Transformers General

New issues when?

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What are the chances we are gonna see Megatron appear in season 2 or the movie?

>>79003605
the fuck are you trying to pull here buddy?

>>79004455

who knows?

>>79004455

I went to SDCC last year, and while there was no talk about Megatron showing up, the staff looked among themselves and said "no comment on that" when that question was asked instead of simply "not in the plans" as they said when Starscream was asked about.

So I think it's def possible, it was a really delayed reaction, gave me a "do we say yes or no?" vibe.

>>79004455

I like how they can change their paint to match terrain at will. I've always thought it would be cool of Transformers used their scanning powers to take on different colors for better disguises.

>>79007390
Any other hints of things to come?

when does the next sins of the wreckers come out

>>79007973

The panel happened at a time when season 1 hadn't finished airing yet so they were hush hush about season 2, but a particularly revelant thing said was that season 2 would likely see the return of one of these characters: Knockout, Ratchet and Fowler.

>>79008447
Hopefully never.
Wreckers are boring & overrated.

>>79004370
Next Wednesday. exRiD and nuRiD.

>>79008447

isn't their a hiatus this month?

>>79014170
No. The SOTW hiatus doesn't start until next month.

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>>79014341
why is there a hiatus on it? is it a marketing thing?

>>79003605
>http://pastebin.com/9qmr1uq6
somebody still uploading here?

I missed these threads.

>>79015748
I wondered what happened to them. There wasn't an issue this week or the last, right?

>>79014526
It is still periodically updated, still missing alot too though. Someone needs to get on TFAnon to update it.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1so6esc

Anyone here getting in on this?

>>79014412
It's a creative thing m8. Roche needed more time.

>>79017585
I'm gonna have a go at it but I doubt many people will actually make it in.

>>79019064
Wish you luck!

>>79019457
You too anon, if you try.

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>>79019457
>>79020281
What is being picked to be included? Is it just well-wishers for the series hitting 50?

>>79003605

We use mega nowadays.

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>>79018209

He had a family emergency and his editor obliged. It's gonna be a long two months before #4 hits.

>>79021906

JRo wants to hear about what MTMTE means to you.

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What're you fags looking forward to? Following all three titles?

We're getting exRiD next week, and the full preview just came out.

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>>79024176
Do Jazz, Kup, Jetfire, and Thundercracker actually stand a chance against Galvatron?

>>79025225
Tracks is still alive and Megatron is an Autobot. Anything is possible

>>79025225

Realistically, I think Kup could incite some good old-man banter, bitch about the Dark Universe, and Jetfire does a science that makes Galvatron angry, then Jazz and Thundercracker team up with Marissa to pull a downing move on Galvatron.

But the victory is only momentary, Galvy is a veteran.

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>Bought the complete Beast Wars DVD from Shout! Factory

>Season 1 has the cut-down intro

>MFW

>>79026102

Dang, what exactly does it cut?

>>79024310
i love this artist's work

>>79026148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLuasPi0T8U

the cut-down-for-syndication intro

>>79024310
Who is the con blasting Arcee?

>>79026285

Swift. She joined the cons after her boyfriend, Barricade, died in Redemption.

She seems pretty cool and determined. In the last issue she was kind of horrified to hear that they're going to kill people if need be, but here she is, in on the action.

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>>79026161

She's great. Even did a strip with the Torchbearers on her tumblr.

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>>79026341
>She joined the cons after her boyfriend, Barricade, died in Redemption.

>She joined the cons

What the FUCK?!

>>79026392

Not officially, but judging by where she's hanging out, that's what I gathered.

>>79026341
What. I don't remember any-
>Livio Ramondelli
>Dinobots

Ooooh.... Nevermind. At least she looks like an interesting character.

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>>79026392
>>79026341

Nothing good (or intellegent) ever comes from Caminus, does it.

>>79026484

Redemption wasn't actually that bad. The Ramondelli atmosphere fit it in a way, and I liked the plot.

>>79026516

You wot m8? The camiens and the cons have been mixing well together, and the camiens have seen that the current government treats the cons like shit, so they sympathize. When Menasor attacked Caminus, it was mostly Decepticons who helped them.

>>79026516
I wouldn't say that. Windblade is keeping Starscream on his toes so far. If anything, it's been Cybertron that's been giving Caminus shit to deal with.

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>>79026386
she seems like a chill person. her love for the torchbearers warms my cold dead heart.

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>>79026550

Well, there's bi-polar Windblade, superdyke extremist Chromia, the Religious lunatics of the Flame, The vomit-inducing Victorian, the canvassers trying to spread the "word of Prime"

Yeah, nothing good comes from Caminus.

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>>79026516

Nautica is a quantum engineer, hell, she taught Perceptor shit. Even Windblade and the Cityspeakers are a really valuable asset for everyone.

Posting Sara's Torchbearers strip

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>>79026632
No bot is perfect.

Except Thunderclash.

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>>79026685

This one was her commentary on how she had to remove the ladders from Pyra Magna's design. It's a cute explanation as for why.

>>79026341
And she's one of the few people who knows that a hot spot on Cybertron has reignited.

Is she going to tell the other Decepticons?

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>>79026664
Much as I love Nautica, I'm 100% positive they'll fuck up with her somehow. It's just the times we live in.

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>>79026744
Nautica is great but the "Nautistica" fans yelling at Jro to make her explicitly autistic are going to ruin her without a doubt.

>>79026632

I see you're strawmanning, but I take that there are serious opinions behind the words.

What makes you think Windblade is bi-polar? Chromia I think can be a fair criticism, she was dangerous with her stranger panic, but she's mixing well with Ironhide and is not a good soldier.

I seriously fail to grasp what you mean with religious lunatics, Cybertron's religion-based bullshittery is miles worse, and I haven't actually seen anything super-bad from the Camien side.

What in Victorion is vomit-inducing, despite the prototype paintjob?

Do you usually think that all religion is bad, or is there more reason as to why you dislike the preachers?

>>79026816
Isn't it just one idiot on twitter doing that? I haven't seen anyone else trying to push that agenda.

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>>79026550
>that the current government treats the cons like shit

Because the cons keep STARTING shit maybe?

Yes there's inequality, but the Decepticons are giving plenty of reasons to keep their numbers suppressed.

>>79026855
It's more than just the one. It's just that that one individual in particular is very VERY vocal about it. She has a whole posse of like minded followers if you check out her twitter or tumblr you might see them.

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>>79026727

She even added scratches to where the ladders used to be. Pyra Magna had them in her first appearance in the Combiner Hunters one-shot, but now they're removed.

>>79026916
I've seen it. Really it's not a huge deal. It only is when your actively seeking out these kinds of things. Like a crazy person with a megaphone screaming out in public. You gotta learn to ignore them.

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>>79026854
>What makes you think Windblade is bi-polar?

Incosistancies between writers. When she first appeared she was a stoic badass warrior, when her mini started she became a naive scared worrywort, and she keeps flipping back and forth.

>Chromia I think can be a fair criticism, she was dangerous with her stranger panic, but she's mixing well with Ironhide and is not a good soldier.

Does not change the fact she got away with it and will never be made to owe up to her actions.

>I seriously fail to grasp what you mean with religious lunatics, Cybertron's religion-based bullshittery is miles worse, and I haven't actually seen anything super-bad from the Camien side.

Optimus is falling apart because of what the Camiens expect from him, glorifying him as a Jesus figure.

>What in Victorion is vomit-inducing, despite the prototype paintjob?

The colors, the unoriginality, and the sheer pointlessness, but mostly the colors.

>Do you usually think that all religion is bad, or is there more reason as to why you dislike the preachers?

After five years of fighting them off on campus, I very much loathe them.

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>>79026484

Here she is

>>79027009
girl who did you THINK you were joining up with.

>>79027062
Camiens will believe anything.

>>79026962
That's true.
Now If only Jro could learn to ignore these people like that.

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>>79026995

The windblace matter has been settled over, in DC Barber and JRo tried to keep her as bland as possible, because Scott was her designated writer. She really wasn't stoic or badass, your memory is playing tricks on you.

I don't understand how Chromia getting away with her crime is relevant.

>Optimus is falling apart because of what the Camiens expect from him, glorifying him as a Jesus figure.

Have you been reading the comics? He actively seeks their opinion, because he doesn't know himself anymore.

The Torchbearers have a pretty solid role, I recommend checking out exRiD #47 if you want to learn more. What about them you think is unoriginal, because for me they read as a pretty neat and new idea.

I sympathise with your struggle with religious nuts. My father's side of the family is pretty bad on that regard.

>>79026995
>Does not change the fact she got away with it and will never be made to owe up to her actions.
Sunstreaker betrayed the Autobots and nearly got Optimus killed yet they welcome him back with open arms.

>Optimus is falling apart because of what the Camiens expect from him, glorifying him as a Jesus figure.
Optimus was having troubles before that. He is still trying to find a place in the world after the war.

>The colors, the unoriginality, and the sheer pointlessness, but mostly the colors.
Blame the fans for that.

>>79027343
>Sunstreaker betrayed the Autobots

Sunstreaker was being controlled by Bombshell, he just had a pre-existing reason to lash out.

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>>79026870

Can you give an example of what the cons on Cybertron have done to deserve their lot? In Punishment we're told that they don't get jobs because the Autobots are the ones in higher places, thanks to winning the war. The Decepticons have to live in slums outside the new Iacon.

Then there's Starscream's badgeless who keep abducting people, and the Combaticons are pissed about Swindle's fate.

Galvatron's neo-Cons however, they deserve whatever they get, even if they did try play nice for a bit.

Then there's guys like Skullcruncher.

>>79027577
It hasn't been organized, but there's been a lot of instances of Decepticons starting shit. The Stunticons pre-Enigma of Combination come to mind.

>>79027306
>in DC Barber and JRo tried to keep her as bland as possible, because Scott was her designated writer. She really wasn't stoic or badass, your memory is playing tricks on you.

It's more like Barberts had a different idea for the female transformers being Cybertronians from the early days of the war while Scott's idea of the colonies is straight from Hasbro's Binder.

>>79027643

Asking for more specific instances. The Stunticons attacked Optimus because he was an idiot and walked into their ghetto. It's been stated again and again that Optimus is the face of war, even more so for the Decepticons. They want is prancy ass out of there. Same for when the Cons threw scrap at Starscream when he was driving through with Wheeljack.

It's insult to injury when rich-ass, well-settled, high-class assholes come to gawk at your shitty little house.

>>79027671
>while Scott's idea of the colonies is straight from Hasbro's Binder
pretty sure thats exactly what's happening

>>79027671

Er, that's delving into their origin, not characterization.

>>79027803

You both are wrong as evidenced by what we have in canon. All other colonies have female bots except Cybertron. If she was going along the lines of Aligned, only Caminus would have them.

>>79027880
>You both are wrong as evidenced by what we have in canon. All other colonies have female bots except Cybertron. If she was going along the lines of Aligned, only Caminus would have them.
>If she was going along the lines of Aligned, only Caminus would have them.
How so.

>>79027931

The colony worlds are the refuge of the Thirteen Primes, that's why Eukaris has beasts, the titan there, Chela, served Onyx Prime. Caminus is a servant of Solus, and Tempo was probably Vector Prime's. Nickel's colony is more difficutl to pinpoint, but I suspect Alchemist Prime.

According to Aligned, only those descended from Solus Prime are fembots, an that "female" is a type of Cybertronian as opposed to just one gender.

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>>79027671
>It's more like Barberts had a different idea for the female transformers being Cybertronians from the early days of the war
Nice job pulling that out of your ass. The LL crew were confused at them being female, and it was mentioned how Nautica only knew who Ratchet was because she had read million of years' worth of history.

They were never planned to be people who used to live on Cybertron.

>>79027576
That was afterwards. Bombshell didn't start messing with Sunstreaker's mind until issue AHM 6-8 when Sunstreaker started to guilt-trip with flash backs of his betrayal

>>79028063
>According to Aligned, only those descended from Solus Prime are fembots, an that "female" is a type of Cybertronian as opposed to just one gender.
I could be mistaken but wasn't it mentioned in some recent thing that there is more than just the one female Prime Solus? I think it was said somewhere that one of the other Primes was going to be revealed to be female also.

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>there are people who don't want to pledge their allegiance to Galvatron and conquer worlds with him

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>>79028393
Megatron's better.

>>79028393
Only if I get to touch his six pack.

>>79028500
Why? Why are either of them good?

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>>79028660
No idea.

>>79028393
Frankly, I don't get how this story can be resolved in just one issue.

>>79029096
Barber's gonna show you.

The only thing I know is that I don´t want that nobody ruin Thundercracker´s live at the end of "conquerors".

>>79029247

Oh anon. It's gonna be sad.

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>>79029284
NO!

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>>79029247
Buster is going to get stomped and TC will be suffer.

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>>79029334
Would should start placing bets.

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>>79029353

Buster gets shot and it takes her a long time to get proper care and she'll end up amputated.

TC struggles with the reality that Buster can't just have a replacement limb attached. Or that she'll have a disability for the rest of her life. Which is short.

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>>79029374
The epilogue must be TC flying in the sky at dawn with Buster in the cabin. No choice.

>>79029400
I SAID NO CHOICE

>>79029774
What's this from? I must know.

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>>79030741
It's from the Transformers Holiday Special.

>>79030848
Weird, I remember the Grinch-story and the Lost Light story, but not TC there.

>>79031205
Probably because it was the last one in the issue.

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Anyone going to pick up Deviations when it comes out?

>>79033209
what is it?

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>>79033640

>(W) Brandon Easton (A) Priscilla Tramontano (CA) Marcelo Matere
>In a World... Where OPTIMUS PRIME Never Died! One would stand and one would fall... and we all know OPTIMUS PRIME fell. But how would history have played out if he hadn't? Would the AUTOBOTS have still stood triumphant in their darkest hour... or would UNICRON have reigned supreme?!

I'm a bit on the fence, it seems interesting but I'm not a huge fan of the artist's work.

>>79033801
I'll give it a read, it's a somewhat interesting premise though I'm with you on the artist.

>>79028101
um, didn't Galvatron saqy he knew Arcee's kind or something?

>>79034173
He did but it was in passing and not really explained.

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>>79031205
TC has the best story of the book. in fact, it is the only good story all the special. And it has the best iteration of Megatron in years.

>>79033801
I hope they do something a bit different. Like, making it Prime vs Starscream because Unicron didn't dare show up. As opposed to retreading the movie and either having the same or completely opposite result.

>>79034173
Yes, because since Solus Prime is a member of the 13, there had to have been females in the pre-Nova Prime era.

But that came after the colony stuff and doesn't prove anon's belief that Windblade, Chromia, and Nautica were Cybertronians who fled at the start of the war at all.

>>79039800
I wish we could get some real answers because alot of that isn't very clear.

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I tried giving it a chance, tried to give it a fair shake

Nope, it's still horrible.

>>79038045
Too bad, the solicit makes it obvious Unicron is showing up.

>>79003605
>pastebin
AT LAST

>>79041252

I think it's the closest thing to watching paint dry I've ever seen.

Correction, watching paint dry while fucking dubstep gets blasted in my ears.

>>79038045
It's probably going to be Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, and Soundwave getting turned into their Machine Wars counterparts, since I doubt they'll give them new designs.

>>79043568
>Machine Wars

Wow, for real?

>>79043624
Nope, but it's the only thing that comes to mind, other than just working with Starscream without giving anyone any upgrades.

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Wreckers #3 preview.

>[Tarantulas intensifies]

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>>79043725
Are you fucking kidding me? So now Prowl doesn't have a leg to stand on, he's just full on villain now.

>>79043746
Wow, Verity just gets uglier and uglier with each appearance.

>>79043821

Well they are in a nightmarish pocket dimension and she's dying from robo-AIDs.

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>>79043725
looks like something out of Warhammer
>radiation
wait, I thought radiation wouldn't affect them

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>>79043783
>implying Prowl hasn't always been a villain

>>79043884
>robot-aids
we know NOTHING of what she has

>>79043911

It's AIDs.

Robot AIDs.

From fucking a robot.

A robot infected with robot AIDs.

>>79043936
maybe she's pregnant?
maybe it's cancer?
maybe she just got a very bad infection?

>>79043821

She's sick, cut her some slack

>>79043955

maybe it's robot AIDs?

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>>79043887
We've seen 'em before. Antique Anti-Rad armour.

>>79018209
Esad Ribic for fill in artist!

>>79043998
right! they were those Kup encountered!
I totally forgot about them,
didn't they say that the reason for Kup's behaviour were the stone which sent out some sort of frequence?
I don't think they can be poisoned by radiation

>>79029353
Shut up just shut up, that dog will die from old age while being gently rocked by TC who will accept it and recognize that she had a good life, full of adventures and better than most dogs have ever had.

Buster deserves the best.

>>79044131
Nah, Siren specifically refers to it as the radiation frying his brain.

Plus, as we know from Beast Wars and the movie, Energon is radioactive. (And I'd say that's what was wrong with the Plasma Energy Chamber. It condensed Energon into a usable state, but produced radiation at the same time which incapacitated those around it.

And like other forms of Energon Radiation, it's harmless to organic life.

>>79037879
I thought it was funny how TC had not-Marissa killed all of that because she doesn't like his writing, lol.

>>79043783
Yeah, him just committing genocide like that completely demolishes any shades of gray he had going on. Jesus.

>>79043821
Well usually TF artists can't draw humans very well also she's dying.

>>79043725
Prowl keeps getting worse and worse, wow.

Well, maybe there's a shred of hope.

He is in the Noisemaze after all, which screams lies at him in an attempt to destabilize who he is. Maybe Mesothulas (I kind of prefer that name to Tarantulas actually. It's neat) is using the Noisemaze to rewrite Prowl's history of himself, to make him into the monster that Mesothulas wants him to be.

On the other hand, he's probably just Ozymandias from Watchmen, only Adrian didn't chicken out afterwards.

>>79044706
Given that we don't see Prowl having this flashback, this theory doesn't really work. It's just a scene from the past.

>>79044706
>>79044936
Also, Prowl's not actually in the Noisemaze anymore, remember? He's being hung up in webs in a place outside of its effects. Otherwise he'd be constantly having seizures as Mesothulas tried talking to him.

>>79043725
I've killed so many I'm a monster.
>>79043736
Fuck it, I'll get rid of this guy too.

>>79044973
>>79044936
Good point.

Well, the Autobots do have a long history of warcrimes, including false flags and worse. It's the whole "giant robot" thing which distracts people from it.

>>79043725

Oh boy Roche. He's pulling the Sideways = Tarantulas thing. Holy shit am I ever so ready for that.

I like how the plan actually makes sense, no matter how sinister. That's how radicalization works, and it's cool to see Prowl is doing the math. How many innocents for a few Autobots, and how many get killed to save more.

>>79043736

Nice nice, very nice.

>>79043746

Verity looks really good, dunno what other anon is about. The colours are crazy, Burcham is really putting in his all here.

>>79045080
I'm probably being blind here, but what's making him Sideways-like?

>>79045080
>He's pulling the Sideways = Tarantulas thing. Holy shit am I ever so ready for that.
If he was actually going to do that he'd have the character's pre-Tarantulas name be Sideways, not Mesothulas.

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>>79045214

Colours + Design elements.

>>79045236

Might be a case of the codenames, Chromedome used to be Tumbler and all that.

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>>79045348
The grey head is the only thing I can see which really connects them, and that's because Mesothulas is based on the original toy. Amusingly using the normal/blackarachnia head, rather than the mutant head which is more commonly used for him.

Otherwise he's purple and yellow. Colours shared by both Tarantulas and Sideways.

>>79045454

True, I just went to check the toy's head because I recalled it has two.

I'm willing to be wrong, as an armadababby I pulled the connection prematurely.

>>79045523
Oh, I consider it very likely that they're the same bot. It's just hard to judge immediately so.

(Plus, I kinda wonder about movieverse Chopsaw. What with his purple/yellow/grey scheme, turning into a bike and multiple eyes.)

>>79029774
What a hack. He can't even write American.

>>79045933
Hey now. TC is trying his darn best to be a great screenwriter.

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>>79043725
Jesus christ Prowl!

>>79045348
>Chromedome used to be Tumbler and all that.
That was when Transformers died.

You know, on the war crimes front, from reading up on things, technically Ratchet is a walking one.

No wonder the Red Cross made them take off his symbols.

>>79045080
>Oh boy Roche. He's pulling the Sideways = Tarantulas thing.
Can't wait to see the 'tism wave hit Allspark.

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>>79043725
>>79043736
>>79043746

Pls... Pls... get Megatron to this shit somehow. I want to see Megatron Talk Prime down from killing Prowl...

Or even better. Megatron and Prowl going at it verbally over Megatron having the nerve to try and take a moral high ground and stop him.

I need this interaction. Autobot Megatron must have his encounter with Prowl.

>>79046833
Pussy.

>>79046913
Just how far do things have to go for Prowl to end his own suffering? Megatron brings back the Knights of Cybertron? Optimus becomes a tyrant? Starscream going down in the history books as a GOOD leader?

>>79046913
>Autobot Megatron
>Autobot Cyclonus
>Deception Prowl
>Deception Star Saber

At this point it's not even surprising anymore.

>>79047088

Only one of those points is true

>>79047088
Star Saber isn;t a Decepticon.

>>79047088
>>79047124
Neither is Cyclonus is an Autobot. He's just tagging along with the LL crew.

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>>79047066

>Prime kills Prowl, Megatron and Prime realize as long as they are around its never going to get any better, go off into space in exile like old beat up fighters embracing after a long drawn out match.

>Prime can't kill Prowl but knows that he is comprised beyond repair. Megatron tells prime to leave... No one saw who killed prowl, but he died a hero ( to prevent a backlash against the autobots for prowls deeds )

>Prime fully intends to kill Prowl. Megatron talks him down, because he sees his own fall in Primes actions.

>>79047144
So he's an Autobot.

>>79047208
>>Prime kills Prowl, Megatron and Prime realize as long as they are around its never going to get any better, go off into space in exile like old beat up fighters embracing after a long drawn out match.
I want to see this part especially.

>>79047223
No, he a modern bot who don't need no label.

Tyrest said everyone constructed cold is predisposed towards sin and has committed horrendous war crimes. Prowl is constructed cold.

Prowls just doing what he was born for.

>>79047208
>go off into space in exile
Optimus tried this once. It didn't work.

>>79047347
I remember when Autobots were good guys.

>>79047369
>There is no megatron waiting to tear the fledgling government into tiny shreds now tho.

>>79047373
Me too. Wish we could have those times back.

>>79047373

Never?

>>79047373
Optimus will never play basketball ever again.

>>79047373
>>79047439
Go watch G1 again?

>>79047553
>Autobots can only be good guys in a 32 year-old cartoon
Yeah, no.

>>79003605

Anyone have the "still looking for" list's manga portion?

>>79047610
Ok well you've also got Rescue Bots and the new RiD cartoon.

>>79047441
Pretty much.
Just the act of transforming could be classed as perfidy.
And then of course there's the Autobot's use of chemical weapons such as glass gas, rust guns, and acid rainmaker rifles.

These are things that you don't really think of, but are really fucked up.

>>79047709
its almost like in a civil war lasting millions of years that neither side can really claim the high ground.

>>79047865
Huh, imagine that. Millions of years of fighting and deaths for both sides and no one's hands can stay clean. Crazy concept indeed.

>>79047898
Yeah, the escalation of war is a crazy thing.

It actually reminds me of something I liked in WFC/FOC. Overshields.
In War for Cybertron, they were rare items, possessed only by a few dedicated assault troops, in the field in limited numbers, or developed by scientists.

In Fall of Cybertron, everyone had them as standard issue, and it wasn't ever mentioned.
The war had gotten so bad they needed Overshields as routine equipment.

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Threadly reminder that not ONE Autobot died during the Great War.

>>79048043
Patchwork did. From the 187th Militia. No one remembers poor Patchwork.

>>79048043
Which Great War? The one in the cartoon certainly had all those dead bots in the movie. And of course Dion.

>>79047865
Good thing it's a cartoon.

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>>79048112
>187th Militia
Inb4 "evidence" about how fusion cannons were made from Autobot spark casing. There's so much disinformation that's been widely accepted as part of the official story.

>>79048146
>Which Great War?
Exactly the kind of questions you should start asking. There's so many discrepancies and different accounts of the same "Great War".

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>>79048043

>>79048588
Wow morally corrupt autobot government so original and unique

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>>79048588
Look at
>>79043725
>>79043736
You don't think the "heroic Autobots" would be capable of designing something like that if they were also capable of resorting to false flag assassinations/explosions as well as vamparc weaponry?

Separate the narratives you've been told from the people telling them, and look at the facts. Which side do you think is more characteristic of such atrocities?

>>79047539
I hate how IDW Optimus has been wallowing in self-pity for so long, and the new arc seems to be making things even worse.

>>79048997
I think (hope) it's building towards that All Hail Optimus issue we're getting.

>>79049103
>All Hail Optimus
Is really just Optimus putting his foot down on the whole stance with earth? Like simply getting tired of all the Decepticon BS with earth.

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>>79043725

PROWL DID NOTHING WRONG!

>>79049795
Being in IDW is always something wrong.

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>>79043725
You know what? It's time to just nuke all of them. Galactic Alliance or whatever just needs to kill all mechanical life and call it a day.

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>>79049883
Yep.

>>79050194
Isn't the GA doing that already after the whole titan fiasco in MTMTE? They already started eradicating Cybertronian colonies like Nickel's home world.

>>79050306
They need to speed up the progress.

>>79046878
Called it, anon. Razorsaw lost his mind, again.

>>79047669

I like how RID plays up the Autobots as cops instead of soldiers.

I'm from a cop family so it's good to see that some people out there don't think we're all violent scumbat monsters that hate niggers.

>>79043725
>It's about ethics in guilt determination
Really?

>>79051292
Instead you are just racially profiling people that hit those in need of mental health treatment and lock them up.

>>79051572
Welcome to IDW.

Daily reminder:
>Animated>Prime>original animated series>Rescue Bots>Robots In Disguise

>>79051990
Nobody cares what you prefer.

>>79051817

Mentally unstable people are arrested and put in maximum security all the time dude. Specially the ones likely to be dangerous to other mental instituion patients, which is where RID's weirdos fall into.

Please read a little about subjects.

>>79051990
>Animated
>best anything

Laughing_Devastator.gif

>>79051990

Somebody needs to go back to Beast Mayhem.

>>79051951
There is no point to this. Both sides are abominations and the other lifeforms such as the Humans, Galactic Council, and Ammonites are also shit. The ideal end would just be the death of the entire universe.

>>79052110

>Shockwave was right all along

>>79052128
It is only logical.

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>>79052128
He's never wrong to begin with, anon

>>79052057

Actualy they're often put into maximum security wards and hospitals, but not in prison.

Though this is irrelevant argument since this is 1- a kid's cartoon that like doesn't operate on hard real world logic and 2- cops have to arrest criminals in first place before they can be analyzed and decided if they are guilty of crimes or not, so none of this is Bumblebee's fault he's just doing his job of making sure people don't get hurt.

>>79052057
Why do that when I can just echo opinions I have heard online?

>>79027306

The Windblade miniseries starts with her being optimistic about Starscream, the exRID issue has her say "I'm wary of everyone" despite her series published that same month showing that she's the exact opposite...

>>79053555

She's trying to pull off a charade, she's talking to Optimus ffs. She comes from Caminus

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Let's just all agree that Megatron was right, but he let it go a little overboard with the organic genocides and inquisitions.

But we all saw what would have happened if the war never started and it was arguably worse.

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>>79053743
I can't honestly blame him for the organic genocides. Just look at what organics do when they meet cybertronians. Harvest them, reverse engineer them, use them like technology. The list goes on

>>79051292
Cop lives don't matter.

>>79054263

Only the black ones.

Megatron became a hero when he graduated from writing about how the system sucked to taking direct action against it by murdering a cop.

>>79054314

Well, he was a trying to kill a senator. The guy he actually killed was one of his bodyguards.

>>79053882
Still waiting for how they explain why Megatron left bits and pieces of Ramjet around on Earth on purpose.

and HOW he left pieces in the Pentagon and such.

>>79053882
Ok. But maybe the organics do that because when cybertronians meet organics they get infiltration protocols, pink alchemy, destroyed climates, etc.

>>79054506

Lol that was in response of the organic threat. Black Block consortia + Galactic Council and organic supremacy existed before the war.

>>79054570

That's just some of Tarn's propaganda BS.

They were cyber-forming those planets and sucking them dry of resources.

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>>79054417
He used the SpaceBridge in his chest to transport the pieces throughout Earth

>>79054506
I don't recall Humans ever discovering those things besides the infiltration, of course and they still went through with the manipulation and headmaster programs.

>>79054652

If you don't believe what Tarn told Deathsaurus, then go and read Chaos Theory. Megatron says it himself.

>>79054688

The Headmaster thing was a Scorponok project though.

>>79054722
Shit, my memory is kinda fuzzy on that..

>>79054688
The space bridge in his chest came later.

>>79053743
Really, just stop Megatron from going "We must secure the existence of our systems and a future for Cybertronian protoforms," things'd be much better.

>>79053882
>I can't honestly blame him for the organic genocides. Just look at what organics do when they meet cybertronians.

Really? Megatron believed it was the right of Cybertronians place in the universe to take over other worlds and colonize them. Hince the Infiltration protocols. So I can see why other worlds would be very cautious or down right against them. Reverse engineer the shit out of them to protect themselves.

>>79049354
It's funny because the humans just want the Cybertronians to go but they just keep fucking bot leaving.

Like the EDC did that truce with Soundwave partially so the Decepticons would kick the Autobots out and fuck off to Jupiter, and yeah I guess TC staying was fine because he's just one guy and basically just harmless but now the Autobots came back! Galvatron has an itch to conquer shit! And now with Optimus wanting to annex Earth that shit is just going to trigger everyone.

>>79055144
>not

Did Megatron ever show concern for the intrinsically weak after Terminus? Was there any place for them in his vision of the post-war future? It seems like his whole army is people that were already strong who just needed to be let off the leash, people who had the potential to be strong without society grinding them down, and people who were at least somewhat useful as fodder when provided an extreme amount of discipline.

>>79055379
>intrinsically weak
I don't think that's what you think it means..

>>79055414
What do you think I think it means? I don't think Megatron had any patience for people that provided no utility to his revolution/empire, and I think he was willing to provide whatever pressure necessary to make people as useful as possible, and when it came to organics that got pretty messy because what the fuck is an organic going to do but die fast.

>>79055144
There's few Earths in the TF multiverse where dealing with Transformers doesn't bite them in the ass hard. I don't think any English G1 derived comic has had Earth escape without some major calamity taking countless lives.
Once those robots find your planet, you're basically fucked. They may go away for a short while, but they will always come back and it's usually the genocidal crazy ones that come back first.

>>79054697
Yesssss. Because Megatron is definitely a reliable source that does not need to justify anything.

>>79054570
Earth in Galactil Council when?

>>79055379
In Megatron Origins he didn't. The weak hobos on the streets were melted down for construction. Though I don't know if his stance on that still stands since it was a different writer. Some things doesn't seem to mesh well with different writers.

>>79055834
>Earth in Galactil Council when?
Never because Optimus is inducting them into the Council of Worlds.

>>79055834
They hated the non-organics because of the annomintes guys and their war. Not that the cybertronians didn't help justify their own hatred, what with their war also doing evil shit and dragging down others with them.

Non-organics fuck everything up.

>>79056030
Even though it's retarded, I'm really looking forward to seeing benevolent dictator Prime.

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>>79056095
>benevolent dictator Prime.
I want him to wear a big fancy cloak.

Is it possible to get a print sub to IDW stuff? I really liked the art and story of Mtmte and stuff like monstrosity and autocracy so what would you guys suggest I read next?

>>79056212
Me too.

>>79056248
Subscription? Not sure.

Have you read Last stand of the wreckers?

>>79056095
Same here, especially since shit will hit the fan especially since no one but Optimus (and those that think he's like a godly being) wants this.

>>79056331
I liked last stand of the wreckers it had a similar tone to the Last light stuff which I liked alot.

>>79056433
I like not all Autobots being perfect good and Autobot paranoia towards each other. It's an interesting dynamic.

>>79056433
That's because James Roberts was a co-writer for Lsotw.

>>79056539
Does he have a hand in Sins of the Wreckers at all or is it only Roche?

>>79056636
Sotw is written 100% all Roche.

>>79056095
Still wondering what happens once he takes over, will everything just be back to normal on earth except with the random giant Cybertronian? Considering a lot of people have PTSD from Decepticons running around and shooting, squishing and dismembering people not everyone is going to be OK with it.

Although seeing how shameless our media is I can see some Cybertronians being made into celebs, hey maybe at some point Cybertronians become accepted enough for TC to be able to fulfill his longtime dream of being a trashy writer.

Is Combiner wars good? Haven't read it yet and was wondering if I should catch up.

>>79056816
I'm HOPING it will be that it will turn out like G1 did, where they all get along and cybertronians end up living happily along side earth. Because as refreshing as it was for both sides to be morally gray, I'm tired of the Autobots being bad guys.

I'm expecting it to not end well, and they fight each other hardcore.

>>79056816
It would be years before the public ever accepts them. Unless Optimus makes a VERY convincing announcement throughout the media.

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>>79056212

There is something about bots in regal stuff I find really sexy.

>>79056951
combiner wars a shit

>>79056951
It's garbage. There's a somewhat decent fight between the combiners near the end that was interesting (Defensor and Superion take advantage of their ability to split and recombine while in combat), but otherwise it was poop. Didn't help that the Decepticon combiners barely got to do anything but be beat up.

>>79057444
Fuck yes, i want more megatron in fancy stuff.

>>79057444
>>79058191
Holy shit yes pls.

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I can't wait to see what Hasbro and Takara have in store for the 20th anniversary.

>>79058278
Hasbro probably won't do much. The recent Rhinox and Rattrap figures were peg warmers.

>>79058333
They should re-release them again but do the same for each other core member of the TV show including the Preds, under a new toyline.

>>79057181
Yeah that would be the ideal thing for me too, both humans and Cybertronians banding together in peace and harmony and I guess it could have happened if Megatron and the Decepticons hasn't fucked shit up.

From what I read from that one Newsarama AHO interview with Barber, pretty much the majority of humans are opposed to it (although some understand Optimus' reasoning) along with Marissa and the EDC, Starscream, Soundwave, Galvatron and the Decepticons.

I am guessing at some point some humans will start accepting it but I expect groups of Decepticons and humans teaming up to take Optimus and his crew down, also Spike fucking shit up if he manages to escape the EDC.

>>79056248

You can subscribe in you local comic book store, or online. If you do it online, you can have the issues mailed to you.

>>79058826
>Spike fucking shit up

I don't think my mind can handle all of the rage bubbling from within if this happens.

>>79058435
>toys don't sell and sit on pegs for months on end
>"they should put more of them on shelves!"

Seriously, mate?

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>>79058278
>>79058333
Masterpiece Optimus Primal.

>>79059314
>>79058333
Weird, the beast stuff flew off the shelves in my area. I still see Roadbusters and Doubledealers to this day.

>>79059362
Is it only the Optimus?

>>79060250
So far, yeah.

>>79043783
Nah, it's gonna turn out that Tarantulus basically manipulated him and mentally broke him, and that's ultimately why he tossed him into the noizemaze.
But the result turns out better than Prowl expected, to he starts to sound all too much like Tarantulus.
Then, of course, it turns out Tarantulus had a 2 way connection to prowl's brain, and it's his personality that has been slowly seeping in all these years.

Full retcon.

But Prowl hates himself for letting it happen, and goes nuts.

>>79050277
oh my god, this is amazing.

>>79064198
I thought so too.

>>79064198
>>79064215

>inb4 you're ameritards who don't understand satire

>>79064307
Some see satire, others see truth.

>>79064355

It's an imitation of a satire artist's work.

If you see "the truth" in the image without the satire, then congratulations, you're the part of people the satirical piece mocks.

>>79050277

Is that Boulder as Kelly? Beautiful.

>>79064378
I don't know, "mouthpiece that never transforms" sounds exactly like the sort of thing Roberts writes.

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At least the Autobots held war trials.

>>79065710
all of the robots thus far transformed at some point of the story
>except for Ambulon, but he transforms into a leg so-

>>79065789
Secret trials, where their judge was a piece of software, and their punishment was sensory oblivion with no chance of showing remorse, of serving your time, or atoning for your actions.

>>79066122

They were gonna go public with it eventually at least.

>>79066147
Yeah, after the war... which is now.

Turns out they didn't want the neutrals to know just how many war crimes they'd been committing. And this isn't even counting shit like what Prowl pulled, given that never even had the chance of going to trial.

I suppose Overlord did them a favour. Now all those war criminals are dead.

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I'm 19 episodes in and this show is way more fun if you go with the headcanon that Prime hates the rescue bots and actively screens their calls while praying they die.

The Bublebee episode especially seems like Prime had Ratchet create an artificial meteor and virus, then used the land bridge to send it higher up in the atmosphere so that it appeared extraterrestrial. Then he sent Bumblebee to ensue that all the rescue bots were infected. Failing his mission Bumblebee goes back to base in shame.

>>79067020
I wish we'd get the new season already.

>>79067020
I find it really cute the Rescue bots are smaller than Bee... and Bee is second from the smallest in the Prime group.

>>79067020
>all that sameface

>>79067020
I don't think Prime hates them,
they just happen to be civilians while Team Prime are military
how often do you see the military work together with ordinary policemen?

>>79070600
Swat teams called in?

>>79069960
Still better than that dreck from the Windblade comic. Not Stone, the other one.

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Based as fuck.

>>79070882
Greebled as fuck. Belongs in the third party art thread.

>>79070956
Not really. Has about the same level of detail as original, just stylized.

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>>79070882
FUCKING AWESOME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tn8aqgUR1E

>>79070882
Who did this and how can I subscribe to their newsletter?

Yes or no, would Age of extinction been better if it started with this scene instead of how it started
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0awklmH5jy8

>>79069960
You know not being able to distinguish faces from one another is a classic sign of autism. Seriously.

>>79073157
Fun fact! The reason why Milne drew faces all similar in the early days was because he was taking cue from G1 same faces. But since some people didn't get the connection, he started to do slight differences.

Honestly the face part is the least important part to differentiate bots. If someone can't tell who is who just from the bits around the faces then they have problems.

>>79074292
>If someone can't tell who is who just from the bits around the faces then they have problems.

Yeah, autism.

All this autism talk is triggering.

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What do you guys think of my epic meme?

>>79075034
Impressive memeing my friend

Why did The Wreckers only appear in the UK comic back in the 80's? Why didn't Hasbro mandate their appearance in the Marvel US comic and cartoon?

>>79076407
Because the Wreckers weren't mandated by Hasbro.

Many of them were characters who couldn't be used in the cartoon anyway. Given that they weren't by Takara.

Basically they were a bunch of characters who hadn't been used, all put together in one group. If Hasbro had wanted to use those characters, the Wreckers wouldn't have had them.

>>79076407
Hasbro US didn't advertise or have the Deluxe Autobots in any US media due to Takara not wanting them getting any more publicity than necessary due to a third party being the original owners of the molds. Same reason the Deluxe Insecticons never appeared in any US media.

The US comic also went out of it's way to not have the movie or future mode characters in it's stories, with only outliers like Kup and Hot Rod being regular cast members. Offhand I don't think Ultra Magnus or Springer even appeared in the normal US comic timeline.

>>79076781
>>79076700
Pardon my ignorance, but were some (if not most) of the Transformers from the Wreckers in the UK comic not even based on a toy, and a totally original creation of Simon Furman's?

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>>79074432

>>79076781
Why would it avoid movie characters? Weren't guys like Springer licensed by Takara?

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>>79077735
Well, sort of.

You had the Jumpstarters and Deluxe Vehicles who had toys, but you also had Rack'n'Ruin and Impactor, who were original characters.

There was also Xaaron, who was kind of their mentor.

Of course, they were soon joined by the Autobot triplechangers as well.

>>79077838
I think it was because the movie jumped to 2005 while the Marvel comics stayed in the 80's.

>>79077838
Comic never time jumped and the comic just never got around to those characters when they were relevant to the brand. At the point Furman took over the US comic the series was already declining and Magnus and Springer and the movie toys were already 'old' at that point so there was no reason to bend the narrative around to shove them in and Hasbro wanted the NEW new toys given spotlight. So we get Micromasters, Pretenders, Head/Target/Power Masters instead of movie characters with the notable exceptions of Galvatron, Hot Rod and Kup (Cyclonus showed up only to get killed in his debut issue by Galvatron for incompetence).

At least the focus on newer toy characters let the comic bring characters like Thunderwing, Nightbeat, and Bludgeon to the spotlight, who wouldn't be as well known today if they were never in the comic. Shame IDW killed off Thunderwing so early in their canon.

>>79079418
We actually have no idea what happened to Thunderwing. His fate was never shown, nor was it mentioned.

He could turn up sometime, now with his mind intact.

>>79077904
The Jumpstarters look so gosh darn happy to have brutally dismembered Blitzwing while Whirl and Roadbuster juggle his limbs in the back.

>>79080205
>while Whirl and Roadbuster juggle his limbs in the back
That's how you know it's a party.

>>79077904

I really need to read the old comics they seem fun and chessy

>>79077904
this is beautiful

>Smexy Manbot Edition


do you bitches have no shame

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>>79085645
No.

>>79079571
Oh yeah, I completely forgot he was brought back briefly for that original Dead Universe expansion story. The story actually did lose track of him and he fell through the cracks with zero resolution as you said.

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>>79085645
The same could be said for the waifufags in the fembot threads.
But either way, no. None at all.

>>79073157

I love this pasta.

>>79086537
One pasta reply for another.

>>79050306
That was the Black Box group.

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>>79077904

Impactor's original design is pretty interesting. Particularly the Megatron-like face

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Impactor-367097970

>>79053882
Now I am sad that JL/Transformers crossover didn't happen, especially since that GL Optimus image looked cool.

Maybe if the Batman and TMNT crossover does good it can still happen.

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>>79088614
I don't know. Previous cape comic crossovers were pretty shitty.

>>79090009
Jazz has a very interesting crotch there.

>>79090088

>Jazz
>not Bumblebee's "enter here"

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>>79090009

>>79090247
Fuck I didn't even see what Bee had.
Lewd.

>>79090088
>>79090247
>>79090299

Interesting that they seem to fit together

>>79090276
>Liefeld
>In my transformers

Not sure if better or worse than superstar funana

>>79056636
>>79056717

I'm wondering if Roberts would have approved of Guzzle drinking all that Energon and getting all hulked out?

>>79056816
>>79057181
>>79058826

The Autobots will never be respected on Earth.

feels bad man.

>>79064162

That actually might make some sense. Though how would it explain the Costa run?

>>79070882

the arms all over the place is distracting.

>>79077904

that is perfectly disturbing.