
These are things that you don't really think of, but are really fucked up.
Yeah, the escalation of war is a crazy thing.
It actually reminds me of something I liked in WFC/FOC. Overshields.
In War for Cybertron, they were rare items, possessed only by a few dedicated assault troops, in the field in limited numbers, or developed by scientists.
In Fall of Cybertron, everyone had them as standard issue, and it wasn't ever mentioned.
The war had gotten so bad they needed Overshields as routine equipment.
Threadly reminder that not ONE Autobot died during the Great War.
Inb4 "evidence" about how fusion cannons were made from Autobot spark casing. There's so much disinformation that's been widely accepted as part of the official story.
>Which Great War?
Exactly the kind of questions you should start asking. There's so many discrepancies and different accounts of the same "Great War".
You don't think the "heroic Autobots" would be capable of designing something like that if they were also capable of resorting to false flag assassinations/explosions as well as vamparc weaponry?
Separate the narratives you've been told from the people telling them, and look at the facts. Which side do you think is more characteristic of such atrocities?
You know what? It's time to just nuke all of them. Galactic Alliance or whatever just needs to kill all mechanical life and call it a day.
I like how RID plays up the Autobots as cops instead of soldiers.
I'm from a cop family so it's good to see that some people out there don't think we're all violent scumbat monsters that hate niggers.
Mentally unstable people are arrested and put in maximum security all the time dude. Specially the ones likely to be dangerous to other mental instituion patients, which is where RID's weirdos fall into.
Please read a little about subjects.
There is no point to this. Both sides are abominations and the other lifeforms such as the Humans, Galactic Council, and Ammonites are also shit. The ideal end would just be the death of the entire universe.
Actualy they're often put into maximum security wards and hospitals, but not in prison.
Though this is irrelevant argument since this is 1- a kid's cartoon that like doesn't operate on hard real world logic and 2- cops have to arrest criminals in first place before they can be analyzed and decided if they are guilty of crimes or not, so none of this is Bumblebee's fault he's just doing his job of making sure people don't get hurt.
The Windblade miniseries starts with her being optimistic about Starscream, the exRID issue has her say "I'm wary of everyone" despite her series published that same month showing that she's the exact opposite...
Let's just all agree that Megatron was right, but he let it go a little overboard with the organic genocides and inquisitions.
But we all saw what would have happened if the war never started and it was arguably worse.
I can't honestly blame him for the organic genocides. Just look at what organics do when they meet cybertronians.
Harvest them, reverse engineer them, use them like technology. The list goes on
He used the
SpaceBridge in his chest to transport the pieces throughout Earth
I don't recall Humans ever discovering those things besides the infiltration, of course and they still went through with the manipulation and headmaster programs.
>I can't honestly blame him for the organic genocides. Just look at what organics do when they meet cybertronians.
Really? Megatron believed it was the right of Cybertronians place in the universe to take over other worlds and colonize them. Hince the Infiltration protocols. So I can see why other worlds would be very cautious or down right against them. Reverse engineer the shit out of them to protect themselves.
It's funny because the humans just want the Cybertronians to go but they just keep fucking bot leaving.
Like the EDC did that truce with Soundwave partially so the Decepticons would kick the Autobots out and fuck off to Jupiter, and yeah I guess TC staying was fine because he's just one guy and basically just harmless but now the Autobots came back! Galvatron has an itch to conquer shit! And now with Optimus wanting to annex Earth that shit is just going to trigger everyone.
Did Megatron ever show concern for the intrinsically weak after Terminus? Was there any place for them in his vision of the post-war future? It seems like his whole army is people that were already strong who just needed to be let off the leash, people who had the potential to be strong without society grinding them down, and people who were at least somewhat useful as fodder when provided an extreme amount of discipline.
What do you think I think it means? I don't think Megatron had any patience for people that provided no utility to his revolution/empire, and I think he was willing to provide whatever pressure necessary to make people as useful as possible, and when it came to organics that got pretty messy because what the fuck is an organic going to do but die fast.
There's few Earths in the TF multiverse where dealing with Transformers doesn't bite them in the ass hard. I don't think any English G1 derived comic has had Earth escape without some major calamity taking countless lives.
Once those robots find your planet, you're basically fucked. They may go away for a short while, but they will always come back and it's usually the genocidal crazy ones that come back first.
In Megatron Origins he didn't. The weak hobos on the streets were melted down for construction. Though I don't know if his stance on that still stands since it was a different writer. Some things doesn't seem to mesh well with different writers.
They hated the non-organics because of the annomintes guys and their war. Not that the cybertronians didn't help justify their own hatred, what with their war also doing evil shit and dragging down others with them.
Non-organics fuck everything up.
>benevolent dictator Prime.
I want him to wear a big fancy cloak.
Still wondering what happens once he takes over, will everything just be back to normal on earth except with the random giant Cybertronian? Considering a lot of people have PTSD from Decepticons running around and shooting, squishing and dismembering people not everyone is going to be OK with it.
Although seeing how shameless our media is I can see some Cybertronians being made into celebs, hey maybe at some point Cybertronians become accepted enough for TC to be able to fulfill his longtime dream of being a trashy writer.
I'm HOPING it will be that it will turn out like G1 did, where they all get along and cybertronians end up living happily along side earth. Because as refreshing as it was for both sides to be morally gray, I'm tired of the Autobots being bad guys.
I'm expecting it to not end well, and they fight each other hardcore.
There is something about bots in regal stuff I find really sexy.
It's garbage. There's a somewhat decent fight between the combiners near the end that was interesting (Defensor and Superion take advantage of their ability to split and recombine while in combat), but otherwise it was poop. Didn't help that the Decepticon combiners barely got to do anything but be beat up.
I can't wait to see what Hasbro and Takara have in store for the 20th anniversary.
Yeah that would be the ideal thing for me too, both humans and Cybertronians banding together in peace and harmony and I guess it could have happened if Megatron and the Decepticons hasn't fucked shit up.
From what I read from that one Newsarama AHO interview with Barber, pretty much the majority of humans are opposed to it (although some understand Optimus' reasoning) along with Marissa and the EDC, Starscream, Soundwave, Galvatron and the Decepticons.
I am guessing at some point some humans will start accepting it but I expect groups of Decepticons and humans teaming up to take Optimus and his crew down, also Spike fucking shit up if he manages to escape the EDC.
Nah, it's gonna turn out that Tarantulus basically manipulated him and mentally broke him, and that's ultimately why he tossed him into the noizemaze.
But the result turns out better than Prowl expected, to he starts to sound all too much like Tarantulus.
Then, of course, it turns out Tarantulus had a 2 way connection to prowl's brain, and it's his personality that has been slowly seeping in all these years.
But Prowl hates himself for letting it happen, and goes nuts.
At least the Autobots held war trials.
Secret trials, where their judge was a piece of software, and their punishment was sensory oblivion with no chance of showing remorse, of serving your time, or atoning for your actions.
Yeah, after the war... which is now.
Turns out they didn't want the neutrals to know just how many war crimes they'd been committing. And this isn't even counting shit like what Prowl pulled, given that never even had the chance of going to trial.
I suppose Overlord did them a favour. Now all those war criminals are dead.
I'm 19 episodes in and this show is way more fun if you go with the headcanon that Prime hates the rescue bots and actively screens their calls while praying they die.
The Bublebee episode especially seems like Prime had Ratchet create an artificial meteor and virus, then used the land bridge to send it higher up in the atmosphere so that it appeared extraterrestrial. Then he sent Bumblebee to ensue that all the rescue bots were infected. Failing his mission Bumblebee goes back to base in shame.
Fun fact! The reason why Milne drew faces all similar in the early days was because he was taking cue from G1 same faces. But since some people didn't get the connection, he started to do slight differences.
Honestly the face part is the least important part to differentiate bots. If someone can't tell who is who just from the bits around the faces then they have problems.
Because the Wreckers weren't mandated by Hasbro.
Many of them were characters who couldn't be used in the cartoon anyway. Given that they weren't by Takara.
Basically they were a bunch of characters who hadn't been used, all put together in one group. If Hasbro had wanted to use those characters, the Wreckers wouldn't have had them.
Hasbro US didn't advertise or have the Deluxe Autobots in any US media due to Takara not wanting them getting any more publicity than necessary due to a third party being the original owners of the molds. Same reason the Deluxe Insecticons never appeared in any US media.
The US comic also went out of it's way to not have the movie or future mode characters in it's stories, with only outliers like Kup and Hot Rod being regular cast members. Offhand I don't think Ultra Magnus or Springer even appeared in the normal US comic timeline.
Pardon my ignorance, but were some (if not most) of the Transformers from the Wreckers in the UK comic not even based on a toy, and a totally original creation of Simon Furman's?
Well, sort of.
You had the Jumpstarters and Deluxe Vehicles who had toys, but you also had Rack'n'Ruin and Impactor, who were original characters.
There was also Xaaron, who was kind of their mentor.
Of course, they were soon joined by the Autobot triplechangers as well.
Comic never time jumped and the comic just never got around to those characters when they were relevant to the brand. At the point Furman took over the US comic the series was already declining and Magnus and Springer and the movie toys were already 'old' at that point so there was no reason to bend the narrative around to shove them in and Hasbro wanted the NEW new toys given spotlight. So we get Micromasters, Pretenders, Head/Target/Power Masters instead of movie characters with the notable exceptions of Galvatron, Hot Rod and Kup (Cyclonus showed up only to get killed in his debut issue by Galvatron for incompetence).
At least the focus on newer toy characters let the comic bring characters like Thunderwing, Nightbeat, and Bludgeon to the spotlight, who wouldn't be as well known today if they were never in the comic. Shame IDW killed off Thunderwing so early in their canon.
Oh yeah, I completely forgot he was brought back briefly for that original Dead Universe expansion story. The story actually did lose track of him and he fell through the cracks with zero resolution as you said.
The same could be said for the waifufags in the fembot threads.
But either way, no. None at all.
Impactor's original design is pretty interesting. Particularly the Megatron-like face
Now I am sad that JL/Transformers crossover didn't happen, especially since that GL Optimus image looked cool.
Maybe if the Batman and TMNT crossover does good it can still happen.
I don't know. Previous cape comic crossovers were pretty shitty.
I'm wondering if Roberts would have approved of Guzzle drinking all that Energon and getting all hulked out?
The Autobots will never be respected on Earth.
feels bad man.
That actually might make some sense. Though how would it explain the Costa run?
the arms all over the place is distracting.
that is perfectly disturbing.
To be fair, all those remains in that Wreckers pic were from facsimile constructs. Training dummies of the Ten Deadliest Killers (A group consisting of the Decepticon triple changers, the coneheads, the insecticons, and Mr. Donotsteal, aka Macabre)
>Dreamt IDW Megatron was getting a job at the robot races to make enough money for Christmas.
>Instead Whirl hires him as an intern and ended up buying chinese food for Christmas.
>This is the reason why Megatron keeps Whirl alive as a reminder.
>Mfw my brain tries to make me believe this is canon after waking up.
Why can't I ever get sexy dreams.
Nope. If you read their introductory issue in Dark Cybertron (MTMTE 26), it's very much hinted that they have been Autobots for awhile ( the issue with the dust on the badges), but they have been out of circulation for the duration of the war(4 million years). It's all there and it's clear that Barberts hadn't planned a colony origin. That is from Hasbro's binder.
>We could have had something like this
>could have ran it on HUB once they got the rights back
>could have had a block of G1, Beast Wars/Machines, RiD, Animated, Prime/nuRiD
alas poor network, you died before your time.
>TF5 might be filmed in Chicago again
Even though they are Bay movies I am enjoying the fact this city plays a big role.
Please destroy that eye-sore Trump tower.
>Wonder which one makes Rung first.
Whoever it is, they could make a pen out of him.
That was with Marvel though and the writer was shit.
The only good thing about that crossover was Spidey teasing Megatron and being a smartass and Carol getting hit by Autobots in their alt modes, but yeah it was pretty shit.
So any ideas why Frank Welker didn't voice Frenzy or Rumble in Transformers Devastation?
Anyone have that old fancomic about Dinobot choosing/contemplating between honor and glory? Not sure if it was him during his last stand or his conflict as Dinobot II.
Iirc it was from an old Beast Wars (fan?)site a few years back, I don't think it was from Transformers Mosaic but I'm not certain.
Never mind, it's from the fan-creation of that canceled Beast Wars episode.
Think I used to but this is all I can find in my folder
The Autobots got demolished by the DJD and that was before the addition of Deathsaurus and his fearsome five-hundred. What's different this time around?
>season 2 crew, e.g. Riptide, Nightbeat, Getaway, Nautica
>maybe no Ratchet/Drift
>deus ex machina?
All those greentexted things but also, the Lost Light knows now exactly how bad the DJD are because they have Rewind's video of them destroying it once already.
If Tarn is still using any t-cogs from the destroyed Lost Light, the second he gets in close enough proximity to the owner's currently living version, the t-cog he's using should disappear just like things disappeared when the two Lost Lights were too near one another. No idea how good or bad that could be though.
What if Starscream just needed some positive affirmation rather than physical abuse and constant insults to become a content subordinate and one day an effective leader?
>tfw after the Battle of Autobot City, Megatron praises Starscream for his efforts in the battle, and comments on his capability to lead the Decepticons, before succumbing to his injuries
>a tearful departure is had between leader and subordinate, and a matured Starscream is filled with a spirit to regroup and launch a counterattack against the weakened Autobots
The Decepticons are successful, and they're able to sue for peace with Unicron in exchange for the Matrix?
It would have been interesting to see a complex but different relationship between Starscream and Megatron, as Victory (with Deathsaurus and Leozack) was rather short-lived.
If anyone could recommend decent fanfiction I'd also be obliged. Or just greentext your plot/interaction ideas, or whatever!
Well, I'm pretty sure that that's what he needed. But Megatron was in the role of a warlord and that's how he decided to rule. If he started to play favourites (Soundwave though) it'd end up with problems. His army is warbuilds, they're fundamentally different than Autobots. They simply can't have the same kind of dynamic, no matter how beneficial it possibly could be.
It's survival of the fittest, Leonard.
Carrot and stick though
Iirc in the movie he practically insults Starscream in his face who was just standing there
>Unlike some of my other warriors, you never fail me. [glances pointedly at Starscream, who looks up]
so it could be argued that he was a bit selectively excessive/abusive even for healthy tyrannical standards. In Victory and possibly/probably other examples in the Japanese shows there existed relatively healthier dynamics between leader/subordinate and among subordinates, so in a general sense (with regard to Decepticon culture?) it certainly wasn't impossible.
Or maybe the G1 series is just Autobot propaganda
On an unrelated note, there's a lot of redesigned toys coming out for characters old and new, and a certain number of these characters have been neglected in the cartoon/comic medium (I mean G1/Marvel). Would people be more willing to buy these toys (if they were of passable quality and) the pack-in comics were well-written one-shots giving depth and complexity to the characters? I feel that this could give a lot of different fans what they want or newfound interests, and also buy toys. Everyone wins!
Yeah I definitely agree that he singled out Starscream as a recipient of his violence. That as well may have been a tactical decision, since it does give others a warning example, on the cost of Starscream's loyalty.
Starscream keeps being rebellious, Megatron has reason to beat him up, example to others, rinse and repeat.
So in a certain way, being the second in command of the Decepticons means you are an example for others, in good and bad. You need to be able to endure the responsibility (getting rekt) and to be able to display tenacity.
It's fucked up man.
It would have been more effective to deal with a consistent problem in a permanent manner (was Starscream THAT valuable when we still don't have toys for all the Seekers that ever existed) to serve as a better example imo. Megatron getting manhandled by Bruticus makes him look like a pushover. Or maybe just demote him to rock-bottom, just something other than physical/verbal punishment.
I don't want to go full-on
>was Starscream's antics a causal effect of Megatron's abuse
but certainly investigating the question would have some degree of merit.
On the other hand, Starscream could have chosen to develop character and prove himself a more capable lieutenant and future leader. Maybe the latter would have gotten him killed off, idk how that would have worked. There's definitely a lot of what-ifs and complexity that could be explored.
I'm hoping Roberts further explores positive relations among (non-DJD) Decepticon ranks, but who knows. I should have written him a thing for his letters page, FUCK.
All of these great characters will not be used and die!
The game has a lot of signs it was either rush out the door or went though revisions a few times
I mean hell Skywarp was just a blurp at the end when they gave the other 2 proper scenes/missions related to them.
Impressive! Deathsaurus looks a bit young, but maybe this was when he was in his prime.
I mean in your example, while Megs did get manhandled, he also got 5 new guys AND another combiner out of it. So he probably keeps Starscream around because, while he's always fucking things up, his treachery sometimes is beneficial.
In this case the emotional reaction would be overwhelming joy.
But seriously, it isn't always just the important characters that get killed off, Z-list cannonfodder die all the time to make the battles look more serious.
soundwave by sakura1129 interests me more
>ALL HAIL OPTIMUS part 3! OPTIMUS PRIME has declared the Earth to be his territory... but even he can't go it alone. Now he reaches out across the galaxy to form a coalition-of old friends and older enemies.
>WEB OF DECEIT! The search for PROWL leads the WRECKERS deep into enemy territory-and that's where they're at their best! Unfortunately, with the lives they've lived-the pasts they battle to escape-even their best isn't enough to save everybody.
the G1 cartoon is fine if you want lighthearted fun.
the old marvel comics if you want dark, violent, and absurd.
Prime is a must if you are a fan of lore and world building.
Beast wars is a must if you're a fan of scifi themes in general.
lastly, the main IDW transformers comics you can pick up pretty much right after dark cybertron. Avoid More than Meets the Eye though, as it's really only enjoyable to people who understand all the characters involved in the first place.
Oh, and definitely watch the 80s movie.
Outdated, but you can grab the most up to date comic one from the link provided on it. The Cartoon one isn't missing much, just the current show, I believe.
Someone with the most recent ones might be around to post them too.
What's the point?
The only good one already had their character mutilated and killed off before Roberts even got his hands on him. :(
>Avoid More than Meets the Eye though, as it's really only enjoyable to people who understand all the characters involved in the first place.
Or you could just start MTMTE from the beginning. Like Prime, it has tons of world building. It was my introduction to transformers (barring watching beast wars back when I was a kid, but I didn't remember anything from the show, only that I had watched it. ) and I found it very enjoyable and easy to get into.
Just start with The Death Of Optimus Prime and go into More Than Meets The eye from there.
If it's Thundercracker I will rage, anyone else I am OK with though.
I am also fine with any of the humans biting it, however I don't wish it on Agent Jones or Jimmy Pink since they haven't done anything awful.
Spike is a human who managed to piss off a lot of Cybertronians, butthurt Prowl, and still manage to be alive so fucker won't go down easily.
Very much for sexual
Shockwave is hot no doubt about that and Baroness is a badass, she would make a good Decepticon if she wasn't a squishy and you know from another franchise.
There's nothing heterosexual about Cobra Commander
> Avoid More than Meets the Eye though, as it's really only enjoyable to people who understand all the characters involved in the first place.
This is a load of BS. Just start with Death of Optimus Prime and people can back track later for more information on cretain characters if they want.