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You fuckers ready to get depressed?
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I don't know why 71 uploaded sideways. It's fine on my computer.
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So, since this is over, some of this confused me. Like, what happened to Charli, the person Jordan cheated on his Christian wife with. She suddenly vanished and that younger girl just shows up. Who are the shadow people at the very end? Are those the renters? Because he mentions the renters creeping around. A lot of it is confusing since it jumps around so much.
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>>78972214
>27th of June

Christ, he has the same birthday as me.
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>>78971833
Oh god, oh no. Not this one. I'm not ready.
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>>78972260
Ware, do you want to confess us something?
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>>78972775
There he is. /co/'s shadow self.
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>>78971833
So he was gay all along right?
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>>78974739
Welp no I meant the post beneath

>>78974769
I think he just fooled around a bit with his friend and had always self-doubts about that. Wanted to prove to himself something that he felt insecure about.
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>>78974472
What do you mean? That he jerked off to girls?
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>>78974888
No, I meant the part where he jerked off into a drawer. That's the kind of specific stuff that you only write if you did it yourself or know somebody who did it.
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>>78973245
Yoou fucked up again, Jason.
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>>78973643
I think it simply didn't work out with her. She was just a fling because he didn't like his marriage.
Then she got replaced by a "younger model", I think she was a co-worker or something.
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>>78973404
>old Google logo in 2019
Well that didn't stay relevant for long.
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>>78972857
I don't get this part. What did the boy say?

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Yeah, near the end, it got kinda confusing, keeping track of the characters, but I think I got it.

As far as I understand, the shadow people at the end just represented him dying. That, or they are workers at a seniors home that don't treat him well.

One thing that seemed odd is that Jordon seemed to become a good guy after his first marriage, and it was only after his father said that thing about Zach that he regressed. I can't imagine one little comment fucking up one's life like that. But then at the end, they reveal he had been abusing Gabe (and since he lost contact with him pretty soon after the aforementioned episode, it seems likely that he was abusing him even before he started cheating), so it seems weird there would be no indication of anything being amiss during that time period. I dunno.
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>>78975343
Either some kind of swear word that he picked up from the movie or he expressed something that his mother disliked. In any case she blames the movie on it and by proxy on his father.

I think the abuse he dashed out wasn't shown so that it would be more of a revelation to the reader. We are after all only shown very short scenes from each part in his life, so it would be easy to miss. At least it is kind of implied already by the fact that she doesn't want to see him anymore and is ready to call the police, so we know that what he did was worse than just an affaire. It seems to me as if he was barely clinging to the life he had eked out for himself and with that comment kind of spiraled back into his old behaviour.
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>>78975343
The thing above Zach. Do you mean when he say "and all the 'friends' you made there"? On this page, >>78972811
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Who is Gabriel Lint? Is it his son Gabe?

Also his friend died in the car crash yeah? But did Alice die too?
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>>78975911
Yes. Gabriel Lint is his son. His friend died in the crash, but Alice did not die as evident in the last page of Rusty Brown volume 2 where we see here alive in the year 2005
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>>78975944
Oh yes good point I forgot about that part in the story yesterday.

It's sad that Jason actually got to see Rusty Brown as well and he attempted to make amends. Although it's weird that as the bully, he only thought they 'kinda teased' him but they literally tortured him.
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>>78975997
Bullies never think about how much damage they are actually doing and especially years later tend to remember it more toned down.
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>>78976021
That is true.

I hope the author eventually finish Rusty and Chalky's stories. Although Rusty Brown's tale is kind of already told in that famous strip with Chalk eventually leaving him and Rusty sitting alone in his mom's basement. I'd still like to see what happens in between though.
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So this is just the chronicles of a shitty white kid turning into a shitty old adult? There's no excuse because he fucked up even after redemption and tried to reason himself out of it. He was doing illegal shit with his company, raped a chick, and technically killed Hornslach. I mean I got some feels from a human perspective but he honestly deserved much worse.
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>>78975997

It is sad but I think that's why the author keeps Rusty's face turned away in every panel. Even a "retarded guy" found him disgusting.
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>>78975343
The movie was violent and his younger, more sensitive son told his mom that he was upset by it. Jordan insists that he loved it, then struggles to find words to say to him to reassure him.

The shadow people are mostly medics.

>>78976651
That's sort of the point. Throughout the story, even during the embezzlement settlement, he basically blames his father for all his misdeeds. His father was a cold man, apparently abused his real mother, but also pulled his ass out of the fire more times than not and gave him the job he had to support his family. His shitty decisions are his own.
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>>78976651
Stories about genuine pieces of shit can still be good. Like, Bukowski's Factotum or something. It's more the quality of how the character is developed and how interesting it's done than how ethically good the character itself is.
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>>78977724
>apparently abused his real mother
I hate how we don't find out how his real mom died. It clearly fucked him up later in life.
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>>78976651
It's the story of one of the characters in Chris Ware's little world.
He makes mistakes (so many mistakes) and he tries to make up for them.
But ultimately I don't think there is much of a point or message behind them.
It's the story of a life time, nothing more nothing less.
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>>78983270
I feel there is some message behind it, but I don't quite know what.
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one more bump. Did people lose interest? The Rusty Brown thread got more attention/
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>>78976104
I wonder how many chapters are left and when the next one is out.
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>with Chalk eventually leaving him and Rusty sitting alone in his mom's basement.
I assumed since we see Rusty in 2007 when Chalky leaves in 2001, he died sitting alone in his basement, since we see a bunch of trash in the basement, he was living alone, like his mom died or something.
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Well we know that he's bald in the 00's. His mom was still around in 2001.
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And this comic would probably take place around 2002 or 2003 because they're talking about the 25th anniversary of Battlestar Galactica. There's a comic after that showed Chalky's daughter was still a baby at the time and that Rusty's house was a dump (though not yet to the extent of the December 2007 scene) so his mom probably died somewhere between May 2001 and 2003.
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>>78987508
I just want the shit collected because I already have Jimmy Corrigan and Building stories and if I buy the Acme issues with Rusty Brown, I will have to re-buy some Building Stories stuff.

I don't care if it isn't finished, I'd gladly buy a book that collected what currently exists of Rusty Brown.
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>>78972789
This page seems like it takes place between late 1990 and early 1991 since it mentions Operation Desert Storm.
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>>78988550
IIRC I think there's maybe like an 8-page overlap between Building Stories and the Rusty Brown issues of ANL. Nothing substantial.
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>>78971954
A masterpiece.
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>>78988471
>Destroys the figure Chalky wants
You'd think with how nice Chalky's been to him, he would have let Chalky have it. I get his upbringing was fucked, but why does he have to treat Chalky like that?
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>>78971833
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>>78988794
It's a combination of having such a shit upbringing and never having the drive to better himself. Sure, you can be nerdy and have your dumb interests like Chalky and obviously it doesn't help if you've been bullied or belittled for the majority of your childhood, but Rusty never grew as a person and never saw people as nothing more than extensions of his fantasies; thus leading to the asshole he grew up into.

basically it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. don't catch yourself undermining the importance of other people and all of that. Same goes for Lint but in his case instead of dorky shit, he had social norms dictate his life.
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>>78989764
That makes sense. Now, why did he destroy the figure? That still is kind of lost on me? Because of something the girl said?
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>>78990055
He wanted the girl. But she has a boyfriend.

So if he can't have the girl, Chalky doesn't get his figure.
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>>78990055
like >>78990117 says, it's an extension of him being frustrated over the girl having a boyfriend. so if he can't have his trophy, Chalky can't have his (the figure)
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>>78988471
Also anyone think this takes place after the December 2007 panel seen in >>78988288
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>>78989617
But you can't put forward slashes in file names, anon

>>78988739
Thanks for the info. I'll probably buy the Acme books after all.
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>>78976651
So he just dies without any real consequence? I guess it's realistic.
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>>78990589
Probably not, in my opinion. In the last panel where he moves, it sounds very final. Like he's moving to a different state. So, this might be before? It makes more sense.
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So how did his real mom die? Cancer? Suicide?
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>>78995355
It would appear to be some kind of disease.
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>>78975997
Lint was always a self absorbed bully, he never blames himself for his actions, he always shifts it to someone else. He knows he was a dick to Rusty but he rationalizes that it was just teasing as opposed to the traumatizing shit he put Rusty through.
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>>78992941
He dies alone, his second wife having abandoned him and taken his youngest son away from him. The son he sues over the memoir obviously won't have shit to do with him and we don't know what happens to his oldest son, but he isn't around either. He had no friends at the end either and on is deathbed it's dawning on him that his first wife was great and truly loved him, but he did her wrong.
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>>78999338
>and on is deathbed it's dawning on him that his first wife was great and truly loved him, but he did her wrong.
I didn't even notice that when I first read it. Wow. That's heavy.
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>>78990589
>those last 3 panels
>/rust9k/
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bumping. I want more people to post. These are good conversations.
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>>78976104
We do find out that Chalky's daughter grows up to be a lesbian in one of Ware's comics.
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>>79003019
Which comic is that? I've never heard of that one.
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>>79003178
It's from the "The Acme Novelty Library Final Report to Shareholders and Rainy Day Saturday Afternoon Fun Book" from back in 2005. Collected a bunch of comics he did elsewhere.
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bumps for days
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>>78984224
>>78977724

Is this the guy involved with that "Some People" comic? I didn't know he had a whole world set up first time reading his work. I do agree certain moments are very genuine, and some of the buzzing flashback panels or random string of potential futures in chanels from cheating or whatever are a shamed and neglected part of being a person that we don't really talk about with others. I mean you can love someone with all your heart but it's just part of living to always ask "what if," and after a bunch of shit be like "how'd it come to this?" But I found it hard to be sympathetic for this guy except for when he goes Christian, maybe more like pity that his mother's death would trigger him becoming such a sad dick his whole life.
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>>78979829

Very true. The author at least was very good at producing this guy who peaks and glides through life by kinda fucking himself and others over. His drive for sex despite its damage and kind of permanent frat boy mentality makes you think of how he never really matured after all.
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>>78976651
>>78992941

Technically, the story is written from his point of view. It's why you didn't see him treating his son badly as said in the memoir.

And there was actually more reprecussions than you'd think. Aside from the ones brought up by >>78999338
There's also him remembering that he got a blowjob from his friend who died back in high school, which might've been what caused the car accident that killed him in the first place.
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>>79005656

I thought what the panels were implying that the girl with the bow bra was unconscious which meant his first sexual experience was taking advantage of her and Hornslach's dead body giving him a blowjob was like a hell vision before himself dying. However your interpretation does make sense with his son being dead and him projecting that kind of guilty hatred on him. Very interesting.
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>>79005803
The girl in the bow bra is Alice White. Chalky White's sister. It's shown at the end of volume 2 to Rusty Brown that her and Jordan make out, so I don't think he was taking advantage of her.
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Friendly bump.
Ware's stuff can be hard to chew, but he's got a great sense of portraying thought, albeit a little convoluted.
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>>79005823

I see, I'll have to check out his other works.
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>>79005803
Remember earlier about how when he remembered that it was his first mom whom he shared the memory of the ant and the flowers with? It turned out that it was his step mom and that he misremembered it.
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>>79005848
Yeah the more abstract stuff doesn't always work, but it's always interesting to see.
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>>79006170
It works in that it conveys someone else's mind, but completely following it as a reader can be a little off-putting.

I also appreciate the skewed perspective we get seeing it from the point of view of the specific character. How untrustworthy our guide is in their own little story.
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>>79005942
Aw fuck.I just got that. Holy shit. How did I not notice that the first time? I feel fucking stupid. So the only real memory of his mom is when she got hit by his dad.
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>>79005942

Oh I remember reading that and being confused but didn't realize it was because he had an inaccurate memory. Kind of adds depth to his character in a passive way.
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>>79003019
i>>79003019
t's also implied that it's just a phase she's going through, she's hanging out with shitheads and I seem to recall there's even a denouement where she goes to a private school, kind of cleans up her act, then sees her old "girlfriend" out in public, she looks like shit and calls Chalky's daughter a cunt and asks why she's talking with a fake English accent.

So Chalky's daughter is still kind of figuring herself out.
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>>78987508
>>78988550

I just read an excerpt from the next chapter. It will be focusing on the black female teacher. It was feautered in the D&Q: 25 years book that came out 2015. No clue when the chapter will be released though or how long he is planning to make the entire Rusty Brown saga.
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>>79005942
Geez, that panel confused me. I thought that the exact same episode just happened again with the stepmom or something.
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>>79008538
I like how he's developing side character's in one story into main characters in another. I once had an idea (that I've never gotten around to) for a series called "Six Degrees," one-issue stories about some character. The next issue would be about a side character in the previous issue.

I was thinking about starting it with small kitchen sink stories, but every once in a while doing a genre fiction story, so that it's kind of like "the world is big and the same world where are these small things matter can also be a world with fantasy or sci-fi shit going on over here."
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This is part of the Acme Novelty Library, yes?
I have it downloaded and plan to read it once I get my life back on track.
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>>79014274
It is part of the Acme Novelty Library.
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>>79000079
it seemed to me that she was sort of a surrogate mother to him.
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>>79016586
I don't think so. Nothing implies that. Unless maybe I'm not noticing something.
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>>79016586
She does seem to give him the stability that he lost together with his mother, but I don't think she is a real surrogate.
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>>79005942
Thank you. I wasn't sure how that was supposed to be taken but it makes sense if he misremembers.
I guess it's just to show that he tries to remember more about her than he actually can.
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>>79018639
I think it's more that this was the woman that he really loved, and that love he only ever felt with his mom.
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>>79006359
Do you think some of the things we see in Rusty Brown are untrustworthy due to the characters telling the story?
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>>79020202
Probably. I mean remember that we see Lint about to go into his youngest son's room before the incident that son mentions in his memoir happened, then it cuts to Lint and his family being in church years later. And remember that the bone-breaking incident is in the son's point of view as well.

I guess we'll have to wait till all the chapters are out and then cross check them to see what likely happened.
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>>79020317
>go into his youngest son's room before the incident that son mentions in his memoir happened,
I don't think so. The reason that incident happened was because of something about seeing his brother in the bathroom. The memori shows Jordan yelling at Gabriel because of that. Not because of something he said.
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>>78973083
So, is he sad about his step mom passing away at all?
>>78973538
Because here, he's at his real mom's grave, but we never see him say anything about his stepmom.
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Thanks OP.
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