>A mysterious new Marvel character comes to the attention

Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/marvel-kill-character-civil-war-ii-article-1.2491020

>>78868971
>Iron Man adopting the position that the punishment cannot come before the crime.
But in CW he--
>Bendis
Ah, forget it.

>>78868971
>Why the fuck would Spider-Man, of all characters, be in favor of this?

Because movie tie-in

>>78869018
Wait if it's Rhodey as people believe, does that mean he'll die in the film too?

>>78869076
"Muh Uncle Ben" would be my guess.

>>78869031
>implying Tony isn't always based

Looks like he's going to be in the right and in-character for two Civil Wars.

>>78869856
Tony never was based, anon.

>Marvel still trying to make Captain Marvel relevant

At least they're sticking to her old, dickish persona this time.

>>78868971
>with a high degree of accuracy

So it's not 100%?

I thought Marvel was rather upfront about this being just an excuse for crossovers and tie-ins?

>>78868971
Is the Civil War going to be movie characters vs Spider-Man and his love interests?

I can kinda understand why Spider-Man would consider this. I mean, he's always taken loss extremely badly, so the possibility of preventing future losses might be really appealing to him.

On the other hand, it really feels like he should be way more conflicted about this.

>>78868971
>>78868971
>>A mysterious new Marvel character comes to the attention of the world, one who has the power to calculate the outcome of future events with a high degree of accuracy.

Didn't Reed do this in Civil War with a formula? And who the fuck believes future events anymore? Only like two of them ever came true, just ask the fucking X-Men.


And remember when Remender did an arc about preventing future crimes in Uncanny X-Force?

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>>78868971
Two dudes face off

Is there really no one else in the MCU who can predict the future?

>>78869031
The stupid thing is you just know that 'what if Iron Man was on the opposite side this time' is all the thought that was put into this.

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>>78869856

>Tony
>based

>>78869967
Considering how influential Civil War is you'd think everyone would have learned their lesson

>>78869912
Maybe them making Carol actually act like Carol and be a giant bitch will be enough to anger the Carol Corps people and make them go away, I am all for that.

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>>78870013
Ah been to da future, mon; it's bad mojo.

>>78870023
and its going to be hilarious when he's "wrong" this time too.

So what side is Steve going to be in or is he going to stay out of it since he's too old for this shit.

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>>78868971

You think Spider-man is only on her side because she promise him sex after this?

Also irony that spider-man is always against captain america.

>>78870013
Time travellers... other super smarts. Layla Miller... Theres like 100. This plot has been done before several times.
x-force on killing kid doomsday even.
Kang as a kid, in that one book..

>>78868971
didn't we already have a movie about this

with the three psychic kids in a pool or whatever

>>78870164
Minority Report

>>78870110
There's no way he can be wrong. If he's wrong, then a system that can predict the future would have to stay in place, and that would be terrible for a superhero comic. How would Spider-Man foil robberies if they're stopped ahead of time?

The system would have to be portrayed as wrong, and the superheroes would eventually have to destroy it or whatever.

>>78869099
I think he's injured in the movie, taking a hit intended for Tony, I think Wanda does it after her emotions become amped to fuck by newly unlocked powers. Thematically that makes the most sense; "it felt like that". A wake up call to Tony and Wanda about how dangerous their non-functional relationship is.

As for the CW2 comic, fuck knows. Maybe it's Vision given Agatha saw him doing bad shit.
Vision or his family does shit that leads to Premonition Person becoming super important.

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>>78870013
Nope, not a one.

http://comicbook.com/2016/01/10/major-marvel-character-to-be-killed-off-in-civil-war-ii/

Reposting from here, basically Bendis didn't even have a whole story but he pitched an event, in which he decided to kill somebody, anybody, he just didn't know who yet

>To the surprise of basically no one, Marvel Comics plans to kill off what's described as a "major" Marvel superhero in the forthcoming event miniseries Civil War II, The Daily News reports.

>The comic, which pits Iron Man against Captain Marvel with a team of Avengers flanking each, sees a mysterious new Marvel character comes to the attention of the world, one who has the power to calculate the outcome of future events with a high degree of accuracy. This predictive power divides the Marvel heroes on how best to capitalize on this aggregated information, with Captain Marvel leading the charge to profile future crimes and attacks before they occur, and Iron Man adopting the position that the punishment cannot come before the crime.

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>Captain Marvel is, of course, being propped up for her 2019 movie, so making her a lead character in a comic designed to cash in on an existing movie (Civil War II starts a month after Civil War hits theaters) makes sense.

>“People’s personal accountability is the theme of this one,” series writer Brian Michael Bendis is quoted as saying. “From the way cops are acting on camera, to the way people talk to each other online.”

>The incident that galvanizes the superheroes into battle against one another involves this new seer predicting a catastrophe that will be brought on by a superhero in three days. This far out from publication, though, Bendis hasn't quite figured out what the catastrophe is. At the point when he was pitching the story, he hadn't even yet decided on a culprit. The article describes Bendis using Spider-Man Peter Parker as a kind of "placeholder" so they could have conversations about the story, but The Amazing Spider-Man writer Dan Slott said he knew all along that Peter wouldn't be the guy they used -- and ultimately he wasn't.

>“The death is the marketing hook,” explained publisher David Buckley. “The thing that’s really compelling is whether or not there’s a story afterwards that’s going to connect with readers and sustain it.”

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>>78870266
That's hardly surprising, it happens more than most people think.

Hickman basically came out and said that the reason for all the Secret Wars delays was that he painted himself into a corner and didn't know how to end the story.

>>78870303
This picture is incredibly arrogant what the fuck? Who does this pissant think he is?

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>>78868971
Will we get a full bingo?

>>78870266
>>To the surprise of basically no one,

It's funny cause that's true

>>78870338
>white straight male is bad. Minority is good.

But Falcon is on Iron Man's side and Captain Marvel is the one leading the other side.

>>78870338
>event pushes a new relaunch
Pls no, we've already had two relaunches in three years

>“The death is the marketing hook,” explained publisher David Buckley. “The thing that’s really compelling is whether or not there’s a story afterwards that’s going to connect with readers and sustain it.”

This is so stupid it beggars belief. It's Full Retard storytelling.

>>78870185
yeah

this is literally just minority report with superheroes

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>>78869996
Reed didn't even invent it, he perfected something the Mad Thinker had come out with years ago.
But yeah, pretty weird how they're suddenly acting like this is a big deal when they've had access to TIME TRAVEL without anyone trying to go all Minority Report

>>78868971
Might be a'ight.

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>>78870334
>Who does this pissant think he is?

Brian Michael Bendis, future owner of Marvel and DC

>>78870303
English is not my first language. What does "dropping the mike" mean?

>>78868971
Why would She-Hulk be on Carol's side? She's a fucking lawyer and going after someone for something they haven't done would be against what she believes in.

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>>78870372
>But Falcon is on Iron Man's side

Not for long. It's only a matter of time before Sam realizes Tony needs to check his privileges, and jumps ship.

>>78870012
...And then they kiss.

>>78870338
>Beast blames Cyclops
>X-Men are absent
Who made this? Those 2 things clearly contradict each other, making it impossible to have both, which is counter-productive for bingo

What is your most hated bendis moment /co/?

>>78870387
From almost five years ago:

http://www.newsarama.com/7056-hey-that-s-my-cape-marvel-killing-characters-for-money.html

David Gabriel, Senior Vice President of Sales at Marvel said, “As a result of the Fantastic Four sales and media coverage, Marvel is going to kill a main character every quarter.” He then made sure to say, “This is not a joke.”

>>78870118
>I dunno, guys, that seems kinda wrong to me...
>If you go with us we'll let She-Hulk fuck you.
>Well...

>>78870411
In rap culture, when you drop the microphone during a rap battle (in which two people compete to see who can improvise a rap that better insults the other person), it indicates that they have said all that needed to be said, and do not need to say anything more. In the context of a rap battle, this is incredibly cocky and presumptuous, as it implies that nothing the other person will say will be good enough for you to respond to compared to what you said about them. This implication carries over to other contexts, to which a metaphorical mic-drop applies.

>>78868971
Hey, Carol is actually in character for once.
Stopped clocks, I guess.

>>78870435
So Falcon is playing Spider-Man in this?

>>78870505
Pretty sure Spidey is going to jump ship to Tony's side.

>>78870164
>>78870185
>>78870390
>>78870400
Oh, good, I'm not the only one to immediately realize this is just "Disney's Marvel Comics Presents Marvel's Minority Report, Starring Robert Downey, Jr. as Iron Man and Sev'ral Minorities as Captain Marvalmerica."

>>78870496
Interesting. Thanks. I wonder if this appeared in Hip Hop Family Tree?

>>78870338
>Sally might come back

I-I just can't bear to imagine the horrors of Sally written by Bendis, dear Lord...

>>78870505
I think Kamala will be the Spider-Man this time

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>Bendis creating a new character

>plot device character
>'shocking death' to kick off event
>heroes fighting each other

its like they picked 3 of shittiest storyline aspects

>>78870505
I bet that's it exactly. They're not going to fully mirror Civil War 1, but different characters will go through the same arcs.

>>78870536
Another note:
>After hours of occasionally heated debate, Bendis and Alonso reveal they had a eureka moment during a 10-minute break and came up with the perfect superhero to sacrifice and an even better candidate to murder him. The answer actually gets a loud ovation from the crowd.

This just screams of desperate marketing on the scale of "The Death of Superman". And DC openly admitted that Superman died to sell comics.

>>78870475
Eh. Marvel's oversaturated with characters anyway. Killing off a few on a regular basis is probably a good thing.

>>78870455
I don't hate Bendis, he's a good, fun popcorn writer, like Marvel's Geoff Johns.

>>78870562
>Tony is Kamala's Avengers mentor
>Carol is Kamala's personal hero

Fuck you for being so right.

>>78868971
Because he never got over fucking up and getting his Uncle killed? Stopping murders before they happen would be right up his alley.

War machine dies to kickstart the event just like he's gonna die in the movie to make tony go all hard-ass mode to bring bucky in

>>78870610
>the DC BENIS guy
I knew you were around.

>>78870610
Watch your mouth

>>78870626
Black man will die twice while his white friends WHITESPLAIN it away

smdh famb

Inb4 it's post-Secret Wars Franklin Richards.

>>78868971
Kamala's going to end up hating Carol faster than I thought.

>>78870626
This. Ever since quicksilver's death no character has plot armor anymore in MCU

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>>78870612
We all know who Kamala would side with first

>>78870455
When Hawkeye killed himself because his quiver was aflame.

>>78870640
>>78870652
Sorry for having a separate opinion, guys...

>>78870679
Even 616 Peter?

>>78870440
Ah but neither Beast or cyclops are currently x-men.

>>78870012
Looks like they traced an old Steve/Tony Civil War picture.

>>78870478
"Let"? What, like they've been holding Jennifer back this whole time?

>>78870455
killing echo

>>78870338
>continuity is ignored and/or altered
What exactly?

>>78870713
Are you kidding? Execs must be just ITCHING to find a way to axe Peter Parker and replace him with Miles in the movies in a way that won't alienate nerds.

>>78870713
How else do you think we're getting miles, pham?

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>>78870455
He makes Bucky look an ignorant rookie, makes Kang look like a crazy loser and "Like an Egyptian Pharaoh?" is one of the dumbest things I ever read. Fuck that arc

>>78870435
Why would Falcon want to punish people before the crime? He won't jump ship. If anyone, Spiderman will be the one jumping ship again.

>>78870754
Probably: there's been many precognitives before this, including Carol herself.

>>78870754
>ZOMG! THIS GUY CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE WITH MATH! THIS A NEW DEVELOPMENT! >>78870400

>>78870435
They didn't know what the story was when they sent that out. They literally didn't know who they were going to kill until halfway through this retreat.

It's just Cap vs. Tony because that's what the old one was.

This looks fucking stupid

>>78870780
it should not be marked before time. neither should the characters acting out of carácter because technically they haven't done anything yet.

Odinson is never going to get the hammer back is he?

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>>78870455
Everything he did to Wanda, and everything he made characters say about Wanda

>>78870735
That is the only reason for the lack of her fucking everyone on-panel.

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>>78870811
Fine, feel free to put your own marks in

>>78870338
Does Kamala appearing count as "Inhumans appear"? Because you know they're going to drag her into this.

>>78870811
It's Bendis. He ignores canon and is incapable of writing characters that act as they should instead of all being snarky clones of each other.

>>78870777
Why would any of these people want to do that? You can't count on characterization here on Bendistan, if they wanted Sam on Team Minority Report, they'd either turn Tony into a monster like in the original Civil War or some "Oh, your parents would still be around if the hoods that killed them had been arrested beforehand"

>>78870075
Well, Marvel has found pissing off fanbases equals sales. Maybe its time for them to apply it to "Carol Corps"

>>78870836
Peter can you at least pretend to understand the gravity of the situation just once?

>What are you even doing here?

Holy shit based falcon.

>>78870794
Well Reed is dead and wasn't going to cooperate with them for this anyways. I fail to see how they are ignoring continuity. Like if they could have done this it would have gone like:

>Carol: Reed I need you to start predicting how and when people are going to commit crimes so we can aprehend them right now.
>Reed: No.

And that's it.

>>78870874
Only if the fact that she is an Inhuman is actually relevant

>>78870440
Beast is with the Inhumans.

>>78870831
He'll be back by the end of the year.

>>78868971
>Captain America wants to arrest people before committing crime

That's the least Captain America sounding thing I've ever heard

>>78870901
The worse the situation gets, the more he jokes. It's how he copes with stress.

>>78870958
Hence why he is siding with Iron-Man according to the OP posted picture.

>>78870968
Ah true I guess you're right

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>>78870856
There. Is still a lot for an event that hasn't even started yet.

>>78870958
Dude, when Trump becomes president Cap will have to adapt or die.

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>>78870906
That's not the only method of telling the future there is. In the MU they have actual working time machines, as well as people from the future living in the present whom they could just ask things.
For instance, Baron Strucker founded Hydra after following Doom through a time machine and finding out the Reich would fall

>>78870958
That's not Captain America.

>>78870958
Falcon is with Iron Man who is the good guy now.

>>78870993
Oh god I read it as Captain America and not Marvel. Also wtf? Why would Marvel do that

>>78870400
>The Illuminati tie-in to Civil War II is about the Mad Thinker being butthurt that new character stole his schtick and everyone listens to him, while nobody ever cared about the Thinker

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>>78870455
Pic related should be an automatic answer. Out of everything Benis has done, this is the one that can never be undone.

>>78870338
>>78870856
That empty area at the bottom needs more stuff. maybe smug Bendis face from >>78870303

>>78871005
I think they are trying to prohibit those time travels in Ultimates. And all the people from the future living here are from alternate realities, not the real future.

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>Iron Man will die in your lifetime

>>78871076
What was he thinking? The fucking audacity of this man.

>>78870338
>>78871000
I think the comically good and comically bad square should be marked already. I mean, siding with Carol is like trying to say Robert Redford was right in the Winter Soldier.

>>78868971
>Why the fuck would Spider-Man, of all characters, be in favor of this?

Carol promised him sex if he sponsors her. Weren't they about to date years ago and then it was totally forgotten?

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>>78871131
>comically good and comically bad
>in a comic book

>>78870958
This makes me wonder about Steve's role in this, he and Falcon had a big fight, didn't they? Marvel wouldn't put Steve Rogers in the wrong team just so they can re-do Civil War with Iron Man winning... Would they?

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>>78871157
The Spidey/Carol non-relationship has been getting brought up a lot in the last few days. Did a bunch of shippers suddenly come out of the woodwork or what?

>>78871131
Pierce was going to murder anybody who would oppose Hydra, Carol wants to detain people who are (probably) going to cause mass deaths

Not really the same thing

>>78871196
/co/ has always shipped them and brings it up whenever there is reason to. Also someone storytimed Reed Ms. Marvel recently.

>>78870836
> Wasp shits on Wanda
> Wanda goes baby crazy out of nowhere and kills Viz, Scott, and Clint
> Spidey shits on Wanda
> Strange, who's supposed to be one of her best friends, shits on her
> Then "No More Mutants" and the X-Men shits on her collectively continuously forever
> Then put on a bus
> Then rapey thing with Clint

>>78871196
There's been a lot of Carol storytimes.

>>78871000
I dunno why I find this Bingo so annoying. It's the Bendis hating.

>>78868971
>Why the fuck would Spider-Man, of all characters, be in favor of this?

>Spider-Man, your uncle was shot by a criminal you didn't stop when you had the chance, right?
>Yeah, I regret it every day of my life
>Tell me, if you had known at the time thathe was going to kill your uncle, you would have stopped him, right?
>Yeah....
>That's what we're gonna do, we're going to stop criminals from ever shooting people's uncles!
>Can't argue with that logic

>>78871208
Yeah, that's why the movie ends with Steve going, "Pierce was a nazi, but this project oversight was a good idea. Let's continue using it to detect future criminals."

The point was that only Hydra would support something like that.

>>78869018
It's War Machine or Quicksilver (or Gambit)

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>>78871208
Fucking Pierce. You think this is why Abed was a SHIELD agent?

Oh, I know what's going to happen.
The new Minority Report guy shows up and starts laying on the predictions left and right. The cast takes their predictions with a grain of salt until Dead Man kicks the bucket. After that, Carol takes it personally and starts using Minority Report to track down criminals before they happen, while Tony gets jealous that he is being emasculated by a woman and tries to put her back in the kitchen. Fights and drama ensues, Bendis dialogue happens, and I'm sure there will be a few Deadpool and/or Gwenpool variant covers.

So if we want to spoil who ends up dying, we need to think about who Carol has been involved with.

>>78871277
Three spaces to whine about muh SJW invasion is a little much.

>>78868971
Peter's just butthurt that Tony NTR'd Mary Jane away, so he's joined the team that wants to take him down

>>78871035
Carol has always been a little fascist. She honestly would have made a great Nazi.

>>78871076
Man, this page never even annoyed me that much. I dunno why, maybe it's because I totally wanna fuck Iceman.

>>78871300
>James Rhodes death flag intensifies

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>>78871236
When is Carol going to accept her destiny and become Karla's pet?

>>78871230
>/co/ has always shipped them and brings it up whenever there is reason to.

It's just a lot more prevalent lately. Along with a storytime of Brian Reed's Ms Marvel run.

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>a major character will be killed by Bendis

anal RAGE is guaranteed

I can't wait to see the fallout

>>78871280
>Only their uncles though, everyone is fucked
>...It's what Uncle Ben would have wanted.

So the good guys are going to be Captain Marvel and her prevent rape squad, right?

To add to the body count, the event is started when the Avengers Academy kids are caught up in the first major tragedy.

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>marvel admitting they are manchildren
>they're proud of this

>>78871312
That and the MCU references part with multiple exclamation marks is a bit much.

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>>78871277
>>78871312
>>78871432
Feel free to make your own

>>78871420
>It's in the All-New X-Men tie-in
That'd be great.

Let's see

SHIELD will side with Carol since they already use precog agents

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>>78868971

>Charging people for crimes based on feelings

CW2: Iron Man vs SJW-Brigade

>>78868971
Marvel claims it's going to try and present both sides as having valid viewpoints, and isn't going to have one side be portrayed as "bad".
Will they pull it off? They said the same thing about Civil War 1

>>78870610

Geoff Johns is awesome. Don't you ever compare him to Bendis

>>78871535
Conservatives are the ones who want to arrest people based on feelings and fears of what they might do
>Muslims ar scary terrorists, we mustn't let any in
>We must spy on everyone just in case terrorists

>>78871533
Plus Maria Hill really hates Sam Wilson and isn't particularly fond of Tony Stark

>>78871581
Absolutely not.

oh my god , they're gonna kill off the Xmen and Fantastic four

>>78871620
lol nope, and your examples are bullshit too.

I would post a detailed takedown, but THIS IS A COMIC THREAD, POST ABOUT COMICS YOU FUCKING ARSEWIPE

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>>78870455

>Killing Hawkeye for no reason
>Trying to retcon Chaos Magic
>Age of Ultron
>"Just MCU up my Guardians"
>Ruining 616 Kitty Pryde

I don't even know if I blame him for Age of Ultron because his editors should have stopped him halfway through and told him to stop being a fucking idiot.

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>>78871693
>ARSE

>Punish good guys for being heroes
>Don't punish bad guys for being evil
Good Job, Stark.

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>>78871620

Go back to your hole Sanders-voter. This is a thread about freedom

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>>78871581
All they have to do is not have the Carol Corps recruit super-villains and shove heroes into space Guantanamo.
They just have to be portrayed as believing they're doing the right thing and not doing anything morally questionable beyond "stop people before they do anything"

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>>78871769

>Punishing people for crimes they haven't even committed

>>78871844
Just like the real world, dude. Please buy our books!

>>78870713
according to the source, they literally went in with the assumption that Hitler character kicking this off and then being murdered would be Peter Parker (cuz Bendis wants the Spider-Man HE created to be top spider) , and Slott Machine was fighting them tooth and nail (because having to write something other than ASM would break his 'longest consecutive ASM writer ever high score') until someone else tossed out a better idea that was 'epic, simply epic'

>>78871581
>Bendis
What do you think anon?

>>78871875
>according to the source, they literally went in with the assumption that Hitler character kicking this off and then being murdered would be Peter Parker (cuz Bendis wants the Spider-Man HE created to be top spider) , and Slott Machine was fighting them tooth and nail (because having to write something other than ASM would break his 'longest consecutive ASM writer ever high score')

Bendis vs Slott when

I actually have some optimism about this.

Bendis......well, yeah, he's got his problems, but he has improved a lot in the last few years.

Carol......several people, including me, have been griping about wanting her to be the take-no-prisoners hardass she started out as......looks like we may be getting our wish. I kinda hope they ditch the whole "Rhodey" thing, there is zero chemistry there. Unlike with Carol and Jess, but I'll push my ship later.

Civil War......it's not a sequel to the first one, it's a whole new one, with different issues. And yeah, it's minority report.......and it may shock you to know that minority report stole the idea from older sci-fi, which in turn stole it from other works, and you can make an argument that even the bible mentions this sort of thing. (if humans are all sinners, why does god allow us to sin? why does god tempt us when he knows if we will fall or not?) stories borrowing from other stories goes back to before written human history began. It's normal. deal with it.

someone dies! .....and? so what? we always say "we want real change! we want people to stay dead!" isn't this what we want?

bottom line: this board is overwhelmed with hate and bullshit. get over yourselves, stop acting out, and open your minds.

>>78871844
They don't necessarily have to punish them, just stop them from doing it. If you know you won't get away with a crime, odds are you'll back off

>>78871909
For free or for a fee, anon?

>>78871739
It's fucking funny because current Guardains doesn't have anything from that (really outdated) picture anymore. You people are kicking air.

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Of course, That sound right, I mean We don't have to jail him.

We just need to put them away from the people that is in danger. Like in the black-hole...

>>78868971
Will Iron Man pull out a Marvelbuster armor?

>>78871799
Literally the thing that starts the event is the precog accusing a hero of doing something awful, and then another hero murders them. And Carol is still on team precog after this.

>>78871300
what if minority report guy is just Gwenpool, and it turns out Comics in her world were further ahead than the point in 616 she got dumped into by like a year

>>78871909
>someone dies! .....and? so what? we always say "we want real change! we want people to stay dead!" isn't this what we want?

I admire your naivety thinking that this person will stay dead.

>>78871941
>For free or for a fee, anon?

if I was shilling, would I call you a dickless cunt with unresolved mommy issues who survives by eating his own snot?

no, I would not.

>>78871658
What the fuck? Why does Hill hate Sam?

>>78872082
That's what a shill would say to pretend he wasn't a shill.

>>78872066
>I admire your naivety thinking that this person will stay dead.

ok, you got me there.

to be fair, some characters have stayed dead. mainly the less popular ones. Other than Uncle Ben, I mean.....

>>78871909
>he has improved a lot in the last few years
he's gotten worse the more he's made to write genres he has no clue about

>>78872102
>That's what a shill would say to pretend he wasn't a shill.

your logic is flawless. I am helpless in the grip of your planet-sized intellect. enlighten me, O wise one!

>>78871875
Reminder that the announcement of the killer and victim caused James Robinson (Starman, Cry for Justice) to proclaim, "That's like an epic."

>>78871312
>>78871432
It's not just Bendis hating, it's to show how predictable Marvel is.

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>>78872159
>epic


Epic, Bendis. Simply epic.

>>78871609
Sorry, man.

>>78872101
Read the Captain America: Sam Wilson book, Sam did many things that pissed off SHIELD

>>78870266
Tony will be killed off and replaced by a strong woman that needs no man in true marvel fashion...

screencap this, you know it's happening

>>78871909
Stop liking things, Anon! You've gotta hate everythinf Bendis and/or Marvel does!

>>78872156
For free or for a fee, anon?

>>78872101
He publicly criticizes SHIELD, helped a whistleblower get away and basically doesn't respect her

>>78870425
Bendis is writing, of course characters will be out of character for the sake of his hack writing

>>78869076
>Because movie tie-in
But in the movie he's on Tony's side.

>>78872159
>Starman, Cry for Justice

It still boggles my mind that the same guy wrote both of these. The disparity in quality is what's epic.

>Iron Man supported registration in the first Civil War

>Now he's against it

Brilliant 10/10 writing

>"High profile hero" death for the sake of shock value confirmed

-Not going to be anyone from the MCU.
-Spider-Man & Human Torch are safe
-Reed, Sue, & Bruce Banner are in limbo right now
-Unlikely to be a character with their own book right now

She-Hulk? The Thing? Idk.

>>78872373
YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO! YOU'RE NOT MY DAD!

to be fair, Bendis annoys me too, I just don't have this unreasoning hatred of him everyone else seems to. The guy's capable of quality work, he just.......he's on SO MANY BOOKS. too many. IMHO the last year really showed what a bad idea that was, because look at his Guardians run: a bunch of random shit happened, and then it sorta fizzled out. Look at his Uncanny X-Men. It started out strong, but then fizzled out........almost as if he started his run with some good ideas and then ran out, and was too swamped to come up with any more.

and holy shit the Bendis-speak is annoying.

>Carol being a mayor player
>That stupid argument for a civil war

ppppffffffftt HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>78869076
a reveal would be that some hero on ironman's side knew about uncle ben dying or it could have been prevented.
also spiderman unending quest about saving/no one dies, just so he can sleep better at night.

>>78872626
Human Torch is safe? Why?

>>78872584
This isn't registration, they're fighting over something else this time

>>78872631
>unreasoning hatred
Not when he has been sucking for so long.

>>78872626
War Machine

>>78872658

Bendis confirmed him safe for whatever reason.

>>78872631
IIRC he was also working on getting his phd last year, too.

>>78872631
>he's capable of doing good
>so we should forgive him when he fails to do anything good

>>78872722
>being sent to limbo because MUH MOVIE RIGHTS
>being raped by Bendis
I don't know what's worse protip: the second option

>>78872651
>spiderman unending quest about saving/no one dies
that ended. at the start of his new ongoing he admitted he was being unreasonably obsessed with that

>>78869875
Superior Iron Man was, in fact, based.

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>>78872850
>Tom Taylor

>>78868971
Fuuuuuuuuck I hate Captain Marvel

>>78872050
Bendis is nowhere near that clever.

>>78872320
>>78872437

Goddamn. I gotta catch up with Falcon Cap.

>>78870734
Even her tits look more like a big ole pair of pecs

>>78872631
I was joking mon. I actually like Bendis, usually.

>>78870303
>Captain Marvel is, of course, being propped up for her 2019 movie, so making her a lead character in a comic

The bitch is in every fucking book. Fuck I hate this boring ass cunt.

>>78868971
What is with this recent Captain Marvel push? Is there really no other female character they could push for increased relevance?

>>78872734
>IIRC he was also working on getting his phd last year, too.
really? christ. when does he sleep?

>>78872736
>so we should forgive him when he fails to do anything good
that's not what I said. hold a grudge if you want, but you should at least try to judge a work on its own merits.
if author X, who has been a laughingstock for years, somehow gets his shit together and makes something great.....and you refuse to even consider it, because he's author X, who everyone knows is a loser......in that case, the only one missing out is you.

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>>78868971
>She-Hulk is all for the "pre-arrest" side
>puts herself on the breadline
lol

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>>78872713

War Machine
Beast (Because Bendis)
Quicksilver (dead in the MCU so they don't care)
Kid Nova (On main Avengers roster)
Rage (D-List black character dying just liked CW1)
Power Man (not Luke Cage)
Doctor VooDoo (because Bendis apparently hates him)
Marvel Boy

Its going to be someone who is hard to adapt to the MCU or someone they don't have the rights to

God Lord, the only way this can get worse is if that cunt of America Chavez gets a main rol and a solo book.

This is shaping out to be worse than fucking age of ultron, and that was shit splattered on paper for 8 issues straight.

>>78872793
Good. That was always stupid. Spidey doesn't kill himself, but he's had plenty of team-ups with Frank or other heroes that kill where he recognized that sometimes their method can be necessary.

>>78872992
recent? they've been pushing her for years.

> no other female character they could push for increased relevance?
actually, they have been. Black Widow got a small push for a while, and now she's suddenly vanished. Gamora has the mythical solo title that will never actually exist. Spider-woman's getting a lot of attention and sperm. Silk......A-force.....Spider-Gwen......Angela.

I just realized Black Widow has literally vanished. Is she in any books at all? WTF?

When will Marvel get the hint noone likes Carol as Captain Marvel?

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>>78872411

>>78873152
Her solo was canceled recently.

>>78873152
She went on a training break in the Siberian winter to lift weights and run so she can become a steel-bodied widow again.

>>78872159
> “What if the pressure causes (the hero) to commit suicide,” suggests James Robinson, another Marvel writer, adding that it could be a good way to draw attention to the scourge of cyber-bullying.


i know everyone is (fairly) shitting on Bendis, but let's not gloss over the other retarded ideas.
Someone should really stop James Robinson from writing comics anymore.

>>78868971

> Captain Marvel leading the charge to profile future crimes and attacks before they occur

Why does everyone fuck this up? How about you stakeout the people and places and then wait until the event is about to happen?

It's like a sting without having to setup anything.

>>78873152
Black Widow's book is starting in March by Waid and Samnee

>>78873154
Not with the movie still in the works and the news media complaining that there's no female-led Marvel films.

>>78873154
Never.
She has been getting a lot of gender neutral fans because of the fanfic tier stories. I can't stand her. She was a more engaging character before the redesign.
Fuck this gay earth.

Guys, it just clicked with me
>>Carol Danvers is the morally grey one for this event.
>>Kelly Sue's last Carol book was during Secret Wars
>>Kelly Sue probably left Marvel because they aren't gonna make Carol the perfect flower like she built her up to be.

>>78868971
Star Lord? What the fuck is Star Lord doing there? Why does he care?

>>78873364
>>Kelly Sue probably left Marvel

Wait when did she leave Marvel? Was it the same time as Fraction and when they announced they were making Hollywood deals?

>>78873403
He's in it for his Jewess.

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>>78873312
This

>>78873247
>March by Waid and Samnee
aha, thank you.

>>78873232
as long as she's drawn by Cho when she gets back, I'm all for it

>>78873237
good point, but you could get even lazier.
1. procogs let you know dude A is going to pull shit in a week in chicago.
2. grab dude A. give him and his family (if he has one) an all-expenses paid trip to a resort of their choice on the other side of the planet. a dozen agents will accompany them.
3. check for other people in the incident (like an arch-nemesis or something). give them the same offer, only to a different set of resorts. (if the incident was set for chicago, send dude A to Australia, and send the other person(s) to europe).
4. everyone can come back the day after the scheduled shit. which, hopefully, did not happen.

>>78873235
>Beast sucks lmao. he should kill himself.

>>78873491
It was more gradual than a flounce. Captain Marvel was the only thing she was doing, and Marvel wasn't willing to give her a third shot at making it work.

>>78873364
it's possible. I think it's more likely that Marvel said "ok, KSD, you've had THREE runs on the character, time to let someone else have a turn." we'll never know unless she writes a tell-all blog post someday.

>>78873491
Kelly's last book was the Captain Marvel and the Carol Corps book during Secret Wars.

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>>78868971
>minority report: the comic

Great, I can't wait to see what they're going to rip off next.

>>78870435
The way Spencer is taking Sam in his Cap book, it doesn't seem like he'd support Carol's side.

>>78873657
It's gonna be Avengers vs. Star Wars.

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>>78873515

>>78868971
>Iron Man adopting the position that the punishment cannot come before the crime

But this is verbatim a line from MCU Capt-

Oh right, Marvel doesn't give a fuck, why should we?

>>78873705
>It's over Hawkeye, I have the high ground!

>>78873515
<stands and claps
<tears swell

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Only one issue

What happens if the final battle is Iron Man and Captain Marvel flying and punching each other.... and they land and have their final fight in a winery or a brewery or some place with thousands of alcoholic beverages around?

>>78873403
>>78873502
>mfw people actually thought the GotG weren't gonna pop up during the first thread.

>>78873657
They're probably going to rip off Avengers v X Men at some point with the Inhumans replacing one of those teams.

>>78873869
Luna gets promoted from wallpaper to plot device after fun with time-travel?

Wait, she can be damaged this much by a plane crash? Doesn't she fly into things and punch them at high speeds without recoil?

>>78873726
Cap and Tony are on the same side this time. I mean, Cap is Sam, but Steve is probably with him.

>>78873957
This is a flashback, she retired from the USAF before she got her powers.

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I duuno you guys but Carol takin on the authoritarian side would be the most in character thing she would have been in a while.

I know we like making fun of the House of Ideas being out of ideas but this is ridiculous.

>>78873909
>wallpaper
>implying she exist in the background
She either is in the plot or not in the comic there is no middle ground.

>>78868971
uncle ben is the mysterious dude
the mysterious dude is also gwen too?

>>78873869
You're thinking too small, this is how it's going to be:

>X-Men vs Inhumans
>Avengers vs Inhumans
>X-Men vs Avengers vs Inhumans
>X-Men & Avengers vs Inhumans

So Black Panther's probably gonna get promoted in this, right?

>>78874064
Probably

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The end

>>78871300
They will kill Spider-Woman baby

>Carol goes turbocunt because her buck got killed

>>78870505
Falcon has always hated spidey

>>78874159
>>78874193
I wouldn't mind seeing Carol go apeshit after someone gets killed.....but that aon't gonna happen, she's got a movie coming out.

>>78874146
thanks, anon.

>>78873007
>that's not what I said. hold a grudge if you want, but you should at least try to judge a work on its own merits.
>if author X, who has been a laughingstock for years, somehow gets his shit together and makes something great.....and you refuse to even consider it, because he's author X, who everyone knows is a loser......in that case, the only one missing out is you.
There's a ton of people here on /co/ who have this view of Mark Millar.

>>78874405
You welcome anon.

>>78874089
This is such a bullshit scene.
No matter how much of a hard as you are, if anyone sledgehammers your arm broken you would be too fucked up with pain to do anything.
This book actually makes me think way less of Carol than I did before.
GTFOOH Marvel with this BS.

>>78873739
I wish someone would start calling her Cheeseburger again, it would be the most amusing thing about her character.

>>78874653
She isn't a cheeseburger anymore, she is a whole cow.

>Actually Spider-Man and an actual lawyer who passed the bar and has her own firm and everything siding with the punishment-before-the-crime team

God damn it.

>>78874772
You have a shitty event book to write, Bendis.

>>78868971
>and Iron Man adopting the position that the punishment cannot come before the crime.
They're trying to undo Iron Man's fascist streak.

>>78874800
Captain Marvel is holding people they hold dear hostage.

>>78874772
Only if she wears her old tit-cow uniform.
Hnng!

>>78870338
MCU references needs to be checked in, since Star-Lord is in his MCU attire, still.

>>78870478
>I know what I'm doing is wrong but Jen's head game is phenomenal

>>78872683

Its basically should we register people who will possibly commit crimes in the future?

>>78870326
Do these fucks not plan anything ahead of time? They just make things up as they go, Calvinball style?

it has to be War machine that dies.

>"""""important character"""""
>no really, hes a big deal, movies and everything
>really
>big personal connection to Tony
>best bro sorta
>gets own set of armor
>big personal connection to Carrol
>fucking/its complicated
>this mentioned for the first time in a year only last week in ultimates

and its Tony vs Carrol about preventing crime/death. This is how each of them copes and if they are willing to
>never again
over it.

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>>78870478
>Let She-Hulk fuck you
>let
"Fucking let me at him!"
"Not yet Jen, he hasn't said yes yet"
"By the time I'm done with you Parker, you're not gonna be able to use your jaw for a week!"

>>78868971
I hate this, I hate modern Marvel, I hate Bendis, I hate Iron Man and I hate the fact it's going to succeed.

>>78873502
Why would the Jew care? The X-Men are not involved.

>>78876283
Maybe Minority Report figures out that Kitty is the leading cause of horrible shit happening to the X-Men, or that Jean's gonna brainwash someone into being gay and they're gonna snap and kill people or something.

>>78876141
I don't know, I think is the start of Marvel's downfall. It seems that a lot of people aren't looking forward to this.

>>78876355
Are we talking just here? Because we're always like this, but it doesn't matter because we're not buying comics anyways.

>>78875699
yup.

I dunno if it's the writers biting off more than they can chew at once, or editorial telling them to work on multiple books all the time, but Marvel is really bad at not giving the old guard some breathing room and delegating some of the load to the new blood. If you just gave each writer one book each then they'd have more time to plan, and they'd have no excuse when they fail to plan

>>78873235
It's going to be Cyclops killing Beast

>>78876408
>we're not buying comics anyways
Speak for yourself. I'm sure someone around here buys comics.

>>78876439
I actually do buy comics.
Just not Marvel events.
Eventually there will be a breaking point for Marvel though, because the constant cycle of events really only works to draw in new readers, eventually these new readers will become old and bitter like us.
Well, maybe not like us, but they'll get tired of it.

>>78872934
he's just been saving a bunch of ilegal mexicans... nothing of worth really

>>78876644
He also Got turned into a Wolf

>>78874977
That's pushing it. It has to be a reference originated in the actual event

>>78871233

>Rapey thing with Clint

It's cool. Clint fucked a Doombot.

>>78876353
>Kitty is the leading cause of horrible shit happening to the X-Men
Nah that's Cyclops.

>>78876439
1 every 10. Still very few to count.

so basically they are making him further the >immigrants welcome meme
and ripping off old as fuck captain stories?

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>>78871909
>bendis
>improving
>in the last few years

His Guardians and X-men run are blatant contradictions to your post, anon.

>>78872373
Also quit fucking samefagging.

>>78876355
Kek, are you serious right now? Retailers are THE Marvel cuckolds. They will continue to buy events and issue #1s to keep them running for a very long time.

>>78869031
I don't see the connection, Civil War didn't have any punishment before crime stuff

>>78873726
Anything people like that some other character does/says, IronMan must do/say it as well

>>78877121
Civil War had unregistered heroes locked up in the negative zone without trial, even ones without powers

>>78873010
Why the fuck is she always on the wrong side when it comes to conflicts like this?

>>78877370
because writers thinking of the fight match-ups first, the reasoning second. She-Hulk is on the wrong side because someone has a favorite hero they want to fight and win against a hulk.

>>78870536
& Knuckles

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>>78870536
>Captain Marvalmerica
No, her name is America Chavez. Get it right.

>>78872793
Haha, but with Bendis you never know!

>>78877785
I mean, during AoU Spidey was technically Doc Ock but Bendis ignored that too.

>>78877362
The were locked up for a super powered insurgency. That's not punishment before the crime.

>>78877931
even the retired ones got hunted down, the ones who had no intention of putting on a suit again before heavily armed fascists invaded their homes and threatened them and their loved ones

>>78870455
He had an 8 issue arc called the Will and Testament of Charles Xavier, that he hyped up as a BIG GAME CHANGER, and instead it's all undone with time travel and the revelation is not even a revelation. Not only that, but Eva undoes a guy's birth, and the guy wasn't even an asshole! Everyone attacked him and he defends himself. He's now gone from existence, and people treat this as a girl power moment! No seriously, people thought that was a moment to cheer for!

>>78878044
Hell, they camped out in front of Luke Cage's house and tried to jump him one minute after the law went into effect.

>>78877370
>>78877429
because she's a lawyer and is comfortable with idea idea of rules and regulations since a large part of her life revolves around that?

>>78878139
She'll probably write the rules for this stuff.

>>78875830
makes a lot of sense.

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>>78878097
How can you hate Storms best moment?

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>>78878139
But if that were true, shouldn't she see the rules that are blatantly unjust and contradictory to other rules and work to fix those instead of blindly following them? I mean fuck, when you're going against the living embodiment of all America stands for several times at this point, that should be enough for some serious reevaluation of your choices.

>>78877652
>America Chavez
No, anon was making a joke that went over your head. Get it right